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  1. Day 2#5201

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    Completed dusk is town - dusk doesnt play this way from an...

    Quote Originally Posted by Perplexity (#5199)
    'flimsy' list with plenty of holes cause I've missed big chunks of thread

    Super town: Super Taco Object SPF BK
    Nulls Omino
    Do whatever you want with them: shady - cyborg - bobert
    Candidates for the scum award: marex - Dusk - Happy
    dusk is town - dusk doesnt play this way from an informed pov tbqh
  2. Day 2#5200

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    Completed https://youtu.be/Na9x4CPAsOY

  3. Day 2#5189

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    Completed bro what

    bro what
  4. Day 2#5187

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    Completed I went sadnixon mode

    I went sadnixon mode
  5. Day 2#5184

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    Completed If you wanna talk PoE opening can i introduce u...

    If you wanna talk PoE opening can i introduce u to waza?
  6. Day 2#5183

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    Completed My poe is only 4 ppl atp??

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#5180)
    im still paranoid that koba is a wolf trying to open up the POE but theyre probably town so w/e
    My poe is only 4 ppl atp??
  7. Day 2#5178

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    Completed this also means the solve is probably...

    this also means the solve is probably nightmare/omin/waza
  8. Day 2#5177

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    Completed random but i think object is town now no tinfoil

    random but i think object is town now no tinfoil
  9. Day 2#5163

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    Completed Dont use roleblock on me please, i may have lied...

    Quote Originally Posted by julia (#5151)
    im gonna continue packing fr but if this gets hammered before i can come -

    TOWN LEGACY
    Bobert
    Taco
    Spf
    Happy

    If marex is maf im gonna use my trap as a roleblocker on someone within C4/Shady/Omni/Duskfall/Object to try to hit the factional killer (1/2 chance if i hit a mafia)

    If marex is town I’m gonna use it as a protector for someone I think is most likely to be nightkilled (and not souped)

    @SPF this makes sense right?
    Dont use roleblock on me please, i may have lied about how many shots i have of my ability which still prob is useless lol
  10. Day 2#5132

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    Completed Y u think i gave it a 🧐🧐🧐

    Quote Originally Posted by julia (#5131)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#5023)
    Quote Originally Posted by bobert789 (#5022)
    This is like terrible for marex standards like I’ve been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but wtf was last night
    I realized that waiting for nightmarex to show didn't help anything. Nightmarex will probably flip town. However, if it turns out that both nightmarex and English Opening flip mafia on their yeet, I'm going to feel so bad for their team.
    wait this is a weird read considering marex was his poe earlier
    Y u think i gave it a 🧐🧐🧐
  11. Day 2#5061

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    Completed 🧐

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#5023)
    Quote Originally Posted by bobert789 (#5022)
    This is like terrible for marex standards like I’ve been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but wtf was last night
    I realized that waiting for nightmarex to show didn't help anything. Nightmarex will probably flip town. However, if it turns out that both nightmarex and English Opening flip mafia on their yeet, I'm going to feel so bad for their team.
    🧐
  12. Day 2#5021

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    Completed woke up ready to murder nightmare today

    woke up ready to murder nightmare today
  13. Day 2#4907

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    Completed well u got omin already bussing and nightmare...

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#4905)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4900)
    bc like if we remember how creature was - many people were very set on killing creature to the point scum probably wanted nothing to do with that wagon to distance from it bc it looked so likely.

    maximum 1 scum there and its object if anything.
    i disagree when we consider the fact that the counterwagon to creature in most cases was krista, and maf would be directly incentivized to help keep krista alive

    like the thought that none of the wolves joined the creature wagon at any point in spite of it being their best shot to save krista from getting killed means they would be asleep at the wheel

    well u got omin already bussing and nightmare being.. nightmare so theres 2 accounted for IMO!
  14. Day 2#4906

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    Completed i replaced into a game where someone insisted...

    i replaced into a game where someone insisted that scum had to be on a specific wagon that flipped jester and that ultimately won me the game so im like extra wary of that kind of $%#! bc i know people can get extremely confbiased into it.
  15. Day 2#4904

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    Completed that is to say i think that dusk/super/shady have...

