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Regarding ads: my thoughts are that I'm strongly against having ads that are on each page, as I imagine that would just get annoying/frustrating for players - especially in all EoDs/mashes/turbos!!! That being said, if we wanted to isolate it to one page, where people could visit only if they want to give us ad money... that would be more workable, being not detrimental to the overall functioning of the site!!

That being said, I always very much appreciate everyone who comes out to support MU whenever Makaze has posted about the site needing money, special shoutout to that generous donor!!! Personally I think it's probably fine if we stick with the Patreon/keep ads as a very last-resort option, though it would probably be helpful if we brought it up more often; maybe once every few months or so, rather than whenever there's an emergency!

Also I do like the site being protected overall!! While we don't have financial info or whatever, it's still important to be able to guarantee security to users; I can confirm for a fact that some people in other communities instantly had a more negative view of MU, upon learning we were hacked!!!

Not a great look when trying to host a cross-community championship/invite people to the site, in short!!

Heads up mentor game will be postponed to August/September/October or so!! Less than half the mentors are available at the moment unfortunately, and I don't have time to organize it again until later!

Sorry for the inconvenience; will be back on this in a few months!!

Originally Posted by AXIS 1679569988 (#63)

Jeez, year went fast didn't it.

Yeah I know right?! It's always wonderful seeing the representatives trickle in though, just the start of all the hype!!!!

Also just makes me hyped to see them play!!!

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1679228365 (#43)

'Hey neat we've made a new mafia community. What should we call it?'

Originally Posted by lucy 1679211106 (#41)

mafia community

How about Mafia Games instead?

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1679041579 (#29)

Where do I sign up? I'll be representing Grey Dog Software Forums again.

Hyped to see you again!! I'll pm you!

Originally Posted by Kuti plz 1678835505 (#25)

Hi can I nominate @Taffy and @Rem for flavor writing.

Fresh blood in the usual line up of flavor writers.

Taffy has been a hit so far in 2023 with weekend at taffy and taffy birthday cake games.

If either are interested in writing flavour for a champs game, feel free to reach out to me about it!!

Got a practice game up!! Ideally for representatives/backups/soon-to-be representatives, check it out here: Automated: Adapt 6 - Mafia Championship S10 Practice Game 1 (mafiauniverse.com)

Updates on the setup that were left out/misworded:

Town flips will have their full role revealed, while Mafia flips will only have their alignment revealed.

LYLOs are an exception to the majority delay, during which majority will be enabled immediately.

Originally Posted by WizKvothe 1678624836 (#6)

Can I suggest a community where you can send an invite? I don't know if this community is already in your list or not but I thought I will share this anyway....

https://discord.gg/XahDVzzk

Feel free to, though that one's already on the list!!

I'll also be posting MU's nomination thread in a week or two, for a bit of a change!!

Schedule post reservations hype!!

(Note: this means that invites will be starting to go out soon, with not all of them having gone out yet!)

Okay actually closing the window now bye!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal 1672723873 (#2321)

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1672722895 (#2320)

Howdy.

Hey :wave:

I was gonna try reading back but honestly just didn't want to.


How was your new years?

@Trustworthy Liberal Curious as to if you'll have any time to read back a little, over hte next few months!!! Even if it's just 1 ISO and notthe entire game!!!

Would be interested in stuff like your current read on Cuth, and also what was your read on DkKoba at EoD?

I guess I am fine with the wagon beng there, don't really have much strong thoughts against it; would rather not have a single runaway wagon for today though, or at least most of today anyway!!

That's all from me for now; was going to get into Michelle since you started that Garden Gnome, but squeezed in just the Ampharos there!!!!

Don't expect me until June/July, I almost certainly won't have time to open the thread; see you then and stay hyped!!!!!

@Ampharos Come play, it's day 3 already!!! Would be nice to have some fresher other perspectives!!!

For instance, any updated thoughts on Cuthalion? I wrote a bit more about him a few posts up, if you want to take a look!!

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1670035089 (#2262)

the reason i want the pool i presented to be shot in and why i put amph as town is also because i see them being set up as a mislim by the people im very much most suspicious of pushing an agenda and feel their read on amph is disingenuous

If you could elaborate on why Ampharos is town for day 1 specifically and beam the thuoghts over to me, that would be appreciated!!!

