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  1. Day 1#289

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Pinging those who have less than 5 posts: ...

    Pinging those who have less than 5 posts:

    @CatgirlMaple
    @mtamburini
    @REE

    Come play with us, we won't bite!!! Well... 13 of us, anyway!!!!



    For those who are around and haven't voted yet, I encourage you to put a vote down; you are always free to change it later, and it helps us get a measure of where your head is at!! Not to mention it making Vote Count Analysis (VCA) very useful later on in the game!!!

    I'll be out for the most part, or rather, just sporadic until the end of the day when the post limit is lifted; it would be nice to start consolidating wagons as we move into the second half of the day!!
  2. Day 1#285

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Do people want to talk about Seththeking a bit?...

    Do people want to talk about Seththeking a bit? I'm not really getting the townreads there...

    Thus far.. his posts lack substance to them; yes, he seemed to do some good stuff really early on, I suppose? He has 3 townreads, one which is an activity, and then resorted to merely voting low-posters; not really feeling the towniness here and would like to see more of!!


    REE I'm shrug at; why pick out the Chemist wagon? What about the Jackofhearts wagon, which is top wagon? I talked about my Chemist read earlier, personally, and so did Alice!


    RedFlavor is shrug; not someone I'd townread, but not someone I'm actively suspecting either; in my pile of people I'd be fine with lynching today/would CFD, though!!!


    AngryPotato trending upwards!!
  3. Day 1#283

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Hmm... I wouldn't really say that I have reads on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#270)
    I Multi ISO'd the confrontation between seththeking and insomnia. It seems mostly like a town on town fight to me. Let me explain why.

    The reasons both of them gave when they thought the other person was scum was pretty realistic. It is true that low posters can be mislynched but i doubt that any low poster would make exceptionally scummy posts but it would also be expected that they are lurking.
    insomnia does seem a bit defensive and seththeking was not very tight at the start of the game. Reason i think insomnia is defensive is because seth literally made a joke post about low posters being most easiest to mislynch (which is true) but then insomnia thought that seth was attacking them, i've seen seth's previous games and they behaved literally the same as in this game (making joke posts and simply trying to slightly push). Both seem town because they are trying very hard to scumread one another it seems, and this means that they are trying to contribute.
    Therefore, seth and insom both seem town.
    However, seth does seem more town than insom because of their playstyles, as i mentioned above.

    Don't take my reads for granted because they could be deepwolfing and i don't want to make us misled by my possibly misleading reads. Alternatively, they could staged confrontations but i doubt it.

    Tell me what you think about their interactions please.
    Hmm... I wouldn't really say that I have reads on them from that interaction in particular!!

    Insomnia's probably still my top town for various reasons that I've already talked about, even more so with their most recent posts!!! Seth... still not someone I've really noticed? Which I'll do so shortly!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#272)
    I see how I sounded pocketing. But I was clear before Insomnia talked about opportunist, that I too suspected WWS.


    Something in this meta I don’t understand: Why are some of you fishing town reads?

    The scum want town reads so they know who to kill, since they don't want to shoot someone that the village will hang anyway.

    I personally look for town reads and use process of elimination to find the scum, that's how I play. But I don’t fish anyone elses good reads, since if everyone agrees on someone being good, that will just be an easy lynch for the Mafia.
    Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you; what do you mean in particular by "fishing town reads"?

    Using PoE to figure out who the mafia are is fairly common here, or at least it is among the best town players, anyway!!

    Incidentally, I have a feeling that's what I'm going to struggle with the most in this game, with being able to townread lower posters enough to pull them outside of the PoE... which is why people posting more helps!!!

    Anyways, you're doing a pretty decent job at getting yourself out of there thus far, which is very useful!!
  4. Day 1#267

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread You're starting to bleed town a little here!! :p...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#266)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#257)
    Interesting; can you go a bit into how you moved Alice and myself into townreads, Wisdom? Have been liking your contributions thus far; felt fairly genuine in a way that's generally pretty difficult to replicate as mafia!!!

    Going to go into my previous Tartina read, before I forget:
    • She seemed overly self-conscious about her not defensiveness in 46 in a weird way
    • Following post reads also felt blunt in a way that was :/ and didn't really feel like there was thought behind them!


    However, she's trended upwards since then; while there really wasn't much pressure, I did like the confidence in her responding that I'd find her as town later on... and I'm hoping that's now!! She has also given some nice takes on the gamestate that I've liked!!

    Going to get into my townreads more now though!
    Alice checked up on Seth in a state where he would otherwise be lynched (I thought at the moment, at least). People called her town and then she went quiet. This in itself would make me call her scum, and maybe even trying to protect a scum pal, in this case Seth. But. She came back, stopped focusing on Seth and contributed in new different ways. Seeing how the town already saw her as good, she didn't need to do that, making her town in my book. Scum don't do stuff they don't need to, in my experience.

    In your case, Ara, it's about your curiousness. In my eyes you try to find information in a really good way. Even if you actually are scum, you're still helping the village, but I think that you are town despite the warnings.

    Insomnia - Can you explain "pocketed"? I don’t understand. Either way, my list is for day 1. I will reset if I get to live for another day.
    You're starting to bleed town a little here!!

    I like the gamestate read on Alice; feels decently solid from your perspective!!!

    Pocketing is generally when someone intentionally tries to get someone else to townread them!! Usually mafia trying to pocket town, but you can also get town pocketing town too!!!

    By the way, this terminology thread might help you out a bit; has quite a few definitions of terms which you may find handy!!
  5. Day 1#265

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread I'm not really sure what to think of WaywardSon...

    I'm not really sure what to think of WaywardSon at the moment, with how he's been posting; it's been weird reading reactions to his catchup because like...

    It feels like people tended to just see words and think town, but like, why? What in particular about his catchup was towny, why do you think it was coming from a mindset which is necessarily town and not mafia?

    They were certainly walls; however, and maybe it's just me, but they were merely catchups that I don't really feel are overly particularly alignment-indicative either way - it did not feel like there was necessarily substance in them that felt towny!!!

    In total, while I feel it does warrant a tiny bit of town cred for actually being here and doing stuff, it's maybe just 1 town cred*, not the 4 town creds which seemed to be dropped on him!!


    *Author's note: Town cred system may or may not be entirely made up!
  6. Day 1#262

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Can you elaborate on WWS? What in particular...

    Quote Originally Posted by Angrypotato (#253)
    Just did a brief catch up on everyone.

    I like the tone WWS is posting in his recent posts in this game. I thought they feel very towny in my perspective.

    Isonmia feels town too. After isoing him, I felt that his posts come from a town perspective and his emotions are geniune.

    Wisdom also felt townish but i will peg her underneath insomia.

