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    Sticky: Mantichora can you please cancel my game? Ty

    @Mantichora can you please cancel my game? Ty
  2. Day 2#3463

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Im sorry if anything that I said got under your...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3458)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sett (#3447)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3392)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3386)
    ?
    I know you love bussing so don't pull this $%#!
    Like im Venti-proof, your weird reactions tests mean nothing to me, if you want to push me by all means, im the most boring of all players a vanilla, I literally can't care less if I die, my role is not relevant.

    This will be another you were wrong game we can add to the list, right now we are like 0 right 8743 wrong.
    Do you not see how this type of posting is a problem @Ace Marvel ?
    Each game he calls me lock scum, names, and every time I flip town I just get a lol.
    it's the same story time and time again, and sorry if it annoys you, but I''m legit over it.

    Since I started playing here I been called annoying, bad, useless, fodder, low hanging fruit.
    now add narcissist and manipulative.

    And from all of this you take that, I'm sorry but why?
    Do you want me to quit, do you want me to feel bad for once defending myself? what's your endgame?

    I have literally never done anything to you and you are picking sides to whoever.

    Why do I have to let everything pass while people can curse at me and call me names?

    real question Sett. If you don't like me that's totally fine, if I have learned anything from being here is that you don't have to be liked by everyone.

    And yes entering a game and having an aggressive response that im not playing and reading is not ideal, that excaleted, I wish it didn't.

    And someone linking wikipedia pages and calling me scum irl is okay.

    If we are going to pretend I'm the bad guy and the only at fault here, fine. At least that will be speaking with honesty.
    Im sorry if anything that I said got under your nerves, I'm just tired of people constantly pushing me into the dirt and making fun of me.
    I know that I've made wrong decisions in the past, but I don't need other people telling me that.
  3. Day 2#3449

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Here goes the narcissm, I can read this guy like...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3446)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3444)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3440)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3438)
    I honestly hope that you are so dumb that you didn't realise that game after game people just constantly stomp me into the dirt, and that everyone makes fun of me and ignores me.
    a) I'm not everyone
    b) the only comment I have made about your reads is related to mine
    c) you are the one calling people names

    If you need to lash at someone fine I can handle it, but don't pretend you are in the right here.
    Again you are proving my point.

    Trying to come out on the conversation on top is a show of Machiavellianism.
    So it still comes to:
    You are either scum in game or scum irl.
    Either way you should die (in game)
    Machiavellianism =/= being the bigger person and not calling other names
    Here goes the narcissm, I can read this guy like an open book
  4. Day 2#3444

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Again you are proving my point. Trying to come...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3440)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3438)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3435)
    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#3431)
    venti i feel like you are lashing out at ace for the sum of people whove made fun of your ability to read them at ace, who is also lashing out at you for the sum of people whove mistakenly tunneled him

    basically you both seem to have ptsd and im not sure what the best solution is but its probably not this
    Im not calling people narcissistic and manipulative, and I went for venti's read and he took it personal.
    I honestly hope that you are so dumb that you didn't realise that game after game people just constantly stomp me into the dirt, and that everyone makes fun of me and ignores me.
    a) I'm not everyone
    b) the only comment I have made about your reads is related to mine
    c) you are the one calling people names

    If you need to lash at someone fine I can handle it, but don't pretend you are in the right here.
    Again you are proving my point.

    Trying to come out on the conversation on top is a show of Machiavellianism.
    So it still comes to:
    You are either scum in game or scum irl.
    Either way you should die (in game)
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    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed I honestly hope that you are so dumb that you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3435)
    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#3431)
    venti i feel like you are lashing out at ace for the sum of people whove made fun of your ability to read them at ace, who is also lashing out at you for the sum of people whove mistakenly tunneled him

    basically you both seem to have ptsd and im not sure what the best solution is but its probably not this
    Im not calling people narcissistic and manipulative, and I went for venti's read and he took it personal.
    I honestly hope that you are so dumb that you didn't realise that game after game people just constantly stomp me into the dirt, and that everyone makes fun of me and ignores me.
  6. Day 2#3432

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Narcissism is easy to spot

    Quote Originally Posted by polypies (#3430)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3428)
    Ace Marvel is scum for displaying Machiavellianism behaviors in thread rn.
    That being said Ace Marvel is prolly also insecure :/
    you are so right! omg what analysis!
    Narcissism is easy to spot
  7. Day 2#3428

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    Completed Ace Marvel is scum for displaying...

