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  1. To clarify: it is perfectly fine to continue...

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#9)
    can we please get a better way to do private chats then
    To clarify: it is perfectly fine to continue using Discord for your mafia chats/neighbourhoods/masonrys/whatnot!!!

    This is simply saying don't put them all in one server if you want to make the participants for a private chat secret, such as the players in a neighbourhood, secret; you'd need to make multiple servers for that!!
  2. That was a different issue; the issue here is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyx (#3)
    ...as far as i'm aware this was brought up to an admin like a month ago

    was there just not an announcement about it
    That was a different issue; the issue here is having multiple private chats in the same server, that is!!


    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#5)
    I brought it up to a few moderators months ago, but before, the plug in didn't allow people to see who the channels were assigned to, so I was ignored I guess.

    Now you can see a lot more with that plug in.
    Apologies if that was missed, which it seems to have been!! Also yes, seeing the actual participants in permission-locked channels is the main issue that is problematic!!!!!
  3. This is mainly regarding using multiple channels...

    This is mainly regarding using multiple channels in the same server for private chats, where you don't want the participants to be public!!!!!

    It's still perfectly fine to use Discord itself, for mafia chats; just use separate servers, that's all!!!

    Personally, I'll be testing for methods to circumvent this, but it'll probably be messy; will update if anything comes of it!!
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    Myself and tenzhi are in, on an account!!!

    Myself and @tenzhi are in, on an account!!!
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    Thread: Halloween Mash 2

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    Experimental PsychoKang Would you be interested in playing?...

    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoKang (#137)
    sub
    @PsychoKang Would you be interested in playing? Got a slot that just opened up!!!
  6. #138

    Thread: Halloween Mash 2

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    Experimental :(

    Quote Originally Posted by min (#136)
    I have to out now I'm sorry I've got stuff on my plate now
  7. #133

    Thread: Halloween Mash 2

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    Experimental And we're full at 60!!!! If you're still...

    And we're full at 60!!!! If you're still interested but didn't make it here in time, feel free to sign up as a reserve/sub!!

    For those who have signed up, feel free to let us know if you're down for a n0 event (on Halloween!) and I'll be checking back in with everyone closer to rand, estimated to be on the coming Saturday!!!
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    Sticky: FaitAccompli (Outlier) has been permanently...

    FaitAccompli (Outlier) has been permanently banned for various personal insults and inappropriate comments breaking the CoC, after having been previously warned to cease doing so and persisting with said unacceptable behaviour!
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    Game Thread Cuthalion Just over a month until EoD hype let's...

    @Cuthalion Just over a month until EoD hype let's go!!!!!!!!!!

    If you have time, can you give a few shotgun takes on a couple people? Most people don't have particularly long ISOs; for instance, if you did ignoramus plus a person or two, that in and of itself could easily be under 50 posts!!!
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    Game Thread Alright, thanks for checking back in at least!!!!...

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#915)
    1. Sheep: town, reason being (from p#22-p#112) relaxed vibe while still making reads and stuff (albeit pretty minimal)
    P#271 I only read a teeny bit but majority weren't doing much (or doing anything At All) so his effort to make this raises his town equity
    Like
    He's one of the first ones to do it, if not The first to do it
    So I feel like it's more town-indicative, especially given his still fairly relaxed tone
    Gonna be assuming for this part but I think a mafia/non-town who was this relaxed wouldn't make much reads/progress until everyone else did so


    2. Lendunistus: so obvious in his "I don't give a damn. I do Not want to play" attitude I think he might just be town?? Not as townie as Sheep but still town


    3. Visor: is him and Hankerchief talking to each other so much non w/w indicative? Because to me it is and I doubt y'all will be able to change that for a while mnitwerk:
    Also saw a bit of GH and his conversations (p#311) and if anything, probably GH/Visor w/t?? Feels too much like "I Shall Take Advantage Of Him Not Doing Much And Pocket Him Through Reads :evil:" out of all three, least townie


    Just my luck the RNG picker I used went for majority lower posters

    Anyway : peace_out : for like. Another year
    Or until I die first
    Whichever goes first
    Alright, thanks for checking back in at least!!!!

    Though thought on an actual mafia read or something, beyond WerewolfHunter, would also be cool!!!!
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    Yes, you can utilize any private means of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune Cookie (#277)
    Are the hydra heads allowed to discuss the game outside of thread?
    Yes, you can utilize any private means of communication that you like, between the two of you!!!!
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    Game Thread ignoramus My apologies, sometimes too many words...

    @ignoramus My apologies, sometimes too many words overloads posts and it gets cut off, you'll have to repost that!!!
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    Completed A hellbusser, perhaps?

    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#3706)
    Wow that dude really bussed his entire team for an easy F3





    Wonder who his mentor was
    A hellbusser, perhaps?
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    Thread: Battle Royale

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    Strategy Dobby, you're pinging the wrong person again......

    Dobby, you're pinging the wrong person again...
  15. Pregame#2

    Thread: SDM #204 - Tracktober

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    Completed SDM #204 - Tracktober: Game Information! This is...

    SDM #204 - Tracktober: Game Information!

    This is an automated game of Mafia.


    Setup - 9 Players

    x2 Mafia Goon
    x6 Vanilla Town
    x1 Town Tracker

    Example Role PMs
    • Majority will be in effect starting Day 2. Day 2 onward will end the instant a majority is reached.
    • Town wins when there are no threats to Town remaining.
    • Mafia factions win when they achieve Parity and there are no other evil factions remaining at any time.
    • Votes are automatically locked in when the Town must eliminate correctly.
    • Sleep is enabled. Vote for Sleep to forgo an elimination that Day.
    • Mafia factional kills are mandatory. Mafia must submit a factional kill each night, or a player outside their faction will be chosen at random.
    • Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
    • Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction.
    • Mafia may communicate at any time.
    • Tied votes will result in a player being eliminated at random from among the tied players.

    Phase Lengths

    Days are 15 minutes in length. Nights are 5 minutes in length.

    Players

    @Hoboloser
    @Ivyeo
    @matt_
    @ognjen05
    @pingers
    @SadNixon
    @Saxjon
    @starkrush
    @TomRiddle

    FAQ

    Are you unsure about how actions are processed or how roles interact with each other? Then read more here:

    ORDER OF OPERATIONS

    Night actions are processed in this order:

    Strongman kills
    Roleblocks
    Jails
    Doctors
    Bodyguards
    Kills
    Investigations
    Backups

    When an action was submitted during the night will never matter when the actions are processed.

    ACTION FEEDBACK

    These are the results you will get when you submit certain actions.

    Non-investigative roles when they submit an action (they also receive this if they are roleblocked):

    Your action on Player A was received.
    Investigative actions return results even if the target dies on the same night.

    Actions that count as visits are counted as visits even if the actor dies on the same night.

    Investigative roles (Tracker, Cop, etc.) when roleblocked:

    Your action on Player B failed.
    Trackers when tracking a person that didn't visit anyone (or if they targeted a Ninja):

    Player C did not visit anyone.
    Watchers when watching a person that wasn't visited by anyone (or only visited by a Ninja):

    Player D was not visited by anyone.
    Alignment Cop when investigating a town-aligned player (or a Godfather):

    Player E is Town
    Watcher when watching a person that was visited by multiple people:

    Player F was visited by Player G, Player H, Player I
    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

    How do I submit my action?
    Use the form below the game thread. If your role has a night action, the form will only be visible during night phases. It's not possible to submit actions in advance of the night phase.

    What does it mean if the Mafia Host says that night kills are assigned?
    In games with this setting turned on, the member of the mafia team that made the most recent night kill submission will be the one assigned to the kill, which means that the kill can be blocked if a Town Roleblocker or Town Jailkeeper target the mafia player in question. Similarly, the kill can be tracked and watched by Town Trackers and Town Watchers. If this setting isn't turned on, then it doesn't matter who the last person to submit the mafia kill is, as the kill is unblockable and untrackable in this case.

    Where do I find example role PM's?
    This thread contains example role PM's for all roles currently supported by the Modbot as well as information on the various modifiers. Here you will find the answers to a lot of questions not covered in this FAQ section.

    Which roles can self-target?
    Only Watchers are able to use their ability on themselves at night. This means that Doctors or Jailkeepers aren't able to protect themselves, for example.

    Which roles are not able to target the same players on consecutive nights?
    Doctors, Jailkeepers, and Roleblockers are not allowed to target the same player twice in a row. Everyone else is, including Bodyguards. Note that this non-consecutive restriction still holds true even if one of these three roles were blocked the night before when targeting the person that they're attempting to target again.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A and Jailkeeper B or Roleblocker A and Roleblocker B target each other (and are not targetted by other blockers)?
    In the case of Jailkeepers, they will block and protect each other. In the case of Roleblockers, they also block each other. This means that the two players are trackable to each other that night by Trackers and Watchers. It also means that if one of them is mafia and happens to simultaneously be the one submitting the factional kill that night in a game with assigned kills, then this kill is blocked. This same principle applies to longer loops. I.e. in a A > B > C > D > A loop, everyone is blocked.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Roleblocker B who targets Jailkeeper A?
    Jailkeeper A will be blocked in this scenario. Refer to the order of operations: Roleblocks process before jails.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Roleblocker B who targets Player C?
    As stated above, roleblocks process before jails, so Roleblocker B will successfully block Player C. I.e. Jailkeeper A will fail to block Roleblocker B, but will still protect Roleblocker B.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Jailkeeper B and Jailkeeper B targets Jailkeeper C (who isn't targeting any of the former two)?
    In this case, Jailkeeper A would prevent Jailkeeper B's block from occuring, meaning that Jailkeeper C's action is not blocked.

    If an X-Shot role is blocked while using a shot, do they lose that shot forever?
    Yes. A 1-shot Vigilante being blocked while attempting to kill someone will not have their shot refunded.

    If someone with a Strongman modifier kills Player A who is protected by Bodyguard B, who dies?
    Player A will die, and Bodyguard B will survive.

    Can a mafia team choose not to kill anyone during a night?
    The host can determine this using the Mafia Factional Kill setting. Kills can be mandatory, optional, or disabled altogether.

    The default is No. The mafia factional kill is compulsory. This is done in order to avoid deadlocked games where the town keeps no eliminating and the mafia refuses to submit a kill. If the game has assigned kills, it will be randomized which member of the team is carrying out the kill.

    If there is only one mafia member left in a game without assigned kills, can the mafia factional kill then be blocked and/or tracked?
    No.

    Can the mafia submit a kill for one of their own members?
    No.

    If I kill someone, does their night action, if they have one, still succeed?
    Yes, killing someone doesn't prevent them from performing their night action (unless they investigated someone, in which case they will not receive a report). Refer to the order of operations: All kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.

    Can individual night actions be proxied on mafia teams?
    No. If the mafia team has a Mafia Roleblocker, for example, and they want to use this role's action, then the player occupying that slot must submit the action themselves.

    If a Lover is shot during the night, while the other Lover is protected that night, does the other Lover still die?
    Yes. It's not possible to prevent a Lover from dying of love sickness.

    If a Bodyguard protects Lover A, while Lover B is shot during that same night, what happens?
    A dies of love sickness and Bodyguard lives.

    If there are any Innocent Childs in the game, are these confirmed in the thread right when the game begins?
    No. Innocent Childs are able to decide themselves when or if they wish to have the Modbot confirm their role and alignment in the thread. Note that this is exclusively a day action and that it can take up to one minute for the Modbot to process the action.

    What results are Alignment Cops, Full Cops and Role Cops given if they investigate a Godfather or a Miller?
    Alignment Cops are told "Town" for Godfathers and "Mafia" for Millers. Full Cops are told "Vanilla Town" for Godfathers and "Mafia Goon" for Millers. Role Cops are told "Godfather" for Godfathers and "Miller" for Millers.

