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what is more sexual: politics or religion

what's this weird little black pebble I found in my drink

who is the most seductive WW player

what do you think apoc's name is an acronym for

zack how does it feel to be the silver medal

L + ratio + you fell off + no broads + eat your heart out + hit da bricks + get mooked + do you think you could beat gh in a wii sports resort swordplay contest

how many pears do you think you could eat in one sitting if pushed to your limits

I refer to you as "the person who loves mass effect even more than me but for the wrong reasons" do you think this is accurate and how does it feel

more like Dancing Mid am I right gamers

Originally Posted by Newcomb 1656482891 (#73)

Originally Posted by lute 1656451903 (#66)

who is worse GeneralHankerchief or Sherwin Shayegan

I had to look that up, that's... odd?

I don't get the joke though.

I wanted to ask who was worse, GH or [blank] but couldn't come up with a good blank

also your lack of an answer is telling

who is worse GeneralHankerchief or Sherwin Shayegan

Originally Posted by Ampharos 1656446627 (#21)

Originally Posted by Amrock 1656376572 (#18)

Texas team!!!

@Ampharos
@Zack

im retired

you're it

how many times a day

Originally Posted by Hally 1654448144 (#1522)

just an update, we’re still trying to finalize how we’re gonna address this

sorry it’s taking a while but we haven’t forgotten this and will hopefully have it finished soonish

permaban everyone LET'S GO

what setups are you people playing with these glaring mechanical flaws you're proposing will come up

like at some point it's not a modbot problem

Option 1 because it's non-consecutive targeting. You're not doing the targeting, so no restriction. Some other bloke took your legal target and changed course. If you're not allowed to shoot JFK consecutively, so you aim at someone else and fire, but Magneto redirects the bullet into JFK, you followed your set of rules. This logic applies to both 2 and 3. Initial targeter is clear because they didn't shoot the same target consecutively and Magneto is clear because he had no restriction.

It's also just more fun to allow abilities through whenever possible. Not to mention Option 2 is unintuitive in the sense that anyone who is not already aware of this specific Modbot interaction will be confused about the sudden appearance of a Roleblocker. In closed setups this would lead to role speculations based on faulty evidence provided by the software, and that should be near the tippy-top of things to avoid. Option 1 is the cleanest.

Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant 1651008797 (#10)

Sadly I will still be unable to search for SR

$%#!

that's a spicy meat-a-balla

Originally Posted by Apoc 1650968874 (#1511)

if you were born in 2404 how did you end up now

how does arapocalypse make you feel, generally

what's a song you've heard recently you really enjoy

do you like pringles

why did she leave me

are we doing this or what

what's your favorite member of the order pilosa

what's your favorite monotreme

what's your favorite pinniped

do you think love can bloom on the battlefield

Originally Posted by roro__b 1650903044 (#1498)

Flakemodhat off

This thread is basicslly a mash

Can't be a mash I'm having fun

Originally Posted by Amrock 1650879712 (#1448)

Originally Posted by Apoc 1650879093 (#1447)

I care very little about most of this thread, I've probably read about 3 pages of it.


But i will never compromise on the following:

Subs should always always always always always always always always always always always ALWAYS ALWAYS always always be done at end of day or start of night.

So what if they 0 post? What difference does it make?
They might get yeeted, ideal! Solid team effort.

Did they request a sub or were they force subbed. Nobody knows with an EOD sub. Less spew.

Wolves have a chance to kill the sub. Protecting game integrity.

Wolves play against the village in their game.

The only reason subs are an issue is because of the above line. Every other reason is an annoyance at worst.

Subbing in a village player with extensive meta on a deep wolf is the single greatest way to totally ruin a game.

That wolf did things they knew they could away with based on the players in their game. There is no counterplay except to NK the player subbing in, which can only be done at night.

This guy seems to have a lot of awards, we should listen to him

yeah but he only earned like 16 of them not sure he's got enough pedigree

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650870981 (#1434)

Robots don't moderate but a popup like "Are you SURE you want to do this?" when requesting a sub is like, super normalized by ~everything you can press on a computer that has the potential to negatively impact people

series of ninety-three annoying pop-ups that grow increasingly desperate to have you reconsider

but centaur might cancel that out dunno

I will say though that in moderation, people historically HATE robots.

