Best Town Performance - Group (Small Game)
The Story about a Story by roro_b
Town sweep. Good playerlist, sure. So you may be thinking "of course this playerlist has a good chance to sweep, regardless of the wolf team!". I think recently we've seen a number of similar instances go completely the wrong direction. I think overall every town played to a high standard, even when their reads were wrong. I think they also contributed to an enjoyable gamestate despite some heat at times too.
yes myself ladd and spf have been having a field day trying to lunch each other recently
this game we finally got it right!!
this is the part where ladd replies to highlight that his reads were right in all of those games. shhhh ladd
End day at majority is enabled. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to reach majority.
Logic was eliminated. They were:
logirock, Backup Mafia Vigilante
Role PM for A Story About a Story - Invitational
You are logirock, Backup Mafia Vigilante. You win when you overpower the Town and are the only evil faction remaining.
As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.
Mafia Vigilante
As Mafia Vigilante, you have access to the Shoot Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.
If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.
Backup
The Backup modifier makes your role dormant and unusable until a non-Backup version of the same role dies. If a player with a non-Backup version of your role dies, you will take their place and be able to perform your actions.
Day 3 has ended.
Day 3 ended at 2:13 PM EST on Thursday, January 19th, 2023.
damn now instead of giving visor all the blame for the mislunch he takes all the credit
i always suspected you were saying you liked the case on visor but didn't actually read it
now you are saying you read it cause katze was a confirmed villager
but katze made his wall yesterday when he was not confirmed villager so what happened according to you is that this morning you found katze is a confirmed villager and you went back to read his case on visor
i just don't find it to be a very believable succession of events
to be quite honest idk how much id care about an early maj
part of me is like "damn it'd be such a throw to ML v!logic here" but if i said i thought strongly it was a miss and wanted to go elsewhere i'd have more to say (tldr: benneh is there)
But as for thoughts I haven't explicitly put into the thread, I don't think Ladd is a wolf.
I came into today thinking wisdom was a wolf, but the casing of visor and Beck had me reassessing those two, but I think I'm back around to visor v again.
I see dizzy saying she had received all these V-reads, so I backed off, but I am not really seeing it in my backread. (P#2, 100ppp)
that doesnt really explain why you think wisdom or dizzy are the wolves tho. can you elaborate on what about their posting makes them wolves?
what did you like about the case on visor? whats your thoughts on beck now?
Alright, this makes 10 posts in a row from me, so I'm going to backread and give you guys a chance to post your thoughts ITT.
Go nuts.
You really spent most of your posts just replying to things about yourself but nothing about who the wolf might be or even who your top villagers are
can you spend more time on that? even if its 30 posts in a row, i don't think anyone will mind
giving you your space to solve and i'll follow it if you die, but i don't really see anything from you besides a mild v lean on visor
You did miss me wondering why wisdom is V-read.
But as for thoughts I haven't explicitly put into the thread, I don't think Ladd is a wolf.
I came into today thinking wisdom was a wolf, but the casing of visor and Beck had me reassessing those two, but I think I'm back around to visor v again.
I see dizzy saying she had received all these V-reads, so I backed off, but I am not really seeing it in my backread. (P#2, 100ppp)
that doesnt really explain why you think wisdom or dizzy are the wolves tho. can you elaborate on what about their posting makes them wolves?
what did you like about the case on visor? whats your thoughts on beck now?
But if this is somehow wrong and we're living in an actual nightmare, then it's pretty unfair to Logic
The game has been simplified to a (regrettable) state where it’s Logic or I today.
I’ll shut up. How many of you then think Logic is a villager? Again, ignore my opinion. You should all be villagers. You should be able to trust one another on the collective Logic read. This is all on you all, not me.
Pressure or whatever, don’t overthink this game-state.
You all vote me out today because nobody can put on their adult pants and look at the STARK contrast in Logic’s and I’s posts today. And then I’ll get drunk for the Celtics game tonight and kick it in DVC with Apoc, spf, Ara, and Cuth, as we laugh at your silly willager internal dialogues as you all wait another 24h+ to end the game.
I don’t care.
damn you are a celtics fan
thats a point against you
You’re not a Warriors fan, I hope.
i am not SUPER into any team rn but i like sixers/pelicans the most
i was p into the sixers last 5 years or so, which helps my hate for the celtics
You all vote me out today because nobody can put on their adult pants and look at the STARK contrast in Logic’s and I’s posts today. And then I’ll get drunk for the Celtics game tonight and kick it in DVC with Apoc, spf, Ara, and Cuth, as we laugh at your silly willager internal dialogues as you all wait another 24h+ to end the game.
i am pretty convinced of just going logic-->beck and we win tbh
if logic posts well maybe we can switch them but i am 100% comfortable clearing visor now so game feels a lot easier (idk if i am gonna villa case him tbh, i am just gonna say that ill take the blame in post if he is the wolf and hopefully thats good enough for you guis)
wcs visor/dizzy/wisdom have to play f3 and gl to them if so
Alright, this makes 10 posts in a row from me, so I'm going to backread and give you guys a chance to post your thoughts ITT.
