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  1. Day 2#1347

    Thread: Scythe Mafia Game Thread

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    Completed I’m gonna reev the Chox TL bc his SRs in a post I...

    I’m gonna reev the Chox TL bc his SRs in a post I read were sort by postcount
  2. Day 2#1346

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    Completed The main thing I’m getting from the thread rn is...

    The main thing I’m getting from the thread rn is that Enders play isn’t what I expect from him at all still
  3. Day 2#1344

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    Completed Drinking water isn’t safe

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantischora (#1342)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#1341)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenTyranno (#1335)
    @Dolby are u alright man? The more I look at the vote count and see: Not Voting Dolby (0) the more I worry about u.
    Ngl not really
    whats up
    Drinking water isn’t safe
  4. Day 2#1343

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    Completed I’ve never seen a scum game of his but his energy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#1230)
    @Dolby can you elaborate on why you read Choxorn town please? You've had him listed as strong town from your list post but never gave any reasoning.

    Have any of your reads changed since your initial D1 posts?
    I’ve never seen a scum game of his but his energy reminds me somewhat of town him in War of Princes on CFC last year
  5. Day 2#1341

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    Completed Ngl not really

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenTyranno (#1335)
    @Dolby are u alright man? The more I look at the vote count and see: Not Voting Dolby (0) the more I worry about u.
    Ngl not really
  6. Day 1#935

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    Completed I thought Turtle was in the game for a second and...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#902)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#171)
    Tbh I wnterentained for a second that Wimls inclusion of Turtle in #17 was scummy weird but just no. The reactions to that are just bad on most ends

    Cap’s take in #31 is super whack, but I recently exploited him being insanely scummy in another game recently so I’m not full send on that

    And a top townlean on Mac for “sup” and a vote on Wiml?

    Wiml kinda awk going into page 2. And coming from a guy who writes to much he’s writing to much. I do feel his response to Mac though on an emotional level. I guess I associate emotion more from town Wiml because of rhe hydra game

    Strong agree with Manti in #76. I’ll give that slot a TL for the moment

    Schweppes has given commentary on the game without reads, kinda bad

    Manti stop copypastaing pls

    I’m considering Schweppes possible jester

    Chox town

    Manti still town
    @Dolby would you mind exploring thought process with the bold please?
    I thought Turtle was in the game for a second and you were going for a pocket

    Days pretty bad. In a meeting. Won’t respond to further inquiries

    ##Vote Capage
  7. Day 1#869

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    Completed Fair

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#866)
    I don't really scumread either of the wagons but I also townread almost everyone else to at least some extent now.
    Fair
  8. Day 1#865

    Thread: Scythe Mafia Game Thread

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    Completed This is more because I’m frustrated with the w/w...

    This is more because I’m frustrated with the w/w characterization on me/capage that might have come w/o reading a relevant portion than a sus
  9. Day 1#863

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    Completed Hottest take Raskolnikov

    Hottest take

    ##Vote Raskolnikov
  10. Day 1#861

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    Completed Don’t like the solidifying of what we’re...

    Don’t like the solidifying of what we’re previously exploratory votes on me
  11. Day 1#860

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    Completed Hi Ender

    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#859)
    Morning Dolby
    Hi Ender
  12. Day 1#858

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    Completed After Cap self presed than noped out of it I’m...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (#854)
    Threadstate hot take:

    This is either tt or ww.
    After Cap self presed than noped out of it I’m thinking that
  13. Day 1#700

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    Completed I’m gonna sleep in like 10 minutes fyi

    I’m gonna sleep in like 10 minutes fyi
  14. Day 1#696

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    Completed This is a remarkably fast read through

    Quote Originally Posted by Logic (#690)
    Of the two wagons, I think I'd vote for Dolby over Capage.

    But the last time I asked Capage to come save himself, his scum buddy was the opposite wagon and I got tunneled for it for days.
    This is a remarkably fast read through
  15. Day 1#686

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    Completed I’ve mainly been skimming the larger posts, the...