    Ace Marvel is scum for displaying Machiavellianism behaviors in thread rn.
    That being said Ace Marvel is prolly also insecure :/
  8. Day 2#3415

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Why are you no longer having fun putting others...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3413)
    Anyways, I won't keep going with this.
    Why are you no longer having fun putting others down?
  9. Day 2#3410

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad I...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3408)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3402)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3401)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3399)
    You are scum both in game and irl
    Going for personal attacks, wow.
    Thanks for proving my point
    that you are acting like a child because you don't know how to read me? yes.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

    I didn't realise they made a Wikipedia page about you
  10. Day 2#3402

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Thanks for proving my point :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3401)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3399)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3398)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3396)
    not trying to be funny, don't get bitter get better
    Don't antagonize people
    You are scum both in game and irl
    Going for personal attacks, wow.
    Thanks for proving my point
  11. Day 2#3399

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed You are scum both in game and irl

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3398)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3396)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3395)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3392)
    Like im Venti-proof, your weird reactions tests mean nothing to me, if you want to push me by all means, im the most boring of all players a vanilla, I literally can't care less if I die, my role is not relevant.

    This will be another you were wrong game we can add to the list, right now we are like 0 right 8743 wrong.
    shut up you aren't funny
    not trying to be funny, don't get bitter get better
    Don't antagonize people
    You are scum both in game and irl
  12. Day 2#3398

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Don't antagonize people

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3396)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3395)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3392)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3386)
    ?
    I know you love bussing so don't pull this $%#!
    Like im Venti-proof, your weird reactions tests mean nothing to me, if you want to push me by all means, im the most boring of all players a vanilla, I literally can't care less if I die, my role is not relevant.

    This will be another you were wrong game we can add to the list, right now we are like 0 right 8743 wrong.
    shut up you aren't funny
    not trying to be funny, don't get bitter get better
    Don't antagonize people
  13. Day 2#3395

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed shut up you aren't funny

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3392)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3386)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3380)
    I have high wolf equity with xenox lol

    nothing screams wolf working together like one voting for the next one to clear them 3 post later...
    ?
    I know you love bussing so don't pull this $%#!
    Like im Venti-proof, your weird reactions tests mean nothing to me, if you want to push me by all means, im the most boring of all players a vanilla, I literally can't care less if I die, my role is not relevant.

    This will be another you were wrong game we can add to the list, right now we are like 0 right 8743 wrong.
    shut up you aren't funny
  14. Day 2#3386

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed ? I know you love bussing so don't pull this $%#!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3380)
    I have high wolf equity with xenox lol

    nothing screams wolf working together like one voting for the next one to clear them 3 post later...
    ?
    I know you love bussing so don't pull this $%#!
  15. Day 2#3379

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed TripleHaven Ace marvel disagree with you. But...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3377)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3374)
    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#3362)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3360)
    why give evidence when no one is going to listen to me anyways
    A self-fulfilling prophecy is the sociopsychological phenomenon of someone "predicting" or expecting something, and this "prediction" or expectation coming true simply because the person believes or anticipates it will[1] and the person's resulting behaviors align to fulfill the belief. This suggests that people's beliefs influence their actions. The principle behind this phenomenon is that people create consequences regarding people or events, based on previous knowledge of the subject.

    There are three factors within an environment that can come together to influence the likelihood of a self-fulfilling prophecy becoming a reality: appearance, perception and belief.[2] When a phenomenon cannot be seen, appearance is what we rely upon when a self-fulfilling prophecy is in place.[2] When it comes to a self-fulfilling prophecy there also must be a distinction "between 'brute and institutional' facts".[3] The philosopher John Searle states the difference as "facts [that] exist independently of any human institutions; institutional facts can only exist within institutions." There is an inability of institutional facts to be self-fulfilling. For example, the old belief that the Earth is flat (institutional) when it is known to be spherical (brute) is not self-fulfilling, because Earth's shape is proven through significant evidence. There has to be a consensus by "large numbers of people within a given population"[2]—aside from being institutional, social, or bound by the laws of nature for an idea—to be seen as self-fulfilling.

