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    Sticky: Game Thread Honestly feel more confident on Quinn reading...

    Honestly feel more confident on Quinn reading that ISO than I do moth. But idk.
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    Sticky: Game Thread This game is weird, there's just too much town on...

    This game is weird, there's just too much town on town violence. The wagons... they're all full of high villagery people and are pure on people.

    Like, the Quinn wagon that flashed has the unflipped people of me/SK/TSP. We're likely all town. But moth called that up to bring attention to it.

    Quinn feels like a valid roundbox partner in this ISO. Just reading through his progression makes me feel that's the case.

    Eh, nothing too coherent. I'm reviewing the thread with the notes I took earlier and I keep going "I thought that was a good post? Why in the world did I think that?" Here are what passes for my thoughts on everyone, and then I need to crash. I like your phrase; this is more of a feels list at this point.

    I'm giving Axis a TWBTAW read for now (meaning that he does a lot of superficially weird and scummy looking things which would actually be really easy to wolves to avoid doing, so he's probably Town). If we're both still alive in a few Days I'll want to look into his meta to see if this is in his scumrange, but not voting there anytime soon.

    Fairly strong (for D1) gut Town read on Tony. Can't point to any particular post that supports that, but his overall vibe seems solvy.

    Liking Trenton so far, both the content of his posts and the tone of his initial "I'll start playing when I damn well want to" post.

    Kind of gut reading SmartBomb town, but I have no idea why, which makes me nervous.

    You, Keith, are pretty much oozing towniness, your vote on me notwithstanding. Wouldn't consider lynching you until close to LyLo, and given that everyone else seems to have the same read, I don't expect you to be alive at that point.

    (@Sheppard)Marshmallow is the only player here I've played with before, and only once, though I've followed some of Keith's Champs games in past years pretty closely. FWIW he seems a lot like he did in that game, and he was Town then. I was reading him pretty null, but I found trenton's case for him being Town fairly convincing. I think his playstyle is very similar to mine, so I hope if he's Town we'll be able to find each other.

    Roundbox seems fairly townie. I've liked some of KZA's recent posts. Nobody else has really made much of an impression, except...

    For my D1 vote I'm looking for someone at the intersection of the Venn diagram of "going to be really hard to read" and "seems unlikely to be very helpful if they are town". Accordingly,


    Readlist is:

    Tony
    Trenton
    Keith
    SmartBomb

    roundbox
    MM
    AXIS

    KZA

    --null line---

    Zone

    Axis/Keith
    TSP/MM/trenton
    SmartBomb
    Iain/roundbox/Video
    KZA/TL/Sheppard

    Unreadable: Zone, feitan
    Everything follows here. Except roundbox is suddenly in the lower category for some reason. Zone becomes unreadable... but that's fine. He mentions feitan for some reason.

    Honestly everyone between Axis and Liberal is kind of in a nebulous zone to me, but here are some comments about everyone in roughly descending order.

    Axis -- Just doesn't seem like a wolf at all. I'm not locking him town by any means, but he's clearly my top townread right now.

    SilverKeith -- Seems very towny but I know what he's capable of.

    roundbox -- seems OK but I really need to look closer because I don't have too much of a read on him.

    Iain -- needs to stop lurking but I'm detecting a ring of sincerity

    Moth -- no read yet but welcome to the thread. I had been worried about the possibility, however remote, of a Keith/SB scumteam, in which case I thought we were probably all screwed. Looks like we have our 3rd loud voice.

    (Zone if TL is town -- who the hell knows. Should policy lynched him when we had the chance.)

    (Captain Video if TL is town)

    Marshmallow -- at some point I need to list all the posts I've mindmelded with him on. I completely agreed with his stance on Zone, for instance. On the other hand, he keeps scumreading me for no clear reason. And if he and CV are both town, then the KZA wagon was entirely pure (unless SK is scum, and his vote movement at EoD suggests he isn't scum with TL).

    SmartBomb -- I have my doubts here. Possibly because he spent a lot of yesterday shading me. Most likely wolf in the towncore.

    TSP -- had a good feeling most of yesterday but EoD was definitely strange.