    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#684)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#676)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#311)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#305)
    Don't think he's posted anything new since sooo

    The most remarkable thing is that his wagon seems to have taken the lead over yours
    Sorry, I must have gotten my timeline wrong then. Is there anybody else you have a particularly strong read on that you'd be able to explain?

    I asked about blade in particular because he's the person I'm looking at now. It's probably not a great representation of his wolf play but I think he's still fairly tonally different.

    As one example of what I'm getting at, there's a similar exchange in that game to in p#112:
    "Dolby already outing my alt names smh" - Wolf game (Dolby was his partner).
    "Wiml outing my alt names." - This game.

    That’s not exactly what I'm trying to get at but it is a pretty much direct comparison and there is generally a trend throughout like I've shown there of blade using much more flowery / performative language to say similar things between both that game and this.

    I'm not too far into the comparison yet and I'm going to compare to a blade town game too but it's probably a good look.
    I do get what Wiml is saying despite bad example + pretty much immediate retraction. That Enders post seem more designed to get TLs than actually solve, and that’s pretty much my take
    You do realise what Wiml was saying is that he thought he had a townread on me this game due to tone? Or are you misrepresenting him on purpose?
    I’ve mainly been skimming the larger posts, the point is that you’re light on analysis and you’re posts seem more aiming to get on people’s good side than solve
  16. Day 1#682

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    Completed I remembered you voted them and forgot you said...

    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#679)
    How is my wiml take weird tho?
    I remembered you voted them and forgot you said that you just joined the wagon for the lols
  17. Day 1#678

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    Completed Whoops didn’t mean to post that TL;dr Cap and...

    Whoops didn’t mean to post that

    TL;dr Cap and Ender are scummy

    I like Chox, Logic, Manti at top. A lot of people I can’t really disassociate from their lack of posts at this particular moment or I just don’t want to read rn

    ##Vote Capage
  18. Day 1#676

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    Completed Lol Think this is reads doe the sake of reads...

    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#31)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#9)
    Quick question but could somebody please tell me how to embed video links? I'm stumped lol.
    tbh, wiml probably wolf here for both wanting to post a video and asking the question.
    Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#35)
    Town: Mac, Ultra, Rask
    Scum: Wiml

    ##Vote Wiml
    Think this is reads doe the sake of reads
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#48)
    Rask is probably town.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#49)
    Wiml is probably not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#50)
    ##Vote Macdougall
    Wiml getting annoyed is more v him than w him
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantischora (#76)
    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#74)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantischora (#71)
    Mac wiml outed
    you think we are distancing?
    wiml typing out two big posts already feels very weird and overly concerned with appearance

    you are focusing on his opening for very poor reasons
    Still vibe with this

    Quote Originally Posted by Choxorn (#147)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#90)
    Like I don’t take issue with you wolf reading that entrance in a vacuum, I take issue with you wolf reading that entrance knowing it comes from me and pretty much hand waving it as "it's wolfy in a vacuum" to gloss over the fact that it's absolutely not a wolf-indicative entrance from me specifically and if anything the opposite because I think I'm a competent enough wolf to not needlessly draw a crapload of negative attention to myself just from my entrance alone if it wasn't pre-prepared. I already have a bunch of canned entrances that I use all the time anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#102)
    To add onto this: if you thought I gave a damn about my appearance entering this game then I wouldn't have asked for software help in game in a community where I have been falsely accused of trying to derp clear myself in half of the games I've played also for asking fir help.
    Most of Wiml's frustration posts don't seem NAI to me and could easily just be "I'm town why are people scumreading me for this stupid thing I always do, AGAIN" but these two posts are the ones that most feel more like the wolf-frustration of "No damn it that's not why I'm scummy, stop finding me scummy for that stupid thing I also do as town, find me scummy for a different reason!"
    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#181)
    Dolby not analysing me is a sad day. =P
    Quote Originally Posted by Choxorn (#182)
    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#181)
    Dolby not analysing me is a sad day. =P
    It's not like you've given him a whole lot to analyze
    What Chox said. Blade this game feels present for the sake of being present. Low on analysis, high on trying to vibe with others
    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#258)
    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#255)
    From where I am sitting Mantischora and Wiml are mafia or really good day 1 mischops for town. Happy to hear arguments to the contrary.
    I mean both seem kinda town to me.
    Wiml take is weird with past stances
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#285)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#102)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#98)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantischora (#76)
    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#74)
    you think we are distancing?
    wiml typing out two big posts already feels very weird and overly concerned with appearance