    A self-fulfilling prophecy can have either negative or positive outcomes. It can be concluded that establishing a label towards someone or something significantly impacts their perception and influences them to establish self-fulfilling prophecy.[4] Interpersonal communication plays a significant role in establishing these phenomena as well as impacting the labeling process. Intrapersonal communication can have both positive and negative effects, dependent on the nature of the self-fulfilling prophecy. The expectations of a relationship or the inferiority complex felt by young minority children are examples of the negative effects of real false beliefs being self-fulfilling.[5]

    American sociologists W. I. Thomas and Dorothy Swaine Thomas were the first to discover this phenomenon. In 1928 they developed the Thomas theorem (also known as the Thomas dictum), stating that, "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences."[6] Because of the way the couple defined a self-fulfilling prophecy, their definition was regarded as flexible in its meaning. On a societal level, there can be a consensus on what's deemed true depending on the importance of the part of the culture even if it is a false assumption and as a result of this perception of the culture it will become the outcome based on the behavior of the society. A person’s perception can be "self-creating" if the belief they have is acted upon by their behavior which aligns with the outcome. Building on Thomas' idea, another American sociologist, Robert K. Merton, used the term "self-fulfilling prophecy" for it, popularizing the idea that "a belief or expectation, correct or incorrect, could bring about a desired or expected outcome."[1][7] While Robert K. Merton is typically credited for this theory because he coined the name; however, the Thomases developed it earlier on—along with the philosophers Karl Popper and Alan Gerwith—who also independently contributed to the idea behind this theory in their works, which also came before Merton. Self-fulfilling prophecies are an example of the more general phenomenon of positive feedback loops.
    It's not a self-fulfilling prophecy when it has happened every time no matter what I do.
    Ace Marvel is prolly lock wolf at this point due to them making a judgement on my slot despite never actually interacting with me in thread.
    So lock wolf are

    Bad Reads
    Xenox
    Ace Marvel

    These 3 people have high coven equity :/
    I made a judgment on you because you are a copy paste version of every game you have played. like is not hard. lol
    @TripleHaven Ace marvel disagree with you.

    But this statement is false, i don't really care to explain why
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    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed It's not a self-fulfilling prophecy when it has...

    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#3362)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3360)
    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#3357)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3355)
    Ace Marvel > Rand Wolf
    High partner equity with Bad Reads
    youd probably be less cyberbullied about your reads if you accompanied these types of declarations with at least a bit of evidence or citation as to what makes you perceive these connections
    why give evidence when no one is going to listen to me anyways
    A self-fulfilling prophecy is the sociopsychological phenomenon of someone "predicting" or expecting something, and this "prediction" or expectation coming true simply because the person believes or anticipates it will[1] and the person's resulting behaviors align to fulfill the belief. This suggests that people's beliefs influence their actions. The principle behind this phenomenon is that people create consequences regarding people or events, based on previous knowledge of the subject.

    There are three factors within an environment that can come together to influence the likelihood of a self-fulfilling prophecy becoming a reality: appearance, perception and belief.[2] When a phenomenon cannot be seen, appearance is what we rely upon when a self-fulfilling prophecy is in place.[2] When it comes to a self-fulfilling prophecy there also must be a distinction "between 'brute and institutional' facts".[3] The philosopher John Searle states the difference as "facts [that] exist independently of any human institutions; institutional facts can only exist within institutions." There is an inability of institutional facts to be self-fulfilling. For example, the old belief that the Earth is flat (institutional) when it is known to be spherical (brute) is not self-fulfilling, because Earth's shape is proven through significant evidence. There has to be a consensus by "large numbers of people within a given population"[2]—aside from being institutional, social, or bound by the laws of nature for an idea—to be seen as self-fulfilling.

    A self-fulfilling prophecy can have either negative or positive outcomes. It can be concluded that establishing a label towards someone or something significantly impacts their perception and influences them to establish self-fulfilling prophecy.[4] Interpersonal communication plays a significant role in establishing these phenomena as well as impacting the labeling process. Intrapersonal communication can have both positive and negative effects, dependent on the nature of the self-fulfilling prophecy. The expectations of a relationship or the inferiority complex felt by young minority children are examples of the negative effects of real false beliefs being self-fulfilling.[5]

