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  1. #7

    Thread: Labelization

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    Rejected If you ban someone for bigoted behaviour - which...

    If you ban someone for bigoted behaviour - which is openly toxic and upsetting behaviour, to use your words - then it's only intellectually honest to say they were banned for bigoted behaviour. Coddling bigots perpetuates bigotry and signals to the targets of the bigoted behaviour that they are unwelcome and unsafe.

    I don't see how you could consider the Naana post any better unless you think that the banned users deserve some sort of free trial by replicating their statements so that people can judge for themselves whether they care, which would be replicating the very thing the staff are trying to avoid: bigotry. Although I would personally be more humiliated to have my name tied to statements that I supported Hitler and the other terrible things in the post than 'open racism', so maybe the mods should actually just go back to the old system.

    Lying about the reasons the mods banned them by downplaying it does nothing but provide security and plausible deniability to users who harmed the community in the first place, and who were likely given too many chances to do it by the mods anyway.
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    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed It's 8 AM and your own faults you were waiting...

    Quote Originally Posted by jmwjmw27 (#12301)
    read the room
    the entire thread was waiting on you
    you could have made an epic post

    missed opportunity
    It's 8 AM and your own faults you were waiting for me, you deserve the anticlimax :P
  3. Day 5#12302

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    Completed Why tf would you wait for me btw (rhetorical) I'm...

    Why tf would you wait for me btw (rhetorical) I'm literally Australian and I just woke up
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    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed jmwjmw27 Hally also says that GG did a town...

    ##Vote jmwjmw27

    Hally also says that GG did a town tell overnight that they haven't seen GG do as a wolf ftr
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    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed eph and I were looking at how nut handled eph's...

    eph and I were looking at how nut handled eph's case and her progression on the mera slot and uhhh my melatonin started hitting and I can no longer think clearly, so gn. I'll try to get eph's thoughts into thread tmr if there's a thread lol

    ftr this wagon is fine with me
  6. Day 5#12017

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Nini Marshal!

    Nini Marshal!
  7. Day 5#12015

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed The last thing I contributed before today was...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranmilia (#12014)
    Our teamchat has cat gifs and touhou memes.
    The last thing I contributed before today was https://twitter.com/plasmaclusterha/...88389510651908 ngl
  8. Day 5#12011

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Amy is reverting to her upbringing and telling...

    Amy is reverting to her upbringing and telling y'all to get back to church lol
  9. Day 5#12006

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed ┏┓ ┃┃╱╲ in ┃╱╱╲╲ this ╱╱╭╮╲╲house ▔▏┗┛▕▔ we...

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  10. Day 5#12000

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed When Amy kindly offered to do D4, little did I...

    When Amy kindly offered to do D4, little did I know I was actually just throwing myself in front of a bullet for her
  11. Day 5#11998

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Secondhand Revenant Amy's hard shielding Ran (and...

    @Secondhand Revenant Amy's hard shielding Ran (and Eph and I support it), was asked to let you know this since you voted her earlier lol

    Her play around the PRs checks out (as do her notes probably but I can't claim to have read all of them).
  12. Day 5#11984

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Amy has power and water and is finally home again...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranmilia (#11977)
    (And yeah I am extremely lucky and live near a hospital and fire station, our power remained on the whole time and it's been more stress and inconvenience than anything else. And guilt for being so fortunate. Glad Amy's safe through it too.)
    Amy has power and water and is finally home again (which has me very glad as well)! She wanted me to let you know that, and that she's grateful for your shoutout and that it mostly passed you by (as am I).