    you are focusing on his opening for very poor reasons
    Yeah and one of those two points causes the other one to happen.
    To add onto this: if you thought I gave a damn about my appearance entering this game then I wouldn't have asked for software help in game in a community where I have been falsely accused of trying to derp clear myself in half of the games I've played also for asking fir help.
    This isn't town Will I know. If it's not towny in general, I'll have to put more effort into reading his posts, but getting defensive over sod1 scumreads like this might be not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#287)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#229)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#35)
    Town: Mac, Ultra, Rask
    Scum: Wiml

    ##Vote Wiml
    @Capage could you explain these two please?
    Mac had the same reaction as I. If you're town, I probably jumped on it too quickly. His other activity is in null territory tbh.
    Ultra's just town for taking stances early in a towny way (I'll deliver a better explanation when at home).
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#288)
    Town: Ultra, Nanook, Logic, Manti, Rask
    Should be town: Mac
    Null: Schweppes, blade
    Scum: Choy, Will, maybe Dolby
    Mac move is just appeasement, and Cap literally does the exact same thing he did to Mac to Nanook in this reads list.

    He can also make a take on blade
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#311)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra (#305)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#301)
    I know you're voting him currently, how are you feeling about Blade since then?
    Don't think he's posted anything new since sooo

    The most remarkable thing is that his wagon seems to have taken the lead over yours
    Sorry, I must have gotten my timeline wrong then. Is there anybody else you have a particularly strong read on that you'd be able to explain?

    I asked about blade in particular because he's the person I'm looking at now. It's probably not a great representation of his wolf play but I think he's still fairly tonally different.

    As one example of what I'm getting at, there's a similar exchange in that game to in p#112:
    "Dolby already outing my alt names smh" - Wolf game (Dolby was his partner).
    "Wiml outing my alt names." - This game.

    That’s not exactly what I'm trying to get at but it is a pretty much direct comparison and there is generally a trend throughout like I've shown there of blade using much more flowery / performative language to say similar things between both that game and this.

    I'm not too far into the comparison yet and I'm going to compare to a blade town game too but it's probably a good look.
    I do get what Wiml is saying despite bad example + pretty much immediate retraction. That Enders post seem more designed to get TLs than actually solve, and that’s pretty much my take

    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#436)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#426)
    ##Vote Schweppes
    Actually kinda like Schweppes now.

    Wish they'd be more co-operative tho
    Why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#457)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#35)
    Town: Mac, Ultra, Rask
    Scum: Wiml

    ##Vote Wiml
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#287)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#229)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#35)
    Town: Mac, Ultra, Rask
    Scum: Wiml

    ##Vote Wiml
    @Capage could you explain these two please?
    Mac had the same reaction as I. If you're town, I probably jumped on it too quickly. His other activity is in null territory tbh.
    Ultra's just town for taking stances early in a towny way (I'll deliver a better explanation when at home).
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#288)
    Town: Ultra, Nanook, Logic, Manti, Rask
    Should be town: Mac
    Null: Schweppes, blade
    Scum: Choy, Will, maybe Dolby
    Mac in top town tier. Wiml wolf. Wiml asks him to explain Mac read. Gives bad explanation that shouldn't modify his initial read. Drops Mac a tier.