    American sociologists W. I. Thomas and Dorothy Swaine Thomas were the first to discover this phenomenon. In 1928 they developed the Thomas theorem (also known as the Thomas dictum), stating that, "If men define situations as real, they are real in their consequences."[6] Because of the way the couple defined a self-fulfilling prophecy, their definition was regarded as flexible in its meaning. On a societal level, there can be a consensus on what's deemed true depending on the importance of the part of the culture even if it is a false assumption and as a result of this perception of the culture it will become the outcome based on the behavior of the society. A person’s perception can be "self-creating" if the belief they have is acted upon by their behavior which aligns with the outcome. Building on Thomas' idea, another American sociologist, Robert K. Merton, used the term "self-fulfilling prophecy" for it, popularizing the idea that "a belief or expectation, correct or incorrect, could bring about a desired or expected outcome."[1][7] While Robert K. Merton is typically credited for this theory because he coined the name; however, the Thomases developed it earlier on—along with the philosophers Karl Popper and Alan Gerwith—who also independently contributed to the idea behind this theory in their works, which also came before Merton. Self-fulfilling prophecies are an example of the more general phenomenon of positive feedback loops.
    It's not a self-fulfilling prophecy when it has happened every time no matter what I do.
    Ace Marvel is prolly lock wolf at this point due to them making a judgement on my slot despite never actually interacting with me in thread.
    So lock wolf are

    Bad Reads
    Xenox
    Ace Marvel

    These 3 people have high coven equity :/
  17. Day 2#3360

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed why give evidence when no one is going to listen...

    Quote Originally Posted by my anime girl alt (#3357)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3355)
    Ace Marvel > Rand Wolf
    High partner equity with Bad Reads
    youd probably be less cyberbullied about your reads if you accompanied these types of declarations with at least a bit of evidence or citation as to what makes you perceive these connections
    why give evidence when no one is going to listen to me anyways
  18. Day 2#3355

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    Completed Ace Marvel > Rand Wolf High partner equity with...

    Ace Marvel > Rand Wolf
    High partner equity with Bad Reads
  19. Day 2#3282

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed that's also true Ace Marvel

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#3281)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3279)
    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas (#3267)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3261)
    WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL THIS?!?!?!?!?! GOSH
    COVEN LEADER CAN CONTROL THE NEUTRAL KILLER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! @Ace Marvel
    Which would have a result in 2 days, still is making coven waste an ability, that wait a sec if we actually try to kill coven, might idk, prevent them from having it because the player is dead...
    or we could kill the stalker and focus purely on coven onwards.

    Like risk of letting coven controlling stalker to kill whoever since it's ESSENTAILLY free kp for coven.
    that's also true
    ##Vote Ace Marvel
  20. Day 2#3273

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Xerox

    ##Vote Xerox
  21. Day 2#3265

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    Completed I don't really care

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Marvel (#3257)
    EVEN IF PSYCHO IS ANOTHER KILLING ROLE HE IS OUTED AND IT'S NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO WIN

    IF HE SIDES WITH TOWN IS A PROBLEM FOR MAFIA...

    KILLING PSYCHO IS NOT USEFUL, IF MAFIA FEELS THREATENED THEY WILL USE THE MEDUSA ABILITY AND THAT PREVENTS IT FROM BEING USE ON A TOWN....
    I don't really care
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    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed I don't really care I lost all care for this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho666Soldier (#3244)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#3228)
    ##Unvote ThePretender
    Not letting this be wagoned over Psycho.

    Trying to find motivation to post reads but toxicity toward my slot has made it hard for me to put any effort into this game
    Don't you want to play an exciting game of "leash the Stalker?"
    I don't really care

    I lost all care for this game once people started Cyberbullying my slot
  23. Day 2#3228

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed ThePretender Not letting this be wagoned over...

    ##Unvote ThePretender
    Not letting this be wagoned over Psycho.

    Trying to find motivation to post reads but toxicity toward my slot has made it hard for me to put any effort into this game
  24. Day 2#2741

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed :) Its called illusion for a reason

    Quote Originally Posted by min (#2740)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2737)
    Whatever ill reveal my actual reads tommorow then sub out because mafia isn't fun
    uh-
    Its called illusion for a reason
  25. Day 2#2737

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    Completed Whatever ill reveal my actual reads tommorow then...

    Whatever ill reveal my actual reads tommorow then sub out because mafia isn't fun
  26. Day 2#2736

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed You investigated the uncc'd Citizen claim. If...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerox (#2735)
    Quote Originally Posted by bad reads (#2732)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2730)
    Whatver
    im always voting Xenox, Pretender, and Dum in LyLo
    dum is poisoned and like the most obvious villager in the game lmao
    And people wonder why I felt the need to investigate Venti. Smh.
    You investigated the uncc'd Citizen claim.