    I have to admit that i am on the fence with Ara this game tbh. I have seeen ara play before and she is a player that can sound very convincing as wolf. Nvertheless,I woule not be in favor in lynching her today but her lack of extreme towniness feel is making me look at her closely.
    Can you elaborate on WWS? What in particular about his posts did you find towny?
  7. Day 1#257

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Interesting; can you go a bit into how you moved...

    Interesting; can you go a bit into how you moved Alice and myself into townreads, Wisdom? Have been liking your contributions thus far; felt fairly genuine in a way that's generally pretty difficult to replicate as mafia!!!

    Going to go into my previous Tartina read, before I forget:
    • She seemed overly self-conscious about her not defensiveness in 46 in a weird way
    • Following post reads also felt blunt in a way that was :/ and didn't really feel like there was thought behind them!


    However, she's trended upwards since then; while there really wasn't much pressure, I did like the confidence in her responding that I'd find her as town later on... and I'm hoping that's now!! She has also given some nice takes on the gamestate that I've liked!!

    Going to get into my townreads more now though!
  8. Day 1#246

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread My point was more that voting people doesn't...

    Quote Originally Posted by tartina (#243)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#241)
    Quote Originally Posted by Seththeking (#240)
    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#239)
    Sorry seth, for me the game starts at 11pm and i had school assembly which skipped over the breaks so i could not post. This is the only post i can make because it is 1:58 where i am at and lunch ends at 2:00pm.
    I"m not lurking, confrontation between you and insomnia was weird. Will return in 2 hours.
    Next!
    ##Vote CatgirlMaple
    Hey Seth!! Why do you feel like voting a 0-poster is the best use of your vote? Do you think they will simply not come to the thread at all if you don't vote them? What do you think of the current wagon formation, who do you think is town, who do you think is mafia, what's the kitchen sink?

    Voting a 0-poster is a cop-out at this point in the game when we're already nearly halfway through day 1, so It'd be nice to see what your thoughts on the game in general are, in short!!!
    I totally agree with your thought on voting inactives ones on the First day. They are not going to pop up of we tag them.
    But looks like that if Seth tag them, they pop up, let's see if catgirl comes here! (Joking)
    My point was more that voting people doesn't notify them; mentioning them does, however!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#244)
    Okay, so I just spent 45 minutes answering, then I got logged out and everything disappeared. I feel quite disheartened now.

    In short.

    I fell asleep.
    Zero posters should hang.
    My biggest scum read right now is WWS.

    I will try to rewrite everything, but seeing so much progress lost took a lot of energy so it will have to wait.
    A few things that might be helpful:

    If you're not already, I'd recommending checking the Remember Me box when logging in; that ensures that you won't get logged out again after 10 minutes!! Also if you're typing a post for long enough, it'll get Auto-Saved in the field for wards, and a Restore Auto-Saved Content button will pop up if there's content that was saved!!! Might not be relevant now, but may be useful in the future!!!

    There's also a Notepad feature (which is actually really recent and I'm in love!) that you can open by the pen in the top right, and you can actively save stuff if you're writing a really long post!!!!! Personally I use it to keep my readlist up to date and other notes, but you can use it for anything, really!!!

    Anyways, I'm pretty interested in your WWS read; I have vague thoughts on him which I should probably put into words, but it's interesting to see a disagreement with all the town reads that have been going down on him!!
  9. Day 1#245

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Interesting; why do you think my vote was RVS,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#228)
    Alice is voting me for voting LHF when one of the votes was RVS, and the other was for perceived TMI that's gone completely ignored

    Okay
    Interesting; why do you think my vote was RVS, when I'd mentioned thinking she was mafia a few times?
  10. Day 1#241

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Hey Seth!! Why do you feel like voting a 0-poster...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seththeking (#240)
    Quote Originally Posted by Impeaceful (#239)
    Quote Originally Posted by Seththeking (#235)
    Hopefully if I vote on one of the zero posters they will start actually making content like Insomnia is doing.
    ##Vote Impeaceful
    Sorry seth, for me the game starts at 11pm and i had school assembly which skipped over the breaks so i could not post. This is the only post i can make because it is 1:58 where i am at and lunch ends at 2:00pm.
    I"m not lurking, confrontation between you and insomnia was weird. Will return in 2 hours.
    Next!
    ##Vote CatgirlMaple
    Hey Seth!! Why do you feel like voting a 0-poster is the best use of your vote? Do you think they will simply not come to the thread at all if you don't vote them? What do you think of the current wagon formation, who do you think is town, who do you think is mafia, what's the kitchen sink?

    Voting a 0-poster is a cop-out at this point in the game when we're already nearly halfway through day 1, so It'd be nice to see what your thoughts on the game in general are, in short!!!
  11. Day 1#237

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Guess the thread died down a bit!!! Looked...

    Guess the thread died down a bit!!! Looked through the posts, a few of which I'll get to shortly!! I figured I'd make better use of my time/posts updating my reads/readlist versus responding individually to everything (though I still intend to go back and poke at a few posts), so you get an updated readlist (alphabetized within ties):

    Light towns

    Alice Liddell
    insomnia - Top town for various reasons, most confident read at the moment!! Namely, their pursuing of a thought on Jackofhearts in a particularly towny way; felt like the sort of town where you have a thought/read/push and can't shake yourself loose from it! I'm decently familiar with that path and it's one which I've been actively trying not to do lately; however, the expression there is in an extremely familiar towny fashion!! Appreciate you spreading your focus, by the way!
    Underking - Tentatively? -shrug- I'm fine with doing this for the moment, liked something near the end of his interaction with Insomnia!

    Slight towns, new tier
    Jackofhearts2005
    Wisdom
    - Liked some depth of thought in 201!! However, second readthrough was a bit ??? because... you have 1 townread and 3 neutral reads, which is a little ??? Note to self to return to that post, but fight me, I still lowkey like it!!! They're my lightest town just because I'm generally not particularly confident about reading people newer to forum mafia, but with how they've been going along lately, I'm rather optimistic about getting a good read there!!
    WaywardSon - Slightly towny because I don't want to lynch him today, but I don't really read him that towny? I'll probably go into this with a different post!

    Nulls
    RedFlavor - Posted just enough for me to notice him, not enough to form any sort of meaningful read!
    Seththeking - Similar to RedFlavour, but with more of a "pending" flavour!!
    tartina - Not really null, but I don't feel confident about moving her up into a townlean yet either; she's done just enough for me to not want to lynch her the most right now, though!

    Slightly suspect

    Chemist1422 - Would say underwhelming; that sheep of me onto Tartina was weird, especially when I had definitely not expanded into my reasoning for why I voted her!! While I did read the post he made explaining it, it's still... ?? Are you not interested in keeping tabs on specifically who made reasoning that you liked, and who you're sheeping? A bit regardless of alignment, but still!!!

    Also I like this wagon better anyway so:

    ##Vote Chemist1422

    Angrypotato
    CatgirlMaple
    Egix96
    Impeaceful
    mtamburini
    REE




    Since the thread is basically dead for some reason, which is weird...? I'll just post this and get some more thoughts over the next few hours!!!