    Sheppard -- ISOed on the phone while loosely supervising my kid's playdate today. I dunno. There are a lot of things I find off, but I think it could be culture clash. He got frustrated yesterday at me "scumreading him all day" based on one thing; his easy townread of me. Which I think is fair. It would be more accurate to say that I had no firm scumreads yesterday (which is pretty much how I roll d1), but that stuck in my mind. I only mentioned him when people specifically asked me for scumreads, I never voted for him or tried to make a case on him. If TL flips scum I think his EoD yesterday looks really pure. If not, he's shown nothing that indicates he shouldn't be in the PoE.

    (Captain Video if TL is scum)

    (Zone if TL is scum)

    Trustworthy Liberal is SCUUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!


    AXIS
    SK
    roundbox
    IainC
    moth
    Zone if TL is town
    CV if TL is town
    MM
    SB
    TSP
    Sheppard
    etcetc

    Hrm.

    Quinn keeps reading roundbox as vaguely townie (except for his GTH reads when we pressured him late Day 1, where he... suddenly has roundbox as mildly wolfy?) but always puts him on the "needs to ISO" burner. And then suddenly, when roundbox is outed, TMQ has no hesitation and just plonks his vote and crows about how we've caught a scum.

    I don't know how much weight I should put into this, this is similar to MM/TSP interactions. But it's a thing.
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    Sticky: Game Thread moth idk. If we're not lynching JOATs we...

    ##Vote moth

    idk. If we're not lynching JOATs we probably lynch here. But roundbox lynch, prolly.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Like OK if we live in a RB scum world we have ...

    Like OK if we live in a RB scum world we have

    JOATS
    TSP
    Captain Video

    Spewed out villa
    MM
    SK

    High tone villagers
    AXIS
    roro__b

    Weird interactions, probably gets lynched in this world cause we bash our heads against a wall and nothing sticks
    IainC

    Is this really it???? This doesn't feel right
    Quinn

    this is probably just scum regardless
    moth

    --

    I think if we look at this, I don't know if w!IainC is aware of this but IainC literally can't win if roundbox flips wolf and moth is his partner. It's dummy $#@! though, I don't think IainC is aware.

    That doesn't mean he autobusses. Idk.
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    Sticky: Game Thread The Mighty Quinn Where did Sheppard fit in...

    @The Mighty Quinn

    Where did Sheppard fit in your preliminary wall?
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    Sticky: Game Thread I think it's most likely RB/Moth. I could make up...

    I think it's most likely RB/Moth. I could make up a Vids world but. OK maybe if he's paired with SK. This is a stupid ass world.

    The third is... I'm unsure. Quinn has to be playing a very good scum game to make it this far with all this effort. His reaction to the claim was muted, he spent more time on IainC than he did thinking about the claim. So it's not like, a good reaction, but I can't say it's a bad reaction either.

    Doubts are creeping into my mind about SilverKeith but he never gets upset with either RB or Moth at separate points in the game.

    Can't think of anyone else that fits a trio though.

    Feel like we're going too hard on pairings though, just lynch wolves. But. Mm. I guess you're likely to die at some point, I suppose. Can't begrudge you your solve time.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ah yeah alright this has clarity. I've played...

    Quote Originally Posted by tonystarkprime (#3269)
    SB has gone to significant efforts to link MM to me and I’ve always brushed them off cause I figured I’d eventually claim JOAT and wouldn’t have to deal with them any more.
    Ah yeah alright this has clarity. I've played this game before.

    OK you're JOAT. Sorry about this. Let's move on.
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    Sticky: Game Thread This is so dumb, it's probably just roundbox. ...

    This is so dumb, it's probably just roundbox.

    Like a team is probably roundbox/moth/...idk. AXIS? I can't really get my head around it. IainC? IainC keeps following roundbox's statements like they're gospel or something, if roundbox is scum we probably lynch them for clarity but I don't think it's a hit.

    Captain Video is a mess. What sort of team could this be?

    And TSP is like. MM and IainC. I feel discomforted by this concept and I don't really want to touch it.

    Honestly. You're looking at me like I'm going back to TSP here. But no, my current is at Capt Video, lol. But yeah, probably just roundbox.

    Idk we should lynch the least villagery person in these claims? Or do we just lynch the least villagery person outside these claims, be cowards for the third day in a row and vote off IainC?

    $#@! lol. I'm sure a hard decision will be made while I'm asleep, maybe you'll hammer while I'm sleeping over this.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Where did I say in my last few posts that I...