    Capage shouldn't be getting townreads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#472)
    ##Vote Dolby

    I think I prefer this over Choxorn for now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Choxorn (#529)
    Bladescape's entire ISO feels like nothing at all to me and it kind of bothers me how he has 48 posts and it's almost all no-effort fluff

    Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see if he improves with time but doesn't mean I like what he's contributed so far
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#563)
    ##Vote Dolby

    Gotta protect the mac daddy
    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape (#615)
    Back on actual topic btw,

    I wanna hear more from ##Vote Dolby

    Also owe him a D1 lynch =P
  19. Day 1#179

    Thread: Scythe Mafia Game Thread

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    Completed I don’t see a reason to townread Logic yet. His...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantischora (#151)
    logic is my top town
    I don’t see a reason to townread Logic yet. His response to me was probs the most AI thing he’s done
  20. Day 1#178

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    Completed What’s anti-consensus here? I think that most of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Logic (#176)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#171)
    Tbh I wnterentained for a second that Wimls inclusion of Turtle in #17 was scummy weird but just no. The reactions to that are just bad on most ends

    Cap’s take in #31 is super whack, but I recently exploited him being insanely scummy in another game recently so I’m not full send on that

    And a top townlean on Mac for “sup” and a vote on Wiml?

    Wiml kinda awk going into page 2. And coming from a guy who writes to much he’s writing to much. I do feel his response to Mac though on an emotional level. I guess I associate emotion more from town Wiml because of rhe hydra game

    Strong agree with Manti in #76. I’ll give that slot a TL for the moment

    Schweppes has given commentary on the game without reads, kinda bad

    Manti stop copypastaing pls

    I’m considering Schweppes possible jester

    Chox town

    Manti still town
    I think these reads are too anti-consensus to be scummy but they are kinda whack.

    I'm off to bed to enjoy my no-longer-needed slank cover.
    What’s anti-consensus here? I think that most of these the majority of people who’ve spoken out on them think (excepting maybe Wiml)

    How are they whack?
  21. Day 1#177

    Thread: Scythe Mafia Game Thread

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    Completed Town Manti Chox Ultra (has a few good...

    Town
    Manti
    Chox
    Ultra (has a few good reactions and takes on pages 2 and 3(ex. Squeeze water from a rock))

    Whack
    Schweppes
    Capage
    Wiml (pretty much what Manti said about him, probably wouldn’t vote him atm bc of the way the wagon started)

    Not the starting division I was hoping for
  22. Day 1#174

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    Completed That’s just Mac

    That’s just Mac
  23. Day 1#171

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    Completed Tbh I wnterentained for a second that Wimls...

    Tbh I wnterentained for a second that Wimls inclusion of Turtle in #17 was scummy weird but just no. The reactions to that are just bad on most ends

    Cap’s take in #31 is super whack, but I recently exploited him being insanely scummy in another game recently so I’m not full send on that

    And a top townlean on Mac for “sup” and a vote on Wiml?

    Wiml kinda awk going into page 2. And coming from a guy who writes to much he’s writing to much. I do feel his response to Mac though on an emotional level. I guess I associate emotion more from town Wiml because of rhe hydra game

    Strong agree with Manti in #76. I’ll give that slot a TL for the moment

    Schweppes has given commentary on the game without reads, kinda bad

    Manti stop copypastaing pls

    I’m considering Schweppes possible jester

    Chox town

    Manti still town
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    Completed Yo yo yo friendos

    Yo yo yo friendos
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    MS Paint /in to describe

    /in to describe
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    Thread: Scythe Mafia

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    Sign-Up /in I'll probably regret this

    /in

    I'll probably regret this
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    Current Bans

    We have made the decision to ban Timsup2nothin from the subforum for 3 months. This is mainly due to misogynistic comments made by him on the BFC server, but also due to long-standing issues with respecting the boundaries of others.
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    Sticky: Invites to associated discord servers

    CFC mafia server: https://discord.gg/eZk79ZxTET this is where all things mafia occur.
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    Completed Don’t think I can be here anymore. I was hoping...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#216)
    The only thing that I don't like about GG is that they kinda ran away with Penguin's GG/Kajot thing for a bit. Besides that they felt fine. Probs not gonna support a CFD there
    Don’t think I can be here anymore. I was hoping that Kajot and Penguin would pivot to Appelsiini in a sus manner here to give me piece of mind but that didn’t happen. I’m pretty sure whoever I vote dies


    ##Vote Kajot

    What Schweppes says about Penguin I vibe with
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    Completed The only thing that I don't like about GG is that...

