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    My wife's top 5 in order: 1st: Mallrat -...

    My wife's top 5 in order:

    1st: Mallrat - Groceries
    2nd: Mallrat - Charlie
    3rd: Kate Nash - Foundations
    4th: Melody's Echo Chamber - I Follow You
    5th: FLETCHER - Bitter (with Kito)

    As a result of my wife's bonus points, there are now a few ties, but I couldn't account for that obv
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    Category 8: Independent Women A few...

    Category 8: Independent Women

    Independent Women
    The category is very simple: I'm looking for indie pop songs sung by female artists. Bands are allowed, as long as it's only a female singing. (The songs don't have to be about independence, I just couldn't come up with a better category name). I'm gonna be pretty lenient here in terms of whether it's indie pop/dream pop/alt pop.

    Songs I don't already know will do way better, so try to surprise me.
    A few relevant notes about the scoring and judging for this one:

    1. I have listened to all songs at least 3 times. Even the category fails.
    2. My wife has also listened to all the songs and ranked a top 5 of her favorites. Each of these 5 will earn 1 bonus point. However, the maximum score a song can achieve is still 10, so if I gave something a 9.5 and the song was one of my wife's top 5 favorites, that song will still "only" earn a 10. The ranking within her top 5 is meaningless in terms of points, by the way - they all get 1 point, but I thought you might still be interested in knowing her specific ranking.
    3. I have decided to not only score all the songs, but also "rank" them, to avoid any ties. This has been extremely difficult in some cases, but this means that there won't ever be a case of two or more songs receiving the exact same score. It also means I'm using more of the scoring spectrum than I otherwise would have.
    4. With regards to category fails: If it's not in any way indie pop or any of the other accepted pop variants, it's a 50% cat fail meaning a maximum score of 5 is possible. Likewise if it's not a female singer. So a complete cat fail resulting in a 0 score would be a male artist singing something far removed from indie pop. I have consulted Rate Your Music for many of these songs.
    5. A score of 8+ means that I've added the song to my personal playlist.

    This was by the way the second most skipped category (with 8 skips total). I'm gonna choose to believe it's because it was the last category :P

    46th
    Transylvanian Concubine (Yes Sir, Mr. Sir Mix (Club Mix))

    Gothic rock in a club mix version. This was probably the last thing I'd expect to see submitted, and I can't consider this a cat fit. Was the club mix version on purpose? Anyway, yeah, I unfortunately really don't like this. The vocals aren't pleasant, and there are only a few seconds of the melody here and there that I like a tiny bit. Otherwise it's generally just too messy for me.

    3
    Submitted by @hollowkatt

    45th
    Lolita Jolie - Moi Lolita

    Well, this is just dance. I do feel bad about it, but it's a clear cat fail based on genre parameters. Next time I'll think more about doing a genre category, as I feel bad giving bad scores to people over failing the category, despite presumably trying their best. With this being a 50% cat fail, you can maximum get 5 points, and out of that you get 3.8, because it's decently catchy and I don't dislike dance - but it's moreso something I'd like to listen to at parties rather than in front of my computer.

    3.8
    Submitted by @Xxerox

    44th
    Of Monsters and Men - King And Lionheart

    This might be one of like only 3 songs submitted this walrus that I already have on my playlist. This is probably partly a result of this also being maybe the most popular song submitted for this walrus, which unfortunately isn't a plus, as I prefer to discover new music. But more than that, it's a 50% cat fail based on there also being a male singer here. And then one more point is deducted for it being so popular and well-known. But I love the song, so out of the possible score of 4 points you get max points, at least.

    4
    Submitted by @WaltDisney

    43rd
    SHYGIRL — BB

    I... Don't know what to say to this. This is club, hip hop, electro dance, trip hop, jungle... But it's not indie pop or anything close to it :P. That being said, I actually quite dig it, so I guess I'll give you 3.1 points just for that, and 1 point for it being a female artist after all.

