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Originally Posted by Limestone 1655180896 (#2656)

and it said that night2/Day 3, not sure about earlier

Fixed.

Originally Posted by Limestone 1654974925 (#2560)

oh yeah might want to mention to makaze

my 2 shot was only for ninja and after using it night1 I still had 2 shots or at least it said still 2 shots remaining

we know the ninja went through cause Transcend tracked me so it shouldn't have said 2 uses left

@Limestone where did it say this and when

This is not a priority at this time.

Originally Posted by Kaiveran 1654411555 (#355)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1654356185 (#354)

Originally Posted by Kaiveran 1654322251 (#314)

@Makaze

I suppose now is as good a time as any

I was having a weird account-related issue where this game thread took forever to load on the account I'm playing on (Ratatwanged Panda), but just fine on this one. Might have something to do with Infinite Scroll.

EDIT: Happening with the dead thread too.

Infinite scroll is probably to blame, aye.

If it's not actually working for you, maybe stop using it?

If I use it when it's working, I suck slightly less at turbos. But okay :/

There have not been any unusual server loads and there is nothing going wrong on a coding level. I can't fix a connection problem if there's no evidence it's on my end.

Originally Posted by Kaiveran 1654322251 (#314)

@Makaze

I suppose now is as good a time as any

I was having a weird account-related issue where this game thread took forever to load on the account I'm playing on (Ratatwanged Panda), but just fine on this one. Might have something to do with Infinite Scroll.

EDIT: Happening with the dead thread too.

Infinite scroll is probably to blame, aye.

If it's not actually working for you, maybe stop using it?

Originally Posted by Zugzwang 1654048144 (#2503)

ftr, I am actually new to the site, and I genuinely did not know how to clear multiquotes

i did not account for not having eyes

I knew sOH was a wolf from the instant they shot blade but I was blinded by my Twice tunnel.

We could have won if I made the right shot. Sorry team.

Originally Posted by katze 1653823539 (#9)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653822008 (#8)

Added:

Firefighter
Suicide Bomber
Healer
Neapolitan
Vanilla Cop
Day Desperado
Night Desperado

Framer was already there.

i love you makdaddy

are these all intended to be added to JOATs as well (not objecting to them, just not sure)

Yes.

Added:

Firefighter
Suicide Bomber
Healer
Neapolitan
Vanilla Cop
Day Desperado
Night Desperado

Framer was already there.

Done. Thanks for the report!

sOH is just scum lol

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653782071 (#2154)

If they didn't select someone it would default to kotze, right?

they are compulsive so if they don't select anyone it will Rand

assuming it's a real claim

Who wants to be third vote on Zug

@kotze
@sOHiJK
@Thinking
@West

Stay where you are Kuti

Originally Posted by Kuti plz 1653781448 (#2144)

Should I vote twice or someone else? I don't fully grasp the mech of how the voting set up should be for this thing

We want Zug at 3 and someone else in Poe at 2 for eod

I want that second person to be twice but kotze is mechanically a good pick

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653781268 (#2140)

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653781214 (#2138)

There's 0 chance town has 2 day vigs and mafia have none so if you believe kuti this is where to go, which is why the suicide bomb should be on sohijk in an ideal world

If sOH is a mafia even cycle day vig they present no additional threat to us than a mafia goon right now.

that's a good mechanical argument tbh

I rescind my point

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653780848 (#2133)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653780490 (#2132)

Do you have any particular reason to suspect kotze other than they're in the poe

No, what's the mechanically good reason to kill twice?

it's more or a mechanically bad reason to kill kotze

because they are flaking

sOH is a fine choice

Do you have any particular reason to suspect kotze other than they're in the poe

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653780218 (#2130)

##Vote kotze

This is mechanically bad IMO

@West can you vote Twice with me if you like this strategy

It should go off ~1 minute to EOD.

Originally Posted by Kuti plz 1653776507 (#2117)

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653774810 (#2115)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653774331 (#2111)

What do we want to do if Zug doesn't show?

@kotze
@Kuti plz
@Makaze
@sOHiJK
@Thinking
@Twice Shrunk
@West
@wiggles1993
@Zugzwang

If they claimed compulsive, we can make them top wagon and then have scum behind them

Wdym

Vote for Zug at 3, with a scum at 2.

If Zug is lying, they die. If not, and they don't show, then someone gets bombed at random. Unless it's exactly the person at 2 votes, then that person gets eliminated because they are the new highest wagon.

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653774810 (#2115)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653774331 (#2111)

What do we want to do if Zug doesn't show?

@kotze
@Kuti plz
@Makaze
@sOHiJK
@Thinking
@Twice Shrunk
@West
@wiggles1993
@Zugzwang

If they claimed compulsive, we can make them top wagon and then have scum behind them

You are a genius.

I'm staying on Twice then.

Glad we agree

What do we want to do if Zug doesn't show?

@kotze
@Kuti plz
@Makaze
@sOHiJK
@Thinking
@Twice Shrunk
@West
@wiggles1993
@Zugzwang

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653761781 (#2104)

Just fyi, if kotze is town, mafia will be able to hammer any town with a single town vote on them

Correct.

Zug not bombing yet is nagl

We always go there by EOD with no bomb.

It could be they are scum bomber and are waiting for a wagon on a town to form or are just not a bomber.

Originally Posted by Zugzwang 1653493514 (#1233)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653473553 (#823)

@Zugzwang

Are you hardclaiming d2 compulsive suicide bomber in such a way that if you rescind we should consider you scum?