    If you are this dumb you need to be policy lynched anyways
  27. Day 2#2734

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    Completed Bet tomorrow Dum is gonna live and be like "ty...

    Quote Originally Posted by bad reads (#2732)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2730)
    Whatver
    im always voting Xenox, Pretender, and Dum in LyLo
    dum is poisoned and like the most obvious villager in the game lmao
    Bet tomorrow Dum is gonna live and be like "ty doctor"
  28. Day 2#2731

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed this is funny

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas (#2729)


    venti_when_nobody_listens.mp4
    this is funny
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    Completed Whatver im always voting Xenox, Pretender, and...

    Whatver
    im always voting Xenox, Pretender, and Dum in LyLo
  30. Day 2#2725

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Because it isn't really reasoning just illusion

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2723)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2722)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dum (#2718)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2716)
    I love how yall assume that my secret info relates to me not being citizen
    no that's not what I'm saying lol
    -Im citzen that cant have been jailed, but i have secret info no one else has
    -Secret Info comes from reads
    -Cant trust your reads for flummery as seen in this game
    The reasoning is saved for endgame :/
    why
    Because it isn't really reasoning just illusion
  31. Day 2#2722

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed The reasoning is saved for endgame :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Dum (#2718)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2716)
    I love how yall assume that my secret info relates to me not being citizen
    no that's not what I'm saying lol
    -Im citzen that cant have been jailed, but i have secret info no one else has
    -Secret Info comes from reads
    -Cant trust your reads for flummery as seen in this game
    The reasoning is saved for endgame :/
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    Completed i cant. Thats the point of keeping it hidden ...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2717)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2716)
    I love how yall assume that my secret info relates to me not being citizen
    no that's not what I'm saying lol
    oooo mr wise one! please tell us humble ignorant fools what possible information you could possible have!

    Surely witholding this information is far more detrimental to the town than just saying what possible thoughts you have!
    i cant.
    Thats the point of keeping it hidden

    Too bad you are following the Dunning-Krugger Effect
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    Completed I love how yall assume that my secret info...

    I love how yall assume that my secret info relates to me not being citizen
    no that's not what I'm saying lol
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    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed i don't care about mechs, these people need to...

    Quote Originally Posted by min (#2707)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2703)
    Pretender
    Xenox
    bad reads

    I refuse to play any mafia game ever again if these people aren't yeeted out of existence
    br's response to getting possibly revealed as oracle feels real honestly
    i don't care about mechs, these people need to die anyways
  35. Day 2#2706

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Hmm its almost like I have information on that...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2704)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2700)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2699)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2695)
    Here we have pretender outing themselves as mafia by exciting toxicity in the thread in an effort to decrease the value of a consensus town's reads
    Also in that game I found 2 town that were proceed to be mislynched, found a mafia, and found another mafia d1. So stfu
    You are trying to descredit my reads by referencing my vote history, those two aren't the same buddy. Not to mention that that game was from 3 months ago
    You can't deny you had an NK READ on a slot that claimed TI and happened to poisoned.

    Why would I waste my time as scum on your slot. If anything I'd pocket your reads since they've been quite inaccurate.

    Hmm its almost like I have information on that slot that I'm not sharing
  36. Day 2#2703

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Pretender Xenox bad reads I refuse to play...

    Pretender
    Xenox
    bad reads

    I refuse to play any mafia game ever again if these people aren't yeeted out of existence
  37. Day 2#2700

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed You are trying to descredit my reads by...

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2699)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2695)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2691)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2689)
    ##Vote ThePretender
    Pretender LockScum

    Only scum have ever said that lmfao
    my read accuracy is like 70%
    Lag was quite literally town in that game

    Face it your read accuracy is worse than rand
    Here we have pretender outing themselves as mafia by exciting toxicity in the thread in an effort to decrease the value of a consensus town's reads
    Also in that game I found 2 town that were proceed to be mislynched, found a mafia, and found another mafia d1. So stfu
    You are trying to descredit my reads by referencing my vote history, those two aren't the same buddy. Not to mention that that game was from 3 months ago
  38. Day 2#2699

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Also in that game I found 2 town that were...

