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Originally Posted by Makaze 1598283050 (#1438)

I am around but am going to be fixing D6 Mafia.

I read woopons defense, waiting on Fenrir to produce content.

There's nothing technically wrong with his defense, but I'd expect to see him actually case someone instead of continue to vote jump with no real case. I don't think the evidence looks any less AI because that defense amount to WIFOM on what is essentially randomly pushing buttons. Only way I can tell what's real is by how he treated Athena.

Upon reread the first time he mentions Fenrir is Day 2, and Fenrir still hasn't mentioned woopons either. I can see one way, but I think it's weird that neither of them mentions each other at all.

TL;DR Same priority.

@primordial woopons What do you make of Fenrir's D1?
@Fenrir What do you make of woopons D1?

I'm in full "struggling to keep up" mode now and am about to go into my final class, which [starts now I just learned and] won't finish until 7:10 PM. I didn't get to do the stuff I wanted to during the night (which included reading over woopons) but I recall having the thought of not liking his dancing back and forth with the doctor claim and thinking that if anyone on Athena was bussing he'd be the most likely.

Probably will prioritize Athena's interactions if I'm able to find the time during or after class.

Urge to return to dunn rising

Skimmed Athena iso because why not, don’t get heavily moved either way on them, not invested in pushing to keep him alive but would rather go Ariadne or Dunn or some magical fjp cfd

@Paperblade I will do that in eight minutes yes

I find myself not vibing as confident on ariadne right now even, but I feel best about voting her over current other options

##Vote ariadne
Presently vibe on this. Don’t vibe on Makaze and think them v Shinori is t/t. Could be persuaded on Athena depending on the case against him, but I came away from his initial set of posts weakly liking the vibe.

This is not exonerating (goes w/o saying)

##Unvote Dunnstral

Family emergency, here to say I can’t be here. Potentially can sporadically read, but only from phone.

Originally Posted by Magnificence Incarnate 1597900228 (#721)

Is this town!fenrir? I've never seen a fenrir wallpost before

Get ready:tm:, especially if I keep playing the catch-up game (I start classes Monday).

You mentioned at some point having played with both town and scum Dunn, so I wanted to ask you also if you feel there's any dichotomy in the sense of the volume/focus of Dunn's contributions as either alignment, as I right now only have a scumgame of his to reference.

Since @Chelsea's the mutual Dunn expert I'll @ them here for this as well.

##Vote Dunnstral
My vote for the time being goes to here or FJP, now I get water.

No, I've never heard of a spoiler tag in my life. Mb. Getting water, checking p12-15, then starting in on the to-do list. Also feel there're a couple of slots I should definitely have more of an opinion on given how much they've posted (PBlade/Supa come to mind) so they're in the back of my mind as "fix that problem."

Dunn's behavior on page 2, as well as subsequent trends through the day, reminds me of his gameplay in Arctic Mafia, in which he was a wolf. The posts Makaze quoted in p#100 ping me as being quick to shut down potential townreads as opposed to advocating wariness regarding forming early reads (which in itself isn't a terrible thing either). He also seemed unconcerned with this line of thinking when Amy initially passed a townread on him, only acknowledging that opinion when asked about it directly.

He's additionally been low-content for most of the day so far [similar Arctic trend and in fact the thing that I remember as leading to his elimination in that game] despite having had a pretty consistent presence compared to players like FJP/Ariadne (more on them further down). When he finally starts having more in-depth conversations with people, it pertains to them not reading him favorably (see p#462 and subsequent posts) and he feels less interested in trying to solve people's slots and more in finding things to call out/push.

Amy's currently my strongest townread; I like the balance of her early behavior (e.g. it doesn't feel like she's trying too hard either way too appear too casual or too game-focused) and I feel she's been the primary individual pushing people to take stances and give their takes on matters.

I've got a sentence from my earlier notes saying "I want to like YOLOSWAG but need to see more", not sure on a skim of their ISO what it was I liked but I'll give it a second look following this.

I start to lean town on Makaze seeing their response to Claire's Aizen-rp in p#164, mostly b/c it resembles what I recall of my own initial reaction to said Aizen-rp in the other game Claire used it in.

P#226 makes me feel, to quote earlier me, "some kinda way on Shinori, but I can't tell what kinda way." Makaze's posts surrounding it don't do much to ping me. Re: Amy's p#275, I only have Training Mafia as a frame of reference for Makaze's gameplay but based on that game (thinking particularly of the gutreads on Fable/Evan that expanded into multi-day thunderdomes, p#387 and the surrounding interactions with Dunn reminded me of this especially) I vibe with the first part of that post. To me though the discussion/subsequent back down with Shinori felt relatively natural and (1)I don't know what the incentive would be for scum!Makaze to back down quickly if he'd already put the thought out there and (2)I'm curious on how Makaze's wolf meta is in particular [for anyone who has reference on that]: is wolf!Makaze specifically more hesitant, or does it boil down more to town!Makaze not being known for hesitating? They don't strike me as the type who'd back down as either alignment, which is why I'm not inclined to read their doing so as AI.