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11978)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#11974)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11969)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11966)
    ok so chloe completely agrees and thinks they were super trackery I guess i'm not part of the cool kids club
    clarificornia: Chloe thinks that they weren't super trackery but could see how you could confbias yourself into that world
    Buy me a star on the boulevard, it's clarificornication (thx Chloe)
    I was specifically trying to avoid anything near "californication" when trying to combine the words california and clarification

    guess i didn't do a good enough job
    The team braincell is recharging today so you're stuck with me kid gg
  13. Day 5#11974

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Buy me a star on the boulevard, it's...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11969)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11966)
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11964)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#11960)
    Okay. Ftr I didn't notice any of this and had it pointed out to me by Amy, which is why I was the slowest to come round on the slot (although I thought Tsunami's small print was pure @Tsunami so you can pocket me in future). But when she was explaining it we also looked at p#9 and thought they're like ALWAYS tracker lol.

    p#10307, p#10243 was what got them on our radar. p#11406 later on.
    I don't... really see how you got there
    but chloe or maybe kat idk one of them wanted me to ask this so the verdict from them is open
    ok so chloe completely agrees and thinks they were super trackery I guess i'm not part of the cool kids club
    clarificornia: Chloe thinks that they weren't super trackery but could see how you could confbias yourself into that world
    Buy me a star on the boulevard, it's clarificornication (thx Chloe)
  14. Day 5#11970

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Ooops I procced the less than bug anyway...

    Ooops I procced the less than bug anyway djsgjkdfgdf

    @Ran: We definitely haven't played as much as I would have liked! But we are both big backline players and ultimate spectators, so I've definitely felt your presence throughout the game at least.

    I actually forgot you were Texan tbh with everything going on, sorry you've been going through the icepocalypse too I'm glad you're safe and relatively well at least and hope that arm heals up asap so you can get back to fun stuff. Just makes your notes even more formidable ngl.

    (I have to say that when I iso'd Ephemera and Dizzy I definitely walked back a lot of my conviction on that slot, so yeah. The last wolf is putting up a solid fight and they have my respect.)
  15. Day 5#11967

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed [QUOTE=Ranmilia;4686415]

    [QUOTE=Ranmilia;4686415]
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#11949)
    Okay, so...

    We actually thought the Cobalt slot was softing tracker (over multiple slots afaik), which is pretty much all our team's been holding onto (because some people asked us about our read yesterday, and we struggled to give reasoning that wasn't messed up by that).

    Tracks aside... We think lol, Marshal, jmw, Ran are probably all town and don't go there any time soon. I'm not sure where my team is on Michelle specifically; I think we've all had a fairly consistent townlean on that slot and I find Michelle's VCs really towny rn actually.

    We're going back to the read we think has the strongest evidence behind it and the weakest counterevidence against it. Since it's either a mechlock or just a game of pure process of elimination at this point, I am just gonna vote. I'd rather not case people or have people fight any more if it's not necessary.

    I've enjoyed playing with my team a lot and I hope you've all enjoyed playing with yours too, at the very least. I'd put a heart here but it doesn't play nicely with the text editor.

    ##Vote Garden Gnome
  16. Day 5#11960

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Okay. Ftr I didn't notice any of this and had it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#11952)
    can you point out the softs
    Okay. Ftr I didn't notice any of this and had it pointed out to me by Amy, which is why I was the slowest to come round on the slot (although I thought Tsunami's small print was pure @Tsunami so you can pocket me in future). But when she was explaining it we also looked at p#9 and thought they're like ALWAYS tracker lol.

    p#10307, p#10243 was what got them on our radar. p#11406 later on.
  17. Day 5#11954

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed holy $%#! lol I commend you for your efforts,...

    holy $%#! lol

    I commend you for your efforts, also claiming gay so please add that while you're at it.
  18. Day 5#11949

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Okay, so... We actually thought the Cobalt...

    Okay, so...

    We actually thought the Cobalt slot was softing tracker (over multiple slots afaik), which is pretty much all our team's been holding onto (because some people asked us about our read yesterday, and we struggled to give reasoning that wasn't messed up by that).

    Tracks aside... We think lol, Marshal, jmw, Ran are probably all town and don't go there any time soon. I'm not sure where my team is on Michelle specifically; I think we've all had a fairly consistent townlean on that slot and I find Michelle's VCs really towny rn actually.