If so, give us a time at least 2 hours before EOD d2 at which you promise to use your suicide bomb. If you refuse to make such a promise, or miss your deadline, you will be eliminated with great prejudice.

Yes I'm hardclaiming it. I'll bomb at 2 pm EST Saturday, or earlier.

Anyway, do you use the forums on mobile or PC?

@Zugzwang

7 minutes!

I believe her claim and not shooting is mechanically bad as both alignments. Holstering there only comes from town even if it's bad mechanically speaking.

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653753951 (#2093)

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653751311 (#2085)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653734012 (#2070)

@West

Please don't vote the mechanically cleared player when mafia have enough votes to maj.

I'm slightly concerned, because you seemed sure that Twice was scum before this, hence mafia wouldn't be sble to maj.

I'm arguing from West's POV. I believe they couldn't mak and they'd want to wait go Zug anyway

Word salad lol

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653751311 (#2085)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653734012 (#2070)

@West

Please don't vote the mechanically cleared player when mafia have enough votes to maj.

I'm slightly concerned, because you seemed sure that Twice was scum before this, hence mafia wouldn't be sble to maj.

I'm arguing from West's POV. I believe they couldn't mak and they'd want to wait go Zug anyway

oh wait th3 blade shot was today and was sOH

But she did claim odd day vig not night vig

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653751007 (#2082)

To be honest mak, I believe Zug west thinking and yourself are town so it doesn't matter what my opinion is on twice, though you may have to do some work on kuti if you believe they are an odd night vig. I doubt mafia can kill her and they have to hope she shoots me

She claimed odd day vig iirc? And shot blade

Obviously yes

We have to lim Zug if they don't show for any reason too

I'm convinced the only reason you're flippantly sticking to your guns on this nonsense read is that you're scum and you've decided which elims you need to win.

Kuti is also obvtown.

Your entire readlist is towns.

We have to kill within soh and kotze. Those are your two options. Pick one.

Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk 1653744399 (#2073)

i dont get what perp died for nor why thinking was cleared off it

Cliffs:
- I suspected Perp
- Perp threw a fit they said you got me I'm scum, I give up, I knew as soon as Makaze suspected me it was over
- Wasn't taken seriously yet
- Thinking outed they doused Perp N1 and could ignite them N3, kept reminding me of it when I said we should bomb them today
- Perp said don't ignite me that's IRL triggering
- I said that's BS and should be ignored by the players, you can't use out of game stuff to control normal play in a mafia game
- Thinking said he doesn't care, he's not going to cause trauma, gonna be decent about it, and we can kill them another way, gives assent to bombing/elim/etc
- Perp threw. Trueclaimed Mafia Backup. Offered to post their role PM to get modkilled
- Perp got modkilled

... I used mechanically cleared but it's not mechanics.

Bad habit.

Solid clear.*

@West

Please don't vote the mechanically cleared player when mafia have enough votes to maj.

It's never Thinking

where is sOH

Thought: If Zug misses, Maj goes down to 4, and mafia can make with 1 bad vote.

Originally Posted by Thinking 1653691944 (#2049)

Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk 1653689808 (#2046)

lol perp uh

that was unideal in some ways

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653691649 (#2047)

Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk 1653689808 (#2046)

lol perp uh

that was unideal in some ways

Ye made the thinking mislynch pretty tough

If this is w/w though.

Considering the flips so far I believe it's possible

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653689553 (#2043)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653689347 (#2042)

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653688552 (#2035)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653688481 (#2034)

@wiggles1993 Can you do that reread of Twice for me?

No you put me in your Poe and I'm protesting

In all seriousness, if I assume you're town then my POE is kotze, sOHiJK, Twice Shrunk. Who are you swapping out of this POE, and for who?

Sleepin on kuti, I don't know them so I don't know if they're an emotional manipulation type of player

What's your preferred elimination order

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653688552 (#2035)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653688481 (#2034)

@wiggles1993 Can you do that reread of Twice for me?

No you put me in your Poe and I'm protesting

In all seriousness, if I assume you're town then my POE is kotze, sOHiJK, Twice Shrunk. Who are you swapping out of this POE, and for who?

What does everyone think of my Thinking clear?

@kotze
@Kuti plz
@Makaze
@sOHiJK
@Thinking
@Twice Shrunk
@West
@wiggles1993
@Zugzwang

Originally Posted by wiggles1993 1653688552 (#2035)

Originally Posted by Makaze 1653688481 (#2034)

@wiggles1993 Can you do that reread of Twice for me?

No you put me in your Poe and I'm protesting

The only way out of the box is through

@wiggles1993 Can you do that reread of Twice for me?

I am going to sheep West and Kuti on me clearing wiggles too easily.

Thinking and Perp's interaction clears Thinking. That makes the game pretty much locked.

Lock town:

Thinking
West
Zugzwang
Kuti plz

POE:

kotze
sOHiJK
Twice Shrunk
wiggles1993

It takes 5 to hammer now.

Originally Posted by Kuti plz 1653674149 (#2015)

Game is silent

You said you needed flips to form reads

Can you give me a full list of reads?

Do not bomb Kuti

I'm hard shielding them like I did with Dum

For anyone who isn't sure on Twice and still doesn't see any problem:

Every single one of Twice's poe besides kotze has flipped town. Twice is now flopping to Kuti for no reason and voting for Thinking while not pushing kotze at all.