On one hand can see it, but also just don't really have much to go off of there currently, is my conclusion from that ISO!!

Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal 1670036366 (#2303)

Fair enough

##Vote Trustworthy Liberal

Well, that was easy!!!

I don't really have much thoughts on Trustworthy Liberal's EoD at the moment, although I may still be stuck on Cuth's; there is one thing, though...

@Cuthalion I'm curious as to what if any reads you feel best and/or strongest about? I feel like a lot of your reads have been really uncertain, and while I get that that's a thing, not sure how much is really behind most of those!!!

Would also be appreciated if yuo could elaborate/dig deeper on the thoughts you expressed here, given the flip:

Originally Posted by Cuthalion 1670036170 (#2291)

Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal 1670036031 (#2286)

Originally Posted by Cuthalion 1670035904 (#2281)

i wanna look hard at sheep if igno flips v

i think there's a fairly hard align that can be gotten between sheep/amy but i'm not sure if it's together or not and i don't have the time to dig deeper

This feels a

Is there more to the first thought?

Feels distracted alittle here

yes there is

sheep kinda comes into eod and not fence-sits but something along those lines

like accepts them as focus and centralizes them?

Also if you have time to maybe carve out some time here, even if it's only 2-3 times before EoD, that would be appreciated; would love to try and coordinate something if possible!!!

So I was just going to ISO Cuth's EoD posts but there's less than 100 overall, so a few overall thoughts:

Cuth did do an earlier full ISO of ignoramus at P#2074, makes a bit more sense as to why he wouldn't have still been there at EoD I think? I do feel like the thoughts expressed here feel somewhat natural though/don't seem that TMI-y, I guess? Still, would have to see how that went given how EoD was... Would be very curious as to if anyone else has thoughts on this post in particular, given that we should be able to better discern if it has TMI or not since we now have TMI!!!

I also only just realized ignoramus didn't post at all yesterday, which... hmm, not sure if it's still worht ISOing them!!

Okay so in P#2259, I'm guessing Cuth probably just forgot about his earlier read on ignoramus? Sort of want to call that towny because you'd be more self-conscious as mafia about making sure your reads align with what you'd said previously, but also with the nature of this game Cuth could have anticipated that better than in a normal game... still, feels like the former probably makes more sense, for it to be towny? Especially when at that point in the game, ignoramus was clearly dying and practically nothing would have resulted in a different death, which means that it would have been easy for Cuth to just grab free town points by going in and lightly defending ignoramus there!!

In P#2266, his read on me makes me feel better about my previous point, because his read is that I'm towny for defending someone that flippedtown at EoD; him not taking the opportunity to do exactly that as mafia at this EoD feels towny!!! Granted, I could be overthinking this a little!

P#2295 was what I referred to in an earlier post, where Cuth mentions he was ISOing alphabetically but then changed his mind to do it randomly based on other things!! Reminds me vaguely of some recent-ish game where one of the mafia started ISOing alphabetically and then gave up - I feel like while this is similar, the logic for reading it is the opposite? Basically, just going down alphabetically is a "trying to get into the game without really solving" type of thing, but the shift into basically just going with what he wanted indicates more of a solving mindset?

After all that, I feel like I'ved typed out more of a townread than I actually feel, where I'd put him down as a vague townread that I'm concerned about misreading at the moment!!

Hence, would really love it if anyone has further thoughts here to share and discuss here, would be really helpful!!!! Especially if you suspect him, looking at you Wesmaster!!!!

I do also have a few further concerns, will get to it after this...

Originally Posted by sheepsaysmeep 1676904712 (#2335)

yes

##Vote Ampharos

@sheepsaysmeep Want to elaborate on this any? Has ignoramus flipping town affected this read in any way?

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1676093389 (#2332)

Originally Posted by Garden Gnome 1675357286 (#2331)

Let's have a chat about where we stand as town!
Scummies, feel free to do your chatting in scumchat.
That way, we know that, if you're not talking with us here, you're a scummie.
Oh, and we need someone who is good at talking a lot and at reading people to step up and be a town leader because the loss of DkKoba was difficult for us. We need someone who can do what he did.