    Can Role Cops tell the difference between a Vanilla Town and Mafia Goon?
    No. They are told "Vanilla" when investigating either of these two roles.

    If I roleblock someone with a Bulletproof Vest, will that nullify the effect of the vest?
    No. Bulletproof Vests are passive modifiers that cannot be blocked from working.

    If I roleblock Masons, Neighbors or Lovers with out of thread communication privileges, can I prevent them from talking at night?
    No.

    If I roleblock a Godfather, will they still be revealed as being town-aligned to Alignment Cops and Full Cops that night?
    Yes.

    Are you wondering about how to vote, submit night actions or multi-isolate players? Read about this and more here:

    HOW TO VOTE

    Our forum votes for someone by using the vote tags: [V]Thingyman[/V]. Preview:

    ##Vote Thingyman

    Make sure that you spell out the full, correct name. Abbreviations or misspelled names will not be registered by the Modbot.

    To unvote, use the tags: [UNV][/UNV] . When unvoting you do not need to enter the name of the person that you are unvoting. Preview:

    ##Unvote

    HOW TO VOTE BY PROXY / ANONYMOUSLY


    Select your vote choice and click submit using the form at the bottom of the thread.

    Big Image: https://i.imgur.com/hBJ7arR.gif
    Click to load this image


    VOTING BUTTONS


    You can also quickly vote for someone by clicking on the box with a checkmark icon, which will bring up an alphabetized dropdown containing the names of living players:



    This will insert [V][/V] tags with the name of the player you selected in the dropdown, perfect every time.

    Click the empty checkbox button to insert [UNV][/UNV].
    HOW TO SUBMIT NIGHT ACTIONS

    If you have a night action, simply submit this at night by scrolling to the bottom of the game thread. Here you will find a night action form like this:



    Click the dropdown and select the player whom you wish to use your night action on. You can change it as many times as you wish before the deadline expires.
    HOW TO REQUEST A VOTECOUNT

    Votecounts will appear automatically at various intervals, but you can also call up votecounts yourself by following these steps:

    First, you need to apply to join "Mafia Game Hosts" under Permission Groups.

    Second, once your request has been approved, you will be able to call up votecounts by simply pushing the "Post Votecount" button in the top right corner of any game thread that you'd like an updated votecount for.

    OTHER SPECIAL FEATURES

    VIEWING VOTE HISTORY

    There are three ways to access the vote history for any game.

    1. Click on the "Vote History" button in the top right corner of the game thread:

    2. Click on the "View Vote History" link, which accompanies all votecounts:

    3. Click on Modbot in the top forum menu. This will give you a list of ongoing and completed games:



      Next, simply click on "Vote History" to view all votes for that game.

    Following any of the above three steps will bring you to an overview like this one:



    Click on a Voter's username to view all of the votes by their slot.

    Click on a Target's username to view all of the votes for their slot.

    ISOLATING A PLAYER'S POSTS

    If you wish to read a player's posts in isolation, simply click on "ISO" in the top right corner of one of that player's posts in the relevant thread as illustrated here:



    Alternatively, you can access a player's posts in isolation by clicking on the number next to "Replies:" in the forum lobby.



    Doing so will pull up a window listing the post counts for everyone who has posted in that thread. You access someone's posts in isolation by simply clicking on the number next to "Posts:" for that person.



    The ISO view itself has Quote and Multi-Quote buttons inside it, which will make it very easy to quickly quote a lot of a player's posts for analysis or commentary:


    MULTI-ISOLATING

    If you wish to read not just one player's posts, but you want to ISO multiple players, then click the "Multi ISO" button to the left of "Game Tools" and select the players in question as shown here:


    MULTI-QUOTING WHILE THREAD IS LOCKED

    Note that you can multi-quote posts from even locked game threads. This is useful for when you wish to reread the game and do work during night phases.

    After quoting the relevant posts, you simply open a different, opened thread and press "Go Advanced". Then add the quotes to your post by clicking the prompt below the post area as shown here:



    Now, of course you can't post your work in the game thread while the thread is locked, but you can copy paste and save your work to a local file or the cloud and have it ready to post the very next day phase (if you're still alive, that is).

    BOOKMARKS

    Whenever you open a game thread, you are able to bookmark posts. This is for many players an important tool for keeping track of and remembering vital pieces of information, reads, claims etc.

    Also, note that these bookmarks are saved to your user account, meaning that it eliminates the trouble associated with keeping notes between different computers/devices.

    If you want to bookmark a post, you simply scroll to the post that you want to bookmark and press "Set Bookmark" as shown here:



    This will call up 5 different colored icons (Blue, Red, Yellow, Green, and Black) on the right side of the post in question. You can click any of these icons, which will then prompt you to include a note for the post.

    If you don't want to include a note, you don't have to - just leave it blank. The color coding in itself can be a valuable tool. Maybe you want to use Red bookmarks for posts that you find suspicious, Green bookmarks for posts that you find townie, Black bookmarks for posts containing claims, or whatever system you can think of that will be helpful to you.



    Once this is done, you have now successfully bookmarked a post with a certain color and maybe even a note. If you wish to remove the bookmark again, click on "Unset Bookmark".

    How do I access bookmarks?

    There are two ways to access your bookmarks.
    1. Inside a game thread, you can access the bookmarks for that specific game by simply right clicking on the "Bookmark" button and opening the link.

      This will bring you to a separate page that is automatically filtered to only show bookmarks from the game thread that you accessed the page from.
    2. You can also access your bookmarks by going to Features in the site's top menu:



      This will bring you to a page where no bookmarks are shown by default. However, you have several filtering options.

      You can filter by Game, by Player and by Color - and all of them at once if you so wish.

      Here's an example of filtering by only red bookmarks in one specific game:



    If you want to be taken directly to one of your bookmarked posts, you just click the post number.

    How do I quote bookmarks?

    You can also multi-quote bookmarked posts by clicking the little "+" button seen above on the far right side of each bookmark.

    Once you have multi-quoted all the bookmarked posts that you want to quote, you will then have to go to the game thread in which you wish to quote the bookmarked posts.

    Here you have two ways of quoting the posts.

    1. Click on "Reply With Quote" on another post as shown here:



      You will then probably want to delete the last post quoted in the reply box, but otherwise you should be good to go.
    2. Or you can do the more smooth option and click the "Reply To Thread" button at the top and bottom of the game thread - as shown here:



      By doing this you will open up a reply box containing only your multi-quoted bookmarked posts.
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    Completed SDM #204 - Tracktober

    Tracker 9er - 2 mafia goons, 1 town tracker, 6 vanilla town


    1. Hoboloser
    2. pingers
    3. Saxjon
    4. matt_
    5. SadNixon
    6. Ivyeo
    7. TomRiddle
    8. starkrush
    9. ognjen05
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    Game Thread Michelle It's been over a week, thoughts on...

    @Michelle It's been over a week, thoughts on catching up hype?
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    Game Thread Ignoramus ISO, without comments, for easy...

    Ignoramus ISO, without comments, for easy reference:

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#16)
    Hi all!!!
    Hyped for my first (extremely) long game!!
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#22)
    O no!! The mind-meld tell!!
    ##Vote Frog
    (it's been a while!! How have you been?)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#23)
    ##Vote Frog

    Frogs outted mafia. I'm so far out of my mafia range no town would ever vote me here.
    ##Vote Wesmaster160
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#26)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#25)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#22)
    O no!! The mind-meld tell!!
    ##Vote Frog
    (it's been a while!! How have you been?)
    Treasonous homie!

    I drank on New Years after not drinking for a year (new years resolution last year) and I forgot how much fun that can be. Unfortunately it only took 5 beers to land me a hangover the next day and now I've renounced drinking for the year once again. Almost like cycle of mafia. Glad to be playing with you homie, please no more treason. Lettuce power village into the cosmos and beyond!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#23)
    ##Vote Frog

    Frogs outted mafia. I'm so far out of my mafia range no town would ever vote me here.
    Nani? You poke doggo??? So you have chosen death.



    Legit sweating bullets with two votes on m3 lol

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#23)
    ##Vote Frog

    Frogs outted mafia. I'm so far out of my mafia range no town would ever vote me here.
    ##Vote Wesmaster160
    I knew you were a loyal tunnel homie.

    Dear ignoramus,

    Plz accept my pocket? Patiently awaiting your reply.

    Yours,
    Frog
    Not yet, dear homie, but I shall think of it.
    Yours truly,
    ignoramus
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#27)
    ##Unvote Wesmaster160
    I keep to my word.
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#31)
    Wheres the AtE? It aint complete w/o it LMAO
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#34)
    Quote Originally Posted by sheepsaysmeep (#33)
    ##Vote ignoramus
    Good idea!
    ##Vote ignoramus
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#40)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#35)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#26)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#25)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#22)
    O no!! The mind-meld tell!!
    ##Vote Frog
    (it's been a while!! How have you been?)
    Treasonous homie!

    I drank on New Years after not drinking for a year (new years resolution last year) and I forgot how much fun that can be. Unfortunately it only took 5 beers to land me a hangover the next day and now I've renounced drinking for the year once again. Almost like cycle of mafia. Glad to be playing with you homie, please no more treason. Lettuce power village into the cosmos and beyond!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#23)
    ##Vote Frog

    Frogs outted mafia. I'm so far out of my mafia range no town would ever vote me here.
    Nani? You poke doggo??? So you have chosen death.



    Legit sweating bullets with two votes on m3 lol

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#24)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#23)
    ##Vote Frog

    Frogs outted mafia. I'm so far out of my mafia range no town would ever vote me here.
    ##Vote Wesmaster160
    I knew you were a loyal tunnel homie.

    Dear ignoramus,

    Plz accept my pocket? Patiently awaiting your reply.

    Yours,
    Frog

    Not yet, dear homie, but I shall think of it.
    Yours truly,
    ignoramus
    Dear ignoramus,

    The kingdom is enduring a warm Winter, and I hope the crops get enough rain this Spring. Perhaps at the Spring harvest we can reconvene and discuss our alliance over the much beloved Parsnip festival. Looking forward to more social times.

    Yours,
    Frog

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#28)
    Chill vibes

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#29)
    see you next month
    it jumps with the enthusiasm of a dead frog

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#30)
    ##Vote Marshal

    it jumps with the enthusiasm of an dead aliven't frog


    Quote Originally Posted by sheepsaysmeep (#32)
    frog ignoramus wolves for feeling a need to be around doing things

    back in 6 months to explain why this is wolfy coherently

    back in 2 years to solve the rest of the game
    Solid take but no dice. Can't speak for igno but I'd rather encourage thread involvement than not; good, bad, ugly, as long as it's not out of hand thread flood. Also, I'm actively trying to pocket ignoramus here so your vote on them is poo of the foulest order.
    I look forward to the Parsnip Festival, and I hope your crops will do well this year, and all the years to come.
    Yours truly,
    ignoramus
    if your goal was to pocket me this much its working :cantlook:


    Quote Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal (#36)
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    I would also like to experiment in how I can show who I am interacting with.

    Examples being like formating in the V3 method to show who i am talking to
    in each post and if you are okay with that feel free to let me know what
    character you would like to represent you.

    Add Monokuma
    This would be a loose example of talking to someone.
    Decided to use Monokuma as an example cause why not.
    That's really all for now let me know when you can.
    Ö
    I wonder what birdlike creature exists in Danganronpa series :0c
    If none, perhaps Monodam from Killing Harmony?
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#46)
    Quote Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal (#44)
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    To Monocrow/ignoramus
    Well maybe not conventional there is a Monocrow from a fan game SDAR 2.
    That could be used this to represent you otherwise Monodam could work
    just as well up to you.