Go nuts.
You really spent most of your posts just replying to things about yourself but nothing about who the wolf might be or even who your top villagers are
can you spend more time on that? even if its 30 posts in a row, i don't think anyone will mind
giving you your space to solve and i'll follow it if you die, but i don't really see anything from you besides a mild v lean on visor
You did miss me wondering why wisdom is V-read.
But as for thoughts I haven't explicitly put into the thread, I don't think Ladd is a wolf.
I came into today thinking wisdom was a wolf, but the casing of visor and Beck had me reassessing those two, but I think I'm back around to visor v again.
I see dizzy saying she had received all these V-reads, so I backed off, but I am not really seeing it in my backread. (P#2, 100ppp)
that doesnt really explain why you think wisdom or dizzy are the wolves tho. can you elaborate on what about their posting makes them wolves?
what did you like about the case on visor? whats your thoughts on beck now?
he piggybacked on c4 when he say ladd do it because thats what he does, he has had an overwhelmingly majority of his post be one liners and jokes - its fair to say that he seems comfortable in thread enough, which is where i think we went wrong benneh
however, look at his play the last day and a half - he has no paranoia in his play, no paranoia on me! when i voted him in the org game he went on a DEATH TUNNEL back at me even when i dropped my vote and said to not kill him, he was convinced i was a wolf and that it was the right thing to do, he wrote a legacy lol, here hes just like oh well, good thing you guys are killing me haha, he's not paranoid of me like the rest of you are after i was wrong on katze
he hasnt DONE a lot of solving, hes piggybacked of others solving because thats what he does as a wolf
as an aside, i dont think c4 and marmot just give up unless the atmosphere in wolfchat is despondent
they gave up cause they got bussed and there was no chance
its just logic, thats why the game has felt wrong, why we have struggled to get the last wolf, because we've been misclearing them based on underestimating their game
i dont think logics reaction is very villagery when he should know if hes a villa that him being villa read is almost a lock win given the kill ordering
Also only one with absolutely 0 reaction to the nks (like marmot yday) and classic wolf catch up of only answering to other people's quotes
Ofc his d3 is only a v small part of the game but not a good sod
i dont think logics reaction is very villagery when he should know if hes a villa that him being villa read is almost a lock win given the kill ordering
Also only one with absolutely 0 reaction to the nks (like marmot yday) and classic wolf catch up of only answering to other people's quotes
Ofc his d3 is only a v small part of the game but not a good sod
i slept on it and read back on SoD, so here is a quick snap shot of where i am at before i go to work:
i genuinely dont see visor ever being a wolf. i am at a point where i am just not gonna let him get lunched if i am alive and i am willing to take the blame if wrong (i'll try to explain why in detail tomorrow so it's not just a pure sheep)
wisdom/dizzy have been villagery enough to me and have great spew, both of them. Don't think I see them as wolves but ofc i'll double check
logic has been a mixed bag for me all game, the good outweighted the bad but he does have some p bad posts (i remember wolfreading dizzy d1 for saying "pres" as a standout and a couple of other reads that did not seem genuine). also his d2 was far worse than his d1 imo (and his d3 so far is worse than his d2)
My concerns with him being a wolf are 1) apoc nk (feel like it's a beck nk, if visor is a villager) and 2) falling for the "path of least resistance trap" (tho like i'd argue logic is not an easy world at all given he is a lot more villa read than me/visor/beck)
for beck it's like, if I squint a bit I can see him as a wolf who tried to powerwolf at the start but thenr ealized it was not gonna work but it's suepr hard for me to read his posts and not just call im a villager and doubly hard to look him into the eye and tell him that I think he is a wolf. But he would be my #2 option after logic just by PoE i think
Yday your last posts with reads you had dizzy and wisdom in the PoE
How do you now agree with them being the 2 clears? Can you explain what changed/why you changed your mind?
Ara and katze being completely cleared has me reassessing and visor is making a good case on Beck, and katze made some sense on Visor yesterday.
Plus I'm kind of a softy when dizzy said something to the effect of "I'm practically lock cleared to everyone, maybe you should take their word for it."
Wisdom and you are the ones that I disagree with the most on that list.
What did you like specifically about visor's case?
actually this is a tangible difference huh, 3 MLs (but one is guaranteed) + 2 1 non-clear NK vs 3 MLs but all the NKs up until F3 are basically meaningless to read into
I am not entertaining it for the moment as heck is outside of my POE, but it is noted.
Does your PoE still include me and Wisdom?
Yes, after Ara, maybe Katze.
I don't see what everyone says is towny in you folks, and I while Ara has given me stuff in live-poating to vibe and waffle on, wisdom is barely moving the needle and I don't remember being here for most of katze's posts (sorry you're postcapped @katze, HMU after it's lifted and @me back)
Dizzy, you still have plenty of posts; try and convince me my poe is wrong.