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2695)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2691)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2689)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2686)
    Friendly reminder to not take Venti's posts seriously supported by evidence from a post used in a previous game I played with him



    ##Vote ThePretender
    Pretender LockScum

    Only scum have ever said that lmfao
    my read accuracy is like 70%
    Lag was quite literally town in that game

    Face it your read accuracy is worse than rand
    Here we have pretender outing themselves as mafia by exciting toxicity in the thread in an effort to decrease the value of a consensus town's reads
    Also in that game I found 2 town that were proceed to be mislynched, found a mafia, and found another mafia d1. So stfu
  39. Day 2#2695

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed Here we have pretender outing themselves as mafia...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2691)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2689)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2686)
    Friendly reminder to not take Venti's posts seriously supported by evidence from a post used in a previous game I played with him


    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2663)
    I'm going to be offline past EoD with only the ability to check in once or twice, so going to leave my final thoughts for the day here:

    - @Venti Like Venti, I mean no offense when I say this, but you really need to sit down and re-consider how you scum hunt. I was wondering if I was just being conf-biased against you, so I went through all the games you've played on this site to see how well you've done with scum-hunting as town.

    Multiball 19er
    Day 1 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (6/18 slots are scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for Town on the Counter Wagon. Main Wagon was Mafia (6/16 scum)
    Day 3 Venti voted for Mafia on the Main Wagon (4/13 scum)
    Day 4 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (3/10 scum)
    Day 5 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (2/7 scum)
    Day 6 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (1/4 scum)
    Day 7 Venti voted for Town in F3 (1/2 scum)

    Another Cop/Vig 13er
    Day 1 Venti voted for Mafia on a Vanity Wagon (3/12 scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for Town, Venti was voting for Town, then some screwed up nonsense happened with a VT counter claiming Venti as Cop which caused Venti to go over. But before that happened Venti was still pushing a Town. (Just reading this series of events is painful though, ngl, sorry you had to deal with that) (2/9 scum)

    Anime World 2
    Day 1 Venti voted for Town on the Counter Wagon. Main Wagon was Mafia (8/27 scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for Town on a Tertiary Wagon. Main Wagon AND Counter Wagon were Mafia (8/26 scum)
    Day 3 Venti voted for Town, but unvoted before EoD. (3/16 scum)
    Day 4 Venti voted for Town on the Counter Wagon. Main Wagon was Mafia (3/13 scum)
    Day 5 Venti voted for Town (2/11 scum)
    Day 6 Venti voted for Town, Counter Wagon was Mafia (1/5 scum)
    Day 7 Venti voted for Mafia in a F4 where the other two slots were mech confirmed Town.

    This Game
    Day 1 Venti voted for Town Vig on Tertiary Wagon. Main Wagon was Town, Counter Wagon was Mafia (3/14 scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for GGhana

    When you take out the F4 scenario where Venti's only choice was to vote Mafia, this is a record of having voted for Mafia only twice out of sixteen times, 2/16. The thread hit mafia 4/16 times, and the thread was on to mafia (with a mafia wagon or cw) 6/16 times.

    2/16 is abysmal. Just voting randomly would have hit 4.44 scum on average.

    And just... when I look at that slot in this game, I've yet to see anything come from it that makes me think "this guy is finding wolves"

    So yeah. Pointing this out is probably not useful for anything other than my own catharsis with my frustration over Venti's bad tunnels on me two games in a row, but whatever.

    ANYWAY, back to useful content:

    - With the amount of general cohesion and consensus we have about the towncore, I think either both the wolves are in the PoE and we just win. OR both the wolves are deep wolves and we're about to wind up in a 3v2 F5. It just seems very unlikely that there would be this much consensus and cohesion with 1 wolf in the PoE and 1 wolf in the towncore

    - I think some combination from (Aldo, Javelin, Vro) should be the elim + shot

    - Twice sticking his neck out for Vro seems a little bit odd and if there is a 1 wolf in PoE, 1 wolf in towncore split, then that's the obvious one. Any other splits probably just involve the deep wolf telling the other wolf "sucks to suck, nerd" in wolf chat or something as they leave them behind lol

    - The problem with DADV at this point is that either both wolves are deep wolves and it actually is DADV. Or both wolves are just low posters in the PoE with little thread influence and town is clowning on them. And I have no idea how to tell which is which. And even if I did have low confidence in the PoE, I have no idea where I would even start with the towncore PoE? Maybe Twice or Eva? Twice for aforementioned reasons + my reason for town-reading him is from day 1 and is getting a little bit stale since I've not seen anything worth town-reading from him since day 1. Eva because her switching between me and Venti at SoD could be interpreted as a wolf opportunistically looking to start a wagon on a player that is in most peoples towncores (as Venti and I both fit that bill), that way the LHF are left for another day. It could also just as easily be town recognizing Venti's dubious solves though. And yes, I know this is hedgy, you get no town points for pointing that out.