    4.1
    Submitted by @Geo

    42nd
    Cults - Abducted

    Oh man... A good genre fit, but then there's suddenly a guy singing... It was supposed to be only female vocals. Gonna have to deduct a couple of points for that, as this is unarguably not following the category specifications. As for the song itself, it's fine. It sounds like a decent filler song on an album that might have other songs I really like.

    4.5

    41st
    You and I - Ingrid Michaelson

    This is apparently quite a popular song, but I've never heard it before. A pleasant sounding song, and I appreciate this being more singer-songwriter'y in its vocals and style as a break from the rest. Plus this just has way more dynamics, and the last 30 seconds really does a lot for it. Improves on every listen... All that being said, pretty sure it has male vocals? But I like it a lot, and I feel bad about other songs I don't like as much being placed higher than this... So you get a maximum of 5 out of 5 possible points.

    5
    Submitted by @Phighter

    40th
    Clairo - Flamin Hot Cheetos

    You are the second person to submit Clairo for this one. Unfortunately I don't like this song, at all. I wish I could say better things about it, because I don't want to be harsh, but ... This is just a weird song to me. It seems like it's very dull, monotone and uncatchy on purpose, and I guess that might appeal to some people? It just doesn't do anything for me whatsoever. But it's a cat fit, at least.

    5.1
    Submitted by @Nicki Minaj

    39th
    Hannya - Sexores

    Just waaaay too mellow for me. Not my style, sorry :/

    5.3
    Submitted by @schadd

    38th
    Antigone Rising - Don't Look Back

    This is moreso country rock and not indie pop :/. Besides it being somewhat a cat fail, country is super hit or miss with me, and this is mostly a miss. Just a personal taste thing, mostly, and not a dig on the song or you at all.

    5.4
    Submitted by @ondine

    37th
    Charli XCX - Backseat (feat. Carly Rae Jepsen)

    There are a few elements to the melody that I like (mostly the outro actually, lol, except the cheesy "It's Charli, baby" which is a big no no), but overall it's not a song I'd like to listen to again, unfortunately. A combination of it sounding too mainstream for me and me not totally liking the singer's voice. Also, while I haven't heard this song before, both these artists are pretty popular, no?

    5.5
    Submitted by @gbsfranca

    36th
    Hayley Williams - Roses/Lotus/Violet/Iris

    I like Hayley's voice and some of her other music, so I was excited for this. Unfortunately, I was left a bit disappointed. It's pleasant sounding enough and has potential to be a great song, but it just needs ... more. A better chorus or something to add to the dynamic of the song.

    5.6
    Submitted by @Logic

    35th
    Sixpence None The Richer - Kiss Me

    I consider this moreso straight pop or at least pop rock. In any case, it doesn't so much fall within my tastes. The riff is catchy and all, but the song overall is just... Too bright pop'ish, whereas I moreso prefer atmospheric, moody or out-of-the-norm pop'ish, if that makes sense. I've actually used this song before in one of my movies as "the cliche love song that plays during a couple's happy times". Plus, it's an insanely popular song, so I have to deduct for that as well.

    5.7
    Submitted by @Apoc

    34th
    Katie Pruitt - Expectations

    This is contemporary country and not so much indie pop, imo. Nice enough riff, though. But the song as a whole just isn't enough of a genre fit or exciting to me.

    5.8
    Submitted by @Telleo

    33rd
    Alvvays - Next of Kin

    This falls into that same category of 3-4 other submissions to this category for me: Pleasant'ish and definitely indie or dream pop, but too mellow (or just not moody in the way I like). I guess I just have a certain taste when it comes to this genre, and I feel bad for these kind of songs not being within my tastes :P. Dunno if this makes you feel better, but you JUST missed out on my wife's top 5 (you were her 6th favorite).

    5.9
    Submitted by @nutella

    32nd
    Baek Yerin - Merry and the Witch's Flower

    Ooh, some Korean. And it's from someone that doesn't even know my love for Korean culture, I think. I guess it starts off promisingly, it's nice and pleasant... But it never quite moves me or does something to put it over the top. It just stays at "nice enough".

