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  1. Postgame#1331

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed gg had fun. I like the posting restrictions for...

    gg had fun. I like the posting restrictions for the game and the decreasing post count.

    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#1330)
    to the players, how did it work in an ultralight format?
    okay so the very start of the rand, when we first got our roles, only 1 person got mafia captain, while everyone else was Not the mafia captain (there were no actual roles like VT assigned until later when the mafia captain chose their 2 players they wanted to recruit)
  2. Day 5#1294

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    Completed Wisdom self-pres? :sparkleshrug: I think...

    ##Vote Wisdom

    self-pres?

    I think Wisdom mafia flip tells a lot but i dont find it likely
  3. Day 5#1291

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    Completed im sorry I didnt really come to a clear answer...

    im sorry I didnt really come to a clear answer and I don't really have one, I would say maybe Val/Scipio, those interactions seemed a little strange

    if one of the mafia is not just Zugz tbh. I am really unsure about all this so sorry
  4. Day 5#1289

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    Completed I am kinda not fully here Valentine best...

    I am kinda not fully here

    ##Vote Valentine

    best guess is this + someone, they just seemed partnered with the most people from what I have read

    If I go over, well, best of luck to yall in 3-2 territory but maybe I be glad that's not my business
  5. Day 5#1280

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    Completed Also, pretty obvious what real slip implies, it...

    Also, pretty obvious what real slip implies, it means that Zugz is just town here
  6. Day 5#1279

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    Completed I discussed this earlier, like the first post of...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1277)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#1275)
    Now that I am looking at it closer, P#76 and P#93 have this sort of towny talking to Vivax vibe to them even if I think Zugz and Valentine look a bit partnery here.
    P#115 and P#132 feel at least pretty solvy when it comes to Zugzwang
    Said that Zugz was in their own world and not worth pushing in P#245 comes back to this point at P#570
    In towncore in P#569
    Perceives the push on Zugz as oppurtunisticish on P#837

    Man they do kinda look partnered in a way maybe idk

    The problem is is what if the whole slip was actually real? That's what bothers me, you know
    What would that imply for you? What does a fake slip mean for you?
    I discussed this earlier, like the first post of the day ago

    It would mean that Egix was trying a fancy play where one of me/Zugz is mafia (Zugz FMPOV obviously)

    The thing is, I really do not see why me or Zugz would have been like, night killed there, which is why P#1167 is strange to me. Like I have been misvote material for a good chunk of this game, today included
  7. Day 5#1278

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    Completed Of course there is always The Penguin and Wisdom...

    Of course there is always The Penguin and Wisdom which already feels a bit strange in the sort of WIFOMy thing that Wisdom presented in P#17.
    P#276 feels like a strange question to ask a mafia partner like that
    Off the topic a little bit, I feel like P#282 makes me not think that Wisdom/Egix is a thing
    Wisdom's NKA probably just disproves this team all together in P#445 lol

    Yeah, it's obviously not these 2




    Regarding Zugz/Penguin
    Zugz kinda makes some passive comments about Penguin which are more informational in P#203, Zugz says he hasn't read much of ss/penguin/wisdom in P#499.
    Zugz wonders about the case on Penguin in P#988
    in P#1136
    Penguin does look pretty bad based on what Beagle is saying, but I don't think bussing makes sense here, so likely they're w/v.
    this is very odd.

    Penguin does not seem to like Zugz whole Wisdom read but chalks it up to clash in play style in P#100
    Penguin says in P#204 that she likes the fact that Zugz rethinked his read on Valentine. P#385 Penguin says she agrees with Vivax/Zug being v/v
    Has Zug in towncore in P#514
    Penguin says that Zugz vote and unvote off of me looks good in P#782
    But proceeds later to shade Zugz for sheeping reads rather then developing his own reads in P#925.
    Says Zugz is in secondary POE in P#929, then has Zugz in towncore in P#1047?