    ===

    If there's one thing I'm confident about though, it's that town has already either basically won, or basically lost, and there's not much chance for anything in-between.
    ##Vote ThePretender
    Pretender LockScum

    Only scum have ever said that lmfao
    my read accuracy is like 70%
    Lag was quite literally town in that game

    Face it your read accuracy is worse than rand
    Here we have pretender outing themselves as mafia by exciting toxicity in the thread in an effort to decrease the value of a consensus town's reads
  40. Day 2#2689

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed ThePretender Pretender LockScum Only scum...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePretender (#2686)
    Friendly reminder to not take Venti's posts seriously supported by evidence from a post used in a previous game I played with him


    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2663)
    I'm going to be offline past EoD with only the ability to check in once or twice, so going to leave my final thoughts for the day here:

    - @Venti Like Venti, I mean no offense when I say this, but you really need to sit down and re-consider how you scum hunt. I was wondering if I was just being conf-biased against you, so I went through all the games you've played on this site to see how well you've done with scum-hunting as town.

    Multiball 19er
    Day 1 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (6/18 slots are scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for Town on the Counter Wagon. Main Wagon was Mafia (6/16 scum)
    Day 3 Venti voted for Mafia on the Main Wagon (4/13 scum)
    Day 4 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (3/10 scum)
    Day 5 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (2/7 scum)
    Day 6 Venti voted for Town on the Main Wagon (1/4 scum)
    Day 7 Venti voted for Town in F3 (1/2 scum)

    Another Cop/Vig 13er
    Day 1 Venti voted for Mafia on a Vanity Wagon (3/12 scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for Town, Venti was voting for Town, then some screwed up nonsense happened with a VT counter claiming Venti as Cop which caused Venti to go over. But before that happened Venti was still pushing a Town. (Just reading this series of events is painful though, ngl, sorry you had to deal with that) (2/9 scum)

    Anime World 2
    Day 1 Venti voted for Town on the Counter Wagon. Main Wagon was Mafia (8/27 scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for Town on a Tertiary Wagon. Main Wagon AND Counter Wagon were Mafia (8/26 scum)
    Day 3 Venti voted for Town, but unvoted before EoD. (3/16 scum)
    Day 4 Venti voted for Town on the Counter Wagon. Main Wagon was Mafia (3/13 scum)
    Day 5 Venti voted for Town (2/11 scum)
    Day 6 Venti voted for Town, Counter Wagon was Mafia (1/5 scum)
    Day 7 Venti voted for Mafia in a F4 where the other two slots were mech confirmed Town.

    This Game
    Day 1 Venti voted for Town Vig on Tertiary Wagon. Main Wagon was Town, Counter Wagon was Mafia (3/14 scum)
    Day 2 Venti voted for GGhana

    When you take out the F4 scenario where Venti's only choice was to vote Mafia, this is a record of having voted for Mafia only twice out of sixteen times, 2/16. The thread hit mafia 4/16 times, and the thread was on to mafia (with a mafia wagon or cw) 6/16 times.

    2/16 is abysmal. Just voting randomly would have hit 4.44 scum on average.

    And just... when I look at that slot in this game, I've yet to see anything come from it that makes me think "this guy is finding wolves"

    So yeah. Pointing this out is probably not useful for anything other than my own catharsis with my frustration over Venti's bad tunnels on me two games in a row, but whatever.