    6.1
    Submitted by @shubaka17

    31st
    BoA - Duvet

    Oh wow, I did not expect BoA to be subbed, LOL! And I was gonna say, this sounds a lot like an opening to an anime. While I like K-Pop, I do not usually like J-Pop (or J-Pop sounding music) or these anime intro songs, with a few exceptions. It just doesn't really do anything for me. It's not terrible, but it's just a bit meh.

    6.2
    Submitted by @BLOODYRAIN10001

    30th
    You Are What You Love - Jenny Lewis & The Watson Twins

    Good category fit, and I was intrigued from the beginning, but I'm just never really drawn in. It's the very definition of a "decent song" to me, and not more than that. I guess when an indie pop song has this kind of vibe to it, I prefer it to have even more upbeatness or melodic swings. It's a bit too mellow for me.

    6.3
    Submitted by @Sunbae

    29th
    CHVRCHES - Leave A Trace

    This is a band I feel I should listen to a lot more, since a lot of people whose music taste I like all seem to love this band. This song specifically doesn't totally do it for me. I don't like the chorus, but the rest of the song is decent.

    6.4
    Submitted by @Cuthalion

    28th
    Apparat - Goodbye

    This is apparently the theme from Dark? I've heard it mentioned many times, should I watch it? With regards to the song, I guess you could call it ambient pop as a stretch, but it's like 95% ambient and 5% pop, if even that, in my opinion, and a lot of that is instrumental. I see why it could work well as an intro to a "dark" series, and it IS decent, but I dunno... It has a very long intro that only pays 50% off - for me, at least.

    6.5
    Submitted by @Visorslash

    27th
    Eve's plum - lipstuck

    This is pretty rock'y, lol, straight from the first power riff. I guess it could also be classified as power pop, although power pop wasn't in the pop variants I listed... But I like it surprisingly much, actually, and I'm surprised to see that it was never a single? That saves it from a bad score.

    6.7
    Submitted by @Takhitty

    26th
    KT Tunstall - Black Horse And The Cherry Tree

    I love the song and would easily rate it a 9+, but it's a pretty popular song that I know all too well, and also while it's not a complete genre miss by any means, I do think it's moreso country pop'ish or contemporary folk'ish than indie pop'ish. If you guys haven't seen her live, you should.

    6.8
    Submitted by @Ciderhead

    25th
    Caroline Polachek - So Hot You're Hurting My Feelings

    Very good category fit, this is like quintessential indie pop, lol, from the song and the styling to the music video. I find myself really wanting to like this song more than I do, but it's just only... Decent. I even listened to it several times, in the hopes I'd grow to like it more. It needs a better chorus, I think I've concluded. I will definitely be checking out some of her other songs though.

    6.9
    Submitted by @MyNameIsNothing

    23rd (tied)
    Melody's Echo Chamber - I Follow You

    So while I also like this kind of music, I consider this track much more alt rock/space rock'y than indie or dream pop'y. It's a song that's close to being something I like, but it's a bit too messy. Too many overlayered sounds or instruments, and not enough catchy or pleasant sounding parts to make up for it. I listened to it five times to give it a fair chance, but ultimately I have to give it a medium score.

    7 (including 1 wifey bonus point)
    Submitted by @Jockmcplop

    23rd (tied)
    Lauren Bousfield - Slow Slicing/Klonopin

    I guess with the stretch of the imagination, this is somewhat electropop, but it's pretty overwhelmingly glitch to me. That being said, I really like the song, and since it's not a TOTAL genre miss, I give it a middling score.

    7
    Submitted by @LordQuas

    22nd
    Edie Brickell & New Bohemians - What I Am

    This sounds to me as if Red Hot Chili Peppers was a female band and did indie pop. Which isn't a bad thing, because I quite like RHCP. I dig like the overall sound and feeling of this, and I'd be interested to check out more from this band, but this feels like a filler song from an album with many other songs that I'd probably like more. So a middling score because of that.

