Type: Posts; User: mhsmith0
Let’s see how those lazy smith reads played out
Very cool game, was fun to skim along and watch. Congrats wolves!
The correct answer is to figure out who you personally dislike more and then “discover” a reason to modkill them. Problem solved
Wow what a game!!!!!
Just an incredible effort from mid and late game wolf team to turn it around. Amazing WIM and effectiveness.
RIP spec chat boq tunnel
We shall miss you
I refuse to believe modbot. The team was jack and Tim trolling the thread for an easy f3
Gg was fun to watch
INCREDIBLE town performance, fantastic job to all involved!
It’s like duplicate bridge but a poker version. Tentatively /in
My work computer now blocks MU and I find this to be PROFOUNDLY annoying, so I guess welcome to slank city on all sorts of things until/unless I make a laptop+monitor setup for a non work computer and put it next to my monitors on my home desk. So like, not never, but not in the immediate future (in related news, the earliest Strange Journey has any chance of starting is now 7/1 lol)
I can't really speak for what everyone else in the hood would have done, as you saw from the hood link, it was mostly me yakking and like half the group hadn't checked in at all yet
My orders intention was for me to use ranged weapon on the two zombiedogs in B13, and since my understanding was that dogs were 3 hp, AND that the special zombies (which they were i believe) did NOT get saving throws, I could realistically expect to kill at least one of the two. I had 2 shots per round, 2 damage each, accuracy -1, so we're talking about around 50% to hit both shots and get free first strike kill
(oh right, the OTHER reason i figured they had 3 hp was that one of them got sniped and, by flavor, died to a single sniper shot previously)
The bigger issue for that group was the stack of crimsonheads, so probably that's where sniper support was best focused
The secondary issue was the fact that you hid despite us chatting a while about how important it was to search instead of hide. That, plus the fact that your group trusted jaleb for no particular reason that I could understand, gave me a pretty skeptical attitude towards your plans in general (i.e. i'd go along if it was in my interest, but i wasn't especially inclined to think it was a good idea just b/c you would have suggested it) (also, fwiw, with a search score of 4, you were around a coin flip to have seen ninjacow hiding on move 5 if you had chosen to search, though i would not have known that at the time, since I'd been under the mistaken impression the bugs were all carrying hide scores of like 10+) (among other things, shadow/dya and I had search of 10-11 and MISSED most of our search checks against them hiding, AND chris had search of 10 and, as far as we knew, missed all of HIS search checks [when in fact what actually happened was that on turn 8 he just didn't bother to take the free snipe of the hidden bug ] )
(also, you outright expecting an ambush of hidden bugs, factoring that into your plan, and then actively choosing not to search, in lieu of a hide bonus that went away the second you unhid, i.e. a completely wasted move, would not have given me sunshiney feelings - though i guess the free stuff we got helped to overcome my feelings there )
But the CRITICAL issue with the plan about what you and chox were to do was... Jaleb. Assuming that I ended up spilling the beans about him (or at least giving you a "well MAYBE he's a serial killer" compromise bit), a much more sensible order set would have been to write a conditional order to attack anyone on the hospital grounds who attacks a bunch of other people there (I presume that it would be realistic to submit orders to pizza that got to the point of it, even if there needed to be some back and forths)
ALSO, if you're sniping anyone, you're not doing antyhing else, so you'd have been unable to help against hidden bugs (though I do agree that some clause of helping us would um... help )
I also don't think it's any kind of realistic to get a group of villagers already in combat to yolo snipe gigante. My presumption is they would be taking some meaningful damage, and fighting gigante isn't QUITE a death sentence, but it's super dangerous even at full health, much less at "low health due to zombie combat". I think I'd have argued hard against that one, and I seriously doubt any of the new crew would have been willing to take that kind of risk for the sake of someone they just met.
you can now fly AND get superpowers. Unfortunately you die when exposed to any green object.
I wish for a working copy of the PS5 along with working copies of all games that will be released for it later this year.
You enjoy your eggnog, but the alcohol inside of it forces to...
GO TO SLEEP!!!
I wish for a donut
You inherit an equal share of MU’s operating debt, and declare bankruptcy.
I wish for more wishes.
MU gains self awareness and, thanks to its immortality, enslaves the human race, FOREVER
I wish for my predictions to never be wrong.
As far as I’m concerned, a miller who doesn’t claim d1 deserves whatever he gets.