    Not sure, but I could see it, Zugzwang's offputting comments make me unsure
  8. Day 5#1276

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    Completed I feel like you have said more about me and gave...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#1269)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1268)
    Explain why you changed your vote from Cape to Zug, please
    They're aligned in most worlds, but if for some reason I'm wrong Zug is >>>> wolfier than Cape. I voted Cape initially because I thought that would be the wagon that'd save me but since that doesn't seem to be a issue anymore I'd rather go Zug.
    I feel like you have said more about me and gave a more concrete scum case about... me you know?
  9. Day 5#1275

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    Completed Now that I am looking at it closer, P#76 and P#93...

    Now that I am looking at it closer, P#76 and P#93 have this sort of towny talking to Vivax vibe to them even if I think Zugz and Valentine look a bit partnery here.
    P#115 and P#132 feel at least pretty solvy when it comes to Zugzwang
    Said that Zugz was in their own world and not worth pushing in P#245 comes back to this point at P#570
    In towncore in P#569
    Perceives the push on Zugz as oppurtunisticish on P#837

    Man they do kinda look partnered in a way maybe idk

    The problem is is what if the whole slip was actually real? That's what bothers me, you know


    From Val's end, I don't get much about Penguin, also don't really see interaction there either.
    Val has them in towncore in P#569, sort of retracts this in P#664 and immediately right after this says they are paranoid about Penguin in P#665.
    I find this pattern of behavior... peculiar and I don't know what that means in terms of partnership.

    On Penguin's end, I feel like P#447 the way penguin handled Valentine in the unrelated section to me feels wishy washy on the slot.
    Penguin has been calling Val town a lot like in P#514, P#338, P#100
    The world presented in P#477 confuses me in terms of Penguin and Valentine
    I feel like P#540 would be something that would be perhaps a bit on the nose when it comes to Valentine. Says they felt nice in P#599
    I think P#818 and P#825 and P#911 look really scummy either way partner or not of Valentine given all that Penguin has said on the slot up to this point
    Comments on how bad Valentine's EOD voting on day 4 was in P#1020

    Weird treatment of slot, IDK if partnery
  10. Day 5#1274

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    Completed That was right about what I was gonna get back to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1273)
    @Cape90 what world do you think is most likely right now?
    That was right about what I was gonna get back to figuring out right now
    Valentine keeps getting on my radar and idk how to feel about that given recent postings
  11. Day 5#1265

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    Completed Scipio's Penguin progression is all over the...

    Scipio's Penguin progression is all over the place with P#35, P#393, bottom of P#521 just feels like, well obviously I don't think it's exactly all that partnery, but it is something having that like 3 posts in a row (okay not true but I meant the posts that were discussing Penguin) talking about penguin.

    I like the question posed in P#523. Probably not partnered.




    Scipio/Valentine looks maybe viable with P#523.
    They say first in P#145
    I like this read and also like valentine's posting in general
    I kind of like the proposed concern in P#895 followed up by P#898.
    Then Scipio calls Valentine genuine in P#1054
    eeeeeh idk about this?
  12. Day 5#1264

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    Completed I think P#145 and P#147 are enough for me to...

    I think P#145 and P#147 are enough for me to think that Beagle/Scipio aren't partners, there is also P#1212 so
    Also, wasn't able to find much in Beagle's ISO itself which is why this was last lol.

    The way Scipio has been a person who just kinda agrees with whatever Wisdom is saying means they probs aren't wolf partners, like on P#1100 or like
    I think ichigo was pressing too far into wisdom's entrance post when I didn't see anything wrong with it
    At the same time I don't think he was actually calling them scummy but rather just pushing so it's probably just a playstyle thing
    This part of P#145 and the reasoning in P#336. Also sidenote P#343 is like awkward if both Wisdom and Scipio w/w lol.

    I suppose it wasn't like all just like, I guess pockety looking stuff like in P#521 or the bottom of P#811, also P#1101 is really strange on that topic lol.
  13. Day 5#1263

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    Completed I really don't think it's Beagle/Wisdom based on...

