Type: Posts; User: Chelsea
If anyone should be Apologizing it should be me for not looking harder at other people (even if I did read Makaze/PB iso about 3 times) I can't tell if I had bias when reading their isos but I was just pretty fooled by Makaze. It seems we each had 1 wolf but couldn't find the other. Ah well!
At least I got one ;-;
hops in the loser bin.
gg
##Vote Psycho666Soldier
Your entire play has felt like a wolf who's had the game wrapped up and is just trying to not ruin the towncred your wolf slot got before you at this point and you're going for the game winning ML
No, I'm not going into detail on it but it shouldn't be hard to put together if you spend 10 seconds looking at PB's iso.
I told you guys to deal with this yesterday and you didn't listen
I've asked people to vote Ria slot and they don't listen.
Honestly I'm pretty done with people choosing not to listen so if we lose on my execute than I know who to blame.
Unless Psycho isn't a wolf and the other 2 are just extremely god tier than I will join the bin of losers.
@Makaze If I was voting purely based on the 5 players here I'd say Psycho/Logic 8/10 times here but that would mean PB did certain things as a wolf that I just can't respect and I hold PB to a higher standard than that so it's hard.
I plan to vote Psycho in the next hour
Since other people have talked about it I don't see how anyone here could be my partner.
You have sully/jump who I 100% would've bussed to get away from and not have to deal with it.
You have Ria/Psycho slot and that would mean from the start of the game the mafia was double bussing and just wanting 2 slots to make end game and hope town played badly enough to not sheep or follow it? (Lol)
You have PB/Logic who had interactions with me and things said that I outright would not approve/by okay with them doing as my partner and I wouldn't be here.
You have Makaze who I think I've voted almost no times and called him town most of the game where if I was his partner I would obviously be distancing from that slot and giving good interactions.
So um, yeah not seeing it
Go everytime Logic posts I think he's scum but if PB played like this as scum I won't think I can ever respect that.
See but none of that is important I have looked and it's hard. But me not being able to find your partner/saying who I think your partner is isn't a scum trait or at least, it's NAI. Because obviously it can be faked
See Ive tried to expand and ask myself if I'm tunneling but then I look at posts from Makaze/Jump and just nod my head. There's not much to really case.
Of course, I could try and case you yourself instead of Ria points but at the moment I feel like I can better show I'm town than you're scum
I just want you to vote Psycho today for the most part and I can focus on that part tomorrow because I'm having trouble myself finding the 'correct' answer.
My scumrange is massive that it's very hard for anything to be 100% reason why you should townread me this is true. I'm trying to make the statement that if I was a wolf that the things I've done have put me in an awful spot that I openly threw myself into that I never had to do in the first place.The simple answer is: Yes, it is AI, because scum!you only needs one ML to win the game, and the only way to know if your claim is serious is if after you've voted.
The thing is that if you are aware of what you would and wouldn't do as mafia then you are able to do those things as mafia to deliberately point to them later, so it's NAI or scummy to point to those arguments 9/10.
Another way to look at it is to find the towns until you eliminate who his partner is.
Combine that with the fact that any wolf team with me on it never lets FJP/Athena do what they did.
Let me ask, if I went int detail on how wolf me doesn't kill supa let alone hard bus ria here as a wolf would it help or would it be dismissed as wifom?
On dear... I don't like this
Makaze, I assume you like jump at the moment? If that is the case then the Poe has been wrong for a bit considering I think it goes without question we'd execute Sully 9/10 times if he was around. Given that information and you don't think me/Ria are Wolf/Wolf who were wolves setting up for end game?
I'm here, you have questions and I have answers. Work with me here it's LYLO and we need to come to a good answer within that amount of time.
Okay this game deserves a little bit of time but I want to clear a few things up first
Demotovation:
The reason I haven't been motivated for this game can really be chalked up to a few reasons:
-Thinking I was the Day 2/3 Execute and knowing I don't need to put in a ton of effort (yet somehow I keep getting out of it)
- I had things I simply cared about more and that didn't change as the game went on
- Speaking of, I was a lot busier recently when I wasn't Day 1 and onwards.
These are the main reasons what they aren't is because I gave up or anything of the sort. I would've left if that was the case.
Why my reads are the way they are:
--I've given people many chances to interact with me or engage on reads early on and that simply went out the window most of the time when I did have time and was motivated for this game. Now I'm the one who mostly avoided them because I just, wanted to be the ML so people could read my slot and take a look at things yet here I am in lylo. So now I have to keep going out of respect and now that I have time I can do that.