    The only thing that I don't like about GG is that they kinda ran away with Penguin's GG/Kajot thing for a bit. Besides that they felt fine. Probs not gonna support a CFD there
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    Completed Kajot, I know you said earlier you kinda didn't...

    Kajot, I know you said earlier you kinda didn't want to yeet him but how do you feel about Penguin?
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    Completed very understandable

    Quote Originally Posted by Sara Chidouin (#203)
    - @Dolby big ???. Handwave of Penguin was bad, but I'd like for them to put out more content to make them readable.
    very understandable
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    Completed probs not gonna get an answer this phase, but I...

    probs not gonna get an answer this phase, but I want to know why GG put me as towny from my two posts, after saying that Appel's take on me looked good.

    Want to know why Appel slipped as well for her as well
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    Completed What caused you to go Penguin -> Kajot? Did...

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#200)
    Quote Originally Posted by neopest (#199)
    i didn't much care for Schweppes reactions to certain posts, but i'm lazy and my hands hurt so i don't feel like scrolling up to quote.
    Isn't that a good sign?
    What caused you to go Penguin -> Kajot? Did Denmon do anything for ya wrt that?
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    Completed Not happy that two people are inferring that I...

    Not happy that two people are inferring that I was trying to fully handwave away Penguin when I pointed out a few issues that I had with him att. I just didn't want Axis and Schweppes to full send
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    Completed he said something in the signup thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sara Chidouin (#104)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#27)
    ngl, I could have posted early yesterday but decided to ration my posts, which probably wasn't needed.

    I disapprove of bad stats but Denmon's take on that is null. Don't see anything I dislike.

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#11)
    Quote Originally Posted by DENMON (#8)
    Also Schweppes is lock-town; never rescinding this read.

    I played with Schweppes like 3 times in light games and they were not that long ago as well, and Schweppes was red through all of em. If Schweppes is red again then holy $%#! xD
    I agree it’s pretty unlikely.

    BUT it wouldn’t be anywhere close to the longest scum streak I’ve seen someone have.

    So “lock” is too strong a word for me.


    He’s probably “due” a Town game though for sure. Despite that being bad statistics analysis technically.
    This post feels pretty skeevy. It's basically saying "I agree with this townread, BUT...", and debases the read, then wipes away the justification by accurately saying that it's a gambler's falacy anyway.

    -Agree with someone else's townread
    -Give a pretty big "but" to debase that townread on your end
    -Invalidate the justification.

    Don't like the post archetype. If there were like 200 posts or something at time of this post, or the justification for the townread was something I could agree with I'd probably go hard against it, early game is hard to do stuff so *shrug*

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#16)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#13)
    From this interaction, you, DENMON, look a bit scummier but it's not much. The reason is that it's easier for a mafia to give a town read rather than a mafia one
    “Interaction” is a heck of a strong word to apply to that too.

    Also DENMON didn’t give “a Town read”

    He gave what is essentially a temporary pass based on flawed probability. And even then I think it’s coming across more of a joke than a genuine stance on clearing Schweppes over it. He said much the same thing last game too and low and behold scum Scheppes turned up. So I think if Schweppes turned sketchy DENMON would walk it back


    You’re taking a real strong focus on it though. Slight scum leaning DENMON even over essentially nothing.


    Hmmmm
    Actually like this a lot. Particulaly in the context of Penguin wanting to TR axis. Only thing I'd want to add to it is Penguin says that the bad stats is fine and pretty much turns back on that.