    that is to say i think that dusk/super/shady have good reasons to be town and if object is town do not look at that votecount and think "oh that means it HAS to be one of dusk/shady/super"
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    Completed bc like if we remember how creature was - many...

    bc like if we remember how creature was - many people were very set on killing creature to the point scum probably wanted nothing to do with that wagon to distance from it bc it looked so likely.

    maximum 1 scum there and its object if anything.
  17. Day 2#4898

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    Completed hi i am doing something else b4 i finally sleep...

    hi i am doing something else b4 i finally sleep but i see this wagon analysis talk and i remind ppl to actually read the context around the post bc i dont want people to flip object then chain into super shady and duskfall all in a row when i find the latter 3 townie for reasons that transcend vote count analysis - which is the worst way to try to sort people.
  18. Day 2#4798

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    Completed https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?si...

    Quote Originally Posted by shady (#4797)
    i'm gonna teach you guys a lesson about mafia

    it's actually not a surefire sign of scum to be fence sitty on a read!

    in fact, it's quite abnormal to be extremely confident about a read d1! if anything, it's a sign of lack of self awareness!

    I don't think it's a good way to play!
  19. Day 2#4766

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    Completed nightmare popping in to do a little show and then...

    nightmare popping in to do a little show and then leaving without dropping any reads do be NAGL
  20. Day 2#4755

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    Completed https://i.imgur.com/ZVoAGac.png never forget

    never forget
  21. Day 2#4746

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    Completed brad actually had the hero case on him ^^

    brad actually had the hero case on him ^^
  22. Day 2#4739

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    Completed https://epicmafia.com/topic/96481

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy (#4738)
    Link me the game then
    https://epicmafia.com/topic/96481
  23. Day 2#4737

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    Completed i jsut switched to my alt discord just to find...

    i jsut switched to my alt discord just to find the receipts for the game
  24. Day 2#4736

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    Completed spf was in that game anne as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy (#4734)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4732)
    no he genuinely played really well. i dont give praise to scumplay easily.
    who was the strongest town in that lobby
    spf was in that game

    anne as well
  25. Day 2#4732

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    Completed no he genuinely played really well. i dont give...

    no he genuinely played really well. i dont give praise to scumplay easily.
  26. Day 2#4729

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    Completed or rather was only caught bc of Jeff's posting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4727)
    i think its weird that you say omin is out of scumrange when the only recorded scumgame that i've seen from omin in longform forum format is a deleted game that I hosted that omin replaced into and immediately snowed several people for a while and was only caught via PoE
    or rather was only caught bc of Jeff's posting and not his own IIRC
  27. Day 2#4727

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    Completed i think its weird that you say omin is out of...

    i think its weird that you say omin is out of scumrange when the only recorded scumgame that i've seen from omin in longform forum format is a deleted game that I hosted that omin replaced into and immediately snowed several people for a while and was only caught via PoE
  28. Day 2#4720

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    Completed talk to us about your ominoire read

    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarex (#4718)
    happy / spf / perplexity / ominoire not the team anymore

    since krista mafia

    that is okay

    still highly possible to get 3 out of 4
    talk to us about your ominoire read
  29. Day 2#4719

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    Completed pretend ur reading nightmare like they are marry...

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#4717)
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarex (#4715)
    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#4709)
    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarex (#4706)
    broski look i just had a 3 hour drive home do not need to hear this from you ongod

    take this negativity somewhere else
    are u really saying that you didnt look at the flip even once within the last 27 hours? i think that ur lying
    thonk

    u think if i look at thread i not post POWERFUL chat?

    kek double you

    ok no more negativity only SOLVES incoming
    i dont understand
    pretend ur reading nightmare like they are marry - think performativeness over solviness. ik u already figured that out but if you consider this a perfomance post it makes sense.
  30. Day 2#4711

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    Completed i have literally never misread shady ever - even...