    I really don't think it's Beagle/Wisdom based on P#1073, P#1129, and the way beagle referenced this Wisdom post later in P#1213, and P#1220 where they say that Valentine isn't mafia partners with Wisdom, which would literally leave them with Scipio1 or The Penguin

    Even early game shows this with P#281 and their reasoning for Wisdom in P#312




    About Beagle/The Penguin, I find Beagle going from P#312 to P#990 very interesting, and no they do not interact or whatever with penguin in between any of that time.
    I don't know what Beagle means by "but effort wins out for me today" on P#1004. They vote Penguin the next day in P#1048.
    I don't think if Beagle/Penguin are a thing P#1098 is a post that exists .

    I think I am ruling out that world probably

    Oh ur asking me why I chose to do these analyses posts on Beagle eh? Their post was right above mine today so I felt it convenient to start there okay?
  14. Day 5#1262

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    Completed I think Beagle could be partners with Valentine...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1220)
    I can see Wisdom Penguin or Wisdom Sciprio with scum realizing they need to bus today and nightkill Cape and Zugzwang next two nights as a strategy. I think Valentine is amusingly the least likely Wisdom partner despite them not going at them right now because of early stuff.

    I can see Cape Zugzwang with the slip being fake to prevent the game from being both of those two dying in a row and probably getting egix next from spew. Again we don't need to solve this ourselves at least yet.

    I've felt Valentine's posts have been townier lately which has made me less inclined to continue that push reguardless of not being scum with Wisdom in my mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1097)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#1082)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#1059)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#1058)
    idk how what wisdom pointed out is a TMI slip or even scummy at all
    wait

    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#500)
    do you and other people hope to be the n1 kill or something?
    This does almost imply that you knew that Swedish was town wtf

    ##Vote Zugzwang

    I can't believe it
    Oh dear this is also a weird post.
    Who even says "I can't believe it" naturally in a mafia game.
    lol I wasn't going to say it but yeah this.

    My mind is at kill Zugzwang who I believe will flip mafia and then focus on Penguin, Cape, and Valentine. Which does mean you're off the hook for now and also means I'm looking at Cape having been hellbussed day 2 and saved by town as a possibility if Valentine is town.
    I think Beagle could be partners with Valentine based on some of the bolded.

    Also early progressions like on P#294, P#312, (they vote Valentine as a proxy, then), P#847, P#855, and lastly P#970 where like Beagle is comfortable voting Valentine?
  15. Day 5#1261

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    Completed immediately on these impressions over here it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1069)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#1068)
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1067)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#1066)



    I guess there's that
    But generally there's a note of congratulations in "gg", is there not?
    Like, if someone completes something, they did something good/well if people say gg
    I conceed that your interpretation is a possible one and likely your actually interpretation reguardless of alignment since you said that either way, but I'm not reading it as a slip myself, just a really scummy way of reading and reacting to a gg. It just doesn't seem natural to me and I scumread a good bulk of your other play already so moments like that don't help.
    so why is it scummy if it's not a slip?
    It's scummy because you immediately talk about it in the sense of it being him wanting a nightkill which reads like a continuation of a discussion which involved killing Swedish or Zergon night one. I don't think your interpretation should be the first natural thing a town thinks of seeing a gg.

    I say it was probably your reaction reguardless of alignment because as town you're not lying about your thoughts despite how unnatural of a reaction it is to me and as wolf that is how you read it and responded to it since you thought that was the way to read it.
    immediately on these impressions over here it isn't Beagle/Zugz based on this convo
  16. Day 5#1260

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    Completed Alright so it is 5-2 right now If I go over it...

    Alright so it is 5-2 right now

    If I go over it will become 3-2 by the next day

    I am not playing like a clear because Egix's play was so strange yesterday that it seemed fishy to even me. I know I am town but I also knew this would just likely just happen anyways and with me now thinking Wisdom is just town and Valentine looks like town today, this makes me start to just think that some wifom tactic was deployed making it zugz +1

    It's exasperating being in this continuous position to where I am almost eliminated.