    To Kokichi/Wes
    Not to forget you Wes got you over here as well hope you enjoy the
    format as well trying to make it look better each time I work on it.
    To where i am happy with it through multiple versions then clean it up.

    I’ll take this part to show text like this is more thoughts to myself that
    I feel like sharing. Like am enjoying setting all this up as it is a second
    reason to do so on top of personal projects.
    Monocrow works fine! :0
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#50)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#49)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#48)
    +^
    Also, talking in accents when you're putting on a show / lying is a thing, maybe, probably if you squint hard enough it makes sense.

    ++^
    Fixed
    1. What's "++^" mean?
    2. If it's accent, don't you think it should be completely NAI?
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#52)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#51)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#50)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#49)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#48)
    +^
    Also, talking in accents when you're putting on a show / lying is a thing, maybe, probably if you squint hard enough it makes sense.

    ++^
    Fixed
    1. What's "++^" mean?
    2. If it's accent, don't you think it should be completely NAI?
    1. It symbolizes addendum and above
    2. Similar to a therapist puppet as a tool to talk when it's otherwise difficult. I'm saying accents can a mechanism to cope with discomfort. In this case, the discomfort I've theorized has to do with randing wolf and making an early thread entrance = discomfort.
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#54)
    i
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#59)
    Looks like we're all gonna end up using that format sooner or later XD
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#67)
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad (#65)
    Listening to Green Day is pretty wolfy tbh
    Guess i gotta listen to green day now huh
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#70)
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad (#69)
    I had a split second moment just now where I panicked thinking I signed up for a game somewhere and forgot to show up

    oh you guys
    Welcome to town-core
    How may I help you?
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#89)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#86)
    either way

    ##Vote Arapocalypse

    is mafia, primarily because she's infinitely less Hype!!!! for this game than you'd expect, and she set a 500 postcap for herself which indicates that she expects activity

    she's wolf who's letting the game stay dead
    let's eliminate her
    It's not Halloween yet, though
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#100)
    Koba!!! Hi!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#164)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#162)
    hej.... i won a towngame recently...any1 wanna see???
    :eyes:
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#166)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#165)
    >.>
    <.<
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#368)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#326)
    @Ampharos Wouldn't playing mafia be faster?
    @Cuthalion Happy birthday, come play!!!!
    @Frog Got an updated take on Wesmaster?
    @Garden Gnome Who do you most suspect/want to vote, at the moment?
    @ignoramus Come play!! What's your current read on DkKoba?
    @lendunistus What's your strongest read, outside of sort by postcount?
    @Michelle Any hot takes from reading back yet?
    @Shad It's been over a month, please give catchup takes!!
    @Trustworthy Liberal Are you planning to continue the particular manner of posting you introduced at SoD? Speaking of which, I've now completed all the DR games, has been a blast!!!!
    @WerewolfHunter It's definitely gotten quite a bit more serious by now, got any takes to match?

    Typing out these pings, it's occurred to me that it would be entertaining to make a bingo card!!!!! Or to delegate it to someone else: I'll give a free townpoint to anyone who makes one!!!
    Hello!!!
    Last time I read (which was about 3? months ago but my concept of time is as reliable as my WiFi [it isn't]) I had Koba as town
    Then again, I have a hard time reading their tone, just like I have a hard time reading yours
    IIRC all of WWH's posts involved some excuses, and I remember reading a few of her wolf-games back then and she does the excuses thing too
    But I'm better at reading spew so I'm not confident at all
    Might come back in June or July then disappear for the entirety of senior high glgl
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#369)
    ##Vote WerewolfHunter
    Bye!
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#546)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#543)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#369)
    ##Vote WerewolfHunter
    Bye!
    @ignoramus

    I summon thee

    Haven't really seen you make plays since Jan / Feb
    Huh whuh
    Oh hi!
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#547)
    Reads-list #1 (July 7, 2021; UTC+8)
    Okay I will admit I haven’t been here in so long I think I may have forgotten how to play

    Amy: has Amy played any other longest mafia games before? Because if no, I feel like her coming back after about a month when most people would probably be screwing about is kinda townie

    (to anyone who's played with her a lot before: does she make spurts of effort then dip as town more often or as mafia more often?) p#118’s vibes are pretty good imo, didn’t think/expect Amy to type like this (I thought she’d be more calm? or less rambly) but I think her rambling shows she's actively Thinking About Stuff while typing so I’d say that makes her pretty townie

    P#127 feels different from p#118 so either there’s some w/w going on (I personally don’t think so at the time of writing this but I still need to read more, especially for GH) or Amy wasn’t really Thinking About Stuff while writing this
    Probably means she’s more confident on this set of reads or something

    Her spurt (is that what you call it? English is pain) of posts from p#118-p#129 feels pretty good, I think
    P#155 she didn’t follow up to that but I guess it could be ignored

    Probably projecting here but I think p#503 is townie, reason being forgetting her reason for voting Koba and her saying their posting since her last post was townie feels townie to me
    I tend to forget more often as town because as mafia I got people to rely on if I forget anything
    Her turnaround (is that the correct term?) in p#505 also feels townie like
    It feels natural to me

    There’s another spurt of activity that doesn’t feel as townie as before but still pretty okay

    I’d say she’s town


    GH: all of his posts feel okay (I’ve played with him once as w/w and tbh? I can’t tell the difference someone please help me)

    P#135 feels a teeny bit unaligned
    There’s quite a lot of hedge there that makes me think there’s a chance they’re w/w and the "sorry Amy” is kinda :sus: but given that Amy wasn’t in danger whatsoever there’s also a chance GH is just kinda unsure about this

    Okay I reread it again a few times and this makes me think that if GH flips red, Amy’s most likely next

    P#195 might be veiled TMI for pocketing purposes but no flips yet so idk

    I have no idea about this dude



    Cuth: m
    Town on the basis that he just Doesn’t Care

    I feel like drawing and sleeping again ciao
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#551)
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad (#548)
    That Cuth take feels so weird to me contrasted to the effort you put into the other two. How much have you played with him?
    I don't really recall
    Maybe once or twice? I think I was subbed out or killed pretty early on tho so

    Quote Originally Posted by Shad (#549)
    As to Amy, I think she's posting fine and my gut says villager but I don't know how much of that is there are a lot of people doing nothing that makes everyone actually participating feel decent. Pending a proper reread closer to EoD, there hasn't been a specific moment leaping out to me as > rand v the way I've felt about DK Frog or to a lesser extent GH.To answer your question though, I played in a week long phases game with her once and remember it being fairly clean. At least, her team swept and she wasn't semi-frozen the way I've seen in mashes.
    Fairly clean as in it's not irregular or anything/no random quick posting then leaving?

    For Koba, I just read them town off of vibes
    Frog is a maybe town? I still remember his blatant pocketing attempt he did before (I think it was to me but idk) and I think he wouldn't do it that obviously if mafia/wolf
    Kinda similar to Koba where both of them feel like they believe what they're saying but Koba > Frog

    GH is GH I need a lot of help to solve him (and a lot of help to get over my paranoia too)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#550)
    @ignoramustry again please sussy baka

    no


    I was going to write actual thoughts here, but no thoughts head empty, so...

    @ignoramus have you got any time to spend on the game currently?

    I sort of want to ask some more pointed questions, but I suspect the attempt would prove futile given the amount of time which has since occurred; that being said, could you pick three people and give thoughts on them in general?
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    Game Thread Fun fact: I just found out that anchor bias is an...

    Fun fact: I just found out that anchor bias is an actual term, which basically describes the irrationally high weighting people can put towards the first piece of information they learn... and puts into words a lot of the issues I tend to have in mafia!!!!!

    Case in point, Wesmaster: maybe the solution is to just take a few months to reset a read!!

    (No, I'm not actually serious about that point!!)

    Regardless, I get that that's what re-evaluation is all about in terms of reads, but also am not great at that and need to work on it!!!

    Anyways it's wild that I've never heard of this before (or maybe I did but since forgot), but I'm hyped and will be back later tonight; really want to talk about ignoramus and stuff, I just keep getting sidetracked by various things!!!!
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    They weren't a thing last year, too!!!! :p

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti (#215)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#1)
    Anonymous hydras will not be allowed
    thank god

    no more of those baby back uknowats hiding

    gh/newcomb yall back for another ride?
    They weren't a thing last year, too!!!!
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    Manual For what it's worth, while reputation is a...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiveran (#36)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hally (#35)
    i don’t think this game not filling really has much to do with your reputation as a host or lack thereof - even a well known host would probably have trouble filling this i think

    unfortunately a game of this size with 24 hour nights and nonstandard death mechanics that’s also multiball, has recruitment, etc is probably going to be a tough sell with our playerbase, which is used to the standard mash formula of 12/12 with ITA’s, etc

    i think a lot of people look at this game and get scared of signing up when they’ve never played anything like it before and don’t really know what to expect, so they don’t want to risk sinking so much time into such a large game without knowing what the payoff will be

    i’m not really sure what might help you be able to run games like this but maybe others have some ideas?
    Oof...perhaps I should have clarified that Faction Leaders only recruit a set number of players Night 0, and do not grow in a Cult-esque manner over the course of the game

    I've always been $%#! at explaining things, sadly

    Other than building that skill, I think I just need to design and run a bunch of simple games that slowly walk MUers through my whole bag of tricks :shrug:
    For what it's worth, while reputation is a factor, I would say it's more about knowing the audience you're trying to attract and working with that!! While it's cool if you want to do something more unconventional, it's useful to have at least some standard-ish elements which people will for sure enjoy, whereas the combination of having multiple unfamiliar, more risky features can be a little offputting!!

    Also, advertisement plays a major role in people signing up, regardless of reputation!! Active recruitment of players should definitely not be underestimated, as lots of people don't check signups on a regular basis and only play once invited!!!


    I could expand on this and a few other points such as specific mechanical details/game attractiveness to players/flavour/knowing the audience/overall hype in signups, but I don't want to drop an unsolicited essay here; feel free to dm me if you would like elaboration, however!!!
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    Thread: SDM #197 - TrackerKeith!

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    Completed SDM #197 - TrackerKeith!: Game Information! This...

    SDM #197 - TrackerKeith!: Game Information!

    This is an automated game of Mafia.


    Setup - 9 Players

    x2 Mafia Goon
    x6 Vanilla Town
    x1 Town Tracker

    Example Role PMs
    • Majority will be in effect starting Day 2. Day 2 onward will end the instant a majority is reached.
    • Town wins when there are no threats to Town remaining.
    • Mafia factions win when they achieve Parity and there are no other evil factions remaining at any time.
    • Votes are automatically locked in when the Town must eliminate correctly.
    • Sleep is enabled. Vote for Sleep to forgo an elimination that Day.
    • Mafia factional kills are mandatory. Mafia must submit a factional kill each night, or a player outside their faction will be chosen at random.
    • Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
    • Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction.
    • Mafia may communicate at any time.
    • Tied votes will result in a player being eliminated at random from among the tied players.

    Phase Lengths

    Days are 15 minutes in length. Nights are 5 minutes in length.

    Players

    @Aldo
    @Athena Cykes
    @FreeChilly
    @Hades6201
    @Hoboloser
    @Kajot
    @ManuMafia
    @OkenMafiaAccount
    @SophiaBach

    FAQ

    Are you unsure about how actions are processed or how roles interact with each other? Then read more here:

    ORDER OF OPERATIONS

    Night actions are processed in this order:

    Strongman kills
    Roleblocks
    Jails
    Doctors
    Bodyguards
    Kills
    Investigations
    Backups

    When an action was submitted during the night will never matter when the actions are processed.

