Type: Posts; User: Cape90
i am confused about the lying discussion and why it matters
(obviously im not expecting all points)
Prince what are your thoughts on Ciderhead?
misvotes happen, as town i just grump spew out information then tell town to sheep me and that im 100% correct and that town are silly for voting me
I think PJ has played fairly suboptimal
PJ might be town i have no idea
wow prince put cider over spf confirmed so that means spf is princes mafia partner confirmed
just the tldr of it anyways
my official read on frostburn is they are strange but still town
i'm not sure why PJ hasn't played this way a day ago where he is actually leaving a legacy
i make big post
i vote ciderhead because ppl voting PJ
ciderhead didnt respond until this phase
i liked the response and all that but at the time it made sense.
I wasn't going to vote florence or vandy because of the evidential spew
also vandy has been towny recently but thats a side note
Prince having me in both POE and a president contender today is LMAO
NGL I like some of vandys posts on page 64
Taken from the person who nominates Ciderhead
Don't vote Ciderhead.
I only voted him because I thought there was a chance he might have been scum and prince j was getting nommed already and if he wasn't I was gonna get on Florences case
good job frost even though i think ur wrong lol
it does concern me, if prince isn't mafia but that is really my only concern. I think my other option would be Ciderhead
I have a feeling that Prince J has definitely already been voted so Ima the best and will vote someone else
Ciderhead - I don't super get why Ciderhead voted me as president today. I would say P#2976 is decently accurate on Vandy, not sure why see it is NAI but sure. Cider going off of my idea is very interesting to me. I think the points on P#3009 were fair and things that I saw earlier. Cider's read on Schweppes is 1. he's been antagonistic and 2. Cider usually townreads Schweppes but doesn't this game. But Cider also mentioned not being good at reading Schweppes (P#2552) but also they usually townread Schweppes (P#2719)? P#2718 breaks down why Cider scumreads Schweppes so here are the actual points.
1. Cider says Schweppes is low energy in posting/having no fun. I feel like this is a reason people have been tinfoiling me this game, but okay.
2. Cider claims Schweppes only townreads active players. (Schweppes doesn't townread me or DoctorZeus but whatever bad point).
3. Schweppes' doom-mongering (i kinda townread Schweppes for this admittedly).
4. Schweppes jumped on Cider for switching from Raji to Vandy.
5. Cider says more things like P#2720 which IDK what Cider is getting at here since I find that Rajidae post Cider pulled up not partnered with Schweppes for WIFOMy reasons.
6. Points to Schweppes having awkward interactions with Rajidae P#2728. Not bad.
7. Schweppes confidently read Vandy day 1. Contradicts the point of Schweppes only confidently reading active players.
I guess Ciderhead voted me as placeholder for president. But Cider literally calls me LAMIST in P#2743? IDK I personally wouldn't want a LAMIST president myself.
I like the train of thought in P#2724 and some moments of the busy work that is P#2183 reading spew from Hyena POV.
Day 2 Cider wanted Peter/Schweppes/Prince/Hyena in POE.
Cider does reference their own posts fairly often. I kinda like the devils advocate thought pattern in P#1908.
There are things with Cider that are good, some that seem a bit contradictory. I feel like he picks up reads and drops others randomly, I feel like Cider is more in finding mafia then finding town to put it better.
DoctorZeus - I feel like I am eating a sock if this is mafia. Like they have just been pocketing me for a good majority of the game if they are wolf and have been making. DZ is doing busy work that is both busy and actually really helpful. I don't see any real scumreads on DZ that hold any weight (sorry Schweppes). I agree that Prince's comment on wanting Raj dead over Vandy does lean town for me, but I do struggle really pointing to much of anything else. I also want to point to P#2860 which is a post that DZ townread but Prince replicated in hydra game as wolf last minute.
Not sure I gel with the reasons for townreading Frostburn in P#2697 (where DZ sourced P#2585) but i gel with the rest of it.
I am not gonna worry about this slot too much for reasons.