    We're going back to the read we think has the strongest evidence behind it and the weakest counterevidence against it. Since it's either a mechlock or just a game of pure process of elimination at this point, I am just gonna vote. I'd rather not case people or have people fight any more if it's not necessary.

    I've enjoyed playing with my team a lot and I hope you've all enjoyed playing with yours too, at the very least. I'd put a heart here but it doesn't play nicely with the text editor.

    ##Vote Garden Gnome
  19. Day 5#11859

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed Honestly I'd just say turboyeet us rather than...

    Honestly I'd just say turboyeet us rather than spend mental energy on figuring out the last wolf bc I wanna go to dvc / see people react to our green flip, but it is technically suboptimal and I don't wanna add another asterisk to my misyeet record lmao

    Also Amy and her other pogchamps deserve to be vindicated lbr...
  20. Day 5#11857

    Thread: Ice Cream Team Mafia

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    Completed My post keeps getting eaten because I put...

    My post keeps getting eaten because I put different hearts in it (not just lessthanthree)???? Hi to SR/Ran/Marshal/Cobalt/other lovely people I've yet to meet. Hearts hearts hearts!!

    We are VTs and so this game is ~always locked from our pov, so I'm gonna remain checked out for now.
  21. #1025

    Thread: Current Staff

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    Sticky: o7

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    Completed is it amelia watson i'm sure she'd be very...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#546)
    this pfp actually makes me feel actively worse at the game but i'm having a good time
    is it amelia watson

    i'm sure she'd be very good at the game
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    Completed it's actually comparable in that way bc you got...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#535)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#527)
    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#516)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#506)
    how familiar are you with eph's playstyle? is this just an inference or actual meta?

    (for context, i've played... 3 mashlike things with eph and specced 2-3 more?)
    not familiar at all - i don't think i've gotten to play w/him until now

    his treatment/style of interacting with me pinged me, but then i realized that the specific treatment that pinged me was the type of treatment that he was giving everyone in the game. since it wasn't directed at me specifically and was more inherent to their style of talking, it increased the chances that what i was getting pinged by was just playstyle related

    it's kinda abstract/hard to explain lol
    ty

    i think you explained it fine, it makes sense and is an aspect of how i'm reading him rn too, i just got hung up on specifically semantically 'playstyle' bc of a previous game i had with him (syndicate upick)
    Expand on this? What are you referring to specifically

    Also the choice of game seems kind of odd to me considering I uh, barely even played that game
    it's actually comparable in that way bc you got dogpiled during literal d0 when we were roleplaying about bunnies and ITA'd d1, and imo you reacted kind of similarly to the events, in a way i felt was potentially AI

    i believed after that game (and anni) that i had a really solid tell on you as a wolf related to how you post towards the thread (not after hydra mash lol, which humbled me enough i'm treating it as a reset)

    basically it has something to do with how i was thinking about spf's thought processes in calling it playstyle (and therefore less AI)

    sorry i feel bad going in depth about this bc i'm describing my hubris about someone i'd never interacted with at the time
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    Completed lowkey when i read the words 'robinhood forced me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#518)
    are gh and dya still around for me to ask about my apparent wolf equity or did they run away

    (for the record: robinhood forced me to sell off all my wolf equity to mitigate market volatility)
    lowkey when i read the words 'robinhood forced me to sell off all my' i got so worried for you i missed the joke lol
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    Completed ty i think you explained it fine, it makes...

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#516)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#506)
    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#473)
    ##Vote GeneralHankerchief

    i iso'd them again and i think most of my issues with eph were playstyle indicative and not alignment indicative
    how familiar are you with eph's playstyle? is this just an inference or actual meta?