Alright Gnome it looks like the town doesn't have the motivation. You're gonna have to that town leader spot it seems.

@Wesmaster160 For what it's worth I think you could do it too!!! Doesn't have to be just one person, and you've been active previously enough that you'd be solid!!!!

Where are your thoughts at now/any updated thoughts on Cuth? Especially considering his EoD, as well!!

Originally Posted by Shad 1672837009 (#2325)

We got Animal Crossing for Christmas. See you in 2024.

@Shad Congrats on acquiring the Animal Crossing!!! I heard it was named the best game of 2022 somewhere, is it living up to that?

Would also be curious as to hear your thoughts in light of ignoramus flipping town, any updated reads, and especially who you want to kill!!!

Thinking maybe I should try to stick to ISOing just one person, every few weeks or something; make it feel less like I need to look at everything right now immediately!!!!

Right, probably won't read much into what GeneralHankerchief said as he'd have been all like "my info would be outdated at that point since you all would have more info than I do further in the futre" and stuff, but will take a look regaredless!!

Other things: wanted to ISO Cuth/TL at EoD, possibly other people as well but those two stood out a bit!!!

ignoramus in general/more importantly the posts around them, particularly probably the earlier half of yesterday before the wagon really solidifier? The latter probably more for later!!

Ampharos probably too, did see the votes there though I haven't read SoD yet!!!

I really don't have time, but I also really want to at least look at everyone else briefly while I can; will see how much time I have left after the other stuff!!

Okay, caught up on EoD!!! Pulled a few quotes that caught my eye:

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1670019322 (#2234)

Don't touch these unless theres good evidence they are mafia(i.e. they try to save scum in a way that seems disingenuine and not towny, etc.) :

Shad
Frog
Arapocalypse
WerewolfHunter
Wesmaster160
Garden Gnome
sheepsaysmeep
______
Personally think these are town, am asking to legacy shield them at least a day:

lendunistus
Ampharos
Visorslash -> just because this is at the bottom right above igno does not mean i think this is scum if igno flips town btw - I think an igno town flip requires a deeper look into these 3. I simply currently have the least confidence that this slot is town - however I do have confidence it is town.


Myt working solve, please make this the pool of players to kill tomorrow, regardless of igno flip. Do not try to hunt for scum elsewhere please until after you at least shoot once more into this pool tomorrow - I am confident that if igno is scum than the other 3 are v likely scum:

ignoramus
Michelle
Cuthalion
Trustworthy Liberal



These are all ordered within tiers.

Didn't quite catch my eye but I *did* check the flips beforehand; I want to also take a look at whoever died night 1 regardless, just in case!!!

Bit ??? as to the bolded team-wise though, because saying "regardless of flip" seems to indicate that they're individual suspicions unrelated to each other, but also when you said if ignoramus flips v that you think they're teamed, then the team factors into it? I guess technically the two aren't mutually exclusive; my main point is that it would be useful to know how much of it is team-related specifically, given the current flip!!!

I want to make sure I cover the other stuff though, so will revisit this more in depth later; just wanted to get some initial thoughts out first!!!

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1670033025 (#2243)

i townread ampharos based off d1 btw

Just pulling this out to ensure it's revisited, regarding the read/Ampharos day 1!!

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1670035978 (#2282)

I showed myself in Semis perfectly capable of creating perfect towncores, across several games this year able to solve 100% by the end of N1, if not outright creating a full perfect solve.

I am intoxicated right now so uhh yeah.



but honestly cuth's catchup is.. like notably null? like gut wise it makes me *want* to townread the slot bc of the fact he is making analysis - however the way the analysis is dripping in is *jagged* in nature like cuth is looking at a post, and only thinking about how he would feel about it individually. like yknow, really decent kind of maf play kinda way. probably worth looking into what cuth' reasonable scumrange is wrt presenting reads next dayphase - I am willing to eat crow due to him putting in the effort to do *something* however it is weird to pop in EoD and do this and not try to solve what the top wagon is, and ultimately the goal comes off as performative - that is to say cuth, I'd like to know why just now you're really into doing what you're doing.