    I also just realized that I didn't actually end up going into why I suspected Tartina before I left, which I was going to do; will get into that shortly!!

    As an aside, I'm actively working on trying to improve my formatting on making my readlists more readable, as I know I tend to put in a lot of words; I'm trying out bolding/italicizing/underlining tier titles, which I guess makes them stand out from names in tiers? I do really want to get into colorcoding them though at some point, which will hopefully make it even better, but any feedback is welcome!!
  12. Postgame#10

    Thread: Super Shot

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    Completed Noting for future reference that the error in...

    Noting for future reference that the error in this rand was made due to an incorrect time being input, not a bot error!
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    Completed Congratulations mafia, nicely manipulated!!! Well...

    Congratulations mafia, nicely manipulated!!! Well played to town as well; was some very hype play overall!!!
  14. Day 1#188

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Hi there Wisdom, welcome to forum mafia and MU!!!...

    Hi there Wisdom, welcome to forum mafia and MU!!! What sort of previous mafia experience do you have? You mentioned IRL, which is pretty cool!!

    What are your reads on Seth and Insomnia, in that case?

    PL stands for Policy Lynch!!

    Looking forward to playing with you and hearing your thoughts!!!


    Unrelated, I'm actually off for a few hours, now; while I usually post a lot, I burned through those posts even faster than I thought!!
  15. Day 1#185

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Seriously? I said other people, meaning people...

    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#182)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#179)
    The not-tunneling today applies to you too, Jack!!! Watching two people tunnel each other is boring and not particularly useful, especially when it's done in a particularly v/v way like this is, and it would be nice to see you guys talk about other people while we're here!!
    Give me one reason Jack is town here.
    Seriously? I said other people, meaning people who aren't the two of you!!!

    He's towny because of the way he gathered up the gamestate to derive reads from it early on in 81; that's enough for me to put him in tentative town now, anyway! I also personally think that he's not the type to start off with a large amount of posts consisting solely of emotes as mafia... but that's just my personal extremely light read, and isn't one I'm putting much stock in!

    Now, let's talk about other people!! Seriously, I don't understand where you read that tunneling someone and focusing exclusively on them is good town play; I'm pretty that isn't in anything I've sent, anyway! Let's make it easy: what are your thoughts on the other two people on your wagon? What about the current counterwagon, and the people on that one?
  16. Day 1#184

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread *raises an eyebrow* Precisely what reasoning...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#181)
    ##Vote tartina

    Even if we disregard the above TMI, I think Ara’s reasoning holds up well

    (on a side note, light game does not mean post 30 times in 4 hours. chill a little, guys.)
    *raises an eyebrow*

    Precisely what reasoning of mine on Tartina did you like? As in, which post(s)?

    I already said I'm doing most of my posting early on, but fair enough; I'll chill for a few hours or so and be back later!!
  17. Day 1#179

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread The not-tunneling today applies to you too,...

    The not-tunneling today applies to you too, Jack!!! Watching two people tunnel each other is boring and not particularly useful, especially when it's done in a particularly v/v way like this is, and it would be nice to see you guys talk about other people while we're here!!
  18. Day 1#178

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread The post restriction bit wasn't in the game...

    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#172)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#171)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#170)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#168)
    Insomnia doesn’t believe in his push on me. I caught 2 wolves with this in BSG.

    He’s lock wolf.

    What does it mean that Tartina has at mentioned me fourish times. Uh...new phone who dis? ������
    Why do you think he doesn't believe his push?
    Cause it’s too pedantic to be sure I’m scum.

    Still leaning on that policy lynch idea that is so wolfy. Like “Jack knowingly burned 20 of his posts saying nothing” except I said a lot and 16 of those posts came before the post restriction was added. He doesn’t believe that. Nobody could believe that.
    The definition of a light game is post restriction.

    You have an april 2016 joining date

    Lynch all liars.
    The post restriction bit wasn't in the game thread before the announcement, and it's not an unreasonable assumption to make that it wasn't on!

    Can you do me a favour and not just tunnel here today? If it isn't clear yet, I think you're v/v, and you have a tendency to tunnel people in a way that takes over the thread in a way which isn't particularly useful!!

    Let's talk about some other people! What does your readlist look like currently?
  19. Day 1#173

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Meh, I can see how it'd be believed; I was...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#171)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#170)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#168)
    Insomnia doesn’t believe in his push on me. I caught 2 wolves with this in BSG.

    He’s lock wolf.

    What does it mean that Tartina has at mentioned me fourish times. Uh...new phone who dis? ������
    Why do you think he doesn't believe his push?
    Cause it’s too pedantic to be sure I’m scum.

    Still leaning on that policy lynch idea that is so wolfy. Like “Jack knowingly burned 20 of his posts saying nothing” except I said a lot and 16 of those posts came before the post restriction was added. He doesn’t believe that. Nobody could believe that.
    Meh, I can see how it'd be believed; I was personally mildly surprised that you were doing that with a post restriction, but it does make sense if you didn't realize there was one!!!

    Personally, I've been internally referring to this game as "that light game" for the past week, so...
  20. Day 1#170

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Why do you think he doesn't believe his push?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#168)
    Insomnia doesn’t believe in his push on me. I caught 2 wolves with this in BSG.

    He’s lock wolf.

    What does it mean that Tartina has at mentioned me fourish times. Uh...new phone who dis? ������
    Why do you think he doesn't believe his push?
  21. Day 1#169

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Readlist time!!! Who's down for a readlist? This...

    Readlist time!!! Who's down for a readlist? This are sorted alphabetically within tiers:

    Light towns:
    Alice Liddell
    Jackofhearts2005
    insomnia
    Underking - Tentatively? -shrug- I'm fine with doing this for the moment, liked something near the end of his interaction with Insomnia!


    Nulls:
    RedFlavor - Posted just enough for me to notice him, not enough to form any sort of meaningful read!
    Seththeking - Similar to RedFlavour, but with more of a "pending" flavour!!

    My current vote:
    tartina




    Angrypotato
    CatgirlMaple
    Chemist1422
    Egix96
    Impeaceful
    mtamburini
    REE
    WaywardSon
    Wisdom


    It does bother me that my readlist feels very sort by postcount!!! For anyone who may not know, sort by postcount is the mafia theory where mafia tend to post less... it does exist for a reason though, and it's accurate to an extent!!

    Thinking about it, though, this does feel like a bit of a sort by postcount-type game! Due to the nature of it being a light game there's going to be some amount of town not posting that much, which makes it easy for mafia to hide within them, and they tend to go with what's easier! In any case, I'm fine with leaving it like this for now; I don't particularly see the need to pull out any tinfoil today!!!