    (for context, i've played... 3 mashlike things with eph and specced 2-3 more?)
    not familiar at all - i don't think i've gotten to play w/him until now

    his treatment/style of interacting with me pinged me, but then i realized that the specific treatment that pinged me was the type of treatment that he was giving everyone in the game. since it wasn't directed at me specifically and was more inherent to their style of talking, it increased the chances that what i was getting pinged by was just playstyle related

    it's kinda abstract/hard to explain lol
    ty

    i think you explained it fine, it makes sense and is an aspect of how i'm reading him rn too, i just got hung up on specifically semantically 'playstyle' bc of a previous game i had with him (syndicate upick)
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    Completed counterproposal: just hop into sunbae's pocket...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alette (#515)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#511)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alette (#509)
    I’ll say that as much as i tried to mentally prepare myself for this game, it’s kind of hard to get back into. Meta, playstyles, players that i don’t know, and living to expectations is causing me to be sort of weird. Visor weirds me out at the moment and hally seems like the hally which is good in my book. Friday was a weird start date and i wish i didn’t make plans midday.
    my strategy is just to kinda chill and chat with people about how theyve been doing and their current interests

    then to sponge newcomb and win
    I wish i was here at the start to do that but it seems late.
    counterproposal: just hop into sunbae's pocket friendship circle like the rest of us
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    Completed is there a particular person you had in mind when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alette (#509)
    I’ll say that as much as i tried to mentally prepare myself for this game, it’s kind of hard to get back into. Meta, playstyles, players that i don’t know, and living to expectations is causing me to be sort of weird. Visor weirds me out at the moment and hally seems like the hally which is good in my book. Friday was a weird start date and i wish i didn’t make plans midday.
    is there a particular person you had in mind when you wrote the bolded?

    also, i'm really glad we're getting to play again. it's a few hours into the game y'know
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    Completed how familiar are you with eph's playstyle? is...

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#473)
    ##Vote GeneralHankerchief

    i iso'd them again and i think most of my issues with eph were playstyle indicative and not alignment indicative
    how familiar are you with eph's playstyle? is this just an inference or actual meta?

    (for context, i've played... 3 mashlike things with eph and specced 2-3 more?)
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    Completed i vibe with this really hard, but for social...

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#492)
    ngl being in a playerlist with a bunch of veteran players who i am largely unfamiliar with has me a bit nervous. you're all nice people, but it's an environment that is a little inherently intimidating :P i usually like to pick up a lot of reads in the early game but a lot of the posts in this thread are just kind of there and don't particularly move me. the closest things i have to townleans so far are dya, hally, and zack (probably in that order)

    maybe sunbae too
    i vibe with this really hard, but for social reasons more than competitive ones lol

    that being said, i feel like you've had more reads than anyone else by a fair margin

    what moves the needle for you on hally?
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    Completed ladd made it after all feelsgoodman

    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomb (#498)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#176)
    lol

    so that's the kind of "game" it's going to be heh

    cringe
    ladd made it after all

    feelsgoodman
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    Completed spiderman pointing that being said, yeah...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#491)
    (and hell, it's probably silly that i'm expending so much brainpower on solving alette this early anyways, but i guess i kinda take pride in powers as an alette-whisperer and want to live up to self-expectation)
    spiderman pointing

    that being said, yeah maybe, but i appreciate the expansion here a lot

    but i think my concern is that like... as bad as the chaos mafia joke etc were, they were still very distinctly alette-like, whereas answering "alette are you mafia" with "amy are you mafia" could very easily come from almost anyone in this game if you took away the names
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    Completed sorry but what's a layup read is that american...

    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomb (#477)
    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#85)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#75)
    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#74)
    good guess, but it was actually #19! i think that post from zack is NAI
    ok, why do you think that one is good?

    goddammit why am I jumping into game mode this early
    honestly i just like the fact that dya jumped from casual RVS mode to serious mode with such a level of ease - i think that most scum in the early game are gonna be focused on meshing with the vibe/"mood" of the thread and would likely respond to that by lightly joking/bantering back

    the fact that dya used it as an opportunity to reiterate how relieved they were indicated to me that they might be playing w a mindset that is unconcerned w/self perception
    There's a small part of me that's telling me that I shouldn't lock someone in as wolf for glomming onto a joke on their entry post vs. making an original joke and then slightly over-explaining a layup read.
    sorry but what's a layup read is that american sports or something
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    Completed alright, i'll just drop it tbh and... it makes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#472)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#456)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#434)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#432)
    @Ephemeral were you trying to say that hally's post about gh was a good/interesting/salient/whatever observation

    can you try to explain to me why you just folded when you felt you were misunderstood?
    "Folded"?
    i'm sorry if that's a loaded word and i'm putting negative words in your mouth

    i mean the post where you said 'it's going to be one of those games' when you started to get voted

    it was a strong, immediate reaction and i am exploring some thoughts about it
    Ah right, frankly I'd rather not talk about that specifically if it's okay with ya