EvilContract - I find EC's trains of thought to just point to him being town this game. Treatment of SPF is towny today. Not wanting Hyena as president seems meldy enough. I don't see valid reasons to think EC is suspicious this game. I liked P#2243. There isn't really individual posts, it's more a whole picture thing that looks towny for me with the slot. Even with all of that said, I am not super sure I would put in govt position LMAO. I'm not sure if EC actually townreads SPF or not, but they were in his towncore day 2. P#2043 is a very interesting thought...
Florence Artemis - Be here more plz... Voted PJ thought so cool. Says in P#1894 that they agree DZ is wolf I guess for ??? reasons. They have been literally non-existent since day 1. Maybe I should tinfoil this over Vandy. Could be spewed off of Rajidae pretty heavily townreading them (that could have been an early protection on wolf partner).
FrostburnPhoenix - Meh I don't feel like Frost is that scummy, they have been kinda going aggro after who they scumread which is just a playstyle thing it seems like. I don't feel strongly about this, but it's like, absolutely nothing is pinging me.
Hyena - Dunno why people voted them as president, they just don't seem to have the best grip on the game in a townleadery way even though I think they are pretty town and came into today fairly strong making a pretty towny post. I think the PJ treatment is confusing but probably comes from town anyways. If they were concerned about 1. scumreading me 2. making sure PJ didn't go over, why would they elect Schweppes/DZ as judges? Doesn't seem like a scum POV type thing in a Hyena/Prince world.
Prince J - Spoke about this in P#2670/P#2671/P#2677 and I think that about covers it
Schweppes - Called me being town Cape earlier (P#1236) which doesn't match his POV now. I don't get why Schweppes was all doom and gloom day 1, but I get day 2 just due to activity plummeting, like it has been this game, especially today, like has anyone voted? wtf? I am confused though on why people scumread this slot otherwise, they seem like town!Schweppes to me. I like their recent progression on my slot when they were realtiming with me today. P#2537 was a real spicy nacho there Schweppes. Some of day 2 is kinda mediocre to me I guess. I don't like the lack of returning to P#2326 in terms of this Florence thought. Day 3 > Day 2 Schweppes IMO. Also doesn't look great from day 1 if Florence is town. Also Schweppes held onto the thought in P#1709 until later for some reason.
staypositivefriend - Good president, might have had pure govt day 1 if Hyena is town. Literally only seen people scumread this slot off of dumb WIFOM reasons admittedly, even though I am bad at reading SPF. I liked how their thought processes came through in some of their detailed posts. Might explore this at night.
Vandyfan402 - I think P#2988 covers it though I do feel like
this part is actually a decent reason why Vandy is just town.
KINDA MORE TOWN LEAN ACTUALLY THEN MIXED I GUESS WHICH IS TOTALLY NOT ME HEDGING
im gonna look through players and give thoughts in upcoming larger post
i townread them both. the only thing i recall from you is that you think they aren't w/w.
As much as I like Vandy voting for DZ like I did, he kinda is rambling about mech mostly today and who should be president, I don't think Vandy declaring DZ is non-negotiable lock in for cabinet hurt his chances, in fact if I was president I would have done the same in having DZ in my govt. I didn't like Vandy's progression on the Peter slot.
Vandy felt more involved and less flat day 1
P#1312/P#1315 are decent looks in terms of noticing stuff/engagement. I feel like for the most part it hasn't really been super there, I guess one of the closest things you could point to is Vandy's read on me with posting too much busy work.
Vandy has a really easy way to carry town after voting out Rajidae and he just feels like he's throwing stuff at the wall on day 2 and 3. Vandy lost conviction to solve after Raidae gone over, and you can see proof of this with lack of show-by-example posts like P#1113
There seemed to be more nuance to Vandy's reads day 1 then any other day and there is also a broader view on the playerlist from that day as I feel like Vandy just hasn't been talking about more then like 3-4 people after that.
Even day 1 Vandy would say hedgy stuff like P#632/P#633/P#641. Not the most egregious stuff in the world since he has had confident reads day 1 that didn't appear hedgy.
I think a decent towncase for Vandy day 1 and in general is Vandy had this read on Florence P#541/P#546/P#547 and it would have been very easy for wolf to just stay in this lane and not just swap into thinking it's Rajidae going as far as to vote them up to be up for elimination.
I'm willing to let it simmer as truth be told, i am just pressuring vandy into doing more quite frankly