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    okay the people who told me my sunbae cfd off wes/lissa/adrian/apoc wagons was bad are both town that lookback wasn't helpful

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    Live on Tape Day 3 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    4 Titus wiggles1993 (90), HumanLegion (105), dyachei (203), Apoc (389)
    4 Sunbae Mantichora (97), Michael22Omega (161), Cron (222), Limestone (160)
    3 Duk3star Titus (137), Empoof (86), Duk3star (29)
    2 HumanLegion t om (170), Sunbae (97)
    1 Limestone Mexal (115)
    1 Not voting Lissa (153)


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    Day 3 ends at 8:00 PM EST on Saturday, November 11th, 2017. There are 1510448460000 remaining.

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    Maybe w/w wagons right now

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    I have a kind of silly reason why I don't think titus/sunbae are w/w

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#10154)
    I have a kind of silly reason why I don't think titus/sunbae are w/w
    Lol

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    Duke should bus partner right now

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    They are both wolfy and there is possibility of w/w. Which is why we are killing them both.

    That x post btw.

    Lime and Cron not w/w

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#10150)
    16 hours

    4 hours left in day


    lissa thinks sunbae is a villager


    really.gif
    idk i think i think a fair bit differently about activity than ... most people under the rough umbrella of POGger, i guess, at this point

    but i would think it was dumb as hell and be pretty pissed if i got a wolfread made on me for something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan (#4897)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4326)
    Woke up randomly. This is fine. Back to sleep . Jpeg
    5 townpoints because I don't think scum seeing v/v wagon makes that post.
    Just not self concious enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#4387)
    Okay I guess Jan

    So I have an omgusy read on Jan where it feels like his read on me feel mostly like side comment pointing out random things and calling it wolfy without too much thought into my alignment. Felt his treatment of me has left me feeling empty like he didn't fully think my alignment on me through.

    He commented on me mentioning Wiggles's postcount in response to Dya saying Wiggles was getting easy townreads but when I responded that I wasn't reading Wiggles based on that he didn't really follow up and went off and later came back to say I was wolfy but felt bad.

    Selfish read.


    I also went backwards a little bit through his iso to see his posts today and kind of like the well drawn out wes read with no conclusion. The analysis on Wes's evolution as a wolf player and Wes saying things he would expect wolf!wes to say seemed decently thought out.



    This is a thought dump not a read


    2 part thing. This and his sunbae read afterwards (not quoted is part 1).
    (The omgus will come back to haunt me 5 minutes after I post this)

    I think Limestone not caring about the main wagons at the time and just talking about reads about random other people in the game is more likely a wolf that doesn't want to commit too much, but wants to look busy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#4402)
    ##Vote Lissa
    Caveat to the first part.

    Limestone is town if Lissa is a wolf.
    He is the fourth or fifth vote on a lissa wagon, which brought her close to the wes wagon for a short time.
    I think in a w/w world he does not risk voting a partner there.
    (This does not apply as much to the earlier votes, because the chances was not as high for it to become a competing wagon.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4437)
    oh do i possibly have to do something actually decisive
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4481)
    man i don't want to actually make a decision i spent a chunk of time not thinking i would actually have to so i didn't push myself to being in a place to and now uh
    Reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#4486)
    Live on Tape Day 1 Votecount

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    7 Wesmaster160 dyachei (249), HumanLegion (150), Mantichora (268), Mexal (51), Adrian (230), Aquilla (276), Limestone (221)
    4 Lissa wiggles1993 (260), Michael22Omega (287), Cron (331), Wesmaster160 (166)
    4 Adrian Sunbae (184), Apoc (293), Panther (173), Empoof (481)
    1 Mantichora Jan (129)
    1 Michael22Omega Champ (114)
    1 Apoc MarkoRaj (212)
    3 Not voting Lissa (108), Montecore (0), Duk3star (140)


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    Wesmaster160 was lynched. They were: Vanilla Town.

    Day 1 has ended.

    Day 1 ended at 10:00 PM EST on Tuesday, November 7th, 2017.
    Some parts about this votal depends on Lissas alignment.

    If she is town, then the wolves are likely spread all over the place and off the main wagons.

    That means there is a higher wolf density between Champ, Monte & Duke (feel free to add myself to that group.)
    I expect 1-2 wolves in there if Lissa is town.
    The other wolves are likely somewhat spread over the wagons.
    0-1 wolves on each wagon with 0-2 on the main wagon.