    Hint: mafia, this is me telling you that if you want a townread, you're going to have to work for it!!
  22. Day 1#166

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Reads can be bad with their thought processes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#165)
    P#114 insomnia said it was an "actually good read", so we may have misunderstood each other.
    Reads can be bad with their thought processes still being good in a towny sense, but yeah!!
  23. Day 1#164

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Okay, let's unpack this!! So it seems like you...

    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#154)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#152)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#143)
    The only time jackofhearts posts is when his thought process isn't even consistent and his reads don't make any sense.

    We were told this is a light game by Empoof in the thread and jack has 18 posts out of 20 where he has posted emojis.

    I don't get the town reads on him. Wasting posts when you're well aware 50 posts is the limit is not town behaviour.
    Can you elaborate on the bolded? How have his reads been inconsistent? Which of his reads do you think not make sense and why?

    Most importantly, do you think they're necessarily coming from the mindset of someone who is mafia, or simply town who could be thinking from a different perspective from you? Remember, having not explicit thought process can be pretty towny because it implies undercurrents of town thought; personally, it's when someone has perfectly-consistent process that don't really deviate from their norm when I start to get concerned!!

    Depends on what you call wasting; sometimes people just... want to fun, you know?
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#89)
    Quote Originally Posted by Seththeking (#18)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#17)
    post
    Low Post = Lack Contribution = Weak Player = Potential PL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seththeking (#52)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#51)
    How would you react if someone said you are the easiest policy based on one entry post. He essentially isolated me from everyone else because I didn't make any jokes.
    What?
    When did I say your the easiest PL?
    I said people that have low activity posts have the most chance to be miss Lynched for being a weak player/PL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#81)
    You wanna know a secret?

    Without fail, scum will try to mislynch players for gimmick posting, often under the pretense of policy lynches or forcing a player to “do something” or because that player is being “annoying.”

    Tartina has the most problems with my posting and she sees me as an “easy mislynch” which is funny because a townie doesn’t look for easy mislynches on the first few pages of the game or ever. Mindset read. This is a wolf slot.

    Insomnia sees Seth as LHF and pushed there hoping for a mislynch. Wolf slot. Easy peasy.



    Congrats, RVS is over by page 2. Let’s hang the wolves and call it a day.
    Okay, let's unpack this!!

    So it seems like you think that according to Jack's metric that he mentioned regarding mafia looking for easy mislynches, he should be suspecting Seth too? First of all, Seth wasn't exactly calling anyone a mislynch so... a bit of a moot point!

    The way I view it is that Jack's using multiple ways to look at/evaluate players; he also didn't actually say that he was looking for a mislynch, more that Insomnia was!! Which I just now realized was you while typing this out...


    Regardless, Insomnia, I think that you're reading too much into this; even in the case that Jack's mafia, I'm hoping you won't get stuck on only pushing this today - there are still quite a few other players to sort!!
  24. Day 1#157

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    Game Thread No? It read to me as explaining how Alice's usage...

    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#149)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#144)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#135)
    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#126)
    If meta is trash, why did you say alice's read was good? If you are town, that would mean she scumread you for nai behaviour.
    Because they pick specific things and they try to match it to the on-going game. They rely on a pattern, but aren't paying attention to the details. Which, in this case, was the fact that me latching on to seth's policy lynch thing was made because I felt like I was being called bad at the game for a simple opening post.

    In my scum games, I latch on to things that aren't relevant. My ego is. I always strive to become better at this game, Ara knows this, I've asked her several times for articles that I can read and then when I get called an easy policy lynch, I just can't bear it. Especially when it's done by Seth, like I've said.
    Okay okay, that's enough depth of thought for you to be solidly tentative town!!!
    They actually didnt answer my question, if anyging, they explained why alice's read was bad
    No? It read to me as explaining how Alice's usage of meta seemed to be good from his perspective, which is how I interpreted it anyway!!
  25. Day 1#156

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    Game Thread @Alice Liddel Is there any way to see the game...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#35)
    Quote Originally Posted by WaywardSon (#34)
    Ima go out on a limb and say that he is like this all the time?
    If you mean Seth, I think he is. I checked out his games in ToS and in his only wolf game there he was far more reserved than this.
    @Alice Liddel Is there any way to see the game without being logged in?

    Also I just remembered that I actually have read a bit of Seth meta quite recently; noting that down so hopefully I'll remember that later!!
  26. Day 1#153

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    Game Thread I look forward to changing my mind if you're...

    Quote Originally Posted by tartina (#148)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#129)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#81)
    You wanna know a secret?

    Without fail, scum will try to mislynch players for gimmick posting, often under the pretense of policy lynches or forcing a player to “do something” or because that player is being “annoying.”

    Tartina has the most problems with my posting and she sees me as an “easy mislynch” which is funny because a townie doesn’t look for easy mislynches on the first few pages of the game or ever. Mindset read. This is a wolf slot.

    Insomnia sees Seth as LHF and pushed there hoping for a mislynch. Wolf slot. Easy peasy.



    Congrats, RVS is over by page 2. Let’s hang the wolves and call it a day.
    I disagree with the bolded, because town (at least some, anyway) do tend to look for town and can recognize when someone seems like they'd be easily lynched, though that's regardless of alignment... I guess the wording does indicate mindset a little, though!!!

    Regardless, I do think the way you're using this to approach the game is towny, and I lowkey think she's mafia anyway!!

    i am not mafia, i don't know why I am giving you this impression. Quite sure i will make you change your mind, if you continue reading me (if you are townie)
    I look forward to changing my mind if you're town; I'll be around if you want to talk about anything!!
  27. Day 1#152

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    Game Thread Can you elaborate on the bolded? How have his...

    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#143)
    The only time jackofhearts posts is when his thought process isn't even consistent and his reads don't make any sense.

    We were told this is a light game by Empoof in the thread and jack has 18 posts out of 20 where he has posted emojis.

    I don't get the town reads on him. Wasting posts when you're well aware 50 posts is the limit is not town behaviour.
    Can you elaborate on the bolded? How have his reads been inconsistent? Which of his reads do you think not make sense and why?

    Most importantly, do you think they're necessarily coming from the mindset of someone who is mafia, or simply town who could be thinking from a different perspective from you? Remember, having not explicit thought process can be pretty towny because it implies undercurrents of town thought; personally, it's when someone has perfectly-consistent process that don't really deviate from their norm when I start to get concerned!!

    Depends on what you call wasting; sometimes people just... want to fun, you know?
  28. Day 1#144

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Okay okay, that's enough depth of thought for you...

    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#135)
    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#126)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#116)
    Which is why meta readers are sometimes straight up annoying. Read me in this game, don't pick a scenario from last game and match it with this game.

    Try to figure out why I am frustrated, I gave my explanation. Did it not make any sense to you? Was it scum motivated? You didn't comment on my post, AP did. You just kind of ignored it because you saw a pattern.