Now this is really interesting because I was with you very much in the bolded; but also I feel like there's a bit of the opposite there? With the additional knowledge of retrospect, Ignormus was always flipping town at EoD yesterday, so what would mafia do there? Arguably I'd say it's weird to focus on other people at that point and not talk more about the person who's dying as that's basically free real estate... also another post that I wanted to pull out, though a bit more minor!!

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1670036050 (#2287)

I think absolutely that if igno flips town - you need to look straight at my bottom 3 of michelle + cuth + TL and how they treated Igno slot this game.

i regret I dont have the mental capacity right now to cross reference D1 with this current EOD because it feels juicy info wise compared to the rest of the dayphase (well I think iirc there are some slots i did get to solve like wes earlier which was great)

but yeet.

On one hand yes, though on the other hand... maybe I'll save that thought for later though; I do want to do a bunch of rereading at some point, around ignoramus/other people!!!

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1670036405 (#2305)

happy holidays and happy new years folks.

if we're lucky - I will be here next day and can reeval.

if i die, well, I have plenty of thoughts out there and having me confirmed town will be good.


i highly suggest doing a strong SoD conversation push -> doing one midyear, like idk, around champs or something when people are mostly paying attention to on site, and then again EOD. I feel that we kinda skipped the middle of the day here and it was detrimental to us. Make the most of your time if possible.

Day 4 should be a major review day too.

Good luck.

Bit of an oops on the strong SoD, how about a stronger mid-day if I can wrangle it? You did get a rather amused chuckle out of me at the champs comment though, as that's literally the opposite if when I personally will want to be playing this!!!!

That being said, I'm aiming to trry and get more out of the June/July/August bits; should be easier but no promises!!

I didn't intentionally go in to only pull out DkKoba quotes, but there you go I guess; rest in peace and everything!!!

Yet again, it's been a while; hello!!!

Apologies for the delay again, especially as I doubt I'll have time to be around much until June at the earliest, but we'll see what we can do tonight at least!

/sub

Don't have time to get sucked into something for a week+ currently!!

I agree with this; based on what the current compensation is, it doesn't really feel like there is that much point to it, when giving mafia an entire factional kill as compensation tends to be extremely rare, and if you're doing that then you're most likely not running an automated game anyway!!!!

I'm not sure if this one has ever actually been used?

Anyways, think expanding options while specifically keeping in mind other usages is solid anyway, with how rare compensation is needed!!

Originally Posted by Boquise 1676892212 (#448)

Help baudib is stealing my joke i stole

Can confirm!!!! More people need to feast their eyes on this (from my graveyard):

Noting for the record that I'm in as a day 2+ sub; won't be around for day 1/first half of night, but I'll be online before SoD 2 if needed!!

C4 as well, yes!!!!

Thank you to dya for the reveal and Hally for the rest of the awards stuff!!!!! Good stuff!!!

Originally Posted by 2022 Awards 1676862196 (#395)

The winner is one of our fabulous mods

Congrats to ThePretender for becoming a mod!!!!

YOLOSWAG!!!!!!

Congrats iaafr - can do more than one animal!!!!!

Congrats Apoc, though!!!!

I mean the wolves basically received PERFECT FAKECLAIMS LIKE INVESTIGATIVE WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO SKIP PAST 4 DAYPHASES

Originally Posted by 2022 Awards 1676861562 (#348)

The winner is as inevitable as the meme

Wiggles randing wolf!

@wiggles1993 Can't believe you randed mafia again!!!!

Originally Posted by 2022 Awards 1676861413 (#342)

The winner is...RED LIGHT

Right?!?!?!

This cat is always the most difficult to vote for!!!!

Dang, gif games robbed!!!!!

(Congrats JOAT 10er!!)

Originally Posted by katze 1676861046 (#319)

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse 1676860944 (#314)

Congrats again, alexa/neopest!!!!

Originally Posted by 2022 Awards 1676860996 (#316)

The winner is: Pokémaf Generation 1 Mash

Congrats again @alexa and @neopest

tmi

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse 1676860944 (#314)

Congrats again, alexa/neopest!!!!

See the above!!!

Congrats again, alexa/neopest!!!!

Pizza hype!!!

Yessss Garden Gnome let's go!!!!!!!! Always a lovely cohost!!!!

Congrats alexa/neopest!!!!!

Sigma Klim let's goooo!!!!!!