    7.1
    Submitted by @GeneralHankerchief

    21st
    Sigrid - Don’t Kill My Vibe

    Oh, this is from the Sucker Punch OST? Interesting, because I actually listened a whole lot to that back when it came out, but I guess this song didn't have an impact on me. It's a good cat fit and I don't mind the singer's voice, and it has a melody that I think might be catchy for many people. Unfortunately it just isn't for me, and I'm not sure I can explain why. The slower parts are the best ones, whereas the upbeat parts grate me a tiny bit. But the live version is definitely better than the studio version, so you made a good choice in going that route :P

    7.2
    Submitted by @xander biscuits

    20th
    Help I'm Alive by Metric

    I love Metric, and I love this song. Absolutely love. I saw them live at Coachella once and was singing along to all their hits. I would've characterized them as indie rock though, but after looking it up I guess they're apparently indie pop also. I definitely do think there are very rock'ish elements in this song, though, so that fact and the fact that I know them very well lowers the score.

    7.3
    Submitted by @KnightsofCydonia

    19th
    Stef Chura - Spotted Gold

    This is definitely more indie rock than indie pop, imo, but I won't classify it as a cat fail. As for whether I like it -- I love the riff, but the rest of the song doesn't manage to truly live up to the riff's potential. It's as if everything that's added to it makes the song less exciting than when it was just the riff.

    7.4
    Submitted by @MagykalWagykal

    18th
    Hooverphonic - Mad About You

    These guys were supposed to represent Belgium at the Eurovision Song Contest 2020, so that alone makes me like them :P. And I of course know this song very well. I would say this is a bit more trip hop'y and Bond theme'y than dream pop'y, but I guess it barely counts. I really like it, though, so the point deductions are mostly for me knowing the song very well and for it being only a 75% category fit imo.

    7.5
    Submitted by @Rhand

    16th (tied)
    Mallrat - Charlie

    I always feel bad not giving good genre hits higher scores, but while this is pleasant sounding enough, it just doesn't excite me. It needs either something surprising or something catchy, imo. Gets slightly better on more listens.

    7.6/10 (including 1 wifey bonus point)
    Submitted by @KipperRed

    16th (tied)
    Florence + the Machine - Third Eye

    Hmm... Well, the artist is very popular, but I don't know the song, so I guess I won't deduct too much, as you are still introducing me to new music. With regards to the song, it became more catchy the more I listened to it, and I mean, I love Florence's vocals on almost anything. But not SUPER duper excited about it - still after a few listens I'm unsure whether it makes my playlist.

    7.6
    Submitted by @sheepsaysmeep

    15th
    King Princess - Pussy Is God

    I'm guessing critics might like this song for being slightly provokative, but the lyrics aren't my thing (this is the first and only song where I actually decided to look up and study the lyrics). But this is one of those songs that get better the more you listen to it, melody-wise. It has a cool enough vibe to it. But it doesn't quite make it to "putting it on my playlist" quality. I think. But I'll listen to more of her stuff, for sure.

    7.8
    Submitted by @t om

    14th
    AMANDA PALMER - Want It Back

    Pretty good. The drums and the bass carry the song here, and I also quite like the singer's voice. And it ends with a climax part rather than just fizzling out, which I always like.

    7.9
    Submitted by @Wisdom

    13th
    björk : earth intruders

    Ah, art/experimental pop. I'm pretty certain björk is very critically acclaimed and she's someone that I've always felt that I should love, based on the other stuff I like, but I guess she is generally just too experimental for me. But I mean, I don't dislike this. It's a bit catchy, and it's interesting. The start was very promising, but it never quite becomes enough to do it for me after that. It's interesting, I think this has the opposite problem of many of the other submitted songs - I like the chorus, the verses less so. I saw her live once. OK, nvm, after several listens, it's grown on me.

    8.1
    Submitted by @Wesmaster160

    12th
    Fever Ray 'Keep The Streets Empty For Me'

    Another popular song that I don't think I've heard? Pretty cool vibe to this. I'd say this is pretty similar to several of my example songs. It's like a mix between mellow and moody, and the moodiness is what does it for me. If it had a bit more energy in places, I'd like it even better.