    Now it could have just been a genuine slip too but the post seems a little "HI I AM DEFINATELY IN WOLF CHAT" versus what you would actually say in wolf chat, at least to me lol
  17. Day 5#1248

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    Completed What exactly do you mean by this by the way?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1238)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#1237)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1234)
    nope
    ...
    Why are you voting Cape then?x)
    Cuz I am stupid and probably missing something obvious, so might aswell trust ya
    What exactly do you mean by this by the way?
  18. Day 5#1247

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    Completed the fact I agree with what Wisdom is saying about...

    the fact I agree with what Wisdom is saying about Valentine in P#1245 ughguhguhgughughguh

    ##Unvote Wisdom

    Come on mafia lemme autopilot
  19. Day 5#1246

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    Completed I really think Scipio has just been sidelining...

    I really think Scipio has just been sidelining this whole time
  20. Day 5#1236

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    Completed You really expect me to just go from a state...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#1226)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#1194)
    I wish I knew what was going on, I just hope this is mafia, otherwise I will actually be angry
    This is such an awkward thing to end the day with after calling Egix a wolf a lot, without ever actually pushing him. I expect Cape who just got spewed as town to be filled with fire and hype to finally bury a wolf. This sounds like he’s tired and forcing himself to post. A deflated balloon.
    You really expect me to just go from a state where I was for sure thinking I was dead to all of the sudden just POG IM TOWNSPEWED LETS GO! It was just a weird predicament to be in to more of like a shock to the system, like I didn't fully grasp what was even going on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#1059)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#500)
    do you and other people hope to be the n1 kill or something?
    This does almost imply that you knew that Swedish was town wtf

    ##Vote Zugzwang

    I can't believe it
    Again, this is a really awkward push on Zug, especially after calling him wolf a lot even though he didn't push that either. I expect a real "gotcha" moment here but again, deflated balloon.[/QUOTE]

    I think this post just reflects on my general energy, I am really not that expressive normally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#431)
    TOWN:

    Zugzwang - Progression on slots looks towny and agendaless, dont think starting post is wolfy.
    Beagle - I think they are most certainly town gimmicking.

    LIGHT MAFIA:

    Egix96 - Just one of those ISOs that just does nothing for me.
    aphelios - They have 2 posts and they mean nothing to me. Can be towny, but I guess not here
    Cape's d1 reads. D2 onward it's like this post never existed, considering he starts to distance from Zug and puts Egix as "strange town".[/QUOTE]

    It was always on the back of my mind, but I kept getting distracted with other people and other things. Looking back, a lot of Egixs' content really comes out as dry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#890)
    There is Egix which Zugz has also played a little strangely around.
    @The Penguin do you see what I see here? [/QUOTE]

    Was referring to P#645, P#739, P#761 thanks for asking

    I will say P#1075, and P#1078 are quite... interesting
  21. Day 5#1235

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    Completed Some thoughts that I had: -Valentine's posting...

    Some thoughts that I had:

    -Valentine's posting looks towny today so does Penguin's posting.
    -So the Egix thing was really strange and I think there are 2 possibilities from where I am standing
    1. Both me and Zugzwang are both spewed town from Egix
    2. Egix made a convoluted play to try to WIFOM a world where both me and Zugz are mafia when in reality it's Zugz +1 but Egix intends to drag me down with Zugz?

    I am not really sure that makes sense though
    -I find it strange that neither me or Zugz were night killed.
    -At the point, the team is probably Wisdom/Scipio?

    ##Vote Wisdom
  22. Day 4#1194

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    Completed I wish I knew what was going on, I just hope this...

    I wish I knew what was going on, I just hope this is mafia, otherwise I will actually be angry
  23. Day 4#1187

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    Completed Egix what did you mean by P#1167 what are you...

    Egix what did you mean by P#1167 what are you saying there?
  24. Day 4#1177

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    Completed YOU WERE ON ZUG

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#1176)
    I put Cape as top wagon on ourpose. No one jumped to his rescue
    YOU WERE ON ZUG
  25. Day 4#1171

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    Completed lol what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Egix96 (#1167)
    we could prolly just galaxy brain this and nk the one who doesnt get yeeted
    lol what?
  26. Day 4#1168

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    Completed lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Egix96 (#1165)
    @Zugzwang if ypu are town you need to be here rn
    lol
  27. Day 4#1166

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    Completed Well, not my fault if town just wants to just go...