    That's why I think meta's trash.
    If meta is trash, why did you say alice's read was good? If you are town, that would mean she scumread you for nai behaviour.
    Because they pick specific things and they try to match it to the on-going game. They rely on a pattern, but aren't paying attention to the details. Which, in this case, was the fact that me latching on to seth's policy lynch thing was made because I felt like I was being called bad at the game for a simple opening post.

    In my scum games, I latch on to things that aren't relevant. My ego is. I always strive to become better at this game, Ara knows this, I've asked her several times for articles that I can read and then when I get called an easy policy lynch, I just can't bear it. Especially when it's done by Seth, like I've said.
    Okay okay, that's enough depth of thought for you to be solidly tentative town!!!
  29. Day 1#137

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    Game Thread What do you think of his posting without him...

    Quote Originally Posted by tartina (#131)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#83)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#81)
    Tartina has the most problems with my posting and she sees me as an “easy mislynch” which is funny because a townie doesn’t look for easy mislynches on the first few pages of the game or ever. Mindset read. This is a wolf slot.
    I disagree on this based on her motivation. Were she looking for an easy mislynch then why even say it out loud? A wolf wouldn't call a player an easy mislynch and then try to mislynch them later on.

    Quite sure that she was sorting you as LHF over your gimmicky posting style and trying to point out that you shouldn't be lynched in the future.
    yep
    but now he's speaking normally, so i can doubt him :P
    bonus townie ended @Jackofhearts2005 !
    What do you think of his posting without him using emotes and stuff?
  30. Day 1#136

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    Game Thread Hi there and welcome, Egix!!! Any thoughts on the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Egix96 (#117)
    Hello ffrinds, what's happenin like?
    Hi there and welcome, Egix!!! Any thoughts on the game thus far?
  31. Day 1#132

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    Game Thread Also have I mentioned that Insomnia's towny yet?...

    Also have I mentioned that Insomnia's towny yet? Because he is; however, I'm putting him as tentative town as I feel confident that he'll be easier to place there confidently later on!!

    I lowkey want to townread AngryPotato for not really seeming to force content and just chilling; having typed that out though, I'm not sure how long she stuck around though!
  32. Day 1#129

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread I disagree with the bolded, because town (at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#81)
    You wanna know a secret?

    Without fail, scum will try to mislynch players for gimmick posting, often under the pretense of policy lynches or forcing a player to “do something” or because that player is being “annoying.”

    Tartina has the most problems with my posting and she sees me as an “easy mislynch” which is funny because a townie doesn’t look for easy mislynches on the first few pages of the game or ever. Mindset read. This is a wolf slot.

    Insomnia sees Seth as LHF and pushed there hoping for a mislynch. Wolf slot. Easy peasy.



    Congrats, RVS is over by page 2. Let’s hang the wolves and call it a day.
    I disagree with the bolded, because town (at least some, anyway) do tend to look for town and can recognize when someone seems like they'd be easily lynched, though that's regardless of alignment... I guess the wording does indicate mindset a little, though!!!

    Regardless, I do think the way you're using this to approach the game is towny, and I lowkey think she's mafia anyway!!
  33. Day 1#123

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread What do you think of Seth outside of him voting...

    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#114)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#87)
    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#82)
    Have a little time, my first impression is that seth vs insomnia is TvT. The whole argument is ridiculous, and I have a hard time seeing why would scum insomnia go knee deep into that $#@! when he could ignore it and not make himself the center of attention.
    Because of Insomnia's past meta.

    Both games I've played with W!Insomnia, as in Empath 13'er and M1GP, he both played extremely reactive during the RVS, which is what I am seeing here. He's far more relaxed in games that I've seen him flip V as in Homicide Investigators and Red Ribbons.

    Yes, it's a meta read on Insomnia, but it's technically what I mostly have for now.
    I town read this.

    But you are so wrong, because you're basing it off specifically what happened in my last scum game. I hate and can't help but respect players like you, because this is an actual good read, and I would do this as scum and I actually do this as game.

    In this specific scenario, however, the frustration and omgus comes from someone hurting my ego. It isn't my typical scum frustration.

    How would you react if Seth called you out for not contributing on your entry post. It's insane.

    I kind of like how everyone straight up ignored the hypocrisy that I pointed out in Jack's posts. He is being hypocritical about three reads, his seth town read and the scum read on both tartina and me.

    I town read you.
    What do you think of Seth outside of him voting you?

    Haven't really seen, regarding Jack; do you read him as town or mafia, in that case?
  34. Day 1#119

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Oh, I know this!!!! Translation: If you do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Angrypotato (#112)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#111)
    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlavor (#109)
    What happens if we are not masons but claim so?
    ✈️������������
    Plane bandage peanuts ? Hey jack, do you have like an emoji translator, i really wpuld i to know what you meanby that
    Oh, I know this!!!!

    Translation:
    If you do this, "I am legit going to book a plane ticket to France and hit you in the $#@!ing nutsack with a baguette."
  35. Day 1#113

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    Game Thread I haven't really thought about the setup/PRs much...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlavor (#109)
    What happens if we are not masons but claim so?
    I haven't really thought about the setup/PRs much yet, but from a glance I would highly recommend not doing this as you only help the mafia narrow down who the masons are!!!
  36. Day 1#110

    Thread: Still Lovesick

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    Game Thread Hey Tartina!! You get to be my first vote of the...

    Quote Originally Posted by tartina (#46)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#22)
    ##Vote Seththeking
    what's your problem with seth? I'm asking because i am curious, i'm not defending him
    Hey Tartina!! You get to be my first vote of the game:

    ##Vote tartina

    Hoping to see more of you soon!!!
  37. Day 1#108

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    Game Thread I typed that out and literally just forgot to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#107)
    Quote Originally Posted by Angrypotato (#98)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#94)
    ������ “������������♂️� ���� ������������♂️�� ��� ������������♂️�� ���”

    ������
    Oh god, if Jack posts like this, I may lose my $#@! at him. My hormones are at an all-time high the next couple of days and discerning tiny emojis will make me more triggered.

    I kinda like post 61 from insomnia. Feels genuine to me. Alice is slight v from me for some of the posts I mindmeld over.

    I am slighty upset that no one is giving me credit for my bomb ass entrance



    @Jackofhearts2005 We need words, not pictures pls.
    Doing this for easy reference:

    Your entrance was aesthetically hype!!! Sorry I'm not really townreading you much for that though; as I recall, you had a pretty energetically town opening in game 7!!
    I typed that out and literally just forgot to write the postnum!!

    61

    As a note, it helps to do that when you're referencing posts in the future, so that people reading it can just click the postnum link from your post to see which post you're talking about!!!

    ...Though I guess that's a little unneeded in this case actually, with it originally being on the same page; I just didn't feel like scrolling up for that!!
  38. Day 1#107

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    Game Thread Doing this for easy reference: Your entrance...