    8.2
    Submitted by @Viggorous

    11th
    Klô Pelgag - Umami

    Did not expect baroque pop to make it into this walrus, but here we are. And what a pleasure it is! Totally digging this. It's upbeat without being annoying, it's catchy without being too pop'ish. And the French vocals just add a nice touch to it.

    8.3
    Submitted by @Carotte

    10th
    june - A Little Messed Up

    Very good genre hit, and wow, this is a Danish artist? Never heard of them before, and it's difficult to really find more information or material from them. I like the vibe of this, good one.

    8.4
    @Frog

    9th
    Clairo - Sofia

    So on a "mood level" this song is similar to many of the other indie pop songs that I've been kinda "meh" on in this category, but what makes this different and better than those - to me - is the lo-fi and/or synth feel to it. Which is of course a personal taste thing. But hey, I learned more about my own taste :P. All that being said, it still isn't a top score for me, maybe because the mellowness all things considered still doesn't excite me, but the other things do make it pretty good as opposed to just decent. Had the part around 1:40 lasted a bit longer or been used a bit more or in a different way also in other parts of the song, that could've done it for me. OK nvm, I listened more to it, and it keeps growing on me.

    8.5
    Submitted by @evaaaa

    8th
    Agnes Obel - Familiar

    Trying to flatter me with a Danish artist? I see what you're doing. I do like Agnes Obel, this tune no exception to that, and she's very good live. But I'm obviously... familiar with her

    8.6
    Submitted by @ladd

    7th
    Kate Nash - Foundations

    The whole song sounds like one long, pretty decent upbeat-but-not-upbeat verse where I am just waiting for the very catchy hook or riff to drop and draw me in, but it just never happens. But a pretty fine song overall.

    8.7 (including 1 wifey bonus point)
    Submitted by @YouAreNotGoingToNeedIt

    5th (tied)
    FLETCHER - Bitter (with Kito)

    So I would've called this basically straight R&B, but I'm being told by the interwebz that it also classifies as electropop, so I won't score it as a cat fail, but only slightly deduct it for being way more R&B than indie pop. All that being said, this is a version of R&B that is pretty decent. Or at least, there are certain parts in there that I really like and that I look forward to hearing again when relistening to the song.

    9 (including 1 wifey bonus point)
    Submitted by @Owner Of A Lonely Heart

    5th (tied)
    Halsey - I Walk The Line

    The only cover submitted to this category, I believe. And oh boy, is it a risk, since I very much like the original... But the risk pays off. I am totally digging this. I got chills listening to this. I can't listen to this without bopping my head along to the beat. However, I can't give it more than a 9 because of it not being an original.

    9
    Submitted by @power27

    4th
    Broods - Bridges

    One of the very few songs that I already have on my playlist. I really like the song and just synthpop in general. According to my research, Broods has apparently never been submitted to an MU walrus before? Wow. This is their most popular song, but I don't feel like I can really deduct anything for it, because it's not like a super popular band or anything. So here you go, a high score . Fun fact, the music video was shot in Denmark.

    9.4
    Submitted by @NinjaPenguin

    3rd
    Skott - Glitter & Gloss

    Yes, yes, yes! Good job. Very good category fit, and even if you didn't it seems like you actually listened to my example songs, because the vibe, mood and atmosphere of this 100% matches what I like. Insta-added to my playlist.

    9.5
    Submitted by @moon

    2nd
    Mallrat - Groceries

    Mmh, very good genre hit. I really like it. Very mellow and catchy at the same time. I find myself jamming/rocking to it in my chair.

    9.7 (including 1 wifey bonus point)
    Submitted by @JohnCarter

    1st
    NOSTALGHIA - God Be You

    I feel like you may be the only person that listened to my example songs (I'm sure that isn't the case, of course). This definitely has the atmosphere that I so love. Ambient/alt pop at a high level, imo. And a huge bonus is that I've never heard of her, and am very excited to check out the rest of her stuff. Thumbs up.