    Well, not my fault if town just wants to just go into MYLO like this

    I have said what I needed to say so
  28. Day 4#1157

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    Completed Penguin looks better from some of her posts today...

    Penguin looks better from some of her posts today

    I don't think Wisdom is ever mafia with Zugz, but if Zugz somehow is town, maybe consider Wisdom as I feel like they just kinda are autopiloting
  29. Day 4#1156

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    Completed If I go over, you go Zugz/Scipio/Valentine in...

    If I go over, you go Zugz/Scipio/Valentine in that order. It's really that simple
  30. Day 4#1155

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    Completed I think Zugz is in anti spew and trying to smear...

    I think Zugz is in anti spew and trying to smear my name to make me go down with him
  31. Day 4#1154

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    Completed Just day 1 you were calling Zugz lock town ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#1127)
    Zug ~always mafia and the fact no wagoning is happening makes me sussed Cape too. But yeah Zug first and foremost.
    Just day 1 you were calling Zugz lock town

    What changed?
  32. Day 4#1153

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    Completed zugz be like "everybody is scummy except ichigo...

    zugz be like "everybody is scummy except ichigo and scipio" which is already a mafa looking perspective but like

    hasn't scipio basically been doing the same thing as Egix lol. It literally is what it looks like to me
  33. Day 4#1118

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    Completed okay but how have I openwolved at EoD day 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Egix96 (#1096)
    Cape - Started openwolfing EoD2, still hasn't been yeeted yet, I wonder why???
    okay but how have I openwolved at EoD day 2?
  34. Day 4#1117

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    Completed EBWOP P#1075 Mafia like to have reads...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#1116)
    The timing of P#1095 feels... convenient from zugz
    EBWOP P#1075

    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#1078)
    You're saying it's scummy to have reads that are too reasonable. It's quite likely a townie will have some very reasonable reads. You can't call having one or two of those scummy, because it's only scummy in large quantities.
    Mafia like to have reads either:
    1. To not step on anybody's toes especially early game
    or
    2. With an agenda in mind

    and what Beagle is getting at I think is point #1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#1083)
    I think Cape is also a wolf. Dunno who the third one is.
    You know, you kept mildly defending me until today, sup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#1085)
    To touch a bit on the analysis of Cape's votes that I can't finish now, there are question marks in his reasons for voting and I would like an explanation for the vote in P#632, and a detail for p#804 @Cape90
    The aforementioned scumminess of day 1 overshadowed day 2 for me in terms of Egix. Can't say I am truly inspired by their posting today

    What detail do you want for P#804? From my perspective as town it looked like zugz was voting back and forth between me and aphelios because he didn't care who died there as I know the wagons were t/t at least from a retrospective angle. The night kill was Vivax, who was heavily pushing for the demise of Zugzwang and this was matching up with Zugz just being mafia.
  35. Day 4#1116

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    Completed The timing of P#1095 feels... convenient from zugz

    The timing of P#1095 feels... convenient from zugz
  36. Day 4#1115

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    Completed im looking at zugz and Beagle's conversation down...

    im looking at zugz and Beagle's conversation down to P#1074 and I just don't really know if I have words to express how lost I am trying to mentally follow all this lol.
  37. Day 4#1113

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    Completed This is a really weird read. There is not a...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#1062)
    my natural reaction to seeing "gg zergon" was thinking that ss wanted to be nightkilled
    why do I have to know SS was town to think that?
    This is a really weird read. There is not a mention here of even if Swedish wanted to be nightkilled why mafia would go out of their way to kill Swedish if Swedish so dearly wanted to be NKed
  38. Day 4#1112

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    Completed Randomly just wanna say that Wisdom/Zugz are...