    ACTION FEEDBACK

    These are the results you will get when you submit certain actions.

    Non-investigative roles when they submit an action (they also receive this if they are roleblocked):

    Your action on Player A was received.
    Investigative actions return results even if the target dies on the same night.

    Actions that count as visits are counted as visits even if the actor dies on the same night.

    Investigative roles (Tracker, Cop, etc.) when roleblocked:

    Your action on Player B failed.
    Trackers when tracking a person that didn't visit anyone (or if they targeted a Ninja):

    Player C did not visit anyone.
    Watchers when watching a person that wasn't visited by anyone (or only visited by a Ninja):

    Player D was not visited by anyone.
    Alignment Cop when investigating a town-aligned player (or a Godfather):

    Player E is Town
    Watcher when watching a person that was visited by multiple people:

    Player F was visited by Player G, Player H, Player I
    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

    How do I submit my action?
    Use the form below the game thread. If your role has a night action, the form will only be visible during night phases. It's not possible to submit actions in advance of the night phase.

    What does it mean if the Mafia Host says that night kills are assigned?
    In games with this setting turned on, the member of the mafia team that made the most recent night kill submission will be the one assigned to the kill, which means that the kill can be blocked if a Town Roleblocker or Town Jailkeeper target the mafia player in question. Similarly, the kill can be tracked and watched by Town Trackers and Town Watchers. If this setting isn't turned on, then it doesn't matter who the last person to submit the mafia kill is, as the kill is unblockable and untrackable in this case.

    Where do I find example role PM's?
    This thread contains example role PM's for all roles currently supported by the Modbot as well as information on the various modifiers. Here you will find the answers to a lot of questions not covered in this FAQ section.

    Which roles can self-target?
    Only Watchers are able to use their ability on themselves at night. This means that Doctors or Jailkeepers aren't able to protect themselves, for example.

    Which roles are not able to target the same players on consecutive nights?
    Doctors, Jailkeepers, and Roleblockers are not allowed to target the same player twice in a row. Everyone else is, including Bodyguards. Note that this non-consecutive restriction still holds true even if one of these three roles were blocked the night before when targeting the person that they're attempting to target again.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A and Jailkeeper B or Roleblocker A and Roleblocker B target each other (and are not targetted by other blockers)?
    In the case of Jailkeepers, they will block and protect each other. In the case of Roleblockers, they also block each other. This means that the two players are trackable to each other that night by Trackers and Watchers. It also means that if one of them is mafia and happens to simultaneously be the one submitting the factional kill that night in a game with assigned kills, then this kill is blocked. This same principle applies to longer loops. I.e. in a A > B > C > D > A loop, everyone is blocked.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Roleblocker B who targets Jailkeeper A?
    Jailkeeper A will be blocked in this scenario. Refer to the order of operations: Roleblocks process before jails.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Roleblocker B who targets Player C?
    As stated above, roleblocks process before jails, so Roleblocker B will successfully block Player C. I.e. Jailkeeper A will fail to block Roleblocker B, but will still protect Roleblocker B.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Jailkeeper B and Jailkeeper B targets Jailkeeper C (who isn't targeting any of the former two)?
    In this case, Jailkeeper A would prevent Jailkeeper B's block from occuring, meaning that Jailkeeper C's action is not blocked.

    If an X-Shot role is blocked while using a shot, do they lose that shot forever?
    Yes. A 1-shot Vigilante being blocked while attempting to kill someone will not have their shot refunded.

    If someone with a Strongman modifier kills Player A who is protected by Bodyguard B, who dies?
    Player A will die, and Bodyguard B will survive.

    Can a mafia team choose not to kill anyone during a night?
    The host can determine this using the Mafia Factional Kill setting. Kills can be mandatory, optional, or disabled altogether.

    The default is No. The mafia factional kill is compulsory. This is done in order to avoid deadlocked games where the town keeps no eliminating and the mafia refuses to submit a kill. If the game has assigned kills, it will be randomized which member of the team is carrying out the kill.

    If there is only one mafia member left in a game without assigned kills, can the mafia factional kill then be blocked and/or tracked?
    No.

    Can the mafia submit a kill for one of their own members?
    No.

    If I kill someone, does their night action, if they have one, still succeed?
    Yes, killing someone doesn't prevent them from performing their night action (unless they investigated someone, in which case they will not receive a report). Refer to the order of operations: All kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.

    Can individual night actions be proxied on mafia teams?
    No. If the mafia team has a Mafia Roleblocker, for example, and they want to use this role's action, then the player occupying that slot must submit the action themselves.

    If a Lover is shot during the night, while the other Lover is protected that night, does the other Lover still die?
    Yes. It's not possible to prevent a Lover from dying of love sickness.

    If a Bodyguard protects Lover A, while Lover B is shot during that same night, what happens?
    A dies of love sickness and Bodyguard lives.

    If there are any Innocent Childs in the game, are these confirmed in the thread right when the game begins?
    No. Innocent Childs are able to decide themselves when or if they wish to have the Modbot confirm their role and alignment in the thread. Note that this is exclusively a day action and that it can take up to one minute for the Modbot to process the action.

    What results are Alignment Cops, Full Cops and Role Cops given if they investigate a Godfather or a Miller?
    Alignment Cops are told "Town" for Godfathers and "Mafia" for Millers. Full Cops are told "Vanilla Town" for Godfathers and "Mafia Goon" for Millers. Role Cops are told "Godfather" for Godfathers and "Miller" for Millers.

    Can Role Cops tell the difference between a Vanilla Town and Mafia Goon?
    No. They are told "Vanilla" when investigating either of these two roles.

    If I roleblock someone with a Bulletproof Vest, will that nullify the effect of the vest?
    No. Bulletproof Vests are passive modifiers that cannot be blocked from working.

    If I roleblock Masons, Neighbors or Lovers with out of thread communication privileges, can I prevent them from talking at night?
    No.

    If I roleblock a Godfather, will they still be revealed as being town-aligned to Alignment Cops and Full Cops that night?
    Yes.

    Are you wondering about how to vote, submit night actions or multi-isolate players? Read about this and more here:

    HOW TO VOTE

    Our forum votes for someone by using the vote tags: [V]Thingyman[/V]. Preview:

    ##Vote Thingyman

    Make sure that you spell out the full, correct name. Abbreviations or misspelled names will not be registered by the Modbot.

    To unvote, use the tags: [UNV][/UNV] . When unvoting you do not need to enter the name of the person that you are unvoting. Preview:

    ##Unvote

    HOW TO VOTE BY PROXY / ANONYMOUSLY


    Select your vote choice and click submit using the form at the bottom of the thread.

    Big Image: https://i.imgur.com/hBJ7arR.gif
    Click to load this image


    VOTING BUTTONS


    You can also quickly vote for someone by clicking on the box with a checkmark icon, which will bring up an alphabetized dropdown containing the names of living players:



    This will insert [V][/V] tags with the name of the player you selected in the dropdown, perfect every time.

    Click the empty checkbox button to insert [UNV][/UNV].
    HOW TO SUBMIT NIGHT ACTIONS

    If you have a night action, simply submit this at night by scrolling to the bottom of the game thread. Here you will find a night action form like this:



    Click the dropdown and select the player whom you wish to use your night action on. You can change it as many times as you wish before the deadline expires.
    HOW TO REQUEST A VOTECOUNT

    Votecounts will appear automatically at various intervals, but you can also call up votecounts yourself by following these steps:

    First, you need to apply to join "Mafia Game Hosts" under Permission Groups.

    Second, once your request has been approved, you will be able to call up votecounts by simply pushing the "Post Votecount" button in the top right corner of any game thread that you'd like an updated votecount for.

    OTHER SPECIAL FEATURES

    VIEWING VOTE HISTORY

    There are three ways to access the vote history for any game.

    1. Click on the "Vote History" button in the top right corner of the game thread:

    2. Click on the "View Vote History" link, which accompanies all votecounts:

    3. Click on Modbot in the top forum menu. This will give you a list of ongoing and completed games:



      Next, simply click on "Vote History" to view all votes for that game.

    Following any of the above three steps will bring you to an overview like this one:



    Click on a Voter's username to view all of the votes by their slot.

    Click on a Target's username to view all of the votes for their slot.

    ISOLATING A PLAYER'S POSTS

    If you wish to read a player's posts in isolation, simply click on "ISO" in the top right corner of one of that player's posts in the relevant thread as illustrated here:



    Alternatively, you can access a player's posts in isolation by clicking on the number next to "Replies:" in the forum lobby.



    Doing so will pull up a window listing the post counts for everyone who has posted in that thread. You access someone's posts in isolation by simply clicking on the number next to "Posts:" for that person.



    The ISO view itself has Quote and Multi-Quote buttons inside it, which will make it very easy to quickly quote a lot of a player's posts for analysis or commentary:


    MULTI-ISOLATING

    If you wish to read not just one player's posts, but you want to ISO multiple players, then click the "Multi ISO" button to the left of "Game Tools" and select the players in question as shown here:


    MULTI-QUOTING WHILE THREAD IS LOCKED

    Note that you can multi-quote posts from even locked game threads. This is useful for when you wish to reread the game and do work during night phases.

    After quoting the relevant posts, you simply open a different, opened thread and press "Go Advanced". Then add the quotes to your post by clicking the prompt below the post area as shown here:



    Now, of course you can't post your work in the game thread while the thread is locked, but you can copy paste and save your work to a local file or the cloud and have it ready to post the very next day phase (if you're still alive, that is).

    BOOKMARKS

    Whenever you open a game thread, you are able to bookmark posts. This is for many players an important tool for keeping track of and remembering vital pieces of information, reads, claims etc.

    Also, note that these bookmarks are saved to your user account, meaning that it eliminates the trouble associated with keeping notes between different computers/devices.

    If you want to bookmark a post, you simply scroll to the post that you want to bookmark and press "Set Bookmark" as shown here:



    This will call up 5 different colored icons (Blue, Red, Yellow, Green, and Black) on the right side of the post in question. You can click any of these icons, which will then prompt you to include a note for the post.

    If you don't want to include a note, you don't have to - just leave it blank. The color coding in itself can be a valuable tool. Maybe you want to use Red bookmarks for posts that you find suspicious, Green bookmarks for posts that you find townie, Black bookmarks for posts containing claims, or whatever system you can think of that will be helpful to you.



    Once this is done, you have now successfully bookmarked a post with a certain color and maybe even a note. If you wish to remove the bookmark again, click on "Unset Bookmark".

    How do I access bookmarks?

    There are two ways to access your bookmarks.
    1. Inside a game thread, you can access the bookmarks for that specific game by simply right clicking on the "Bookmark" button and opening the link.

      This will bring you to a separate page that is automatically filtered to only show bookmarks from the game thread that you accessed the page from.
    2. You can also access your bookmarks by going to Features in the site's top menu:



      This will bring you to a page where no bookmarks are shown by default. However, you have several filtering options.

      You can filter by Game, by Player and by Color - and all of them at once if you so wish.

      Here's an example of filtering by only red bookmarks in one specific game:



    If you want to be taken directly to one of your bookmarked posts, you just click the post number.

    How do I quote bookmarks?

    You can also multi-quote bookmarked posts by clicking the little "+" button seen above on the far right side of each bookmark.

    Once you have multi-quoted all the bookmarked posts that you want to quote, you will then have to go to the game thread in which you wish to quote the bookmarked posts.

    Here you have two ways of quoting the posts.