    Where did I say in my last few posts that I thought roundbox was the wolf?
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    Sticky: Game Thread I specifically said you two were not w/w.

    I specifically said you two were not w/w.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ok but you're jumping here. Why do you believe RB...

    Ok but you're jumping here. Why do you believe RB over TSP? I didn't actually end with a conclusion of which one is the right claim.
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    Sticky: Game Thread You need to make a clear post on these claims,...

    You need to make a clear post on these claims, IainC. Enunciate which one you feel is correct, and why.
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    Sticky: Game Thread I don't get it either though as well. If tony is...

    I don't get it either though as well. If tony is the wolf, he gets lynched, then we chain into IainC, then what, we have two mislynches left? Is the pressure I put on MM -> tony that scary? Zero chance, imo. Who even survives two mislynches?

    Or tony sets up a lynch on roundbox, feels like he can duel with CV and doesn't nightkill him, and tries to mislynch him?

    11->9->7, we are in LYLO. But the most likely answer is just 11->9, lol. This doesn't feel like a winning play from tony.

    Maybe it's Vids. Idk. Vids handled his claim decently well, again, he doesn't need to claim a motion detect, but he did anyways. Things pointing here are the two nightkills. Well, one. If Vids was setting this up he could kill whoever and claim JOAT anyways.

    Mrrr. Lemme boot up my personal VCA machine? It probably won't tell me anything but.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Idk if this is trauma speaking but. I think....

    Idk if this is trauma speaking but.

    I think. roundbox is sounding very spookily similar to Trustworthy Liberal. And I'm having flashbacks. And I don't like it.

    It's the whole question. Typical to mafia games. An unstoppable force; that would be scum bussing three times in a row. You don't believe it. But then you have just villagery behaviour under pressure. And something has to give.

    It's the same here. For both TSP and CV, the mechanics of how their claims would be fake are very stupid to think about. And yet... roundbox's claim and behaviour does give me pause. The N2 doc on me is just very stupid. Using a doc on N2. And also using a doc on me on N2.

    And the vibe just feels like villager caught. I'm scratching my head.
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    Sticky: Game Thread I'm running out of posts. Not sure how much I can...

    I'm running out of posts. Not sure how much I can add.

    Here are my vague thoughts about where I want to go given what's just happened:

    - CV wolf. I find this just incredibly hard to believe. Maybe the wolf team knew roundbox was a JOAT and just took a bet, but it seems very unlikely. We can, in poker terms, level for the unlikely chance CV is holding pocket aces. But this is a stupid road to go down on and I don't really feel like anything CV has done has pointed this way. I want to hold on to my CV villageread from earlier anyways.

    - TSP wolf. Here's what I don't get and I hate harping on the same damn horse over and over again. I've done the work, if TSP is a wolf, MM is a wolf. TSP/MM are inextricably linked and TSP outing is not only dumb for his towncred, it's also dumb for the two people remaining who are locked in a TSP/MM world, cause it solves the game pretty well for us.

    If TSP isn't with MM and is an independent wolf, like, maybe. But that means uhm, who. I'm not really sure.

    Anyways let's get out of blinker territory cause like, that's all just patently ridiculous. The gameplan for w!TSP here is to mislynch roundbox, kill CV (cause there's no way in hell he's getting lynched lol) and lolcat. This still leaves us with a buffer of one mislynch and we're pretty set. So I don't know why tony does this, he's not under real pressure and he doesn't collapse here.

    Idk. How tony handled the claim from CV's claim up till now is decently JOATy. I'm willing to believe this.

    - roundbox wolf. This is obviously the easiest world and I'm not so shocked about roundbox carrying the kill now, it seems logical if roundbox is trying to soft JOAT. If he gets MD'd, it's the safest place.

    roundbox feels caught, but I don't really want to put stock in it. Things like suggesting everyone lives another night is kinda weird cause he's not thinking that hard and not thinking TSP is a wolf. But I'm not sure. That's very prescriptive.

    roundbox's actions are very HOYA theoremable, and if you don't know what that is, listen. Doccing me is a stupid action, why would he fakeclaim that? It's... not right, how does that work, as mafia you KNOW I'm getting set up as a suspect, why in the world would you claim to doc me, it's stupid? The better thing is that roundbox clearly didn't know I was getting set up coming in today, so that definitely correlates. Like if he's setting his claim up before he enters he shouldn't claim a doc on me. Why does he ever claim he used a doc anyways? Cause of a roro post? Does he take notice of that as a wolf and is he slowly setting up a claim? Or is he just the JOAT making the claim?