I don't like ariadne's p#299, as it feels like she felt the need to comment on her vote being on Makaze since others began to wagon there. Felt it was trying to parrot the sentiments of others while sounding original. On first read ariadne's later posts didn't swing me either way, so ISO work will probably be on my to-do list for however long I stay awake tonight.

I vibed on Athena's entrance posts as town on first instinct, but didn't have anything specific that made me feel confident in it.

Continually found myself holding off on reading Chelsea due to fear of misreading her due to her reputation as a strong player, forcing myself to ISO her and come to a conclusion also goes onto the to-do list.

I recall hearing at some point that town!Shinori has a tendency towards tunneling, which'd align with their current behavior towards Makaze. Also find myself liking Shinori's ability to inquire elsewhere at the same time as engaging in this tunnel as well as their persistence and pressing for answers from Makaze within the tunnel itself.

While I don't agree with the line of thought being taken in p#392 at all, the mindset/introspection required for the mental gymnastics required for this are imo >rand v. Scum, imo, stops at calling the quoted posts vague as opposed to detailing the bit about trying to get other to make the case.

I think Mackc2 is town, primarily for his attention on Chelsea, which admittedly stems in part from the fact that I don't think scum!Mack picks Chelsea to go after when there's been little attention on her prior to p#406. But I also like his follow-up questioning in his interactions with Chelsea.

I've got "Marth v" written down a few times throughout my notes, citing "mild mindmeld vibes" and I'm for the moment content to sheep past me's opinion, as they've had similar initial reactions that I did to Dunn, Mack, and Athena (though I don't think I'm as confident as they are on Athena).

Wrote down that some of what Shinori wrote in p#451 makes me want to re-evaluate Makaze, added to to-do list.

Don't like FJP's p#452 for how it delves into the Makaze v. Shinori conflict and doesn't come away with any coherent read on Makaze's alignment while also showing no drive to fix this problem despite Makaze's prominence as a conversation topic and wagon. I'm also curious what drew his attention to Athena over others itg; his read on Athena also doesn't seem concerned with looking deeper into Athena.

Since @Dunnstral claimed to be the expert on reading Claire and votes her in p#456, and as mentioned above I've so far put off reading Claire longer than I probably should've, I want to know how and if Dunn's meta on her affects his read at all (independent of the reasons cited in 456, unless you feel those reasons are tied explicitly to her meta).

Ok vibe now I'm legit back, got thoughts up to the last time I said I was back that I'm converting into paragraph form and should be here for a while (barring a decision to take another break).

Present and catching up.

@Ampharos I watched Soul Eater in high school at a friend's request/suggestion and the main thing I know about it now is that Laura Bailey voiced the main character in the English dub (which I only learned recently)

@Dunnstral I understood like 30% of those words.

Can't wait to toneread Chelsea over Aizen-dialogue again; I already feel the urge.

Vibe checks loaded. Think Amy's logic's sound enough; not personally motivated to sheep it, had mild concerns about "what if Amy's trying too hard to be that person who gives early reads but the Dunn read spawned naturally enough that it doesn't ping me.

@Ampharos I saw the first 8 episodes smh, I've seen a whole two anime shows (Soul Eater and then like half of Future Diary+the one you just mentioned)

Originally Posted by ariadne 1597713013 (#38)

##Vote Makaze

kill the mods

dunn voted me because i complained in discord someone was going to say i wasn't playing to my meta after not playing for 5 years we haven't even played before dunn. rude

Okay wait is the Discord still a thing? If so I either got kicked from it or left and don't remember doing so

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597713028 (#39)

i don't know who aizen is tbh

yolo is lock swag

Claire's anonymous account in that one game where everyone had to submit a character and I watched the first 8 episodes of a mech anime (iirc that's what it was) so I could submit Kamina for my character, and it was extremely embarassing so that's all ima say about that.

Vibe checks loading.

Pizza cooking. Heck Aizen. @YOLOSWAG might I suggest Scumnori as an alternative for today, as opposed to giving them two more days? I don't feel comfortable letting them survive to tonight.

We can also do the topical thing and vote Bartozio.

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597710022 (#18)

Originally Posted by Fenrir 1597709636 (#14)

:grimacing: I'm sorry you're overwhelmed

Highkey where is everyone though, I was hyped to see old faces again (and also meet this ariadne person, who I think is the only member of the PL I haven't met before?)

ariadne used to go by reinfleche, who you might have been familiar with

idk for sure obv but

AH yes I know everyone on this PL hype (although I think I've only played mafia before with ~half)

(Hype intensifies)

I might go to get food maybe/see what there is to make/be made

Originally Posted by supa2 1597709766 (#15)

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597709523 (#12)

i can't believe supa sent supa2 to play and not weinergirl

I only bat my eyelashes when it's convenient

boneman when

:grimacing: I'm sorry you're overwhelmed

Highkey where is everyone though, I was hyped to see old faces again (and also meet this ariadne person, who I think is the only member of the PL I haven't met before?)

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1597709282 (#9)

I'm eating breakfast tacos

they're good

Made me realize I haven't eaten today, oops. How're life vibes?

We have family to thank for showing up right at 8:00 PM to ensure I couldn't get the first post.