but at least i'm gonna vote the cw lol
Type: Posts; User: niphredil
i mean i do actually think he's the most likely wolf here anyways and if he doesn't get here and start being towny i'll probably just vote him at some point lol
p#44 well at least ominoire started with that "people are not allowed to townread me" thing very early
i think it's towny?
especially since they're keeping it up until that late
don't think wolf would want to act in a way that might just scare townies out ot townreading them lol
i also do still think ominoire's attitude with the mech talk early was towny
also i kind of feel like there's been a lot of fluff too
and some of the talk about pony specifically felt somewhat useless "pony is just being pony and nai" read, which i dont really see why they said it
am not really a fan of that, but also reading their other posts i think that's probably just a playstyle thing
p#79 exists and i'm inclined to think it's towny, because actually reading into sentence structure that deeply probably is something that a wolf doesn't think of doing
also i have no concentration
p#334 feels like a towny post
kinda because of openly just admitting you dont think the person you vote is flipping wolf
which is something a wolf doesn't often do
also liked p#346 just because it's so random tinfoil that i don't really see a wolf coming up with that there
not jessings, not uzay, probably not ominoire either tho i havent really paid much attention to them lately and should probably reread them at some point
i do think risiinq is towny
not 100% sure on that read but i dont really want to vote her atm
so i think i'd just get back to voting clippety clop?
even tho i don't really feel like it's a slot i want to kill today
but still thinking they probably do have more scum equity than the other people?
(also i kinda was thinking it might be schweppes/clippety at some point and i think that still would work quite well, so lmao XD)
and kinda yes just bc you have more posts than other poe people XD
(also thought naked voting you is funny bc jessings just talked about us as w/w XD)
was rereading risiinq
i do like their early comments on mech talk, p#24 p#26 mainly, with that attitude of "lets just ignore the mechanics and play the game", which seems like a towny attitude (and wolf might find it easier to just keep going with the mech talk for longer, rather than that "lets just ignore the mecahnics")
this is obviously not very strong read, but slightly good look anyways
also p#53 (and a few other posts which are similar) i thought was slightly good bc there's not really any attempt to make her reads look more than what they are
also there were some other posts that looked slightly towny but im too lazy to actually talk about them all bc its not that strong reads lmao
i think mainly wrt risiinq i just like their overall activity + willingness to just talk with people that much, none of their posts seem forced in any way really, and it kinda just looks like they're posting whatever they're thinking without really worrying much about how that comes off
so yeah this is still a townlean
i do think uzay's posts have been good now
have also somewhat liked moth's latest posts but don't want to clear him for that yet anyway, but i dont want to kill them now at the very least
jessings seems quite towny also. i mean, i actually dont like her cases on either of me/uzay (both felt like the actual reasoning for that read is kinda too weak considering how much time she spent talking about the read/the confidence she has on it), but outside of that i think her posting is very towny
so if i do keep my earlier townreads on risiinq/ominoire, that basically means the poe for me is just schweppes/sam/wes
which. i'm not feeling very good about, just because only scumreading the literal lowest posters in the game is usually not correct lmao
at the time i had most of the players in this game as just flat-out null, so i felt that the townread on uzay was still good enough, even if it wasn't something that i would really have that much confidence in some other situations. but at the time when i have literally no reads on most of the other people, and do have some kind of read (even if it was kinda weak) on uzay, i'll actually just keep that read
i just wanted to know what he was thinking there
bc i thought it would do something that i answered to him
like. if he thinks that i'm wolfy bc "unexplained townread on me is easy for wolf", and then i explained that it was not about that but i had actual reasons to think he's town
i thought it would change something, bc that now proved his original reasoning for scumreading me to be wrong
didnt really even care that much about what his read on me is, just. wanted to hear what it was that he actually was thinking there
(and there was also the world where sam flips chosen and then that "fake read to get a person killed" might become alignment read)
also kinda just. i'm still feeling somewhat lost with this game, and just wanted to start some kind of discussion and was kinda hoping it would lead to something actually alignment-indicative things
(which it didn't do, but whatever)
this is. kind of funny. just bc you seem to assume that i'm doing things bc of what other people have said about me
and in fact i dont even remember what are those things other people have said about me XD
and that post was also somewhat just "i'm kind of lost with this game atm so i'm just posting things and hoping something happens" rather than me actually believing that the thing i posted is important
in this case i would guess its something along the lines of "i thought the entrance was null at the beginning, but after seeing how he never came back to posting despite promising to do so, i now think that makes him wolfy"
i dont see any reasons to assume that that read is faked
its very possible for town to just reread things and scumread posts they have not previously paid any attention to
also i dont think schweppes "not trying to fit in" means literally anything for his alignment
i thought schweppes was wolfier than sam tbh
i'm. honestly not very sure about any of the reads i have atm
now it's not unexplained anymore
why does that not change anything? is the issue really in the "unexplained" part, or you just in general think people should not be townreading you?