    Quote Originally Posted by Angrypotato (#98)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#94)
    ������ “������������♂️� ���� ������������♂️�� ��� ������������♂️�� ���”

    ������
    Oh god, if Jack posts like this, I may lose my $#@! at him. My hormones are at an all-time high the next couple of days and discerning tiny emojis will make me more triggered.

    I kinda like post 61 from insomnia. Feels genuine to me. Alice is slight v from me for some of the posts I mindmeld over.

    I am slighty upset that no one is giving me credit for my bomb ass entrance



    @Jackofhearts2005 We need words, not pictures pls.
    Doing this for easy reference:

    Your entrance was aesthetically hype!!! Sorry I'm not really townreading you much for that though; as I recall, you had a pretty energetically town opening in game 7!!
  39. Day 1#105

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    Game Thread Personally, I like them; they're rather cute!!! ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#102)
    If you want town cred, you need to translate my posts. It’s worth it cause they’re all really good.
    Personally, I like them; they're rather cute!!!

    I'm just reading back a bit while doing some other stuff!! I think you've been around for longer than I have, so what are your thoughts on the game thus far?
  40. Day 1#103

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    Game Thread I am indeed town this game!!! Are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFlavor (#97)
    Hi ara are you trown?
    I am indeed town this game!!! Are you?
  41. Day 1#100

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    Game Thread Bolded is interesting; do you normally just...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seththeking (#59)
    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia (#55)
    It. Was. An. Entry. Post.

    You didn't even see me play and you are already undermining my contribution. I didn't understand that at all.

    You separated me from WS and Chemist who basically made jokes and somehow made me look worse by not contributing in comparison to them. What have they contributed with?

    I didn't wanna be toxic but being called for low posting and low contribution by $#@!ing Seth honestly pissed me off lmao
    RN you aren’t being Low Poster but your first post stated you were going to Be and I thought I’d be nice and tell you how that could end up hurting us in the long run so you should not be an Low poster.
    I’m glad to see your posting allot, so I’ll give you that.
    Your still null to me via Reads because all your doing RN is pushing me so I can’t really read you on that. All I can get from it is we had Lack Of communication from our conversation.
    Bolded is interesting; do you normally just disregard how people push you in reading them, in that case?

    Lowkey think that's sort of towny; feels like something that mafia would want to lean town or mafia instead of leaving him as null... probably?

  42. Day 1#95

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    Game Thread Reading up; I'm not really sure what you're...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#87)
    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#82)
    Have a little time, my first impression is that seth vs insomnia is TvT. The whole argument is ridiculous, and I have a hard time seeing why would scum insomnia go knee deep into that $#@! when he could ignore it and not make himself the center of attention.
    Because of Insomnia's past meta.

    Both games I've played with W!Insomnia, as in Empath 13'er and M1GP, he both played extremely reactive during the RVS, which is what I am seeing here. He's far more relaxed in games that I've seen him flip V as in Homicide Investigators and Red Ribbons.

    Yes, it's a meta read on Insomnia, but it's technically what I mostly have for now.
    Reading up; I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but the way you're talking about it sounds decently evaluatory in a towny way that seems lowkey unlikely for mafia to be into already; you can be my first tentative townread!!
  43. Day 1#93

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    Game Thread Hello to you too, Jackofhearts!!! Good to finally...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#90)
    ������������♂️�� ���

    ������������♂️�� ���
    Hello to you too, Jackofhearts!!! Good to finally be able to play with you!!
  44. Day 1#91

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    Game Thread Just noting that I'm normally a bit of a...

    Just noting that I'm normally a bit of a highposter and consequently had a bit of difficulty with the light game format last time I played one... so I decided pre-game that I'm going to post approximately normally until I hit 40-45 posts (which should be done within the first half of the game day), and then save some for emergencies/long posts and be around for EoD!!!

    Should be fun; looking forward to playing with you all!!
  45. Day 1#84

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    Game Thread Hello, Lovesick hype!!!!!!!

    Hello, Lovesick hype!!!!!!!
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    Game Thread The game has been randed!!! Mentors can now...

    The game has been randed!!! Mentors can now freely pm their mentees about their rand and vice versa to begin getting hyped!!

    I'll be contacting everyone sometime before the game starts to ensure you're connecting and stuff, and will probably check in with everyone again during day/night 1 too!!

    Good luck/have fun!!
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    Game Thread Reverse Mentor/Mentee Shadowhydra Mafia!: Game...

    Reverse Mentor/Mentee Shadowhydra Mafia!: Game Information!

    This is an automated game of Mafia.


    Setup - 13 Players

    x3 Mafia Goon
    x8 Vanilla Town
    x1 Town Tracker | Odd Night
    x1 Town Tracker | Even Night

    • Majority will be in effect starting Day 2. Day 2 onward will end the instant a majority is reached.
    • Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
    • Mafia factions win when they achieve Parity and all other evil factions have been eliminated at any time.
    • Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
    • No Lynching is enabled. Vote for No Lynch to forgo a lynch that Day.
    • Mafia factional kills are mandatory. Mafia must submit a factional kill each night, or a player outside their faction will be chosen at random.
    • Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
    • Mafia share a factional Night Kill, which is a single standard shot for their faction.
    • Mafia may communicate at any time.
    • Tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players.


    Phase Lengths

    Days are 48 hours in length. Nights are 24 hours in length.

    Players

    @Beck
    @DaveDob
    @dLGN
    @Empoof
    @Five
    @Lissa
    @Mantichora
    @MarkoRaj
    @Newcomb
    @Sunbae
    @SwedishSkumbag
    @Voxxicus
    @yogsloth

    FAQ

    Are you unsure about how actions are processed or how roles interact with each other? Then read more here:

    ORDER OF OPERATIONS

    Night actions are processed in this order:

    Strongman kills
    Roleblocks
    Jails
    Doctors
    Bodyguards
    Kills
    Investigations
    Backups

    When an action was submitted during the night will never matter when the actions are processed.

    ACTION FEEDBACK

    These are the results you will get when you submit certain actions.

    Non-investigative roles when they submit an action (they also receive this if they are roleblocked):

    Your action on Player A was received.
    Investigative actions return results even if the target dies on the same night.

    Actions that count as visits are counted as visits even if the actor dies on the same night.

    Investigative roles (Tracker, Cop, etc.) when roleblocked:

    Your action on Player B did not return any results.
    Trackers when tracking a person that didn't visit anyone (or if they targeted a Ninja):

    Player C did not visit anyone.
    Watchers when watching a person that wasn't visited by anyone (or only visited by a Ninja):

    Player D was not visited by anyone.
    Alignment Cop when investigating a town-aligned player (or a Godfather):

    Player E is Town
    Watcher when watching a person that was visited by multiple people:

    Player F was visited by Player G, Player H, Player I
    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

    How do I submit my action?
    Use the form below the game thread. If your role has a night action, the form will only be visible during night phases. It's not possible to submit actions in advance of the night phase.