    I'm... decent with mechanics. Now that I'm writing this out this is triggering all my alarm bells. This doesn't feel right.

    The most ironic thing is that the biggest thing speaking to roundbox's innocence is... this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by IainC (#3101)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall (#3096)


    But what about the JOATs? Take a stance on that, please.
    I believe CV's claim for now. It seems like a weird risk to take for scum in a game where scum are winning 4-0 so far.

    As for TSP/RB. I'm not sold on Tony's take but RB is making sense. If you put a gun to my head I'd probably pick RB as the most likely but I want to read more.
    I think overall IainC has been widely pocketed by roundbox and the way he treats roundbox isn't indicative of a mafia partner, so we should write this down for future use. But like. If roundbox is a villager, this ia a very TMI take that didn't get too much attention. And it feels like a TMI take.


    Mmm. I've written this post but. Uhm.

    I kinda want to ignore claims and lynch IainC, lol. I can't make a decision with these three, I keep typing out roundbox v reasons and I'm outlevelling myself. IainC might actually be correct here, lol.
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    Sticky: Game Thread My point is you set up a scenario where we let...

    Quote Originally Posted by roundbox (#3232)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3230)
    Ok. But the thing is, to me there's not really a reason to try and mechanically solve anything. If I was in your position, TSP is scum, locked. I don't need an extra night to answer that.
    there's more than one member of the scum team?
    I know when I flip that my perspective will be seen as town
    I'm hoping people can get some value of that
    My point is you set up a scenario where we let all three of you live and SK got mad at the illogic.

    My point is, why even bother? TSP is scum. How can you make a case for Video W?
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    Sticky: Game Thread CAN WE NOT HAMMER THIS PLEASE. SOMEONE UNVOTE

    CAN WE NOT HAMMER THIS PLEASE. SOMEONE UNVOTE
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ok. But the thing is, to me there's not really a...

    Ok. But the thing is, to me there's not really a reason to try and mechanically solve anything. If I was in your position, TSP is scum, locked. I don't need an extra night to answer that.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Moth, please unvote right now.

    Moth, please unvote right now.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ok. I find it strange why you didn't re-evaluate...

    Ok. I find it strange why you didn't re-evaluate when my pet push flipped town.

    Roundbox here's the deal. There's scum in here. We need the flip. And I really don't think it's Video.

    Circumstances point to you. But if you are town, it doesn't even matter to me cause this is a 1-for-1 trade and this is fine to me. We have the mislynch to spare.

    That's where I'm at.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Not gonna lie I find it hard to believe you doc...

    Not gonna lie I find it hard to believe you doc me over SK. Can you sell this?
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    Sticky: Game Thread Oh I'm a $#@!ing dumbass how did I miss this. ...

    Quote Originally Posted by roro__b (#2140)
    Lemme just post a thinky thought on JOAT-actions as well

    Haven't followed all the other games very closely, but if I've interpreted discussions correctly, using doc ability on d3 is consensus the best, right? But you can't use the same ability on two consecutive nights, so.... To ninja los scummos, how about having it an alternative using doc on night 2, and then then after the d3 JOAT outing (yes d3!) there'll be another doccing for the next night so rip scum? Ie JOAT could be open with anything that catches scum because 1 for 1 trade is awesome, and also that doc has been used, but not if it was N2 or N3. Would sort of mean scum would have to gamble the NK if they want to shoot into JOATs after d3. Worth thinking about, especially as N2 is approaching. I haven't thought this through in detail, but think it's worth mentioning to see if I'm missing something.
    Oh I'm a $#@!ing dumbass how did I miss this.

    Roro. You can doc twice in a row. You just can't doc the same person twice in a row.
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    Sticky: Game Thread roro__b I know you're busy catching up but if you...

    @roro__b I know you're busy catching up but if you have time can you restate what optimal JOAT actions are, as you stated in the thread?
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    Sticky: Game Thread And more importantly, why did you doc N2.