also, about the pony's annoyance thing, i know you talked why wolf wouldnt fake annoyance (i disagree with that but whatever), but is there a reason why pony cant be a wolf and be genuinely annoyed at you?
also do you think posting that many times in a row counts as "doesn't do well under pressure"? or what do you mean with that pressure talk?
tho can explain it now if that helps lmao. basically the reason i townread you was just your early game posting. the way you started the game with talking about mechanics that much seemed to be just someone who believes they have a good idea of what is the optimal play and wants to go by it.
i mean i do disagree with the idea of "mech talk is good" (i just hate mech talk lmao), but the way you talked about it looked like you genuinely believe that is the best way to start the game, and wanted to actually make sure the game would go the way you think is the best. which seemed towny.
i don't know if i'm explaining this very well but whatever lmao
if we're talking about uzay here
i'm mostly townreading them bc there was some single points that i thought were towny
p#118 i thought was kind of good, but i cannot really explain why lmao
i also liked p#119 for some reason lol
just that kind of honesty with "yeah, thats all from me now", not even any attempt of trying to look more productive etc, just admitting they have nothing more to say
also liked the last sentence of p#121. which i guess should actually be completely NAI since its just talking about playstyle but. idk. it felt towny lol
and i liked p#136 just because their mindset seemed to be "i'd like to wait to see what others have to say but if everyone waits for others we never get any kind of content, so i'll just talk about this"
which seems like a good/towny mindset to have here
i don't really have much opinions on most of uzay's actual content tbh
atm i dont have much opinion on anyone's actual content and so i'm actually happy enough with townreading uzay atm, at least its better read than what i have with most other people lmao
like, it maybe didnt give much game-related info, but the reason it existed was because people wanted to understand what others were saying
which... people understanding each other seems pretty important to me?
but sure let's wagon them, why not XD
##Vote clippety clop
i actually dont even know how you read that if you think it was about tmi
uzay has some posts that feel slightly towny, but nothing that i actually am confident in atm
i have a gut scumread on clippety clop, but tbh i have no idea why
also earlier i kinda just thought that despite the gut scumread that slot might be town just bc they had similar kind of reads on jessings/uzay (they thought jessings early posts were wolfy, and uzay's towny), even tho they had a lot higher confidence in those reads than what i did
tho after having seen their reasonings on those reads, i just disagree with like all of that, so im not sure if "similar kind of reads" should matter much here
(fwiw my read on jessings is just null atm)
i just think her posts are a bit out of place for town
like, it just doesnt seem very natural for town to be having that detailed thoughts that early into the game?
i mean, like just p#28 (and also the explanation in p#56)
which just seems a bit out of place. like, game just started, there is only a few posts, and not much has happened
starting to already question people's thought processes, and also that explanation seems like. way too deep of a thought for town to have there naturally? (i feel usually town only has gut reads or smth that early in the game)
there isn't really anything wrong with what they're saying, just, feels very out of place to start reading that deeply into something pretty irrelevant
another weird post was p#73 with that "i made a 180 extremely quick", "im on rollercoaster"
is way too self-aware
i mean i dont generally think self-awareness is wolfy, but it feels a bit out of place in there?
like, yeah, you changed your read, so what, its still very early and literally no one cares about if your read changed
why does it need to be pointed out that your read changed and kind of justified like that?