    What does it mean if the Mafia Host says that night kills are assigned?
    In games with this setting turned on, the member of the mafia team that made the most recent night kill submission will be the one assigned to the kill, which means that the kill can be blocked if a Town Roleblocker or Town Jailkeeper target the mafia player in question. Similarly, the kill can be tracked and watched by Town Trackers and Town Watchers. If this setting isn't turned on, then it doesn't matter who the last person to submit the mafia kill is, as the kill is unblockable and untrackable in this case.

    Where do I find example role PM's?
    This thread contains example role PM's for all roles currently supported by the Modbot as well as information on the various modifiers. Here you will find the answers to a lot of questions not covered in this FAQ section.

    Which roles can self-target?
    Only Watchers are able to use their ability on themselves at night. This means that Doctors or Jailkeepers aren't able to protect themselves, for example.

    Which roles are not able to target the same players on consecutive nights?
    Doctors, Jailkeepers, and Roleblockers are not allowed to target the same player twice in a row. Everyone else is, including Bodyguards. Note that this non-consecutive restriction still holds true even if one of these three roles were blocked the night before when targeting the person that they're attempting to target again.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A and Jailkeeper B or Roleblocker A and Roleblocker B target each other (and are not targetted by other blockers)?
    In the case of Jailkeepers, they will block and protect each other. In the case of Roleblockers, they also block each other. This means that the two players are trackable to each other that night by Trackers and Watchers. It also means that if one of them is mafia and happens to simultaneously be the one submitting the factional kill that night in a game with assigned kills, then this kill is blocked. This same principle applies to longer loops. I.e. in a A > B > C > D > A loop, everyone is blocked.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Roleblocker B who targets Jailkeeper A?
    Jailkeeper A will be blocked in this scenario. Refer to the order of operations: Roleblocks process before jails.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Roleblocker B who targets Player C?
    As stated above, roleblocks process before jails, so Roleblocker B will successfully block Player C. I.e. Jailkeeper A will fail to block Roleblocker B, but will still protect Roleblocker B.

    What happens if Jailkeeper A targets Jailkeeper B and Jailkeeper B targets Jailkeeper C (who isn't targeting any of the former two)?
    In this case, Jailkeeper A would prevent Jailkeeper B's block from occuring, meaning that Jailkeeper C's action is not blocked.

    If an X-Shot role is blocked while using a shot, do they lose that shot forever?
    Yes. A 1-shot Vigilante being blocked while attempting to kill someone will not have their shot refunded.

    If someone with a Strongman modifier kills Player A who is protected by Bodyguard B, who dies?
    Player A will die, and Bodyguard B will survive.

    Can a mafia team choose not to kill anyone during a night?
    The host can determine this using the Mafia Factional Kill setting. Kills can be mandatory, optional, or disabled altogether.

    The default is No. The mafia factional kill is compulsory. This is done in order to avoid deadlocked games where the town keeps no lynching and the mafia refuses to submit a kill. If the game has assigned kills, it will be randomized which member of the team is carrying out the kill.

    If there is only one mafia member left in a game without assigned kills, can the mafia factional kill then be blocked and/or tracked?
    No.

    Can the mafia submit a kill for one of their own members?
    No.

    If I kill someone, does their night action, if they have one, still succeed?
    Yes, killing someone doesn't prevent them from performing their night action (unless they investigated someone, in which case they will not receive a report). Refer to the order of operations: All kills happen at the end of the night, and everyone pulls the trigger simultaneously.

    Can individual night actions be proxied on mafia teams?
    No. If the mafia team has a Mafia Roleblocker, for example, and they want to use this role's action, then the player occupying that slot must submit the action themselves.

    If a Lover is shot during the night, while the other Lover is protected that night, does the other Lover still die?
    Yes. It's not possible to prevent a Lover from dying of love sickness.

    If a Bodyguard protects Lover A, while Lover B is shot during that same night, what happens?
    A dies of love sickness and Bodyguard lives.

    If there are any Innocent Childs in the game, are these confirmed in the thread right when the game begins?
    No. Innocent Childs are able to decide themselves when or if they wish to have the Modbot confirm their role and alignment in the thread. Note that this is exclusively a day action and that it can take up to one minute for the Modbot to process the action.

    What results are Alignment Cops, Full Cops and Role Cops given if they investigate a Godfather or a Miller?
    Alignment Cops are told "Town" for Godfathers and "Mafia" for Millers. Full Cops are told "Vanilla Town" for Godfathers and "Mafia Goon" for Millers. Role Cops are told "Godfather" for Godfathers and "Miller" for Millers.

    Can Role Cops tell the difference between a Vanilla Town and Mafia Goon?
    No. They are told "Vanilla" when investigating either of these two roles.

    If I roleblock someone with a Bulletproof Vest, will that nullify the effect of the vest?
    No. Bulletproof Vests are passive modifiers that cannot be blocked from working.

    If I roleblock Masons, Neighbors or Lovers with out of thread communication privileges, can I prevent them from talking at night?
    No.

    If I roleblock a Godfather, will they still be revealed as being town-aligned to Alignment Cops and Full Cops that night?
    Yes.

    USING THE SOFTWARE

    Are you wondering about how to vote, submit night actions or multi-isolate players? Read about this and more here:

    VOTING BBCODES

    Our forum votes for someone by using the vote tags: [V]Thingyman[/V]. Preview:

    ##Vote Thingyman

    Make sure that you spell out the full, correct name. Abbreviations or misspelled names will not be registered by the Modbot.

    To unvote, use the tags: [UNV][/UNV] . When unvoting you do not need to enter the name of the person that you are unvoting. Preview:

    ##Unvote

    VOTING BUTTONS

    You can also quickly vote for someone by clicking on the box with a checkmark icon, which will bring up an alphabetized dropdown containing the names of living players:



    This will insert [V][/V] tags with the name of the player you selected in the dropdown, perfect every time.

    Click the empty checkbox button to insert [UNV][/UNV].

    SUBMITTING NIGHT ACTIONS

    If you have a night action, simply submit this at night by scrolling to the bottom of the game thread. Here you will find a night action form like this:



    Click the dropdown and select the player whom you wish to use your night action on. You can change it as many times as you wish before the deadline expires.

    CALLING UP A VOTECOUNT

    Votecounts will appear automatically at various intervals, but you can also call up votecounts yourself by following these steps:

    First, you need to apply to join "Mafia Game Hosts" under Permission Groups.

    Second, once your request has been approved, you will be able to call up votecounts by simply pushing the "Post Votecount" button in the top right corner of any game thread that you'd like an updated votecount for.


    VIEWING VOTE HISTORY

    There are three ways to access the vote history for any game.