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy (#4705)
    Also koba I wanted nmare dead more than anyone d1 so ur argument I don’t want him to die if he’s maf and strong wolf pr is just wrong

    I think ur just really pocketed by shady and super which is affecting ur read on me since I’m correctly fossing them

    i have literally never misread shady ever - even when he played with me on a secret alt.

    you also dont get to claim you were genuinely pushing nightmare while you are trying your hardest to get a counterwagon to him going rn.
  31. Day 2#4697

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    Completed i should go to sleep

    i should go to sleep
  32. Day 2#4695

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    Completed when i say defend - i dont want to get jumped on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4692)
    feeling a vastly similar vibe from waza here defending nightmare similarly to how krista was subtly doing so and as well like i feel nightmare might flip a really strong scum role because of this bc otherwise u would just hardbus nightmare i feel
    when i say defend - i dont want to get jumped on for semantics - i mean this in like a sneaky roundabout way where one pushes alternative wagons while strictly trying to wave away the main one that is formed.
  33. Day 2#4692

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    Completed feeling a vastly similar vibe from waza here...

    feeling a vastly similar vibe from waza here defending nightmare similarly to how krista was subtly doing so and as well like i feel nightmare might flip a really strong scum role because of this bc otherwise u would just hardbus nightmare i feel
  34. Day 2#4689

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    Completed i got the mech info right here: ...

    i got the mech info right here:

  35. Day 2#4681

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    Completed Waza, why did you vote nightmare here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy (#1980)
    ##Vote nightmarex
    Waza, why did you vote nightmare here?
  36. Day 2#4678

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    Completed mechanically it doesnt make sense for a team with...

    Quote Originally Posted by staypositivefriend (#4677)
    btw duskfall is hard POE for me until anyone can give me a reason to tr him that isnt tone
    mechanically it doesnt make sense for a team with duskfall to kill alexa after she led a shot on creature who flipped town from an informed PoV - esp since she was hard shielding him.
  37. Day 2#4653

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    Completed shady if you haven't logged off yet - pls...

    @shady if you haven't logged off yet - pls consider voting nightmare today with me ? i tbh dont have it in me to consider waza when hes in my variable scum pile while nightmare is in my "yeah im sure this is scum" pile.

    probably selfish to ask but i also kinda wanna save u bc like this feels like creature 2.0
  38. Day 2#4650

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    Completed Super can we kill nightmare? i rly think shady is...

    @Super can we kill nightmare? i rly think shady is town and I have a strong track record to prove it and for the record this was me in Fire Emblem hood chat on shady after some discussion about him and landing on a townread on him:

    I had the same hesitance here as there at the start to townread him but once he AtEd(which showed the towny passion) it was like more or less clear it was town shady

  39. Day 2#4624

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    Completed bc im threatening his deepwolf strategy bc he...

    Quote Originally Posted by julia (#4622)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#4618)
    Quote Originally Posted by Perplexity (#4617)
    MAN oh MAN OH MAN

    on 1st page of Krista and she's all 'yes Sir yes Sir' the more Taco pushes like a maniac

    she felt stressed but HOW SURPRISING she makes sure to let us know Taco is town even if he pushes hard

    very reminiscent of Taco's push onto Omini

    WE NEED TO SOLVE THE TACO through some townie ability since he's widely townread
    As much as I'm fine with killing off the Taco, there's better people to vote out.
    im confused how taco is on the table here?
    bc im threatening his deepwolf strategy bc he decided to try to set me up for a future mislim thinking I don't pay attention
  40. Day 2#4599

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    Completed its actually something I really suck at...

    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4597)
    this kind of context analysis where you compare what the current gamestate is to someone's actions rather than just looking only at the action is how i ended up sniping marry and spf as teammates in Fire Emblem - so i know its a tried and true method that works.
    its actually something I really suck at replicating as scum still fwiw bc its a layer of complexity that is hard to frame someone for unless you get lucky
  41. Day 2#4597

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    Completed this kind of context analysis where you compare...

    this kind of context analysis where you compare what the current gamestate is to someone's actions rather than just looking only at the action is how i ended up sniping marry and spf as teammates in Fire Emblem - so i know its a tried and true method that works.
  42. Day 2#4595

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    Completed yes context is everything and thats strictly why...