    ANYWAY, back to useful content:

    - With the amount of general cohesion and consensus we have about the towncore, I think either both the wolves are in the PoE and we just win. OR both the wolves are deep wolves and we're about to wind up in a 3v2 F5. It just seems very unlikely that there would be this much consensus and cohesion with 1 wolf in the PoE and 1 wolf in the towncore

    - I think some combination from (Aldo, Javelin, Vro) should be the elim + shot

    - Twice sticking his neck out for Vro seems a little bit odd and if there is a 1 wolf in PoE, 1 wolf in towncore split, then that's the obvious one. Any other splits probably just involve the deep wolf telling the other wolf "sucks to suck, nerd" in wolf chat or something as they leave them behind lol

    - The problem with DADV at this point is that either both wolves are deep wolves and it actually is DADV. Or both wolves are just low posters in the PoE with little thread influence and town is clowning on them. And I have no idea how to tell which is which. And even if I did have low confidence in the PoE, I have no idea where I would even start with the towncore PoE? Maybe Twice or Eva? Twice for aforementioned reasons + my reason for town-reading him is from day 1 and is getting a little bit stale since I've not seen anything worth town-reading from him since day 1. Eva because her switching between me and Venti at SoD could be interpreted as a wolf opportunistically looking to start a wagon on a player that is in most peoples towncores (as Venti and I both fit that bill), that way the LHF are left for another day. It could also just as easily be town recognizing Venti's dubious solves though. And yes, I know this is hedgy, you get no town points for pointing that out.

    ===

    If there's one thing I'm confident about though, it's that town has already either basically won, or basically lost, and there's not much chance for anything in-between.
    ##Vote ThePretender
    Pretender LockScum

    Only scum have ever said that lmfao
    my read accuracy is like 70%
  41. Day 2#2683

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed true, but it's at a greater risk of losing jailor...

    Quote Originally Posted by min (#2677)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2672)
    Quote Originally Posted by min (#2666)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2663)
    No spew from neutrals = not worth our time.

    NK is 1 person, thus they are not as large of a threat as Coven which contains 4 people
    nk being alive only helps mafia lower playerlist tbh
    its called jail and exe the nk
    maf can also be jailexed tho
    true, but it's at a greater risk of losing jailor exe
  42. Day 2#2672

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed its called jail and exe the nk

    Quote Originally Posted by min (#2666)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2663)
    Quote Originally Posted by ondine (#2657)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2652)
    eh tbh I would rather keep the nk alive
    Want to elaborate?
    No spew from neutrals = not worth our time.

    NK is 1 person, thus they are not as large of a threat as Coven which contains 4 people
    nk being alive only helps mafia lower playerlist tbh
    its called jail and exe the nk
  43. Day 2#2667

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed I would rather kill Xenox or Bad Reads

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2664)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2663)
    Quote Originally Posted by ondine (#2657)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2652)
    eh tbh I would rather keep the nk alive
    Want to elaborate?
    No spew from neutrals = not worth our time.

    NK is 1 person, thus they are not as large of a threat as Coven which contains 4 people
    he could be NC which confirms the Random Neutral slot and confirms Poly as scum. So he's always worth killing.
    I would rather kill Xenox or Bad Reads
  44. Day 2#2663

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed No spew from neutrals = not worth our time. NK...

    Quote Originally Posted by ondine (#2657)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2652)
    eh tbh I would rather keep the nk alive
    Want to elaborate?
    No spew from neutrals = not worth our time.

    NK is 1 person, thus they are not as large of a threat as Coven which contains 4 people
  45. Day 2#2652

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

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    Completed eh tbh I would rather keep the nk alive

    eh tbh I would rather keep the nk alive
  46. Day 2#2513

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed Xenox + Bad Reads are wolves I refuse to play...

    Xenox + Bad Reads are wolves
    I refuse to play the game until these two are dead
  47. Day 2#2475

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed Not talking for rest of day :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2472)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dum (#2466)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2465)
    Im Godfather and I attacked you and you didn't die.
    Theres no godfather + you are consesus town + im poisoned
    get $%#!ed

    anyways vote Xenox or I'm not playing the game
    Not talking for rest of day
  48. Day 2#2472

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed get $%#!ed anyways vote Xenox or I'm not...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dum (#2466)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2465)
    Im Godfather and I attacked you and you didn't die.
    Theres no godfather + you are consesus town + im poisoned
    get $%#!ed

    anyways vote Xenox or I'm not playing the game
  49. Day 2#2465

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed ? Im Godfather and I attacked you and you didn't...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dum (#2460)
    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#2457)
    oh btw Dum is immune
    Explain
    ?
    Im Godfather and I attacked you and you didn't die.
  50. Day 2#2457

    Thread: A Magical Christmas

    by Venti
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    Completed oh btw Dum is immune

    oh btw Dum is immune
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