    1. Click on "Reply With Quote" on another post as shown here:



      You will then probably want to delete the last post quoted in the reply box, but otherwise you should be good to go.
    2. Or you can do the more smooth option and click the "Reply To Thread" button at the top and bottom of the game thread - as shown here:



      By doing this you will open up a reply box containing only your multi-quoted bookmarked posts.
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    Completed SDM #197 - TrackerKeith!

    Tracker 9er, 2 mafia goons 1 town tracker 6 vanilla town!


    1. Hoboloser
    2. ManuMafia
    3. Hades6201
    4. OkenMafiaAccount
    5. SophiaBach
    6. Kajot
    7. Aldo
    8. Athena Cykes
    9. FreeChilly
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    Experimental I'm quite well aware, no worries!! :p It'll be...

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightsofCydonia (#78)
    Ya know what, I'll sub.

    @Marshall Union Gazette Re: the overlap list: Hydra Event 2021 Game 1 starts on November 1st.
    I'm quite well aware, no worries!!

    It'll be added if/when that game gets scheduled!!!
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    Guess there's no need to wonder whether anyone...

    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#134)
    Quote Originally Posted by Silvercrys3467 (#132)
    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#124)
    I'm pretty free except for Thanksgiving weekend, should we list game 5 as our homesite

    I don't see a rule against it

    Everyone bs your homesites, they can't ban us all
    Guess there's no need to wonder whether anyone noticed the communities I was adding for people!!
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    Clarification regarding the bio: it's one bio per...

    Clarification regarding the bio: it's one bio per hydra slot, a joint effort!!!
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    Thread: Battle Royale

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    Strategy I'm fairly certain you meant MyNameIsNothing?

    I'm fairly certain you meant @MyNameIsNothing?
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    You can find it in your inbox!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by La Raskatt (#119)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#1)
    Be sure to sign up by October 31st and please try to have your form/doodle completed by November 2nd, as the full schedule of game dates will be released shortly afterwards! If you wish to play in the game starting on November 1st, you will need to complete your forms ASAP in order for our schedulers to fit you in!!
    @Arapocalypse where can we find the link to this form/doodle to put in our preferences or is this not quite available yet?
    You can find it in your inbox!!!
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    Experimental Did you want to be randed in on this account?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woozy Wizard (#74)
    The lack of gimmick recycling saddens me.
    Did you want to be randed in on this account?
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    roro__b My apologies, I misread Dolby and thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#45)
    Hello I am very confused as to why I got a doodle thingie to fill in lmao
    @roro__b My apologies, I misread Dolby and thought it said Dobby; feel free to ignore it!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezradekezra (#60)
    if 3 player hydras are banned can we have 4 player hydras
    @Ezradekezra Not doing 4-player hydras either, sorry, but I can notify you when the uncapped hydra game signups go up!!
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    The postcap is mechanically enforced, so don't...

    Quote Originally Posted by min (#36)
    I promise I won't forget the postcount cap like a good child
    The postcap is mechanically enforced, so don't worry, that won't be an issue!!!
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    Available dates are each Monday, starting from...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#16)
    is there an idea of what dates are available to choose?
    Available dates are each Monday, starting from November 1st to December 13th!!!
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    Fun fact: you can now officially publicly...

    Fun fact: you can now officially publicly designate your hydra to be an alt of your main accounts, and also be able to swap from your main to your hydra faster!!! As seen here:



    Quick desktop guide on how to do that:

    Go to your hydra's profile page, where at the left side under your profile picture, you'll see this:



    Click +Add Alternate and a window will then pop up, which you'll want to fill out similar to this in order for your accounts to be shared publicly:

    (Your profile pic/account will pop up once you've entered your hydra head's name in!)

    Then click Add Alternate Account, log back into your main account, and there should be a pop-up window there for you to approve the hydra as your alt!!!

    Afterwards, by clicking Notifications and Switch User, the account will be there as an option for you to swap to (while still needing you to input the password for security reasons) without having to log out/in again!!
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    All the input here very much appreciated; while...

    All the input here very much appreciated; while it's not possible to add all hype setups to options provided, it did help greatly in changing things up in terms of setups this year!!!!

    You can check them out and sign up for the hydra event here!!!

    As an aside, D6 changes seem interesting, at least; if it ends up replacing the current automated version by the time the hydra games start and all, then sure they could be used!!!
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    Will be updated as schedules come out!!! If...

    Will be updated as schedules come out!!!

    If there is a November 1st game, that will be scheduled as soon as possible... so get your forms/doodles in fast if you might want to start playing on that date!!

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    Hydra Event 2021!

    Hydra Event 2021!



    Two heads are more sus than one!

    Organizing team!

    1. @Ampharos, co-scheduler
    2. @Arapocalypse, hype squad organizer/etc
    3. @Hally, general wrangler
    4. @LordQuas, host wrangler
    5. @Lissa, co-scheduler

    Any of the 5 of us can be contacted with issues relating to any aspect of the event, with the exception of any game we happen to be playing in!
    The Mafia Championship can sometimes be a bit serious business. And you know, sometimes girls just wanna have fun. So consider this an off-season "for fun" event with no pressure - it's all about meeting people from other communities and just showing off the unique qualities of your home community in the hopes that new bonds can be formed.

    For those who don't know what a Hydra is, it's when two players play a game on the same account (two heads of a hydra). When the account dies in the game, both players making up that hydra are eliminated. So basically, this event is a chance for you to partner up with a friend and play against duos from other communities.

    The 2020 hydra event attracted 118 unique hydras (along with a 34-player hydra mash), and we're looking forward to all the hydras signing up this year, new and old!!
    After you've signed up (details below), we'll slot you into a game according to your preferences, pinging you in this thread once the schedule is set!

    No matter what setup is chosen, expect these to be some of the mechanics and rules of your game:

    Mechanics: Deadline elimination w/ majority option after Day 1, in the case of a tie the elimination will be randomized, no elimination is a valid vote.
    Night Chat: Not allowed, the thread is closed during night phases.
    Out of Thread Communication: Each hydra pair is allowed to use any means of privately communicating with each other. Besides this, only the mafia team may communicate outside of the thread.
    Minimum participation requirements: 10 posts per game day. If you do not meet 10 posts, you will be asked if you can improve or potentially subbed out. Hydras not meeting this requirement will only be modkilled in extreme circumstances, such as if no sub can be found.

    Start dates offered will be every Monday November 1st to December 13th, so expect your game(s) to begin on one of them. As long as you and your partner can start your game somewhere in that time frame, we should be able to fit you into a game that suits you.

    Be sure to sign up by October 31st and please try to have your form/doodle completed by November 2nd, as the full schedule of game dates will be released shortly afterwards! If you wish to play in the game starting on November 1st, you will need to complete your forms ASAP in order for our schedulers to fit you in!!

    Read our general site rules here.

    You can spectate all the games from the hydra spectator chat in MU Discord: https://discord.gg/mafiauniverse
    A post cap of 300 posts per day will be implemented for all hydra games, regardless of size or phase, and will be lifted 1 hour before EoD!!

    With the implementation of the postcap, there will be a non-postcapped hydra game with an unconventionally higher post minimum TBD (possibly ~50 posts) hosted at the end of the event, on December 27th! Signups for this game will be up around early December, and you can currently sign up for the pinglist to be notified when that happens!

    Bios!!! Hydras will now be able to submit a bio to be showcased in the hydra game threads, similar to champs! The bio template can be found below:


    NATIONALITY: [...]
    STARTED PLAYING MAFIA (YEAR): [...]
    HAVE PLAYED MAFIA ON THE FOLLOWING SITES: [...]

    BIO:
    [Insert whatever information or fun facts that you wish here. Talk about your hydra origin story, mafia-related accolades, impressive stats, fun anecdotes, favorite role to play, strengths and weaknesses, your approach to the game, other players' quotes about you, or take out the piss on the whole thing and make some jokes. The ball is entirely in your court, this will be how you present yourself to your fellow hydras.]

    After signing up, at any time before your hydra game rands, you can pm @Arapocalypse (Arapocalypse#0834) with your hydra bio! Disclaimer: you may receive a meme or similar if you do not submit a bio!

    Anonymous hydras will not be allowed, and there will not be an option for 3-headed hydras!
    The following will be offered as setup options:

    • A low-powered setup consisting of 13ers, where you will be randed one setup within the possible setups here:

      • Town odd night doctor + even night vigilante
      • Town vigilante + jailkeeper vs. mafia roleblocker + role cop
      • Town arsonist + firefighter vs. mafia role cop
      • Town voyeur + motion detector vs. mafia motion detector
      • Town tracker + bodyguard vs. mafia role cop
      • Town odd night watcher + even night tracker vs. mafia role cop
      • Town tracker + 1-shot vig vs. mafia roleblocker
      • Town role cop + doctor vs. mafia jailkeeper
      • Town role cop + 2-shot vig vs. mafia roleblocker
      • Town odd night vanilla cop + even night doctor vs. mafia role cop
      • Town motion detector + vigilante vs. mafia roleblocker
      • Town voyeur + jailkeeper vs. mafia role cop
      • Town voyeur + vigilante vs. mafia roleblocker
      • Town roleblocker + doctor vs. mafia role cop
      • Town vanilla cop + 1-shot vig vs. mafia tracker


      With additional vanilla town + mafia goons to be added to fill up a 10 town vs. 3 mafia structure for each 13er setup!

    • D6 is a 13-player semi-open setup designed by Visorslash. It is a 13-player Semi-Open Variable setup designed to offer a more balanced experience compared to C9++.

      Town Power Roles:

      To determine the town power roles, roll a die six times and mark down the numbers. Each roll corresponds to a grouping below.

      1-3: Investigative
      4-5: Protective
      6: Killing

      Mark down the number of each grouping and add the corresponding roles from the table below.

      Investigative
      1 Innocent Child
      2 Voyeur
      3 Motion Detector
      4 Role Cop
      5 Tracker
      6 Parity Cop
      Protective
      1 Bodyguard
      2 Doctor
      3 Roleblocker
      4 Jailkeeper
      5 Jailkeeper + Bodyguard
      6 Roleblocker + Doctor
      Killing
      1 1-Shot Vigilante
      2 2-Shot Vigilante
      3 Vigilante
      4 Vigilante
      5 Vigilante + 1-Shot Vigilante
      6 Vigilante + 2-Shot Vigilante

      Add as many Vanilla Town roles as necessary to bring the total number of Town roles to 10.

      Mafia Power Roles:

      Count the number of town power roles from above, then take that number minus one. Roll a die that many times and mark down the numbers. Add the corresponding roles from the table below.

      Mafia Roles
      1 Mafia Roleblocker
      2 Mafia Roleblocker
      3 Mafia Jailkeeper
      4 Mafia Role Cop
      5 Mafia Tracker
      6 Mafia Watcher

      Add as many Mafia Goon roles as necessary to bring the total number of Mafia roles to 3.

      Modbot will do this at random for you.
    • Pick a single row or column at random

      A B C
      1 Town Vigilante | Odd Cycle Town JOAT | x2 Tracker, x1 Doctor, x1 Roleblocker | Even Cycle Mafia Goon | Bulletproof, x1 Strongman
      2 Mafia JOAT | x1 Poisoner, x1 Jailkeeper, x2 Role Cop Town Voyeur Town Vigilante | Even Cycle
      3 Town Roleblocker | Non-Consecutive Mafia Watcher | Vengeful Town Doctor | Non-Consecutive

      Add 8 VTs and 2 Goons for a 10v3
    • Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#1)
      This year's setup is called JOAT^2 and features 15 players.