    This is not exact sience, but if the wolves have nothing to push then they like to hide between villas and in places where they don't look bad until later in the game (when the wagons are resolved).


    If Lissa is a wolf then there are more wolves on the main wagon (2-3 would be my guess) and the offwagon people look a bit better (most likely 0-1 wolf between them).

    So yeah .. if Lissa is/flips town blast offwagon and if she is/flips wolf blast the mainwagon.
    That would be my take away so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#5457)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jan (#4897)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#4326)
    Woke up randomly. This is fine. Back to sleep . Jpeg
    5 townpoints because I don't think scum seeing v/v wagon makes that post.
    Just not self concious enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#4387)
    Okay I guess Jan

    So I have an omgusy read on Jan where it feels like his read on me feel mostly like side comment pointing out random things and calling it wolfy without too much thought into my alignment. Felt his treatment of me has left me feeling empty like he didn't fully think my alignment on me through.

    He commented on me mentioning Wiggles's postcount in response to Dya saying Wiggles was getting easy townreads but when I responded that I wasn't reading Wiggles based on that he didn't really follow up and went off and later came back to say I was wolfy but felt bad.

    Selfish read.


    I also went backwards a little bit through his iso to see his posts today and kind of like the well drawn out wes read with no conclusion. The analysis on Wes's evolution as a wolf player and Wes saying things he would expect wolf!wes to say seemed decently thought out.



    This is a thought dump not a read
    2 part thing. This and his sunbae read afterwards (not quoted is part 1).
    (The omgus will come back to haunt me 5 minutes after I post this)

    I think Limestone not caring about the main wagons at the time and just talking about reads about random other people in the game is more likely a wolf that doesn't want to commit too much, but wants to look busy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#4402)
    ##Vote Lissa
    Caveat to the first part.

    Limestone is town if Lissa is a wolf.
    He is the fourth or fifth vote on a lissa wagon, which brought her close to the wes wagon for a short time.
    I think in a w/w world he does not risk voting a partner there.
    (This does not apply as much to the earlier votes, because the chances was not as high for it to become a competing wagon.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4437)
    oh do i possibly have to do something actually decisive
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4481)
    man i don't want to actually make a decision i spent a chunk of time not thinking i would actually have to so i didn't push myself to being in a place to and now uh
    Reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#4486)
    Live on Tape Day 1 Votecount

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    7 Wesmaster160 dyachei (249), HumanLegion (150), Mantichora (268), Mexal (51), Adrian (230), Aquilla (276), Limestone (221)
    4 Lissa wiggles1993 (260), Michael22Omega (287), Cron (331), Wesmaster160 (166)
    4 Adrian Sunbae (184), Apoc (293), Panther (173), Empoof (481)
    1 Mantichora Jan (129)
    1 Michael22Omega Champ (114)
    1 Apoc MarkoRaj (212)
    3 Not voting Lissa (108), Montecore (0), Duk3star (140)


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    Wesmaster160 was lynched. They were: Vanilla Town.

    Day 1 has ended.

    Day 1 ended at 10:00 PM EST on Tuesday, November 7th, 2017.
    Some parts about this votal depends on Lissas alignment.

    If she is town, then the wolves are likely spread all over the place and off the main wagons.

    That means there is a higher wolf density between Champ, Monte & Duke (feel free to add myself to that group.)
    I expect 1-2 wolves in there if Lissa is town.
    The other wolves are likely somewhat spread over the wagons.
    0-1 wolves on each wagon with 0-2 on the main wagon.

    This is not exact sience, but if the wolves have nothing to push then they like to hide between villas and in places where they don't look bad until later in the game (when the wagons are resolved).


    If Lissa is a wolf then there are more wolves on the main wagon (2-3 would be my guess) and the offwagon people look a bit better (most likely 0-1 wolf between them).

    So yeah .. if Lissa is/flips town blast offwagon and if she is/flips wolf blast the mainwagon.
    That would be my take away so far.



    @Jan

    I like your post, thanks for doing it for me. The focusing on things like how wolves would be reacting running down the clock in the thread with lime, how you think his vote specifically is a good indication of not w/w with lissa due to timing, and your thinking about how the breakdown of wagons make it more likely for wolves to be in certain spots are all things that I think are more nuanced observations that wolves have a harder time thinking about when asked to look at a section of the game and report back. I'm struggling to understand why the wolves are more likely to be off wagon instead of spread on the 4 main wagons though if lissa is a villager? Can you kind of walk me through that in more detail, as if I'm 5 please?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#5458)
    ##Vote Limestone
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#5478)
    lime,

    I think your eod was bad after having it isolated for me. I think you didn't care about what was going on and were in your own little world running out the clock while there was a v wagon runaway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10157)
    They are both wolfy and there is possibility of w/w. Which is why we are killing them both.