    And more importantly, why did you doc N2.
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    Sticky: Game Thread No I mean. Who did you doc N2.

    No I mean. Who did you doc N2.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Roundbox. Say you track TSP. TSP dies. ...

    Roundbox.

    Say you track TSP.

    TSP dies.

    Congrats, you now know CV is a wolf. What now?

    Swap out TSP/CV for each and you get the problem.
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    Sticky: Game Thread I mean regardless of his alignment roundbox is...

    I mean regardless of his alignment roundbox is panicking. I can let this go as not a perspective slip.
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    Sticky: Game Thread If that's it then that's ok, you made it sound...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3173)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3170)
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3166)
    What you're telling here isn't going to happen.

    If you're actually the joat you should be aware of this.
    You've been 100% correct so far but you've lost me here.
    If RB is the joat.

    He claimed that he doesn't have protect left.

    In this hypothetical scenario, scum would just kill CV or TSP, whichever of one is the actual Joat.

    Then we will get here into D4 with one of CV/TSP and RB.

    Rb will claim that they got a track/md onto them, obviously, doesn't really matter.
    If that's it then that's ok, you made it sound like RB doesn't know his own role. You're correct. Charitable answer is that roundbox doesn't know this either, it's not like he inherently knows this as the joat.
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    Sticky: Game Thread You've been 100% correct so far but you've lost...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3166)
    What you're telling here isn't going to happen.

    If you're actually the joat you should be aware of this.
    You've been 100% correct so far but you've lost me here.
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    Sticky: Game Thread I'm busy so I can't reply to much, RB. Idk what...

    I'm busy so I can't reply to much, RB. Idk what to say to you tbh.
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    Sticky: Game Thread If CV literally claims a MD when he doesn't need...

    If CV literally claims a MD when he doesn't need to and it just randomly hits one of the two JOATs I think this would be the peak of this champs season. We don't need semis or finals. The season's over.
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    Sticky: Game Thread My position is that if you have a JOAT claim in a...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3138)
    I'm pretty sure it's just roundbox here.

    I'm considering the fact that I won't lynch him because is the correct mech thing to do.

    I recall SB and Bear having a discussion on weather it was correct or not to lynch the joat claim and I don't recall who was arguing for what.

    Which is problematic cause I was thinking about making a meme for it but I can't if I get $#@! wrong.
    My position is that if you have a JOAT claim in a vacuum that's just really Wolfy, you should just lynch it instead of faffing about.

    Other, more sane people will tell you to let the JOAT live cause of lost ability equity.
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    Sticky: Game Thread There is a world where Tony lynches roundbox,...

    There is a world where Tony lynches roundbox, then CV, and then we move into LYLO. That's the only +EV world for Tony. But I should not have my blinkers on. This is a dumb attempt.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ok I'm getting excited that I actually had the...

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3129)
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3124)
    Quote Originally Posted by tonystarkprime (#3120)
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKeith (#3114)
    Is... the correct thing to do here to just let $#@! solve itself and not lynch any of the claims?
    I mean... maybe? I think we proceed as if it's RB but maybe we don't need to Lynch there today.
    Hmmm....

    Then we just try to find partners for RB here?
    JUST FOR THE RECORD

    If RB is scum, this wouldn't have happened if we had followed Sb plan.

    Because everyone would've claimed beforehand so he would've claimed VT prolly which would've mean we got a scum 100%

    I mean I kinda thought both joats were prolly going to be outted today anyways ¿?¿?

    Anyway read my wall the next time my dudess thankyouverymuch.
    Ok I'm getting excited that I actually had the right plan am I reading this wrong
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    Sticky: Game Thread TSP's claim timing is only suspicious cause I'm...

    TSP's claim timing is only suspicious cause I'm still looking at it with residual bias. He could have just, not claimed.

    I also don't think he wins a cc battle with CV, ever. I find it very unlikely.

    The thing is with lynching outside is that we feel kinda lost right now aiming outside without knowing which wolf is in the JOATs. And mathematically it's worse chances to hit outside the JOAT claims anyways.

    Also like, either it's roundbox or its Tony to me. It's never CV. Which means this is really lynch-for-lynch, and given how this gamestate has played out, it's probably just RB.