--Some people have problems with me not looking for the partner of the person I've SR since day 1 and to that I say: Is that a problem? Is that AI? From my point of view I'd have to spend an entire day to go through 3 isos to try and find out who that person is because at one point or another I've been hard townreading the last scum. I've had 1 (maybe 2) flips I've been incorrect on and everytime I am incorrect I spend a long time thinking over interactions that takes time, certainly not time I had before.
Things that you need to think about in a W Chelsea world:
--If I am a wolf there's a lot of things that you need to reconsider that seem odd. Really, I would've been in anti spew for days right because I'm a walking corpse. I would be trying to make my partner look amazing right now is that happening? Who is my partner am I setting them up for f3?
--Does wolf me go for the 1v1 the day before trying to save a town slot?
--Does wolf me stick to one push the whole game instead of trying to branch out and claim I have these right reads?
--We all know wolf me is good or at least that's the standard you're putting me to so why do I make so much sense and why was I caught early?
-- Why does wolf me go for the 1 person I've claimed I could read the best and tunnel them into the ground knowing they're town where it will obviously put me in an awful spot instead of pocketing them? I know the answer to these, but do you?
If I assume jump is town and I do that means 1 of the main townreads (at least for me) has been incorrect nearly all game. But do I have the want or need to iso both Makaze/PB? Not really.
I suppose in theory I could just believe my town list from the start and say Jump/Psycho but assuming I get my way here it's probably not a good idea to talk about that for now.
I'm off to bed but if anyone thinks I'm scum just give me your main points or quote them and I'll respond to them when I feel the need to do so but I promise it'll be before the 1 day timer. I don't feel like rehashing my points on why Psycho is a wolf
Don't plan on voting until 1 day is left so I can try and get some amount of energy to care.
Whoa...
I said Yolo was townWhat about yolo/bart? Did you expect the orangeandblack death?
And there's the obvious: then what's the solve and how does it line up with your worldview of the game?
I'm not going to pretend for a minute that the majority of wagons haven't been demonstrably driven by town, pushed over by town, etc. but those town have also been accurate about a lot (shoutout to Amy) so I can't accept 'town are just bad' as a solution
Bart I had as town because of his read on ria even though it was a town lean instead of 'town'
I still think Psycho is wolf and I'm not surprised.
None of these flips have shocked me
we'll see in a second!
I pray that my reads are bad
Are you staying on woopens?
I'm saying what you're doing right now is basically throwing if you're town and saying 'my flip is great'
Don't act like you'd know how scum me would play. Because I can tell you right now you wouldn't
typed outg Logic is Psycho's partner and then I remembered that was PB and slammed my head on my desk sigh
(This is correct btw but no one will believe me)
Because I had things I care about more tbh
Woopens if you're town and me and Psycho are Tvt we lose like 9/10 times here I think this 1v1 getting solved today helps more than you dying
Doyou think I shouldn't be tring pluff as hard as I am?
If Pluf is wolf with the amount of effort they've put in with this short amount of time I'm about to clap for them. There posting is really really good.
really want the execute to be in me and psycho tbh
I've never once thought my ria read was wrong. You can check my early posts for why I think they're scum and how they've acted. I think the reactive playstyle is also super daming.
etc etc
Day 1: 9
Day 2: 7
Day 3: 6
Day 4: 4
Day 5: Still a 4.
I voted you yesterday trying to get people to talk about you because my read on you has flipped the most out of everyone in the PL. The only reason I started to townread you harder were today's posts
would be more comfortable with Makaze scum if I wasn't so sure Psycho was scum because they don't seem like partners and I'm a lot more confident in a psycho flip then a maakze flip
No this isn't wrong.
If ria was a wolf and v woopens...I would probably go look at all the isos again but the answer isn't easy and I don't want to give you a fake answer atm I don't have anything confident
Yes and on his town flip who does that make look bad
vs I who said yolo is town
They trust yolo reads over ours
Ria=Psycho slot sorry
if Ria is town prob sheep Supa on his read but if you think that's a copout I'd say Woopens
If Ria is a wolf I'd check the isos again
I have reasons to townread everyone in this day phase alone besides Psycho. Well, not logic but we were never touching PB anyway
I mostly said it to see if it'd get you to hop on. If you really followed through with it I'd have been surprised.Tell me which part of this is wrong.
1. You town read me.
2. This would be throwing.
3. I could be NK'd.
At least with Shinori it wouldn't cost him the game. It's against the rules for you to follow through with this unless you're mafia.
I already said I would be okay with it but it wouldn't be because of this lmao
Makaze if it comes down to you/woopens I'm voting you so join me on psycho instead. If it's wrong you can vote me in lylo idc.
Supa you rly think woopens is wolf after that posting?
Originally Posted by Logic