One last silly thought i had before putting this down for good
If my quick math was right shooting katze to frame him and then mislunch him would have given the same result as killing cuth and clearing katze numbers wise
So for our identikit we are lookjng at someone who didnt want a free mislunch on katze
My first post was very towny. I'm doing a good job.
However, it's for sure going to be hard to keep it up. But I'm going to give it my all.
This looks like stilted dizzy, which means he's probably town because I always misread him.
I found this post wolfy because it's taking something at face value and then using it to 180-form a conclusion without any steps in between, I'd say it's a form of TMI that's level 1 rather than saying "this is a towny post from a town".
As in, he found a wolfy post and if he's a wolf he knows that it'll look better if he uses it to not push.
I'm not sure if I'm wording it correctly and I don't really feel confident about it considering my latest d1 tunnels, but it's what I got.
I was also kinds pinged by logic coming and stating with 100% confidence that marmot was lolcatting cause thats like exactly what I exlected the teammate to do and he was the only one who did (and it was in the early ohases of the cats)
Regardless my read is p much 100% just based on his posting
I'll have to take another look, I've been ISOing him for his thoughts on c4.
And that helps. I wish I could get there, but it's tough to not at least see a wolf agenda in his posts because he's actively pushing me. And I don't think his posts have been genuine/honest, it very much feels like he's twisting my actions and hyperbolizing to make me look worse. I'm not going to stand here and say I got every wolf first, I probably don't look great everywhere, but it feels like Visor is being deceptive in his representation of me.
Anyway. Sorry to keep you.
No worries no worries its just that phones are a drug so once you start its hard to put them down amd go back to sleep
I am a bit busy today (thursday) but i am free-ish the day after so ill try my best to explain why imo its never visor and i hope i am not wrong
Cool, no worries. I want Visor to be a villager as much as any of you do, because then my early "all villas" list is correct.
I'll work up the POE and see what I can find.
I could still be a wolf!
But anyway that sounds good to me, ill try to be as thourough as possible as well
I never understood that either. Dont think visor looks good from c4 (looks yood from marmot tho)
My feeling is that his posting is just too villagery and serves p much no purpose as a wolf (+i have recolletions of him being more pockety/appeasy as a wolf)
With that being said I havent thought far enough about the implications of clearing visor in a world where katze/ara are both v and idr think you are a wolf either
I have a possible solution but i think yall wont like it
Anyway i gotta try to go back to sleep cause if i get sucked in its over
I have yet to get to D2 and marmot. I don't recall him looking as good, but I'm fine with being wrong. D2 may be a more difficult read, though, because marmot felt DOA, at least once I got into the thread. Any smart wolf would've bussed him early, too.
And yeah, take care of yourself first, see you tomorrow.
He was on marmot on d1 before it was cool
Regardless my read is p much 100% just based on his posting
I'll have to take another look, I've been ISOing him for his thoughts on c4.
And that helps. I wish I could get there, but it's tough to not at least see a wolf agenda in his posts because he's actively pushing me. And I don't think his posts have been genuine/honest, it very much feels like he's twisting my actions and hyperbolizing to make me look worse. I'm not going to stand here and say I got every wolf first, I probably don't look great everywhere, but it feels like Visor is being deceptive in his representation of me.
Anyway. Sorry to keep you.
No worries no worries its just that phones are a drug so once you start its hard to put them down amd go back to sleep
I am a bit busy today (thursday) but i am free-ish the day after so ill try my best to explain why imo its never visor and i hope i am not wrong
C4 not voting and low post count is prob in a vacuum Wolfy but I think they'd be more cognisant of this in this playerlist andi might circle around to calling it villagery
Though I don't like it
Ara wolf reading apoc just feels wrong
Ara/katze/manti rn I think is where I wanna look
Though I'm fine with c4 being a wagon, very possible my above read is just silly and reading too much into tea leaves compared to taking their posts at face value where they are obv performative and out of touch
I even make the mistake of following him onto Cuth. Hello? Anyone else?
I never understood that either. Dont think visor looks good from c4 (looks yood from marmot tho)
My feeling is that his posting is just too villagery and serves p much no purpose as a wolf (+i have recolletions of him being more pockety/appeasy as a wolf)
With that being said I havent thought far enough about the implications of clearing visor in a world where katze/ara are both v and idr think you are a wolf either
I have a possible solution but i think yall wont like it
Anyway i gotta try to go back to sleep cause if i get sucked in its over
I have yet to get to D2 and marmot. I don't recall him looking as good, but I'm fine with being wrong. D2 may be a more difficult read, though, because marmot felt DOA, at least once I got into the thread. Any smart wolf would've bussed him early, too.
And yeah, take care of yourself first, see you tomorrow.
He was on marmot on d1 before it was cool
Regardless my read is p much 100% just based on his posting