Also has been noted that there's been like, literally 0 resistance to the Kevan wagon!!!
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Also has been noted that there's been like, literally 0 resistance to the Kevan wagon!!!
I figured a 6-person wagon would be fine to leave while exploring other options, didn't factor in that half the people I'd want to see on changing notions were already there, oops!
...It's just sort of difficult when a bunch of people haven't voted yet, hoping that changes though!!
I see you're making your way through the thread here, Catty; can you give a full readlist when you have?
Doesn't have to have in-depth thoughts for everyone, just a general sketch of where your thoughts are at would be appreciated!!!!
Which makes some sense, we've got:
Ash Lael - Was pretty adamant there on KruZe
!-!22-2-7 - Was also fairly adamant on him, but was also looking at Kevan
Fleur - Asleep, will likely not be here for EoD (not alignment-indicative)
Legend Dan Hoffman - Hasn't been around lately, I think? Don't remember if he'll be back for EoD or not!
Then we had the Kevan wagon increase, much of which seemed to be people who were mostly just settling for a low-poster that wasn't getting townread; which dismantled a bit after I left to see how people would react towards another wagon possibility... not sure what to read into that, though seems like something notable for the future anyways!!!
Also have the 4 people not voting which is actually notable because it comprises nearly a third of the game, on which it's noted that RagingIke left and rejoined!!
Going to actually look into KruZe again, the Kevan vote was actually particularly interesting in light of his earlier thoughts!!
I will be continuing to follow your posts and am still interested in your thoughts!!
Would you rather lynch Steele or Kevan today, if you had the choice?
Speaking of which, that reminds me that Drums hasn't actually returned which has been noted; I was looking forward to that!!!
Hey !-!22-22-7, any update on that Kevan read? It's been a while!!!
On that note, will be out for a few minutes, but will be here for EoD!!!!
Consider my asking more... prodding you to start your own wagon that is not a 0-poster if you want; you've a perfectly good vote that can be changed whenever you like!!!!
We're also still over 2 hours until EoD; I wouldn't consider these wagons fixed, or the lynch being certain at the moment!!
Hey Zen Blade, let's say Kruze/Kevan/Berz just weren't options today for some reason; who would you want to lynch then?
As an aside, unrelated but I've actually somewhat been enjoying the more casual play in the game so far just in general!!! Makes me feel like not threadsitting for a bit won't result in an hour of catching up!!! Anyways, just really been enjoying getting to know you all; nothing better than a bit of murder to get hyped about together!!!!
I also hope I haven't been overwhelming the thread too much post-wise; been actively trying to scale back a bit, and I think I actually won't hit the postmin before 2 hours today!!!
His posts after having started being voted have not been particularly hype either, so I'm cool with continuing to be here for the moment!!!
Have you read through his ISO?
What are your thoughts on say, Steel or Drums for a few?
I'd suggest taking a look at some of the lower-posters yourself since you're around, lots of people with an ISO of less than 20 posts which should not take long to go through, considering most aren't wallposts!!!!
If you haven't got the time though, I'd still suggest somewhere between Ser Kevan/Steele!!
Is Daniel the person you want to lynch today/where you think your vote would be most useful at the moment?
Also, I see your post later on; was asking you to vote since... you're around right now, and the others aren't!!!
Hi RagingIke by the way!!! Have you read up much, where are your thoughts/reads at?
Also would be cool if you could vote someone please thank you!!!!
Hmm, just sort of flicking through old KruZe ISOs; bit difficult considering mash meta is pretty distinctive from normal game meta!!! Most I can tell is that he seems to be more chill/whatever as mafia, actually solvy as town!!
Which is pretty basic!!!
Looking through his actual ISO here, I think I like it better on second thought; sure he didn't do that much initially, but I do think the way he's pushed on Legend Dan feels somewhat genuine? Feels like he's actively starting to engage with people now in a solvy way, particularly when there are several options that could easily be considered to be better!!
Granted, that's not exactly something I'd find clearing and is pretty light (also something easy to do from mafia), but something I somewhat like nonetheless!!!!
...I think I'm also probably misclearing at least someone out of being lynched today/falling into my activity reads trap, but I'm fine with that for today!!!
KruZe, do you happen to have a non-mash game you've played recently?
Also, what was your alignment in the MtG mash last week?
Look, just going to say straight up that it is extremely unlikely a 0-poster will be lynched today; would you consider voting someone like Ser Kevan or RagingIke? They're not exactly the most active of people either!!
As an aside, I also do expect posting to pick up as we near EoD regardless of alignment... for the most part, anyway!!!
That sort of thing!!!
What would your ideal two wagons be, for this EoD?
It's noted that you're the second person to have said something along the lines of this; would you say you normally have a good read on him?