tho now im also thinking that they might just be town for that
bc as wolf whos worried about "read change looks sus" they could just. not change the read
but if theyre town who legitimately changed their read and is also worried that it might look suspicious, it might come off as that
ominoire is probably town
jessings early posts were weird
mostly bc it looks like "trying too hard"
well if you want to be hanged, that can be arranged :P
i still think he's been towny enough
i mean i'm not really very confident in that townread anymore and think there actually can be some worlds in which he's wolf
but i do think he's been towny enough i don't want him dead now
and all those are answered if you just read my posts
if you had other questions, then sorry but you post so much random fluff that i dont really feel like trying to find those questions from your iso
where i'm at currently is that pav is town but i also have absolutely no confidence in hitting a wolf outside of pav, and i think if we kill a town who's not pav our situation is just going to be a lot worse
so not very motivated to look for cfds or anything even tho i think this is flipping town
enzique is probably even worse kill than pav
he's not really any more likely to flip wolf, and also no matter what he flips we'd just be in the same situation with pav tomorrow
at least after pav townflip people would start re-evaluating something
enzique flip does nothing
euler town? i mean i still think he's a lot better than in his wolfgame but its also possible it was just off game or smth and i dont really know eulers towngame so cant compare to that
but even then, i think he's had towny posts in this game and i would expect his posting to be somewhat more careful if he randed wolf here (i mean he clearly thinks he couldnt wolf well in this game, and so he most likely wouldn't be posting this much etc if he was wolf)
i still think mist is town. this read is still not much more than "i feel she's playing like a villager" and i probably shouldn't have as high confidence in this as i do but i just think she's town lol
zander probably town. been having some paranoia about some of his posts but overall i feel like all he does seems very genuine and towny. like the way he's been screaming about how "resolve wagons" is the correct way, then at random points starts doubting that and goes to try to actually read me and pav, and then gets back to the "we have to resolve wagons!!!". just. overall seems very towny
sett maybe town? i think his posting feels quite good on the last few pages or so. i kinda think that him complaining about gamestate sounds genuine and the way he's afterwards been trying to actually do some solving etc seems good
habana maybe town. i have liked some of his posts. i actually townread him having said he doesn't know what's going on lol, and the way he's been solving seems genuine
aphelios posting today is good enough i think. cant really explain why i think its towny but idk it just feels towny lol
the first thing i townread them for yesterday was mainly that when they and amai first started talking about league of legends, then aphelios at some points tried to stop that league of legends discussion with "spf is saying interesting things lets concentrate on that now"
vul i still think has had towny posts, but also i don't really like his reads lol. he's literally just pushing the easiest targets in pavowski/enzique and hasn't really even been trying to look elsewhere
but also i don't know if that would be what he'd do as wolf here. so ugh.
pav might be town just because of gamestate things, his own posts are just pretty whatever. not bad though still imo
enzique. has done nothing. i mean i do think his way of "doing nothing" is more likely town, bc wolves doing nothing are usually more like "doing nothing but try to pretend you're still doing something" and enzique is not trying to pretend he's doing anything. it's not a read that i'd really believe in that much, but it's whatever
ultra i literally just have no read on. think his posting yesterday was just whatever. no posts today.
amai has some towny posts and also has some wolfy posts, and most of what he's done wrt reads is to push the easy targets and be wrong, so like, i don't really see much reasons to think he's town here
sun's posting is just meh. i also still am kinda bothered by how everyone's just ignoring sun. like, how is that a better iso than like pavowski/enzique, and if its not better why is everyone only voting in pav/enzi
i was actually thinking it might be amai/sun w/w at some point but also there's that amai's "sun is town but lets eliminate him anyway because when he flips town we can just kill all who voted him", which would be very weird if w/w
and i literally forgot sohijk exists
meh i was mostly writing that to see if it'd help me to get some better idea of what's happening in this game, and it really didn't
i guess we just have a very different perspective then
bc i dont really see the pav wagon as towny lol, but think most people who voted volt are townies
like the volt wagon was me+habana+euler+twice
(and then sun tzu voted there at the last second, i dont have read on sun but its whatever, he's not the reason volt got wagoned anyway)
which. well i know for sure is at least two townies, have quite confident townread on euler atm, and think habana's also been towny
which i do think makes pav town far more likely, because it seems to have been just townies who were trying to make wagons outside of pav
enzique admitted to be intentionally aiming to be rand, so i think that assuming he wouldnt be more villagery as town is quite obvious
pav just. idk i just get the vibe that he's not really the kind of player who is really villagery as town lol
or like he's posted smth like "why are people posting this much" a few times etc, so i think he's really just somewhat struggling with getting into the game, and "a person struggling to get into the game" is not the type of player who looks villagery even if they're actually town imo
i've actually liked sett's posting now
if pavowski is wolf, what do you think happened that eod? where are the rest of the wolves?
actually, who do you think could be wolves outside of pav/enzique in any case? those seem to be the only wolfreads you have rn
also, do you believe either of pavowski/enzique are players who would be any more villagery than this, if they were town?
i mean i'm rn kinda thinking everyone who's been posting is somewhat towny
but none of the low-posters feels like a wolf either
so idk really what to do here
does anyone really have any read on sun tzu
because i don't think he's been much different from pavowski/enzique content-wise
in that all are low-posters and the iso isnt very impressive (tho also imo isnt wolfy either)
but still it seems to be pav/enzi who keep getting scumread and everyone just ignores sun