    9.8
    Submitted by @Exalt
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    I'm not opposed to changing it to aggregrate...

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#182)
    Quote Originally Posted by Logic (#176)
    Quote Originally Posted by Takhitty (#175)
    What is the official aggregate scoring method? BEcause if I'm reading the OP correctly it's aggregate points, not aggregate (average) positions.
    Sum points will be used. Not average placement.
    @Logic @Thingyman

    This makes some judges scores worth more than others unless you normalize it and makes absolutely no sense

    What possible reason could you guys have for this, it's not like it makes counting easier? (If anything it's harder!)

    8th place in Logic's walrus was worth 9.3 points.

    1st place in Visor's walrus was worth 9.2...
    I'm not opposed to changing it to aggregrate ranking. We're doing a vote in the host chat to decide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#189)
    Oh ya @Thingyman

    Is this a catfit and how many points does it get if so:

    https://youtu.be/qeMFqkcPYcg

    It's a super popular song, so would've been docked a whole lot for that alone.
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    Thank you to everyone for following the reveal!...

    Thank you to everyone for following the reveal! Will post scores in thread tomorrow.
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    Apoc BLOODYRAIN10001 Carotte Ciderhead ...

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    Sticky: Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    It's time to talk about Game 9! Hope to see a lot of you there

    Guests: @Gomes, @Holyflare, @Master Radishes, @Sunset and @Samusamu

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    It's time to talk about Game 9! Hope to see a lot of you there

    Guests: @Gomes, @Holyflare, @Master Radishes, @Sunset and @Samusamu

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    It's time to talk about Game 9! Hope to see a lot of you there

    Guests: @Gomes, @Holyflare, @Master Radishes, @Sunset and @Samusamu

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    Completed Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 9 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    It's time to talk about Game 9! Hope to see a lot of you there

    Guests: @Gomes, @Holyflare, @Master Radishes, @Sunset and @Samusamu

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    I will be revealing Category 8 (Female Indie Pop) tonight after the Championship podcast. That means the reveal should start around 5.45-6 PM EST. If you wanna follow along, just hop into the music channel on the Discord server at that time. I might even live stream it on Twitch, but I need to work out logistics for that and not sure I have the time to work it out in time. We'll see.
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    Actually, I'm not gonna be around to reveal this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thingyman (#76)
    ROUND 1:

    Do you think that World War III will happen in your lifetime?

    A. Yes
    B. No



    Send me a PM with your answer. There is no correct or incorrect answer - you want to side with the minority in order to advance to the next round.

    You are allowed to communicate freely with others here in this thread or anywhere else, if you so wish. And lying is of course permitted.

    You may change your vote at any time, given the round has not yet ended. I will ONLY accept answers via PM here on MU.

    Deadline: About 48 hours from now, i.e. July 6th at 6 PM EST. Only Round 1 will last 48 hours. After that, each round lasts 24 hours. I just want to make sure everyone is getting enough notice.
    Actually, I'm not gonna be around to reveal this at 6 PM EST on that day anyway, and with July 5th I also want to give a bit of extra time. So reveal and deadline will be 2 PM EST on July 7th.
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    ROUND 1: Do you think that World War III will...

    ROUND 1:

    Do you think that World War III will happen in your lifetime?

    A. Yes
    B. No



    Send me a PM with your answer. There is no correct or incorrect answer - you want to side with the minority in order to advance to the next round.

    You are allowed to communicate freely with others here in this thread or anywhere else, if you so wish. And lying is of course permitted.

    You may change your vote at any time, given the round has not yet ended. I will ONLY accept answers via PM here on MU.

    Deadline: About 48 hours from now, i.e. July 6th at 6 PM EST. Only Round 1 will last 48 hours. After that, each round lasts 24 hours. I just want to make sure everyone is getting enough notice.
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    Nah... I'll allow late entries until whenever...