      The setup consists of the following:

      3x Mafia Goon
      2x Town Jack Of All Trades (9x Doctor, 9x Motion Detector, 9x Tracker)
      10x Vanilla Townie


      Note that the Jacks Of All Trades must use all three actions before repeating an action, i.e. they are rotating. This does not mean they must use the actions in the same order every time.
    • x1 2-Shot Mafia Poisoner
      x1 Backup Mafia Poisoner
      x2 Mafia Goons

      x1 Town 2-Shot Jailkeeper

      x1 Town Night 1 + Night 3 Vigilante
      x1 Town Night 2 Vigilante
      x10 Vanilla Town
    • Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#1)
      Ninjas & Guns

      This is a Matrix6 / Matrix12 inspired semi-open setup where nobody from either team knows the exact setup on n0. The setup is named for the Mafia Ninja JOAT role and the many vigilante setups.

      17 Players. 13 Town. 4 Mafia.

      Mafia Night Kills are assigned/carried.

      A B C D E
      1 Town Cop Mafia Jailkeeper OR Ninja JOAT Town Jailkeeper Vanilla Town 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante
      2 Vanilla Town Town Doctor Mafia Role Cop 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante Town Masons
      3 Mafia Ninja JOAT Town Tracker 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante Town Innocent Child Town Bodyguard
      4 1-Shot Bulletproof Mafia Role Cop OR Jailkeeper Town Vigilante Mafia Jailkeeper ORNinja JOAT Vanilla Townie
      5 1-Shot Mafia Vigilante OR Role Cop Vanilla Townie Vanilla Townie Town JOAT Mafia Jailkeeper


      Town JOAT
      Has the following abilities: 2-Shot Peek, 2-Shot Vig, 2-Shot Jail.
      All abilities must be used once before any can be used a second time.


      Mafia Ninja JOAT
      Every night you may choose one of the following passive abilities:NOTE: This is a choice of passive ability, not a night action, and as such it cannot be tracked or roleblocked.

      Jailkeepers and Doctors cannot target the same player on consecutive nights. Jailkeepers cannot target themselves.

      Villa Cop gets a random n0 town peek. Peeks alignment (town/mafia).

      Mafia Cop gets a random n0 vanilla town peek. Peeks full role.

      Mod rands the setup (rows and columns), then rands the "OR" statements. This means each row/column has a 10% chance of being chosen. Setup 4 & Setup B cannot have two jailkeepers.

      The two randed mafia roles should be assigned in alphabetical order so as not to modspew the setup to the mafia team.

      Possible Setups & Mafia Pairs:
      1. Ninja: Make yourself untrackble for this night phase
      2. Godfather: Make yourself peek as a villager for this night phase
      3. Bulletproof: Wear your bulletproof vest for this night phase (can be re-used until you are shot, at which point this action can no longer be used)
      4. 1A - Cop, Jailkeeper, Vanilla. Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Vigilante
      5. 1B - Cop, Jailkeeper, Vanilla. Ninja JOAT, 1-Shot Vigilante
      6. 2A - Vanilla, Doctor, Masons. Role Cop, 1-Shot Vigilante
      7. 3A - Tracker, Innocent Child, Bodyguard. Ninja JOAT, 1-Shot Vigilante
      8. 4A - 1-Shot Bulletproof, Vigilante, Vanilla. Jailkeeper, Role Cop
      9. 4B - 1-Shot Bulletproof, Vigilante, Vanilla. Jailkeeper, Ninja JOAT
      10. 4C - 1-Shot Bulletproof, Vigilante, Vanilla. Ninja JOAT, Role Cop
      11. 5A - Vanilla, Vanilla, JOAT. Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Vigilante
      12. 5B - Vanilla, Vanilla, JOAT. Jailkeeper, Role Cop
      13. A1 - Cop, 1-Shot Bulletproof, Vanilla. Ninja JOAT, 1-Shot Vigilante
      14. A2 - Cop, 1-Shot Bulletproof, Vanilla. Ninja JOAT, Role Cop
      15. B1 - Doctor, Tracker, Vanilla. Jailkeeper, Role Cop
      16. B2 - Doctor, Tracker, Vanilla. Jailekeeper, Ninja JOAT
      17. B3 - Doctor, Tracker, Vanilla. Ninja JOAT, Role Cop
      18. C1 - Jailkeeper, Vigilante, Vanilla. Role Cop, 1-Shot Vigilante
      19. D1 - Vanilla, Innocent Child, JOAT. Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Vigilante
      20. D2 - Vanilla, Innocent Child, JOAT. Ninja JOAT, 1-Shot Vigilante
      21. E1 - Masons, Bodyguard, Vanilla. Jailkeeper, 1-Shot Vigilante

    • Quote Originally Posted by Thingyman (#1)
      First randomly select a number to decide the mafia team's composition of Power Roles (1-2), then randomly select a letter to decide the town's composition of Power Roles (A-E). Fill in the number of Vanilla Townies needed to make the town team have 13 members total, and you have your setup (13 townies versus 4 mafia).

      Column 1 Column 2
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Goon
      Mafia Role Cop
      Row A Town Even Night Vigilante
      Town Roleblocker
      Town Voyeur
      Town Even Night Vigilante
      Town Roleblocker
      Town Tracker
      Row B Town Even Night Vigilante
      Town Jailkeeper
      Town Even Night Vigilante
      Town Jailkeeper
      Town Voyeur
      Row C Town Tracker
      Town Jailkeeper
      Town Tracker
      Town Jailkeeper
      Town Voyeur
      Row D Town Tracker
      Town Roleblocker
      Town Voyeur
      Town Jack of All Trades*
      Town Even Night Vigilante
      Town Motion Detector
      Row E Town Doctor
      Town Jack of All Trades*
      Town Doctor
      Town Roleblocker
      Town Motion Detector

      Additional information:

      *Town Jack of All Trades: 1x Vigilante, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Tracker.

      Example:
      If you randed 2 and B, then you'd get the following setup:

      Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon, Mafia Role Cop
      vs.
      Town Even Night Vigilante, Town Jailkeeper, Town Voyeur, 10 Vanilla Townies

      So the general idea is that as a townie, you know you're up against one of 2 possible mafia team compositions. And as a mafia you know you're up against one of 5 possible town team compositions. The more powerful the mafia team is, the more power is given to the town team, naturally.

      Important setup notes:Role explanations:
      Please go to this page to read about the different roles if you're unfamiliar with them (important: you can find the exact wording of the Role PMs here): https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...oles-Modifiers
      • The mafia's factional kill must be assigned to a single member of their team each night. This means that the mafia's factional kill can, for example, be blocked by a Town Jailkeeper or tracked by a Town Tracker.
      • None of the included roles can self-target, including the protective roles.
      • Doctors, Jailkeepers, and Roleblockers are not allowed to target the same players on consecutive nights.
      • The Even Night Vigilante may only shoot on even nights (i.e. Night 2, Night 4, etc.).
      • There are no night 0 actions (aka pre-game actions).

    • Quote Originally Posted by Thingyman (#1)
      ROLES
      This year's setup is called Mad17 and was developed by soah.

      13x Town
      4x Mafia


      Of the following 18 roles, 1 will randomly be discarded and the other 17 will be assigned at random to one player in the game without regard for the player's alignment. Each role is restricted to using its action only on the nights listed on the chart. The Mafia will be told which role is not present in the game.

      Role Acts On These Nights Modifier
      Watcher n1 Only Macho
      Watcher n2 Only
      Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja
      Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja
      Vigilante n2 Only
      Vigilante n3 Only
      Doctor n1, n3
      Doctor n2, n4
      Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman
      Tracker n2, n4 1x Strongman
      Jailkeeper n1, n3
      Jailkeeper n2, n4
      Roleblocker n1, n3
      Roleblocker n2, n4
      Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman
      Jack of All Trades
      (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker)
      n1, n2, n3
      Jack of All Trades
      (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur)
      n1, n2, n3
      Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman


      Watcher: Learns who visited the target, but not what actions they did

      Alignment Cop: Learns whether the target is town or mafia, but not their role

      Vigilante: Kills the target

      Doctor: Protects the target from kills on that night only (cannot self-protect)

      Tracker: Learns who the target visited, but not what actions they did

      Roleblocker: Prevents the target from using their action on that night only

      Jailkeeper: Performs both a Doctor and Roleblocker action on the target, both protecting and blocking them (cannot self-protect)

      Role Cop: Learns the role of the target, but not whether they are town or mafia

      Jack of All Trades: Can use one of their abilities per night without repeats

      Voyeur: Learns what type of actions were performed on the target, but not who did them

      Macho: The player cannot be protected from kills

      Strongman: Kills performed with Strongman cannot be stopped in any way (serves no purpose if the player is town)

      Ninja: Night actions performed on the night that Ninja is used are invisible to investigative roles (Trackers, Watchers, and Voyeurs)

      MECHANICSFAQ
      Please note that Mafia Host - the Modbot - will post a FAQ as well that might contain answers to some questions that aren't covered here.

      Q: What changes to the setup have been made since the practice games?

      A: The Roleblocker role has been split into two roles, creating 18 total. One role will randomly be excluded from the setup, and the Mafia will be told which one it is. Also, both Tracker roles have gained Strongman modifiers.


      Q: What does Cycle mean?

      A: Cycle is Modbot terminology for the night(s) on which a role can act. This is an example of how some roles might appear in Role PMs and Role Cop investigations:

      Jack of All Trades (x1 Doctor, x1 Jailkeeper, x1 Voyeur) | Cycle 1, 2, 3
      Doctor | Cycle 2, 4
      Alignment Cop | x1 Ninja | Cycle 2
      Macho Watcher | Cycle 1


      Q: What do the Voyeur results look like?

      A: The Voyeur sees the type of action performed on the target, but not the exact action. Modbot groups the actions into four categories: Protection (Doctor), Manipulative (Roleblocker, Jailkeeper), Killing (Vigilante, Mafia Faction Kill), and Investigative (all others). The Voyeur does not see their own action in their results. This is a sample results PM: "theknightsofneeee had Manipulative, Investigative, Killing done to them."


      Q: What is the order of operations? What happens if a roleblocker targets a roleblocker?

      A: The automated post at the start of each game contains a FAQ (in a spoiler tag) which answers these questions and more. However, there is one important clarification: the order of operations lists Strongman Kills first because they are immune to blocks, and regular kills are listed ahead of investigative actions because investigative roles can witness killing actions, but this only means that the target is marked for death before other actions are processed. No deaths actually occur until after all actions have been processed. In other words, dying at night never stops a player's action from happening.

      The other important pieces of information are that Roleblockers act before Jailkeepers and that those roles are capable of blocking another player who attempts to use the same action. For more detailed information, please consult the aforementioned FAQ.

      Q: Can Mafia players target their teammates with night actions?

      A: Yes. The Mafia's faction kill cannot be used on a member of their own team, but all other actions (including Vigilante kills) may be used on members of their own team.


      Q: Can Doctors and Jailkeepers self-target in order to protect themselves?

      A: No.

      Q: Which roles can self-target?

      A: Only Watchers.


      Q: Are the Strongman and Ninja actions limited only to the nights listed on the chart?

      A: No. If a player is Mafia, they may use their Strongman or Ninja ability on any night.


      Q: Can players be investigated while they are jailkept?

      A: Yes. Jailkeep is a combination of roleblock and doctor, neither of which prevent investigations on the target.


      Role PMs
      Please go to this page to find the exact wording of the Role PMs: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...oles-Modifiers
      • Role reveals at death are alignment only. You will not learn a player's exact role when they die.
      • Usage of night actions is optional, but unused actions will be lost.
      • Majority is not in effect.
      • Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
      • Mafia factions win when they achieve Parity and all other evil factions have been eliminated at any time.
      • Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
      • No Lynching is enabled. Vote for No Lynch to forgo a lynch that Day.
      • Mafia factional kills are optional. Mafia may submit a factional kill each night, but are not required to. However, starting night 5, the factional kill will be mandatory.
      • Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
      • Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction.
      • Mafia members may perform the faction kill in addition to their regular action at the same time.
      • Mafia may communicate at any time.
      • Tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players.