    That x post btw.

    Lime and Cron not w/w
    10/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#10158)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#10150)
    16 hours

    4 hours left in day


    lissa thinks sunbae is a villager


    really.gif
    idk i think i think a fair bit differently about activity than ... most people under the rough umbrella of POGger, i guess, at this point

    but i would think it was dumb as hell and be pretty pissed if i got a wolfread made on me for something like that
    K then vote Titus

    Tom gonna vote Titus

    Mexal gonna vote Titus

    Sunbae gonna vote Titus

    :thinking:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#10151)
    okay the people who told me my sunbae cfd off wes/lissa/adrian/apoc wagons was bad are both town that lookback wasn't helpful
    objectively bad

    never lynch sunbae D1

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    So yeah it feels like sunbae bandwagoned off of Jan's read on me and made it his own read. Feels like a wolf would be more likely to sheep a villagers read than a wolfs? Maybe just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#10162)
    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#10151)
    okay the people who told me my sunbae cfd off wes/lissa/adrian/apoc wagons was bad are both town that lookback wasn't helpful
    objectively bad

    never lynch sunbae D1
    I lynch whoever I want if I think they're a wolf XD

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    how many hours required before lissa assumes anti-spew?


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    Ugh I had an uncomfortable dream

    I'm super tired too

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    Actually wait mexal said he reads Titus town.

    So in one corner we got

    Lissa
    Sunbae
    Tom
    Wiggles
    Legion

    Other corner

    Limestone
    Mexal
    Cron
    Michael
    Titus


    Hmmmmmmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10166)
    Ugh I had an uncomfortable dream

    I'm super tired too
    rip

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    It's prolly w/v

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10169)
    It's prolly w/v
    maybe

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    Well maybe w/w. I don't think so though.

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    I still wanna lynch duke but I understand that might not be the correct decision

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    Soooo what do we think of doc claiming?

    @Apoc
    @dyachei

    No one else answer

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    One mason on each wagon

    Hm

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    I feel like we're a confirmed town away from winning tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10173)
    Soooo what do we think of doc claiming?

    @Apoc
    @dyachei

    No one else answer
    I wanna answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10175)
    I feel like we're a confirmed town away from winning tbh
    !!!

    that is if town doesn't self destruct or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10175)
    I feel like we're a confirmed town away from winning tbh
    This is why I wanna just lynch duke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10178)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10175)
    I feel like we're a confirmed town away from winning tbh
    This is why I wanna just lynch duke
    Lynching outside Duke actually gives you better odds if we don't hit. It's good for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10178)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10175)
    I feel like we're a confirmed town away from winning tbh
    This is why I wanna just lynch duke
    probably should have done this yesterday tbh

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    4 Titus wiggles1993 (90), HumanLegion (106), dyachei (203), Apoc (391)
    4 Sunbae Mantichora (97), Michael22Omega (161), Cron (232), Limestone (170)
    3 Duk3star Titus (137), Empoof (90), Duk3star (29)
    2 HumanLegion t om (170), Sunbae (97)
    1 Limestone Mexal (115)
    1 Not voting Lissa (154)


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    I just don't get how I see the game so opposite of lissa and sunbae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10182)
    I just don't get how I see the game so opposite of lissa and sunbae.
    I think I probably see how lol

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    I kinda think legion town.

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    I have so many opinions that I'm squelching right now

    Fml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#10184)
    I kinda think legion town.
    Yes.

    I hard claim VT if it matters.

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    Fun fact

    I have a commitment issue of not being able to say I Love You very easily when in a relationship stemming from some stuff around my childhood and high school

    Part of my dream decided I needed to feel really bad about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10137)
    Quote Originally Posted by t om (#10134)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10130)
    Hello?

    Why both Tom and Lissa stopped responding all of a sudden?
    well were both talking to apoc and also your emotions make us both uncomfortable
    I'm calmer right now, so might as well.
    sorry had to walk away for a few whats up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10187)
    Fun fact

    I have a commitment issue of not being able to say I Love You very easily when in a relationship stemming from some stuff around my childhood and high school

    Part of my dream decided I needed to feel really bad about that
    I kinda had a similar problem. But then I learned another language and saying I love in that language didn't seem problematic at all. After saying it in the new language for a while, it became normal in my native language as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t om (#10188)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10137)
    Quote Originally Posted by t om (#10134)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10130)
    Hello?