    Idk may need to think about it.
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    Sticky: Game Thread roundbox, what do you have to say in your...

    roundbox, what do you have to say in your defense?

    From your perspective either CV binked one of the most brutal 1 in 4s when he really didn't actually need to, he could've claimed JOAT and walked off.

    Or Tony is saccing himself for 2 JOATs when the game is still going strong for his alignment, the wolves.

    If you have an explanation for this...?
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    Sticky: Game Thread It's just, this is the most consensus null slot...

    Quote Originally Posted by tonystarkprime (#3081)
    Roundbox carrying the kill makes easy sense in teams composed of

    RB
    Iain
    Quinn
    Moth?

    And RB carrying the kill is an explainable option in teams containing explaining one of
    AXIS
    SK
    SB
    Roro.

    So really I don't think RB carrying the kill would rule out much of anything.
    It's just, this is the most consensus null slot in the game that could definitely get to endgame, you're putting your eggs in this basket?

    I'm just amused, not shocked.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Vaguely gonna guess that roundbox was always...

    Vaguely gonna guess that roundbox was always setting up for a JOAT claim which was why he could get md'd and maaaybe answer a cc battle.

    What does W!Tony even do here? Lynch a JOAT, kill the other JOAT, and die? That's a huge moral boost for us tbh, we're looking for a wolf to start with, and we still have a mislynch left until LYLO. And Tony's the wrong one to do this. As much as I'd like to, I really can't see it.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Nah you played it right. I just have ideas.

    Quote Originally Posted by tonystarkprime (#3067)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3061)
    If Tony was holding the claim for pressure, which was my read, and not that he was claiming JOAT, roundbox is never the correct lynch. Someone will have to cc him to change my mind. So Tony, $#@! or get off the pot, cause the implication from your last post is that you aren't the JOAT.

    Any hiding JOAT should also cc right now.
    What information has led you to come to this conclusion? I don't think I played this exactly right but I certainly haven't been /too/ coy about my information.
    Nah you played it right. I just have ideas.
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    Sticky: Game Thread I would genuinely like to see the scumchat where...

    I would genuinely like to see the scumchat where they decided having roundbox carry the kill was a good idea. Like, why.

    I'm also kind of shocked that we actually got a motion detect off. Not just a track, but a motion detect.

    Jesus Christ.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ok then. This is irritating. I enjoy being...

    Ok then.

    This is irritating. I enjoy being wrong I suppose.
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    Sticky: Game Thread If Tony was holding the claim for pressure, which...

    If Tony was holding the claim for pressure, which was my read, and not that he was claiming JOAT, roundbox is never the correct lynch. Someone will have to cc him to change my mind. So Tony, $#@! or get off the pot, cause the implication from your last post is that you aren't the JOAT.

    Any hiding JOAT should also cc right now.
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    Sticky: Game Thread TSP, hard cc or stop.

    TSP, hard cc or stop.
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    Sticky: Game Thread No.

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#3051)
    Quote Originally Posted by roundbox (#3048)
    Did TSP claim? I read the SB mention and CVs post
    He did indeed.



    Any actions to claim while we are at this?
    No.
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    Sticky: Game Thread Ok. tonystarkprime are you rescinding or...

    Ok.

    @tonystarkprime are you rescinding or keeping your claim?
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    Sticky: Game Thread ngl Quinn I thought you were the other JOAT. Call...

    ngl Quinn I thought you were the other JOAT. Call back later, just trying to sort things out right now. Don't want to lynch you today either way.
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    Sticky: Game Thread lets play slightly contrarian cause tsp's in the...

    lets play slightly contrarian cause tsp's in the charge role this time

    in what world does a team with roundbox on it get roundbox to carry the kill
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    Sticky: Game Thread just put me in the PoE tho if roundbox is scum...

    just put me in the PoE tho if roundbox is scum I'm getting really tired of trying to be right and just being very, very wrong
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    Sticky: Game Thread I don't think roro is scum. Can explain later but...

    I don't think roro is scum. Can explain later but while I was working I was shuffling my townreads and roro actually ended up on top above everyone else.

    Could be moth. I. Suppose. Big yikes. Ugh.
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    Sticky: Game Thread I don't want to talk about what Tony just said...

    I don't want to talk about what Tony just said fwiw. It gives roundbox extra options.
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