    Schwepes is going kinda hard against a new player, I'd lean towards giving Denmon's take in #18 on that that it's ultimately w/e

    I think that I can sheep Kajot on Axis/Denmon meta. Kajot seems fineish I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#31)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#28)
    Some facts:

    Showing up to SoD is pro-town.
    (>90% of the time) Rationing posts for Eod is anti-town.
    eh, w/e.

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#29)
    Quote Originally Posted by DENMON (#23)
    he Penguin is town
    Now I like building a town core as much as the next guy.

    But I disagree with him being townie to that degree to say that.

    He's hedging.
    He's pocketing
    He's asking questions without caring about answers
    He's taking joke reads (the DENMON/Schweppes thing) too seriously
    He's scum leaning DENMON over townreading Scheppes (which wasn't actually a townread anyway)
    22 is talking for the sake of talking about Gnome and Kajot. Kajot in particular.


    I aint saying its sketchy enough for a vote yet, but its not not sketchy.

    And its certainly not "Penguin is town" worth for me.
    Penguin's Denmon/Scheppes takes aren't great yeah, but I don't feel that a lot of this falls outside the newish player general archetype. Particularly Penguin shoving in the two one posters and saying that he doesn't have a read on them. Not useful words, yeah. Would a newish player shove everybody who has 1+ posts on a list, probably. I have bigger issues with that the direction that his reads seem to change from #13 to #22 based on how people are receiving him.
    Bleh, on re-read Dolby actually looks worse.

    Dude's way too trusting of Kajot despite that Kajot hasn't really done much to show their alignment.

    Not liking how he soft-defended Penguin just by claiming that he's a new player without bothering to read the icy bird at all, as well. FMPoV I'd flip Dolby immediately if Penguin flips W.

    @Dolby

    How do you know that Penguin is a new player? He seems to be from another community.
    he said something in the signup thread
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    Completed eh, w/e. Penguin's Denmon/Scheppes takes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#28)
    Some facts:

    Showing up to SoD is pro-town.
    (>90% of the time) Rationing posts for Eod is anti-town.
    eh, w/e.

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#29)
    Quote Originally Posted by DENMON (#23)
    he Penguin is town
    Now I like building a town core as much as the next guy.

    But I disagree with him being townie to that degree to say that.

    He's hedging.
    He's pocketing
    He's asking questions without caring about answers
    He's taking joke reads (the DENMON/Schweppes thing) too seriously
    He's scum leaning DENMON over townreading Scheppes (which wasn't actually a townread anyway)
    22 is talking for the sake of talking about Gnome and Kajot. Kajot in particular.


    I aint saying its sketchy enough for a vote yet, but its not not sketchy.

    And its certainly not "Penguin is town" worth for me.
    Penguin's Denmon/Scheppes takes aren't great yeah, but I don't feel that a lot of this falls outside the newish player general archetype. Particularly Penguin shoving in the two one posters and saying that he doesn't have a read on them. Not useful words, yeah. Would a newish player shove everybody who has 1+ posts on a list, probably. I have bigger issues with that the direction that his reads seem to change from #13 to #22 based on how people are receiving him.
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    Completed ngl, I could have posted early yesterday but...

    ngl, I could have posted early yesterday but decided to ration my posts, which probably wasn't needed.

    I disapprove of bad stats but Denmon's take on that is null. Don't see anything I dislike.

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#11)
    Quote Originally Posted by DENMON (#8)
    Also Schweppes is lock-town; never rescinding this read.

    I played with Schweppes like 3 times in light games and they were not that long ago as well, and Schweppes was red through all of em. If Schweppes is red again then holy $%#! xD
    I agree it’s pretty unlikely.

    BUT it wouldn’t be anywhere close to the longest scum streak I’ve seen someone have.

    So “lock” is too strong a word for me.


    He’s probably “due” a Town game though for sure. Despite that being bad statistics analysis technically.
    This post feels pretty skeevy. It's basically saying "I agree with this townread, BUT...", and debases the read, then wipes away the justification by accurately saying that it's a gambler's falacy anyway.

    -Agree with someone else's townread
    -Give a pretty big "but" to debase that townread on your end
    -Invalidate the justification.