    1. Click on the "Vote History" button in the top right corner of the game thread:

    2. Click on the "View Vote History" link, which accompanies all votecounts:

    3. Click on Modbot in the top forum menu. This will give you a list of ongoing and completed games:



      Next, simply click on "Vote History" to view all votes for that game.

    Following any of the above three steps will bring you to an overview like this one:



    Click on a Voter's username to view all of the votes by their slot.

    Click on a Target's username to view all of the votes for their slot.

    ISOLATING A PLAYER'S POSTS

    If you wish to read a player's posts in isolation, simply click on "ISO" in the top right corner of one of that player's posts in the relevant thread as illustrated here:



    Alternatively, you can access a player's posts in isolation by clicking on the number next to "Replies:" in the forum lobby.



    Doing so will pull up a window listing the post counts for everyone who has posted in that thread. You access someone's posts in isolation by simply clicking on the number next to "Posts:" for that person.



    The ISO view itself has Quote and Multi-Quote buttons inside it, which will make it very easy to quickly quote a lot of a player's posts for analysis or commentary:


    MULTI-ISOLATING

    If you wish to read not just one player's posts, but you want to ISO multiple players, then click the "Multi ISO" button to the left of "Game Tools" and select the players in question as shown here:


    MULTI-QUOTING WHILE THREAD IS LOCKED

    Note that you can multi-quote posts from even locked game threads. This is useful for when you wish to reread the game and do work during night phases.

    After quoting the relevant posts, you simply open a different, opened thread and press "Go Advanced". Then add the quotes to your post by clicking the prompt below the post area as shown here:



    Now, of course you can't post your work in the game thread while the thread is locked, but you can copy paste and save your work to a local file or the cloud and have it ready to post the very next day phase (if you're still alive, that is).

    BOOKMARKS

    Whenever you open a game thread, you are able to bookmark posts. This is for many players an important tool for keeping track of and remembering vital pieces of information, reads, claims etc.

    Also, note that these bookmarks are saved to your user account, meaning that it eliminates the trouble associated with keeping notes between different computers/devices.

    If you want to bookmark a post, you simply scroll to the post that you want to bookmark and press "Set Bookmark" as shown here:



    This will call up 5 different colored icons (Blue, Red, Yellow, Green, and Black) on the right side of the post in question. You can click any of these icons, which will then prompt you to include a note for the post.

    If you don't want to include a note, you don't have to - just leave it blank. The color coding in itself can be a valuable tool. Maybe you want to use Red bookmarks for posts that you find suspicious, Green bookmarks for posts that you find townie, Black bookmarks for posts containing claims, or whatever system you can think of that will be helpful to you.



    Once this is done, you have now successfully bookmarked a post with a certain color and maybe even a note. If you wish to remove the bookmark again, click on "Unset Bookmark".

    How do I access bookmarks?

    There are two ways to access your bookmarks.
    1. Inside a game thread, you can access the bookmarks for that specific game by simply right clicking on the "Bookmark" button and opening the link.

      This will bring you to a separate page that is automatically filtered to only show bookmarks from the game thread that you accessed the page from.
    2. You can also access your bookmarks by going to Features in the site's top menu:



      This will bring you to a page where no bookmarks are shown by default. However, you have several filtering options.

      You can filter by Game, by Player and by Color - and all of them at once if you so wish.

      Here's an example of filtering by only red bookmarks in one specific game:



    If you want to be taken directly to one of your bookmarked posts, you just click the post number.

    How do I quote bookmarks?

    You can also multi-quote bookmarked posts by clicking the little "+" button seen above on the far right side of each bookmark.

    Once you have multi-quoted all the bookmarked posts that you want to quote, you will then have to go to the game thread in which you wish to quote the bookmarked posts.

    Here you have two ways of quoting the posts.

    1. Click on "Reply With Quote" on another post as shown here:



      You will then probably want to delete the last post quoted in the reply box, but otherwise you should be good to go.
    2. Or you can do the more smooth option and click the "Reply To Thread" button at the top and bottom of the game thread - as shown here:



      By doing this you will open up a reply box containing only your multi-quoted bookmarked posts.

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    Game Thread Reverse Mentor/Mentee Shadowhydra Mafia!

    Reverse Mentor/Mentee Shadowhydra Mafia!


    Hello, wolf chat? Is anyone there?

    Hosted By: @Arapocalypse
    Players: 13 mentors/13 mentees
    Start Date: June 17th, 2019
    SoD/EoD: 7pm EST
    Phase Lengths: 48/24
    Night Chat: Mafia and Mentor/Mentee pairs only
    Out of Thread Communication: Mafia and Mentor/Mentee pairs only
    Posting Requirement: 15 posts minimum - If you don't meet 15, I will pester/replace you depending on the circumstance!
    Setup: Open
    8 Vanilla Town
    1 Even-Night Town Tracker
    1 Odd-Night Town Tracker


    3 Mafia Goons

    How this works is that mentors will be the one playing the game, with mentees being able to follow along and privately communicate with their respective mentors about what on earth they're doing, mafia theory, and whatever else!! Hopefully it'll be a fun way for mentors to show how they apply their theory... and probably a bit of how they shouldn't be!

    This sort of shadowhydra hasn't really been tested so far, so it's mostly going to be played by ear; with that being said, I'm going to say that you shouldn't really be referencing your mentees much in the thread; this is your time to play the game, not theirs!!

    For mentor/mentee pairs, you don't have to add me to your chat and can just pm each other; it's up to you if you want to make that discussion public afterwards! Mafia mentees will be added directly to mafia chat, however!!


    • Majority will be in effect starting Day 2. Day 2 onward will end the instant a majority is reached.
    • Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated.
    • Mafia factions win when they achieve Parity.
    • Votes are automatically locked in at LYLO.
    • No Lynching is enabled. Vote for No Lynch to forgo a lynch that Day.
    • Mafia factional kills are mandatory. Mafia must submit a factional kill each night, or a player outside their faction will be chosen at random.
    • Mafia factional kills are assigned. They can be tracked, watched, or roleblocked.
    • Mafia may communicate at any time.
    • Tied votes will result in a player being lynched at random from among the tied players.


    1. Shouldn't be needed, hopefully!!


    1. +

    Let me know if you want to spectate!


    The game will be randed late Sunday/early Monday!!! Please pm me if you have any questions about anything!!
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    Manual In!!!

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    Thread: Old Man And The Sea

    by Arapocalypse
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    Completed Day 4 Lynch The Lukundo was Mafia Goon! ...

    Day 4 Lynch

    The Lukundo was Mafia Goon!

    Please send in night actions to Empoof by 5am PST!!

    He'll be in with flavour stuff at some point!
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Hot Potato

The Hot Potato is a player who starts off with the "Hot Potato" item in their possession. On Night 1, they have to pass the item to a new player, who will in turn pass it on to someone new on Night 2, etc. Any player carrying this item cannot use any night action on the night that they are passing it off to someone new.