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650870862 (#1428)

I think reminding a player in no uncertain terms that [insert amrock's suggestion] and then getting the host to reach out and say "hey I saw you wanna sub, did you want to talk about why?" could be a great way to both get the human element in there while also impressing that abandoning your commitments is an issue we take seriously

there is some merit to the centaur

Originally Posted by Hally 1650869794 (#1423)

Originally Posted by lute 1650867193 (#1408)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650866883 (#1405)

I'm a big fan of automating it through making requesting out be a button the players need to press that feeds them the message automatically (as I've said before)

also a big fan of making subs by default only take place during night phases unless the host manually overrides that to force one earlier

Automation is good for delivering the message I agree, but can't actually handle any other aspect which is where I foresee too much [word kind of like bureaucracy goes here] bogging the process down.

i think automating the message is probably less effective than having the host send it

it’s easier to dismiss a boilerplate automatic PM than it is to dismiss an actual person telling you

my message was worded poorly tbh the but was meant to cancel the first bit I don't really want the message automated because a human touch is important imo

Originally Posted by AndrewGreve 1650867501 (#1414)

Just have Modbot auto sub out villagers at random intervals to ensure that a sub is literally factually non alignment indicative.

was gonna suggest this earlier but the thread energy was wrong for it

Originally Posted by Amrock 1650867402 (#1410)

Honestly the more i think about it, 12-24 hours might be too long. Even making someone wait like 1 hour should reap benefits tbh so they don't rage quit basically

gonna be honest as someone who mostly played 36/12 hearing the initial proposal of 24 hours sounded like lunacy

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650867181 (#1407)

I think those are the kind of minutia that are good to consider but bad to base policy off of

to be clear I don't think you're doing this but I just want to make sure nobody's about to come in here like "well if we can't figure out the exact cooldown period length right this instant I bet we better scrap the idea" which sounds silly but this is a silly thread :P

I think all minutia and fringe cases are important when considering policy implementation so the rolled out version is as polished as possible. When aiming for standardization, the standard must be ideal. Because I guarantee you, if you think of a fringe case and discard it as too unlikely or unimportant, it will happen and you'll need an answer for it.

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650866883 (#1405)

I'm a big fan of automating it through making requesting out be a button the players need to press that feeds them the message automatically (as I've said before)

also a big fan of making subs by default only take place during night phases unless the host manually overrides that to force one earlier

Automation is good for delivering the message I agree, but can't actually handle any other aspect which is where I foresee too much [word kind of like bureaucracy goes here] bogging the process down.

Also just to voice some concerns with the enforced cooldown period: When does the timer for the cooldown start? When the request is put in or when the host sees it? What cooldowns do we use for different phase lengths (Amrock already suggested a few)? If these cooldowns are on the shorter side, what happens if there isn't a mod on hand to address them within that time frame (say 3 hours in a 12/12)? I could probably come up with more but these are a few key points that would need satisfying answers for the cooldown proposal. And I think all that hard thinking can be circumvented by other means.

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650866561 (#1401)

but yeah I would present the idea that if shooting people a message telling them not to talk about subs is well and good and doable and good for the game and a reasonable policy that is not at all strict (which for the most part I agree with)

then so should be shooting a similar message to people who are trying to sub, which is another thing that introduces ogi elements into the game and I'd argue is on average worse and at best creates the potential for sub discussion to even exist in the first place

I just really think it's silly that messaging people who talk about subs any time they do it is par for the course but the idea of shooting a similar message to people hoping to sub is too much work for the mods or whatever

think of it as saving yourself the work of having to warn every amrock that is gonna take the statistical difference way too far going forward lmao

The big timing issue is that the message needs to come after they request a sub but before it goes through, and generally these things happen at a pretty good pace. You might say to just enforce a delay and that could work, but I envision complications in game flow as a result, especially if there aren't enough mod hands on deck to address every substitution immediately. This is where I advocate for host initiative to send the message themselves. Hosts are made aware of sub requests instantly, so no need for middle mod management.

whoa nelly what's that quote

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650866099 (#1397)

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Originally Posted by Hally

on April 24, 2022, 11:10:40 PM
(#1238)


if you talk about subs we shoot you a wuick message telling you not to



but for people who sub out

bit late innit

Originally Posted by Disquieted 1650865008 (#1385)

mom Hally said the s word

back in your cage

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1650862264 (#1374)

Amrock why are you like this

what'd he say I have him on ignore

Originally Posted by iaafr 1650859042 (#1333)

Originally Posted by Wisp 1650859018 (#1330)

Originally Posted by Alison 1650858336 (#1308)

RWSTFO

what is this acronym

rand wolf, sub the duck out

I thought we already did