    Randomly just wanna say that Wisdom/Zugz are obviously not w/w here lol
  39. Day 4#1111

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    Completed What is making you change your mind about me? ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio1 (#1052)
    honestly I wanted to vote out cape and swedish seemed more likely partnered than penguin
    But idk if I even wanna vote cape anymore
    What is making you change your mind about me?


    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio1 (#1053)
    Why are you blindly accepting that towncore?

    I don't agree with your logic for cape/you/swedish being v/v/v because that was a full hour before eod and things can happen
    What exactly do you mean by things here? I am not sure anhymore if we are v/v/v since this game is coming down to the wire while we haven't killed a mafia yet. I am starting to get a little unsure about Beagle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scipio1 (#1054)
    dumb read but I feel like val's being genuine
    I kinda just read it as AtE and mafia love participating in that so
  40. Day 4#1110

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed Oh, yeah I should have seen the second part of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1050)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#1033)
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1011)
    @Cape90 @Kurosaki Ichigo We should become a towncore. I felt you were both very town yesterday despite being major wagons. I'm not comfortable sorting past that but I'm leaning back toward how I was reading the game earlier with Wisdom Zug and Valentine being mafia. The issue with that is both Zug and Val pushed Wisdom early looking back so not sure they make a lot of sense as a team.
    Yeah, in a sort of quasi way I can see at least one of them being partners with Wisdom, but probably not both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#529)
    Kurosaki Ichigo
    town -> obvious town
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#970)
    I'm unlikely to end on Kurosaki or Cape based on their posting today. I'm hesitant to go on Swedish from my previous read but its falling and am comfortable voting on Valentine.
    Now before this whole "towncore" thing. I find it kind of strange that you called Kurosaki just town by just keeping on repeating it. You even do it in P#801. While it feels like you had progression on my slot, it doesn't look like to me that you had progression really on Kurosaki's slot despite you grouping both me and Kurosaki together.
    At any point were you doubting your townread on Ichigo?
    Both questions are answered in 978. I've felt he's been towny most of the game and I did doubt the read for the point I called scummy but didn't think it mattered more than my read on his play as a whole.
    Oh, yeah I should have seen the second part of that post, it would have cleared that up in terms of unsaid progression at least from earlier
  41. Day 4#1109

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed I don't know how to feel about this answer gut...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1049)
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1048)
    ##Vote The Penguin

    I don't see how you ever have me as a comfortable townread with how you've talked about me this game. Did you forget your own stances or what? No, I don't trust the people in that core.
    Maybe
    I don't know how to feel about this answer

    gut tells me it's kinda towny
  42. Day 4#1108

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    Completed What part of it is exaggerated? Is it like, the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Egix96 (#1036)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1020)
    Kuro was thinking that EOD was at another time and then came with P#996, which I feel is too solvy to be fakeable right now.
    I can at least understand the EoD time mixup being +town but I think the comment on 996 is a huge exaggeration.
    What part of it is exaggerated? Is it like, the part where Ichigo says Penguin isn't genuinely trying to solve there?
  43. Day 4#1061

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    Completed I hope im not being goofy again

    I hope im not being goofy again
  44. Day 4#1059

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    Completed wait This does almost imply that you knew...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#1058)
    idk how what wisdom pointed out is a TMI slip or even scummy at all
    wait

    Quote Originally Posted by Zugzwang (#500)
    do you and other people hope to be the n1 kill or something?
    This does almost imply that you knew that Swedish was town wtf

    ##Vote Zugzwang

    I can't believe it
  45. Day 4#1035

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed I didn't make it clear in the post (oops) but I...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1020)
    I dont see how cape fully goes from P#989 to their vote in P#992.
    I didn't make it clear in the post (oops) but I did not like the whole odd progression thing or the passive comments or the fact you felt different from your other days. Or the disconnect I pointed out in P#991.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#1020)
    Also, Why didnt Cape push Val. Based P#875 and P#890 it looks like Val is their top scum, but they dont push as hard as I would expect a from them as town. So maybe cape val being the combo makes sense??
    I made it pretty obvious I preferred that one to you and Swedish, but hardly anyone was biting and it was coming down to the wire, didn't exactly want Swedish to die (I knew something was fishy when nobody jumped on my idea of the scumslip). And you Penguin looked significantly more out of steam day 3 which I find to be a mafia trait.
  46. Day 4#1033