    Fwiw I read into "folded" as if you were implying i retracted my statement about hally's post on gh, which i didn't

    Also, I agreed with their description of his posts, but not with the implied wolf read behind them

    Hope that makes sense
    alright, i'll just drop it tbh

    and... it makes sense as in i parse it but it doesn't make sense as in i logically follow it sorry

    i'll leave this line of questioning for now but lmk if it's ok to come back to the last part tomorrow if i need to
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    Completed lmao yes that's the post i meant i was...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#474)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#359)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#249)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#244)
    I did notice she didn't deny she was mafia, if that's you mean.
    that, and it was a very... bland sort of joke. i kind of expected her to put some effort into it and she just. didn't.
    tune in for chaos mafia 5 in 2022
    unless you meant this one, in which case you have filled me with Emotions
    lmao

    yes that's the post i meant

    i was joking abt alette but i was also pointing out she's been kind of lethargic this week

    presumably due to having a head and heart full of omori
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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#466)
    this thread is nice and you're all nice too
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    Completed amy did you see my post to you?

    amy did you see my post to you?
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    Completed i'm sorry if that's a loaded word and i'm putting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ephemeral (#434)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#432)
    @Ephemeral were you trying to say that hally's post about gh was a good/interesting/salient/whatever observation

    can you try to explain to me why you just folded when you felt you were misunderstood?
    "Folded"?
    i'm sorry if that's a loaded word and i'm putting negative words in your mouth

    i mean the post where you said 'it's going to be one of those games' when you started to get voted

    it was a strong, immediate reaction and i am exploring some thoughts about it
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    Completed https://i.imgur.com/J7QZhwP.png

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#377)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#371)
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#366)
    reading this thread is giving me a stroke fsr i'm sorry but i look forward to you finishing madoka a lot, sunbae
    update: it's just nl
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    Completed Ephemeral were you trying to say that hally's...

    @Ephemeral were you trying to say that hally's post about gh was a good/interesting/salient/whatever observation

    can you try to explain to me why you just folded when you felt you were misunderstood?
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    Completed this + the ensuing posts feel like the most villa...

    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#137)
    interesting that beck and ephem basically said the same thing about hally's post
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#143)
    Quote Originally Posted by Beck (#142)
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#137)
    interesting that beck and ephem basically said the same thing about hally's post
    we coordinated behind the scenes
    my gut reactions to your posts and ephem's post were different so it's weird to me

    like why don't I mind it as much from you but it felt slimy coming from ephem
    this + the ensuing posts feel like the most villa AI thing i've read so far, mostly bc of sth i can't really articulate about v!dya and how they find meanings from observations

    the thought openly develops over time but independently/gradually
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    Completed update: it's just nl

    Quote Originally Posted by jumpluff (#366)
    reading this thread is giving me a stroke fsr i'm sorry but i look forward to you finishing madoka a lot, sunbae
    update: it's just nl
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    Completed reading this thread is giving me a stroke fsr i'm...

    reading this thread is giving me a stroke fsr i'm sorry but i look forward to you finishing madoka a lot, sunbae
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    Completed tune in for chaos mafia 5 in 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#249)
    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#244)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#216)
    is it stupid that alette's reply to me asking if she was mafia is bugging me
    I did notice she didn't deny she was mafia, if that's you mean.
    that, and it was a very... bland sort of joke. i kind of expected her to put some effort into it and she just. didn't.
    tune in for chaos mafia 5 in 2022
  44. Postgame#20921

    Thread: Baldur's Gate II Mish-Mash

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    Completed I loved speccing this game and was sad I couldn't...