    Don't like the post archetype. If there were like 200 posts or something at time of this post, or the justification for the townread was something I could agree with I'd probably go hard against it, early game is hard to do stuff so *shrug*

    Quote Originally Posted by AXIS (#16)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Penguin (#13)
    From this interaction, you, DENMON, look a bit scummier but it's not much. The reason is that it's easier for a mafia to give a town read rather than a mafia one
    “Interaction” is a heck of a strong word to apply to that too.

    Also DENMON didn’t give “a Town read”

    He gave what is essentially a temporary pass based on flawed probability. And even then I think it’s coming across more of a joke than a genuine stance on clearing Schweppes over it. He said much the same thing last game too and low and behold scum Scheppes turned up. So I think if Schweppes turned sketchy DENMON would walk it back


    You’re taking a real strong focus on it though. Slight scum leaning DENMON even over essentially nothing.


    Hmmmm
    Actually like this a lot. Particulaly in the context of Penguin wanting to TR axis. Only thing I'd want to add to it is Penguin says that the bad stats is fine and pretty much turns back on that.

    Schwepes is going kinda hard against a new player, I'd lean towards giving Denmon's take in #18 on that that it's ultimately w/e

    I think that I can sheep Kajot on Axis/Denmon meta. Kajot seems fineish I guess.
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    Light /in

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    Manual /sub don't have time on 7th - 9th to be in

    /sub

    don't have time on 7th - 9th to be in
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    Sign-Up I'm in

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    Sticky: Me and Ace Marvel are the backups. I'm backing up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Esooa (#259)
    I'm representing cfc :3
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiml (#260)
    Here to rep CFC main forums!
    Me and @Ace Marvel are the backups. I'm backing up Esooa for CFC MU and Ace is backing up Wiml for CFC main
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    MS Paint Confirm

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#42)
    It's Kpop time!!! @Dolby and I are ready to do some painting.
    Confirm
  45. Sticky: Second #abraxasstaywinning

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor Swift (#119)
    i nominate abraxas
    Second

    #abraxasstaywinning
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    /sub

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    Completed +1 Guillo decided the kill, but I would...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#3620)
    Last words.

    I think if CutePanda would have had clout in this community, he would have hurt us bad. I think that it happens in every community where newbies are not given the cred they deserve for being noobs.
    I remember having great reads on seasoned scum players and getting yeeted because I didn't have the credibility or the clout to town to sheep them and I think CutePanda and Wurzel suffered the same fate, hence why we picked them to carry them to final 5. Let it be this a lesson that fresh players may have better reads because their are not spoiled with meta reads clouding their judgement.

    If the night kills didn't make sense it was because instead of killing those scum reading me, I killed those townreading us to make town think that wolves were targeting players whose mission was to town hunt, not to scum hunt. That said, LordArgon kept me on check on one occasion and forced me to kill Esooa instead of Gordeau (and rightly so).

    Thanks everyone for playing. Thank you to the host for an amazing game and a great attitude and please don't deathtunnel me in the future for this win. lol

    Cheers
    +1

    Guillo decided the kill, but I would personally have not have killed Wurzel or Panda for pretty much the reasons that Guillo made this post. I'd add to it that I personally feel that players newer a community tend to be yeeted more often for bad reasons. Ace was somebody that I briefly considered killing N6, but we both felt that Gordeau was more likely to re-ev, lead against us, and was more townread at that time to boot.
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    Completed tbh I loosely thought you were maf siding

    Quote Originally Posted by Marluxion (#3607)
    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#3601)
    gg Konrade
    did the mafia figure out that i was basically a LW?
    tbh I loosely thought you were maf siding
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    Completed I don't want to play, bye CutePanda

    I don't want to play, bye

    ##Vote CutePanda
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    Completed Hey Don't remember the exact dynamics of the...

    Hey

    Don't remember the exact dynamics of the situation given that we don't have a crossvote, but Wurzel should be next to vote as somebody being voted.

    Me/Ace order doesn't matter
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