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed Yeah, in a sort of quasi way I can see at least...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#1011)
    @Cape90 @Kurosaki Ichigo We should become a towncore. I felt you were both very town yesterday despite being major wagons. I'm not comfortable sorting past that but I'm leaning back toward how I was reading the game earlier with Wisdom Zug and Valentine being mafia. The issue with that is both Zug and Val pushed Wisdom early looking back so not sure they make a lot of sense as a team.
    Yeah, in a sort of quasi way I can see at least one of them being partners with Wisdom, but probably not both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#529)
    Kurosaki Ichigo
    town -> obvious town
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle (#970)
    I'm unlikely to end on Kurosaki or Cape based on their posting today. I'm hesitant to go on Swedish from my previous read but its falling and am comfortable voting on Valentine.
    Now before this whole "towncore" thing. I find it kind of strange that you called Kurosaki just town by just keeping on repeating it. You even do it in P#801. While it feels like you had progression on my slot, it doesn't look like to me that you had progression really on Kurosaki's slot despite you grouping both me and Kurosaki together.
    At any point were you doubting your townread on Ichigo?
  47. Day 3#991

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    Completed There seems to be a disconnect from this ...

    There seems to be a disconnect from this

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#447)
    Val, in the last 5 min of the day, really started to AtE (P#432 and P#436). So is this a defense of aphelios due to them being teammates or is it just a part of val? From the low low amount I know about val, I would say its NAI.
    and this

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#514)
    Val - Seems to kinda be playing for them selves, which is kinda townie.
  48. Day 3#989

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed I am more confused by this wording if anything,...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#540)
    Wisdom, do you have any more mafia takes than the one with me and Swedish? Because like the night kill is ehhhh, I personally have really hard time trying to get stuff out of that, feels like I can go way overboard and just tunnel myself thinking, so I have just left you on that island waiting for you to come back.
    I am more confused by this wording if anything, what does it mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#599)
    To create some $%#! to get reactions to then be able to tunnel? It isnt too farfetched tbh. If she thinks that this can lead somewhere, then they are going to take it. Though P#464 makes them a lot townier for calling themselves conf biasing.
    I was thinking this kind of backtrack is something mafia probs wouldn't do?

    Something feels a little formal about P#658

    P#786/P#792 feel like passive comments

    P#818/P#825 is an odd progression. P#827 is just kind of swapping to someone who you think is also paried with Val. Dunno why you wouldn't just stay on there.

    I don't get the comment on P#931 like, why would you not want to interact with those who feel good to you?

    Penguin feels so different today. I still don't get the suspicion for them like day 2 and prior but I kinda do today get kinda meh vibes, though maybe the whole P#942 thing is a towny ping because my thoughts wouldn't typically to just ping niphredil like that about a wagon.
  49. Day 3#983

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed Oh never mind I see it I could definitely see...

    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishSkumbag (#974)


    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#965)
    If this is a tie maybe I am wrong about SS and is just Penguin?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#966)
    And then we add Wisdom as mafia?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#967)
    Nvm, I thought Eod is now

    I will answer at your question Cape


    i believe Kuro thought EoD was 13 min ago. Im trying to figure out if that makes him town. I think it makes it more likely

    i also think Cape's posting today has been better

    I'll vote to selfpress whoever ofc, but I think pengu is my preferred vote rn.
    Oh never mind I see it

    I could definitely see this as possibly town indicative which does not inspire hope lol
  50. Day 3#982

    Thread: Return of the Ultralight

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    Completed Meanwhile, less then 20 minutes ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#979)
    And yes, I thought Eod was 20 mins ago
    Meanwhile, less then 20 minutes ago

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo (#969)
    About P#314 if Swedish is mafia one mate is in the bottom 4.
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