Also why did you think KruZe's post voting Daniel in P#534 was curious?
#541: while some of Ash's description of KruZe seems somewhat accurate, the main issue I have is how truly alignment-indicative are these points? For instance, his behaviour not matching up to what he says it is which often isn't alignment-indicative (and could even be said to be slightly towny, because mafia tend to be more controlled with their behaviour), and the not pushing for someone/votes - it had still only been day 1!! I also don't really agree that KruZe sounds like a mafioso that has "played correctly and is now frustrated" as an overall description; not really interested in discussing these points at the moment because of perspective, and also there are other points that are valid there!
Yeah, the most recent Drums post is the main reason I'm holding off there because it sounds like he's going to be around more a bit later; only so much I'm willing to wait, but also there are a couple places I prefer to sit in the meantime, like this one!!!
Too Wolfy To Be Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf: someone who is (usually intentionally) trying too hard to act as though they are TWTBAW, often by giving outlandish takes/making posts that seem unbelievable on purpose, so they're just mafia!
I think you're right on the fence between the two at the moment!!!
Too Wolfy To Be Too Wolfy To Be Too Wolfy To Be A Wolf: someone who purposely tries to act a certain way as town which may or may not be meant to intentionally suspicious, but looks very much like outlandish mafia... but it's also all very much and not how mafia would actually pretend to be, so they're just town!!!
It would be fun to go on, but you get the gist!!
Yeah, main thing is basically whether she's TWTBAW or TWTBTWTBAW for which I'm concerned it could be the latter due to the "traps" being ones which are like, ones which would only "catch" mafia that have just started playing mafia, but I'm probably fine with giving her another day here!!!
Regarding Ash's case on KruZe, I think it is certainly a towny case in and of itself, though am not overly taken in as to whether or not it's correct at the moment... just not really sure if he's given him that much of a chance, though I'm also concerned if I've given him too much leeway myself!! I know for a fact he's not inexperienced in forum mafia, though various things from Ash's case do bother me, so... am fine with him being a wagon at the moment!!!
My main concern is that maybe it is just playstyle, but that's not stopping me from wanting him to be a wagon as well; care to join me on Ser Kevan?
Both of those two as wagons would be fine, would be interested in seeing where that goes!!
It's okay if you tend to find it difficult, expressing reasoning can often be the most difficult part of mafia... as long as you try your best, hopefully we'll get there on you as town!!!
Can you talk about some of your townreads/who you have as top town? Doesn't have to be overly thoughtful/in-depth, just whatever you have in mind!!
Also have you read much of Catty's posts/reads there? What do you think of the read she gave on you, for one?
The people who I'd prefer wagons be consolidated on are:
Ser Kevan of Blackcrown
KruZe is fine as a wagon, would ideally prefer one or both of Ser Kevan/RagingIke as counterwagons the most out of the above!!!
If you had to lean him one way or another at this time, where would you go? What do you think of the wagon/reads on him thus far?
Sure we don't know anything about him right now, but you're discounting entirely that they haven't been in the thread to defend themself; that also discounts the fact that it's quite possible for the slot to be active tomorrow and possibly actually clear it!! Besides which, there are 3 mafia in this game, all of which are mafia goons; if he does turn out to be mafia then I'm not particularly concerned regardless with two others having actually posted today!
While a person being active helps them solve the game/others solve them, that does not necessarily mean activity = town, though it's fair to say that it's often easier to find people who are town when they're actively posting their thoughts in the thread!!!
Sure, first day reads aren't going to be based off things like claims (usually); however they can still be good, and useful for analysis in future days at the very least!!
Brief sketch of where I'm at, tiers alphabetized:
Somewhat towny, do not want to lynch today
Outskirts of town, knocking to come in
Legend Dan Hoffman - Might move down actually, bit shrug - wasn't particularly into many of his most recent posts!!
Fleur - Discussed earlier, will look into again before EoD; might go here if I'm feeling spicy - would probably prefer over KruZe though, out of this tier!
Drums - Somewhat holding out here as am expecting more from them this phase, felt like their re-entrance to the thread at least got them to be the towniest of this tier!!
RagingIke297 - was not particularly enthused by their opening, hasn't passed the bar of towniness
Ser Kevan of Blackcrown - Am fairly meh on him; while having acknowledged that he's said his posts early on tend to be "fluffy", still just... haven't found them to be towny!!
Steele - Most notable thing from them has been their readlist, which was... I think the most accurate term would be bland; not something I find particularly towny or suspicious, which means I'd be fine with voting them at the moment!
Berz - 0-poster
People in my top 2/3 tiers I will actively defend; ??? is the tier I probably wouldn't push for strongly or defend, would be down to lynch most anyone in my shrug pile at the moment!!
Do you think they would still try regardless of the reads of other people in the thread?