    Quote Originally Posted by julia (#4583)
    hey so i plan on doing a comprehensive analysis later tonight but i had this thought that i needa share before i forget

    i think its very likely that krista / the maf teams goal was for krista to survive d1 and prepare to bus or sac herself d2 or d3 - she was only a one shot strongman

    i could see a very world where she busses someone day1 in preparation to distance herself from them for them to carry after she gets sac’d (ex. nightmare or omni)

    i could see a world where omni proposed a krista bw because at the time he thought it was very unlikely to happen and he was going to continue to push her d2 and d3 to try to get the hinter ability used

    due to this theory i think only the people who REALLY pushed a krista d1 lynch during the time it was plausible to happen (ie end of day me and spf and taco) are much townier than ones who pushed it earlier

    so yeah im now tinfoiling omni (maybe even duskfall but i needa be at my computer and rdy in my headspace to consider that)
    yes context is everything and thats strictly why i stuck on krista with the whole creature debacle and really started to hard push her - because while in a vacuum without looking at votecounts her creature towncase was fine - but she also didnt care about actaully saving him when he was a competing wagon with someone she said she didnt townread.
  43. Day 2#4579

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    Completed i understand how shady felt d1 now lmao

    i understand how shady felt d1 now lmao
  44. Day 2#4578

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    Completed now ur just openly laughing at how much u can get...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ominoire (#4574)
    Quote Originally Posted by Perplexity (#4571)
    we need to solve omni at some point - he made me doubt my taco lean

    I feel as if he's trying to distort things
    You're not wrong.
    now ur just openly laughing at how much u can get away with, aren't you. You know I got you pinned and this post is aimed to specifically laugh at how much people are never going to go against you here because of your krista bus.




    ok its time to step away the mafia is making me have Emotions and I have a headache too which isnt helping.


    to object: i am 2/2 in flipped reads so far on key slots. if youre hunting for people deepwolfing you should try omin who is lost after pushing over krista and trying to get c4 mislimmed now to save scum nightmare
  45. Day 2#4575

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    Completed a classic scum koba trait amirite

    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4573)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4572)
    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4569)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4567)
    no one had any real reason to push krista ur right her entrance was totally NAI nothing weird abt it.
    what was wrong with her entrance?
    stop wasting my posts with this bull$%#!.

    if you want to be useful go vote nightmare
    every time you can't answer a question you get angry and make insult πŸ€”
    a classic scum koba trait amirite
  46. Day 2#4572

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    Completed stop wasting my posts with this bull$%#!. if...

    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4569)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4567)
    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4566)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4565)
    ok waste ur vote then idc
    admit you had no real reason to push krista
    no one had any real reason to push krista ur right her entrance was totally NAI nothing weird abt it.
    what was wrong with her entrance?
    stop wasting my posts with this bull$%#!.

    if you want to be useful go vote nightmare
  47. Day 2#4568

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    Completed julia and I are scum laughing it up in the scum...

    julia and I are scum laughing it up in the scum server making memes about how town will never trace the bus back to us u are so right object
  48. Day 2#4567

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    Completed no one had any real reason to push krista ur...

    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4566)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4565)
    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4563)
    my vote remains parked on koba until they can convince me there was actual reasoning behind the krista push

    ok waste ur vote then idc
    admit you had no real reason to push krista
    no one had any real reason to push krista ur right her entrance was totally NAI nothing weird abt it.
  49. Day 2#4565

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    Completed ok waste ur vote then idc

    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4563)
    my vote remains parked on koba until they can convince me there was actual reasoning behind the krista push

    ok waste ur vote then idc
  50. Day 2#4559

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    Completed ok idc i have 1 pelt you have 0

    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4555)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4550)
    Quote Originally Posted by Object (#4547)
    Quote Originally Posted by Taco Hemingway (#4544)
    krista literally towncased creature and only out of desperate self pres decided to try to push the slot at the end when people started to want to flashwagon creature..

    so yes, trying to push creature there *was* outting.
    so town can't self pres vote? specifically krista as town?
    not in that way!

    also krista is a dead woofer so I am not entertaining your line of moonlogic here.
    logic says a -> b and b doesn't imply a

    your read being sensible -> krista is wolf and krista actually being wolf doesn't imply your read was sensible
    ok idc i have 1 pelt you have 0
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