    I loved speccing this game and was sad I couldn't play, tbh. I'm looking forward to you hosting more on here, UD/bop!
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    i would be very fine with 48/24 but not sure how...

    i would be very fine with 48/24 but not sure how the rest of amy's little pogchamps feel
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    You take the number of players, take a guess for...

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#21)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#14)
    Would perhaps be useful to have stuff like "estimated post volume: ~X posts per day" or "estimated day 1 post volume: ~X posts, estimated day 2 post volume: ~X posts, etc." in the signup OP, depending on the type of game you're hosting!!!
    Except this isn't actually possible without a playerbase already set out. Some players will post max 50 posts a day and others will 300 post. Due to that you can't really predict accurately how active your game will be unless the host knows literally everyone and the playerbase is already set (I.E an invitational).
    You take the number of players, take a guess for an average, and multiply, giving a broad range. The point is to communicate to people what the player number and site volume means roughly in terms of commitment. Or you can look at other games that are similar in size and take a low volume one and a high volume one. (Often, I've asked hosts how often they expect their games to last too, which is another consideration I take in mind, although late subbing is less of a thing, but it's an example of another thing you can project) It helps if you have some awareness already of the activity of the players likely to join your game though.
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    Thread: Word Association

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    goals

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    Yeah, this would be better. I also like the thing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#14)
    Would perhaps be useful to have stuff like "estimated post volume: ~X posts per day" or "estimated day 1 post volume: ~X posts, estimated day 2 post volume: ~X posts, etc." in the signup OP, depending on the type of game you're hosting!!!
    Yeah, this would be better. I also like the thing you do where you advertise what games you expect to conflict with yours and how long you expect yours to go to.

    My point is that current post minimums communicate a misleading sense of how much activity is actually needed to participate meaningfully in a typical MU game, on a factor that is meaningful to people who are not used to MU’s volume. It explicitly contradicts any information newer players may be receiving passively about the typical thread length because it is given by the host. Therefore they should be raised and/or additional indicators of activity expectations should be given, via reaching out to new players (as I mentioned) and in the OP.

    Another host I would commend here is UncleDynamite. He’s a strict host with involved and complex games, so he tells you upfront - I expect at least an hour a day, and preferably you show up to ITAs, blah blah. This has really helped me before.
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    I also think post minimums should be a bit more...

    I also think post minimums should be a bit more honest, tbh. Even raising the convention of 5 to 10-20 would reflect an honest minimum expectation. It might sound silly to MU regulars, but on other sites, the difference between making 5 posts in a day and 15 is more significant.

    I'm aware they're just 'if you don't reach this I'll literally sub you' thresholds, but a lot of subs do come from newer players, and MU is high-volume compared to other mafia communities. Extenuating circumstances limited to a single phase or things like early maj are already situations where the host should be exercising their judgment.

    Also, I agree with Sett, and would add that we do have a lot of light games (not that I think light games should be subfests, but most light games are typically more newbie-friendly). When I joined, it wasn't unheard of for hosts to check out newer players that signed up for their games and make sure they were prepared to handle the volume, if they really wanted to play.

    I guess to sum up, I think communicating honest and appropriate activity requirements, vetting players, and being proactive about issues affecting players during the game are the responsibilities of a good host. And good hosts tend to attract dedicated players.
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    I read most games on this site when I’m around,...

    I read most games on this site when I’m around, and while I lack access to flake mod data, I kinda suspect that anything beyond regular seasonal fluctuations* is a feedback loop relating to hosts, yeah. I wish hosts would be more proactive about ensuring people are prepared to play. I think many players who are active—even ones who aren’t that picky—avoid hosts or player lists where they foresee problems arising with the list or setup, which only compounds itself.

    *e.g. certain times of year attract more new players, specifically ones who are likelier to get overwhelmed or forget they’re playing, or generate more commitments like semester being tougher than anticipated
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