    • A game consisting solely of vanilla town and mafia goons, no PRs!
    • Custom closed setup (hosted by @LordQuas, any size)

    Please note that while game size and setup are separate options on the survey, some of these setups are only compatible with certain game sizes.
    Sign up with a friend from your home community by posting in this thread. Be sure to name the community you're representing and the name of your partner. There is no limit to how many hydras a single community can send. If you cannot find a partner from your home community, then feel free to try to match up with someone else here in this thread as a "Refugee Team". You may sign up for as many hydras as you can find people for and are willing to handle!

    Upon signing up you will receive a link to a Doodle and a Google Survey within a few hours, which will help @Ampharos and @Lissa slot you into a game best suited to your availability and preferences.

    Either in your signup post or on the survey, please select a name for your hydra - this is the name of the account you'll be playing under. If you fail to do so, the organizers will create one for you, and it will probably not be particularly hype!

    Hydras:
    1. @Maryam = @Ren4977 + @Bunnelby (Mafia Universe?)
    2. @Ultra Despair Girls = @Ampharos + @Arapocalypse (Towa City)
    3. @PerpetuallyPocketed = @bladescape + @Dolby (The Bell Tree)
    4. @Yu Nishinoya = @Poison + @The Lukundo (Karasuno High) - needs Lukundo confirmation
    5. ??? = @Arete + @orangeandblack5 (FoL?)
    6. @No Anime = @Ephemeral + @Visorslash (Japan)
    7. @Bogs Binny = @GGhana + @iaafr (Didney Worl)
    8. @go rams = @dyachei + @Visorslash (go rams)
    9. @BiTePuDoCh = @biancasbotique + @Dolby (BiTePuDoCh)
    10. @NANYA BUSINESS = @dunya + @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (The Syndicate)
    11. @Kyukon = @Mistyx + @Rokon (Mafia Universe)
    12. @Eleventh Hour = @Mistyx + @Ren4977 (Mafia Universe)
    13. @baysrus = @min + @marry (baby)
    14. @Ezra on the Cob = @Ezradekezra + @carrots (Town of Salem)
    15. ??? = @Trustworthy Liberal + @Ren4977 (???)
    16. @MaraBrennan = @Essoa + @bladescape (CFC)
    17. @Gellenduo = @tessepia + @Rose Disco (Mafia Universe)
    18. Aliceson = @Alice Liddell + @Alison (???)
    19. Junko & Mukuro = @Wisdom + @Alison (???)
    20. @FINAL 2 = @marry + @BlueKang (EpicMafia)
    21. ??? = @Happy + @staypositivefriend (EpicMafia)
    22. @alexanne = @alexa + @neopest (EpicMafia)
    23. @i cc jailkeeper = @Marshal + @GGhana (FoL of Lies)
    24. @Rats In A Metal Bucket = @Guillotina + @Venti (Mafia Universe)
    25. @Bat$%#! Mafiosos = @Guillotina + @MissSparkle$ (Mafia Universe)
    26. ??? = @DaveDob + @Pawn Lelouch (???)
    27. Celestia & Aoi = @Alison + @staypositivefriend (???)
    28. @Double WIM = @Wisdom + @Michelle (???)
    29. @im retired = @Ampharos + @SmartBomb (retirement home)
    30. @Gnomich = @Garden Gnome + @Michelle (???)
    31. @La Raskatt = @hollowkatt + @Raskolnikov (CFC)
    32. @The Weird Taste Walrus = @Logic + @KnightsofCydonia (Amy's Pinniped Emporium)
    33. @M&Ms = @Monstrman + @Michelle (M&M factory)
    34. @DolbyTheCat = @Dolby + @PunchyTheCat (CFC Subforum)
    35. @Fusion Bolt = @c4e5g3d5 + @Hornet (Pokemon?)
    36. @Piff & Puff = @Wisdom + @The Penguin (Maffia Sverige)
    37. @WIMbot = @Alison + @Macdougall (The Syndicate)
    38. @KPOP = @Ace Marvel + @Dolby (CFC Subforum)
    39. @William Williams Keen = @benneh + @Ephemeral (???)
    40. @CatnodDotGif = @benneh + @dyachei (Mafia Universe)
    41. @bruh moment = @mewtini + @qva (The Cave of Dragonflies)
    42. @Plurality = @Alison + @Flea the Magician (???)
    43. @Duffer = @Super + @shady (EpicMafia)
    44. @Thrice Drunk = @Esooa + @Macdougall (mafia.gg)
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    Game Thread Can you elaborate on the bolded please,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#884)
    Fun marshal facts:

    - I think Frog/TL interaction bleeds v/v
    - I think DkKoba knows this
    - I think DkKoba intentionally threw in an early "this isn't right theres something up with this interaction" to block town from getting there
    - I am getting tunneled on DkKoba
    Can you elaborate on the bolded please, particularly TL?

    DkKoba thing, if you're talking about what I was thinking about, did ping me; if you want to roll that into my earlier ping of you that would be cool too!!!!
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    Game Thread DkKoba read boils down to attempting to discern...

    DkKoba read boils down to attempting to discern general mindset: at its core, when you open their ISO there's just a lot of constant towny desire to solve expressed? Not sure how else to say it; the main thing which stands out is its overall consistency and towny persistence!! The thing that really started this townread was the early DkKoba/Marshal stuff, back in March or something; a lot of the posts simply sort of scream extremely confident town-archetype of player, similar to like... Macdougall or something!!!

    Was going to type more, but don't really want to make this into a wall!!
    @Marshal would be curious as to your thoughts here, particularly the DkKoba wolfrange meta you had mentioned!!!! If you want to pull up examples, that would also be appreciated; we do have the time to meta-dive, at least!!
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    Game Thread Michelle It's been a while, come back; would like...

    @Michelle It's been a while, come back; would like to hear your takes!!!!!
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    Game Thread Posts 700-current - did not realize until now...

    Posts 700-current - did not realize until now there's literally less than a page left let's go!!!!!

    Trustworthy Liberal's P#713 is... interesting; makes me wonder, how much of the game had he skimmed at that point?

    WerewolfHunter's P#718 is... :/

    Trustworthy Liberal's P#723 is somewhat of a good sign? Definitely not something which I find as towny as DkKoba seems to, however; think they may be somewhat vastly underestimating a player's ability to type words!! Honestly, reading through all of his posts on this page (and the Frog/TL interactions which is... hmm) I feel like I need to reread a few mafia articles or something; there's a lot of stuff which I look at and wonder, does a member of the town ever really think that? The suspicion on DkKoba with regards to simply posting a lot to look towny, for instance!!! On the other hand, I also wonder if perhaps this is TWTBAW due to it feeling so out of touch with general thread sentiment? Then again, at that particular moment in time you had Frog around, whose reads were all over the place at the time, so who knows!!!

    Somewhat weirded out by DkKoba's P#747, feels like a weird walkback almost!!

    P#788 from Michelle is shrug, still would need to see more of!!! That being said, the earlier P#783 felt... okay, at least? Feel like that's a lot to go for defending Garden Gnome with solely; it's fairly light, but ultimately seriously need more thoughts from at this point!!

    GeneralHankerchief's town in P#820 is fine; P#821 is similar to many of the lines of thought I was deliberating over while reading through the Frog/Trustworthy Liberal bit - the thing is, I'm not entirely sure?

    Spoilering this as it got a little long:
    It's just... it depends? Usually I'd expect at least a touch of incredulity, but that's regardless of alignment because like you said as town, you want to make certain it's true, and as mafia you want to at least pretend, generally? I can't think of an instance off the top of my head, but mafia reaction to something like that, if they're jumping on it immediately, tends to be after other town have already made clear their stances/they can tell where the thread is leaning!

    That being said, there's also town who try and jump on it immediately because they think they've found something, because... they believe in the slip, essentially!! I think mafia often don't tend to elaborate much on investigating the validity of said incidents, generally speaking? Considering past incidents such as in my season 7 qualifier, there were a few people who, from the moment the word "slip" was mentioned, basically just tunneled an exact team for as long as they could!

    Personally I believe I've only seen a "slip" from town once as mafia, but that was a bit of a different scenario as it was something people misinterpreted to be a 1610!! Can't check, but I think I jumped on it fairly quickly though it didn't matter anyway as they were immediately dumpstered by town, which I definitely greatly encouraged before EoD!!!

    Even 1610 itself though... I still don't think it's quite cut and dry as the alternatives were stated? Dendrek did purposely pull the post out, but he also initially feigned some degree of mild uncertainty, if I recall correctly!!

    I think the thing that differentiates this instance from literally any other instance ever, however, is the absolute lack of urgency!!! Trustworthy Liberal didn't have to jump on it immediately, but either did so spur of the moment as town (as stated) or calculatedly as mafia; so... the question I have here is, why would he rush as mafia? There are months left in the day, so why do you rush it without knowing what's going on there, regardless of if that's your partner or not? But then again, why do you simply jump on it as town without knowing what's going on, too? It is simply quite ??? Am I overthinking this?!


    Okay, took a break and returned; rereading those interactions in particular, keeping in mind the above... I guess I'm leaning Trustworthy Liberal to be somewhat more likely to be mafia? Generally because town do have a general pattern of following up on the slip/wanting to ascertain its validity if they're seriously considering it could be real, and there's basically none of that in TL's followup!! Also his general consideration of it, when it's quite easy to ascertain in a few seconds what Frog was talking about, with it not being a slip slip, but merely a misunderstanding!!! This explains nothing regarding his need to post urgently, though, which bothers me!!!!


    Regarding P#824, yeah I guess the part regarding leveling applies a lot; that being said, I would be very curious as to @GeneralHankerchief's thoughts on the spoiler above and if that brings any further perspective to the Trustworthy Liberal read? If you think I'm simply overleveling myself on the read, that's fine too!!!

    I'm sort of skipping discussion of the other GH posts because I've already spent ages on this post, but they seem fairly solid all things considered - maybe not entirely getting the lendunistus/WerewolfHunter stuff but sure, Ignoramus I still would like to revisit, but think he's fine overall!!

    Noting to talk to Marshal about DkKoba's wolfrange and stuff; still going to get to them, after this post!!!

    Not really important, but I find GH's line in P#845 to be rather amusinng funny: "...here's Ara once again commenting on her paranoia of me and hesitancy to put me higher... but why? What's the source? What had I done to a certain point to make her so paranoid?"

    Also in general Marshal's overall approach to the thread feels roughly towny; still need to properly refresh this read, though!!

    Simply a very faint sketch of an alphabetically tiered readlist, I just want to post this already:

    Arapocalypse

    DkKoba
    Marshal
    sheepsaysmeep
    - that's right he's back, if you don't like it then too bad!!! (Still stale though!)
    Wesmaster160

    Frog
    Garden Gnome
    GeneralHankerchief
    Shad
    Visorslash

    Ampharos
    Cuthalion
    Michelle
    WerewolfHunter
    - shrug, I can't be bothered!

    ignoramus
    lendunistus
    Trustworthy Liberal
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    Game Thread I don't have anything constructive to say further...

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#892)
    For example, I STILL take issue with your sheep read. It makes no sense to me. I presented a well reasoned opinion on the matter and you are acting like you obviously won't be responding to it. It now looks doubly worse for you that you 'obviously' won't respond to it and interact with me. Weird.
    I don't have anything constructive to say further on the matter which I have not already said; if you would like my thoughts on it again, I'm fairly certain I went over it in my ISO!!!