    Why both Tom and Lissa stopped responding all of a sudden?
    well were both talking to apoc and also your emotions make us both uncomfortable
    I'm calmer right now, so might as well.
    sorry had to walk away for a few whats up?
    I was saying I didn't interact with champ. We barely talked. Anyone else who I have talked with a lot has ended up not w/w with me, including you. That's because I think I haven't shown any prejudice when questioning people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limestone (#10144)
    Also looked over Tom to see why he was saying he should be super townread cause I found that weird just because it came from him. His general policys that no matter how he's playing he's always in his wolfrange and you shouldn't try to read him for spew.

    He had like one interaction with duk3star and a post early on which didn't scream not w/w to me at all. i can grab them.

    He did call Legion/Champ/Duk3star w/w/w wagons when he joined legion counter wagon so that seems like it should be a good look and stuff.
    its absolutely not about my posts towards duke. its his posts towards me.

    iirc i just said he was wolfy but would be easy to solve with flips which is totally something i would say about a buddy.
    i did call out his mikey/lissa read which i still think is a wolf talking about two villagers but i would probably do that to a buddy too maybe?
    especially if im with lissa which is IMO my only viable teammate if youre really solving for me rn. maybe mexal i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10189)
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10187)
    Fun fact

    I have a commitment issue of not being able to say I Love You very easily when in a relationship stemming from some stuff around my childhood and high school

    Part of my dream decided I needed to feel really bad about that
    I kinda had a similar problem. But then I learned another language and saying I love in that language didn't seem problematic at all. After saying it in the new language for a while, it became normal in my native language as well.
    Whoa that's really interesting. My roommate is determined to teach me a language while I'm here so I could try this

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10190)
    Quote Originally Posted by t om (#10188)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10137)
    Quote Originally Posted by t om (#10134)
    well were both talking to apoc and also your emotions make us both uncomfortable
    I'm calmer right now, so might as well.
    sorry had to walk away for a few whats up?
    I was saying I didn't interact with champ. We barely talked. Anyone else who I have talked with a lot has ended up not w/w with me, including you. That's because I think I haven't shown any prejudice when questioning people.
    ok sure
    mostly just townreading each other for reachy reasons and softing masons or whatever

    doesnt really change the fact that all of your "not w/w" interactions are with people i think are town

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    I think I'm not w/w with 4 people atm (from the PoE). Well based on what people think, is not even my own idea. But they are true since I'm town. I think other are at most not w/w with 2 people (inside the PoE).

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    anyway
    im leaving in, like, <1 hour and missing eod
    final performance of the burlesque show so @wolves im in full force tomorrow come at me

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    If I'm dead tomorrow and there's two vig claims let them shoot each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10194)
    I think I'm not w/w with 4 people atm (from the PoE). Well based on what people think, is not even my own idea. But they are true since I'm town. I think other are at most not w/w with 2 people (inside the PoE).
    lissa/me and who else?

    and am i even in the poe im not in most peoples' townclears but i think titus is literally the only person that suspects me and she pretty obviously has read, like, 5 of my posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10196)
    If I'm dead tomorrow and there's two vig claims let them shoot each other
    duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by t om (#10197)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10194)
    I think I'm not w/w with 4 people atm (from the PoE). Well based on what people think, is not even my own idea. But they are true since I'm town. I think other are at most not w/w with 2 people (inside the PoE).
    lissa/me and who else?

    and am i even in the poe im not in most peoples' townclears but i think titus is literally the only person that suspects me and she pretty obviously has read, like, 5 of my posts
    Lime and Mexal along with you and Lissa.

    You are in some people's PoE. Point is, its not blatant town people aka Dya, Manti, Apoc, Cron or Empoof. Anyone else is technically PoE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10192)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanLegion (#10189)
    Quote Originally Posted by Empoof (#10187)
    Fun fact

    I have a commitment issue of not being able to say I Love You very easily when in a relationship stemming from some stuff around my childhood and high school

    Part of my dream decided I needed to feel really bad about that
    I kinda had a similar problem. But then I learned another language and saying I love in that language didn't seem problematic at all. After saying it in the new language for a while, it became normal in my native language as well.
    Whoa that's really interesting. My roommate is determined to teach me a language while I'm here so I could try this
    It could work for you as well. I am with someone who speaks that language, so I have to tell him I love in the said language and not my own. After a while I noticed I don't have a problem anymore.

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