The mountain doesn't exist. It can't freeze you.
Type: Posts; User: Ominoire
The mountain doesn't exist. It can't freeze you.
OUTM, Orangeandblack5, and Oilypetal are the wolf team. For certain.
Then maybe I'm confusing OUTM and Orange for someone else. Someone who doesn't start with an "O."
If someone has a case against OUTM that isn't a gutread, then let me know. If not, then maybe I'll bother to read every OUTM post. Earlier I thought OUTM townread Haze strongly enough to defend them on D4, but P#9269 has me thinking I'm mistaken. I probably mixed up OUTM for Orange.
Again, someone - probably Orange - should convince me why Haze is town outside of metareads. The one thing I'm willing to give to Haze is that Haze always enters the conversation like they're playing a different game. We're playing Mafia and they're busy playing Snakes and Ladders. I rather have a case that's dependent on this game and not on metaknowledge, please. I don't think I've played a game with Haze outside of a mash, or any other game at all.
Then again, you and Schweppes are competing for that town spot.
Orange, since it seems like you now have the most town equity among us, you are probably going to die next. Let's assume you are town anyway. What points do you have to offer for Haze being town? I would rather have less meta-relevant points, if possible.
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I don't understand what you mean by my questions already being answered. All I want is your explanation to a question I have no answer for. You dipping out hasn't helped me achieved any answer.
Dolby was a frozen wolflean that could have very well been randtown. That's what I thought. He needed to go either way because of inactivity. I already explained many times over why I wanted Dolby and the inactives dead. We even had a mass killing of these inactives because of how much they were wolfsiding by not being here.
Granted, if all I'm getting are people who want to commit lazily to my wagon, then the burden is on them to show my wolf equity and to exhibit town behavior. I've done more than enough compared to them. I'm not particularly worried about these people. Even if I do go over, it's still a personal win for me. Not only am I out of this game, but my efforts will be seen in a better light compared to theirs.
Orange, you might as well say everyone could be a wolf and everyone could be a town.
#9153, then I would have made sure he looked bad in a wallpost with postnums and quotes rather than this vague shading you're accusing me. I like to think I make more effort as a wolf. What I'm asking now are your thoughts about voting someone who was previously voted by the same person you were voting before. In this case, you voted aaa, who was voting me, and then you switched to me. If you voted aaa, then that tells me you suspected him. If you're voting with aaa afterward, that tells me you might have changed your mind. All of this is assuming you have a town process, and I want to figure this out.
My questions are pretty fair and none of them are designed to make you look suspicious. I don't do "Gotcha!" questions or anything like that. Those are pretty lame. You're someone I've expressed my suspicion for, and me asking questions isn't to make you look even more suspicious, but it's to make sure that I'm either confident about you or that there's something I need to reconsider. Just because I'm voting you, that doesn't mean everything I do from then on is to make you look awful. It's not like what you're implying for my slot.
My questions are there to help both myself and others to find you town. If you answer in a good way, I'll back you up. If you want to help yourself out, then you should answer my questions. At the very least, you can keep voting me and I can take my vote off you, if you do a good job. I honestly don't care much about anything but seeing how accurate I am by EOD.
I'm pretty sure Orange knows I'm joking. It's not like I can nightkill my wolf partner anyway.
This guy thinks he can bargain for a Sunday.
I'll be coming for you tonight, Orange.
Also, that exchange between Orange and myself that Wes found was one of the reasons I was unwilling to vote Orange on D1 and even soft-defend them for. I'd forgotten all about that.
Personally I don't think we should be solving OUTM's slot with the "Why is he still alive?" argument. We could also apply the same argument to Schweppes - and myself, to a lesser extent. We wouldn't get anywhere until we yeeted one of us.
Axelrod was a better kill than OUTM, not just because he hardly had a fos against him, but because OUTM's wagon was a front issue. Although Axelrod didn't utilize his vote to pressure anyone, he was a threat just by existing.
In case it hasn't set in, it's to be expected of Lilypetal to announce a fos on one or two people because of iffiness. My understanding of a town!Lilypetal is that she's winging everything with her gut and all her explanations, when questioned, sound like a word salad. This is because she didn't bother to read another level deeper into her reads, so she is actually coming up with her explanations on the spot.
Let's be honest here. OUTM is only suspicious because he's alive and could be deepwolfing. Could be deepwolfing. I doubt anyone here can justify their points against OUTM outside of that gutread.
Winning in real life versus winning a game of mafia. I really don't know where my priorities should be.
You know, maybe the real winners are the people who died before us. I should have just pulled a Kuti and sabotaged my entire mafia career just to die in one tabletop game.
At least my theory invokes Fairy's progression on me. Other people who could fit in this group would be aaa and Haze. I can't see how you can compare yours against the game from beginning to end. No offense, though. This game hasn't been worth people's time in general.
This is how your point doesn't read like a point to me. It's just more noise, unfortunately. To me, it's a distraction away from the Fairy wagon I'm pursuing. At best, it advocates a wagon on someone that isn't me. That's all I'm weighing here.
I just don't see how you're making sense here. The wolves can play however they want, smart or not. You're talking theory here, but I don't see how you're applying it directly to certain slots. At the end of the day, your theory relies on Wes always being town. However, I neither have enough town points to consider Wes town, but I also don't know your towncase for Wes. If I did, it would have had to be a good one for me to remember it.
I'm going to play some devil's advocate here and talk to you about one world where Wes, Lily, and Aaa are all wolves. In this world, the last two are willing to bus Wes and each other. However, they're not really all that concerned about whether Wes flips or not. It's just distancing, not for credit. In fact, both Lily and Aaa already did some distancing before focusing back on Wes. If the remaining wolf members are in these three, then they're aware that they risk playing themselves in a corner the longer they leave people like Schweppes and OUTM alive. Orange has already become something of a town-null for this table. To a lesser extent, there's also someone like me who can consistently talk their way out of bad situations and has enough people vouching for them. In order to win, they have to act like they can't be partnered and exploit partnership theories to their advantage.
Looks like I hit the button by accident. Meant to get the vote history running.
Schweppes, when you kill someone tonight, can you please give a howl? It'll help me sleep well tonight.
I was going to offer Wes an ultimatum by voting him at L-1, to vote Fairy or risk being eliminated at. However, aaa took my chance to be unique here. Despite the gloom and doom, I want to see what Fairy's response to me is.
Wish there was a reaction button now.