On top of THAT structure, you’re introducing two different objectively useful scum counters to the cop - godfather obviously can win a game by itself AND can be used to POE down a cop role, AND can be used to bury a fake green check on a buddy. Roleblocker can further POE down the cop role, as you can block any “might be a cop, might be mislynchable” role and then just see where the chips fall (plus a decent # of vanillagers who think they’re being seery might yolo guess Roleblocked, which can really help to narrow down the cop POE).
If I balance that by making the most generous interpretation of vengeful (kills whoever killed h8m at night, cannot be roleblocked, as opposed to just a “picks a target to kill if lynched or shot”), it’s still substantially wolfsided by MU norms, especially because that only brings game to evens, which dampens the usefulness of the shot (kills a wolf but does NOT buy an extra mislynch)
It might still be balanced for your community, but only if your community’s meta is extremely town friendly imo.
For better and worse, setup balance tends to WILDLY vary by community. The MS wiki is a starting point, but you may well have different (or MUCH different) balancing norms than MS. Sorry there isn’t necessarily an easy cut and dry answer here.
What is your favorite internet meme?
Oh you ain’t seen nothing yet on the archiving stuff, what I shared is just like step one, after that is actually COMMENTING on things, which will be a meaningful time commitment I’d guess.
I actually don’t recall the details of the plan anymore, but I’ll go and relook at stuff. MAYBE this weekend if I’m not stuck working, but we shall see...
Step 1: Rand Wolf
Step 2: Realize the playerlist is actually competent
Step 3: Die a little more inside
Some more thoughts on various pieces of the article (spoilering b/c lengthy)
Most “scum slips” are actually town slips, because town is incautious about speculating and thinking out loud, and if you’re looking for “slips” it’s easy to see it as TMI when in fact it is not
What I *DO* think can be AI is when people give out town credit for things that aren’t legitimately town-indicative but SEEM like they’re town-indicative when you’re not putting actual thought into it. Surface-level villagery-looking stuff, for instance, where an actual villager might be paranoid about it being faked, but a wolf just blazes through and says it’s town because they’re not actually trying to think about alignment.
Note that this can run counter to the fact that some people have lazy or crappy tells that they lean on when they’re solving for real, and it can sometimes be difficult to tease out “oh this person is just being lol” from “this person has TMI”
Perhaps paradoxically, this sort of thing can be a bit easier to wrap your head around when dealing with a relatively competent player, because you can more easily get into the space of “well If they were town, they just wouldn’t be doing this”
beruru on aisle five
The joke here is that beru has a tendency to town read the people who push them and wolf read the people defending them
I don’t think beru is alone in this
I sort of think this is a valid tell for some people, but think it belongs more in the meta category of understanding the process a particular player is likely ot have as town and whether that fits behavior here. I’m skeptical it’s meaningfully AI over an entire population
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Thanks for the post!
(btw i expect to give an update REASONABLY soon, it's just that events somewhat outside my control have limited the time I've put into design work over the last month. I'm kind of hoping May is better on that end)
I've clinched advancement to the knockout stage, and it looks like (once my final group stage match finishes, but i THINK I've all but clinched the W in that last one) that I'll have a coin flip for seeding, so I'll either go up against one of the top few players on the site and probably get my $%#! kicked, or go up against someone who's probably around my level and hopefully gut it out. glglme
/spec (idk if there will be a rail chat discord for this one or not)
You had only one guess, so I'll give you another for free
Member Odin, Zeus, Ares, Dionysus, Heimdall, Quetzalcoatl
Non member Mercedes, sobek, Maui, Hercules, Jupiter, Jove, Janus, Allah, Buddha, Hermes, Alpheius, Artemis, Apollo, Moya, Goya
Member Odin, Zeus, Ares, Dionysus, Heimdall, Quetzalcoatl
Non member Mercedes, sobek, Maui, Hercules, Jupiter, Jove, Janus, Allah, Buddha, Hermes, Alpheius, Artemis, Apollo
Also, for the record: lynching outside of the pretty clear dipole in a pre-lylo world was a fairly obviously terrible move. ESPECIALLY since, in a lengthy "we're lynching exactly one of these two" situation, you force both of them to make public stances, can MAYBE find some spew among the wolf if you lynch correctly, and just as importantly, you force that wolf's partner to make a hard choice between bussing and pushing exactly one specific villager who they KNOW is town.
This is very basic werewolf strategy that basically the entire town botched on d3.
I think that backups only can inherit from their own alignment, though I'm not 100% on that.
I think the TLDR is it's wolfsided but playable. But that's just my $0.02.