    Also I accidentally cut the first bit and I'm not bringing it back, but I made it extremely clear that I am not going to timewarp like Apoc is infamously known for in my catchup (basically respond to every single post that catches my eye when there's a non-zero chance my questions will be answered a few posts/page later), saving interactions for posts after my catchup, which... I've quite clearly been doing!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#892)
    Ara, please understand this is not me being unfriendly. This is me playing the game trying to figure out whether or not you are Mafia. This is in no way unfriendly, it's how the game is played. Why are you trying to conflate calling someone Mafia with being unfriendly? It's weird.
    I have no idea where you got the notion that was what I was saying? To be specific, I was referring to how you called my reads/posts "pocketing" when... you should already know that this is the very vaguest generalities of my playstyle, regardless of alignment!!!

    In short, I'm never going to be unfriendly to anyone in a game, regardless of how I read them, and if you think that's pocketing... that's your problem because I'm not changing anything!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#892)
    Honestly, this last part has me of two minds. It feels like you're upset at my suspicion of you, and I want you to know that I'm assessing you fairly, I'm giving you my opinions to interact with, and I'm not even voting you. Keep it chill Ara. It's part of the game to figure out who is Town and who is Mafia.

    So, why would you invoke some level of frustration / emotional tell here? It's possible you are frustrated town, absolutely. It's possible you are emotionally manipulating me as Mafia as well. I don't know where to go from this, but know that I won't take your words personally. I understand it can be a stressful game.

    Cheers Ara!

    For what it's worth, reviewing your ISO has me convinced Wesmaster is Town more likely than not, not sure if that can help you figure out your world views better.

    @Arapocalypse
    Please don't take my usage of exclamation marks as frustration, because that is not a thing; simply stating the fact that as said before, we have played together/interacted enough that... I do think that you should know better to call my general friendliness "pocketing" if you're town, that's all!!

    Well, I'm glad I helped someone else get there further on Wesmaster, even if it's sounding like I was the last one!!!!

    Also in response to a part I cut out: yes I would love if someone who is town in my bottom two (or any!) tiers was able to convince me they were town, for obvious reasons of getting a better read on them, which is the entire point after all!!!
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    Game Thread It's not exactly worst case scenario for the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#888)
    Huge trend i've noticed is "the lower posters are mafia"
    which like, lol?
    Lets look at ara's readlist

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#878)
    Shrug, hoping all four mafia are in this tier + below, more likely to be 2-3 and I'm wrong somewhere above
    Ampharos
    Cuthalion
    Trustworthy Liberal

    This is basically never the entire mafia team, but hoping there's 1-3 maybe?
    ignoramus
    lendunistus
    Michelle
    WerewolfHunter
    [/B]
    *I haven't thought about any associations between them, they just happened to be in the same tier!!


    Another way to read my tiers is to just put "worst case scenario" in the town tiers (I modelled the first), ignoring the fact that there'd be far too many mafia if it were the actual absolutely worst case scenarios!!!!
    Her bottom 4 slots are the bottom 4 posters
    The rest of her PoE is the 4 next lowest posters - sheep.

    cmon
    theres no shot "worst case scenario" is that there are wolves in the top 1/2 of posters lol.

    ive seen a lot of ppl talk about how the lowposters all must die, seems like a very weird thread and one that mafia would coincidentally benefit from a ton if there aren't many mafia lowposters or they think they can direct the elim towards one of the town ones
    It's not exactly worst case scenario for the game, more for my reads in and of themselves, to be specific!!!

    Which, obviously, not everyone shares!!

    That being said, I do think you're probably correct in that this highly likely is not an explicitly sort by postcount game, all things considered

    This is sort of interesting to look at though, actually:





    Didn't really expect Garden Gnome to have posted that much? But then again, it's been over 9 months so...

    Unrelated, I'll elaborate more on my DkKoba read in a bit, meaning to be probably in a few hours/tomorrow at the latest!!!
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    Game Thread My apologies, I've gotten busy with stuff; that...

    My apologies, I've gotten busy with stuff; that being said, I think I should be able to become fully caught up today? If I recall correctly only a page and a half left, so... hype!!!!

    Happy thanksgiving, everyone else in the thread who definitely celebrates it in October!!!
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    Experimental If this is a Deltarune chapter 2 thing, please...

    Quote Originally Posted by Q5U4EX7YY2E9N (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rokon (#9)
    someone was bound to make the account
    Rule 69: If It Exists There Is A Themed Alt Of It
    If this is a Deltarune chapter 2 thing, please spoil your spoilers if you plan to discuss it!!!
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    Huh, okay; sounds spicy at least!!!! To be...

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#73)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ezradekezra (#72)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#71)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#68)
    15er:
    I call it “mess”

    Purple Goo
    Yellow Goo
    Red Goo
    1x Cop
    9x Vanilla Town

    Scum:
    Black Goo
    Mafia Role Thief
    What is a goo in this setup?
    Goos are bastard roles that have certain effects on people who visit them

    iirc purple goo swaps roles with visitors, yellow goo steals abilities from visitors, red goo neighborizes visitors, and black goo cults visitors
    Oh they affect visitors? Then replace the 9x Vanilla town with 9x Town Roleblockers
    Huh, okay; sounds spicy at least!!!!

    To be honest though, it's highly doubtful that a setup with a cult will make it in, considering the common sentiment against them/conversion!!
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    Game Thread Personally I haven't actually considered it that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#877)
    Funnily enough, I've had several theories on the possible makeup and different forms that this game's wolfchat would take and how it would affect the unique environment. I've consciously held off from elaborating about it/dumping thoughts here ITT, because frankly, I didn't think it would be extremely sporting and was steering a little too close to angleshooting for my own personal comfort.
    agreed for sure

    there are certain teams i have almost straight up ruled out
    Personally I haven't actually considered it that much recently, despite having a ton of speculation a few months ago; that being said, I feel semi-confident in saying that it at least is not a complete reverse sort by postcount team!!!!!
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    Game Thread ...Probably need to revisit each individual...

    ...Probably need to revisit each individual read's shelf life actually, saving that for continuing tomorrow!!!
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    Game Thread 600-699!!!!! P#602 - :wowee: P#606 -...

    600-699!!!!!

    P#602 -

    P#606 -

    Michelle's P#621 is... hmm; maybe the breadth is somewhat towny? But also questioning stuff like the last line a little - is that just Shad's general posts or what? Just, fairly shrug on the overall follow-up question being so vague!!!

    How on earth does DkKoba get to a mafia!Wes read if Michelle flipped mafia... what?

    Shad
    following up in P#630 on similar to where I was at feels solid, general posts feels like he's trying to get to her alignment and all!!

    P#633 is, uh, oops...

    DkKoba continues to be towny in general, reading through their reread of the thread, easy!!!!! Why does ignoramus simply saying hi and then dipping for ages seem towny though...? The language stuff they discussed in P#656 is incredibly fascinating, and I'm making a note to ask DkKoba about it next year/at some point in the future!!! But also what on earth with P#658!!!!!

    After reading through the Frog/DkKoba/Wesmaster interactions a few times... somewhat leaning Frog town a bit, I guess, in that I'm leaning him to be TWTBAW!!!! I acknowledge that Frog is probably one of the worst people to apply this read to, but ignoring what he's actually saying, I get the overall sense that he actually geniunely believes what he's saying here in the current gamestate/with the way he's interacting with DkKoba/Wesmaster!!!!

    Trustworthy Liberal's P#691 is... ??? What does any of this mean? Mostly just putting this off until the next page, hopefully there's more explanation; a small part of me wants to call that very slightly towny for simply not trying to appear towny, but... -shrug-

    Trying to make these reads more stringent:

    Arapocalypse

    More confident town, worst case scenario max 1 mafia, I strongly think 0
    DkKoba
    Marshal
    Wesmaster160

    Mid-confidence town, max 1 or maybe 2 mafia but I also think 0, but less strongly
    Garden Gnome
    Shad
    sheepsaysmeep
    - technically this read is getting a little stale, so...
    Visorslash

    Varying degrees of lighter town vibes, max 2* but I tentatively think 0
    Frog
    GeneralHankerchief

    Shrug, hoping all four mafia are in this tier + below, more likely to be 2-3 and I'm wrong somewhere above
    Ampharos
    Cuthalion
    Trustworthy Liberal

    This is basically never the entire mafia team, but hoping there's 1-3 maybe?
    ignoramus
    lendunistus
    Michelle
    WerewolfHunter

    *I haven't thought about any associations between them, they just happened to be in the same tier!!


    Another way to read my tiers is to just put "worst case scenario" in the town tiers (I modelled the first), ignoring the fact that there'd be far too many mafia if it were the actual absolutely worst case scenarios!!!!
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    Game Thread I wasn't planning to directly interact with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#871)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#854)
    ...And then he goes and makes stuff like P#513, which makes me ??? again but I could also potentially see that from a town!Frog?
    Pointing out how your top town sheep read is disconcerting makes you ???

    I gave you explicit common sense reasoning for my concerns so that you could respond to and interact with me. Instead you vaguely reference my post with a side-eye. I would call this an Ara-juke.

    I wasn't planning to directly interact with people about most posts made months ago, for obvious reasons; to be specific, the parts that made me ??? were saying I had a Wes vs Frog thing going on (which I personally think was clearly not the case), and also the fact that a main basis of your read is that my reads are like pockets, is, well...

    Your attempt to call "pocketing" that is just the fact that I try to be friendly in games, and literally everywhere, comes off as a touch surprising!!!

    No offense Frog, but considering that we've played/interacted frequently before, I suppose I simply would expect better from a town!Frog!!

    Which is making me question whether I'm expecting too much from a town!Frog, quite frankly!!!
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    Game Thread You're attributing more confidence than there...

    Quote Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal (#869)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#861)
    Quote Originally Posted by Trustworthy Liberal (#858)
    Idk how you get from point A-B on your two last reads lists ara p#853 and p#854.

    You have a side eye list and a kill list which turns just into a sideeye list moving frog up?

    Then state the shrug lost is now your most confident PoE giving a very hedgy read on the side eyes with little progression only read on any in the posts is on ignor which you even say you don't know how to feel really by the end of that post.

    Feels like your trying to back track to a different PoE and am curious why you seem the need to do so?
    To be specific, the overall order of the tiers is still a fairly accurate representations of where my reads are at!!

    As I referenced just before making the readlist, I'm getting the sense I simply have too many townreads... so while I'm hoping that all three mafia are in the bottom two tiers (ideally filling the bottom tier, but how likely is it really that all of them are lurking?), the general estimation of the tier names are about the maximum amount of how incorrect I expect to be in my reads!!!!

    The tier names are simply something which I occasionally do, to keep checks on my overall reads!!
    Yeah how you present the list even more so in your last list there don't show this in my eyes.

    It feels you are saying 2 atleast in the second tier with little hesatation and that the bottom could very well be three town.

    Also agree when you mention it felt like your town reads are blotted I think that's the right word... Moving on I disagree with your DKoba take obviously and wonder how much is post count vs posts made.

    Was originally gonna wait till you finished catch up but I got bored.
    You're attributing more confidence than there actually is, particularly when they obviously, well, don't add up to three!!! Anyways, it's more like an upper limit of inaccuracy, don't get too caught up on it!!

    Bloated? Quite so, yes!!!

    That being said, I can't believe you would ever accuse me, Arapocalypse, of using SBPCBWE (Sort By Postcount Become Werewolf Expert!) in a game of mafia!!!!!!!!

    Yes, that last line was sarcasm!! As I referenced earlier, it does also bother me considering most games have an element of SBPCBWE, but are almost never entirely so, hence keeping in mind where I'd most anticipate being wrong about reads!
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