    Quote Originally Posted by xander biscuits (#42)
    Any particular reason the deadline to enter is a day before the reveal?
    Nah...

    I'll allow late entries until whenever I reveal.

    I need to do a podcast tomorrow and hopefully a walrus reveal after on the same night first. Then I need to start the Minority Rules game, and then I'll reveal this maybe Tuesday? I'll let you guys know.
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    Completed Samusamu Add me on Discord, please:...

    Quote Originally Posted by Samusamu (#5058)
    Congrats again to radish and Penguin for advance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thingyman (#5052)


    Who would be down to join the podcast this Sunday at 4 PM EST?

    I can take in a maximum of 7 guests.

    For those who don't know, it's a live streamed webcam podcast hosted right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman (where you can see the previous eps)
    If there are less than 7 count on me.

    I will be around i think.
    @Samusamu

    Add me on Discord, please: Thingyman#6075
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    generic ping, to save myself a lot of time, sorry...

    Quote Originally Posted by ondine (#38)
    I sent mine in already. Is this just a generic ping, or did mine not go through?
    generic ping, to save myself a lot of time, sorry :P
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    Deadline is today! 3cheersforidiots ...

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    Completed Boquise Hermynator Holyflare MagykalWagykal...



    Who would be down to join the podcast this Sunday at 4 PM EST?

    I can take in a maximum of 7 guests.

    For those who don't know, it's a live streamed webcam podcast hosted right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman (where you can see the previous eps)
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    We have about 40 entries. Reminder that...

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    And that's it, thank you! We have 54 entries....

    And that's it, thank you!

    We have 54 entries.

    I've talked with the other judges and we'll get back to you on when we can reveal. Most of us will need a few days to score the last batch of entries.
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    https://www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman going live...

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    Completed https://www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman going live...

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    (I just mass tagged a bunch of people in the...

    (I just mass tagged a bunch of people in the Event 4 thread, so I'll tag people tomorrow for this one)
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    It's the strategic version of PEEHS, basically,...

    Quote Originally Posted by warren42 (#10)
    So it's pretty similar to PEEHS?

    /in
    It's the strategic version of PEEHS, basically, played one round at a time, yes :P
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    And with that said - you can now sign up for...

    And with that said - you can now sign up for Event 4

    And to be clear. This game has not yet started, it is expected to start July 4 and all signed up players + everyone on the master list will be tagged. I'm taking sign-ups until the Mayor game is over, and even after that you can still get in while Round 1 is still ongoing.

    For a majority of people, this will be the easiest and least time consuming game to play, as you literally just need to submit one item to me before the end of every round. But if you want, you can of course choose to spend a bit more time on this game and try to get information from the other players.

    Cliffs: Try to choose the least popular answer among the options (i.e. try to be in the minority). That's it.

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    Olympic Event 4: Minority Rule

    OLYMPIC EVENT 4: MINORITY RULE

    Rules
    Each round you'll be presented with a List of Items. You must cast a vote for one of these Items via PM to me. You may change your vote at any time, given the round has not yet ended. I will ONLY accept answers via PM here on MU.

    At the end of each round, the players who voted for the Item with the most number of votes are eliminated, and the next round begins.

    The game will continue in this fashion until the player pool is reduced to 2 or fewer.

    Whether your vote is honest or not doesn't matter. You should only ask yourself: "How do I get into the minority group and not the majority?".

    With 2 or 1 player(s) left, the game will end and those left standing will be crowned victor(s).

    Since exact rankings may have significant implications for the Olympic standings, it will work like this: If it is ever possible to decide ties/separate people in rankings going off of how they did in previous rounds compared to other players eliminated in the same round, I will do this. I.e. if in Round 8, Player A and Player B are eliminated with 6 players left, then they would ordinarily tie for 5th. But if in Round 7, Player A chose a less popular Item than Player B, then Player A gets 5th and Player B gets 6th.

    You won't know in advance how many items there will be to choose between each round, except for this:

    • When/if there are 5 players left, there will be 3 Items to choose from.
    • When/if there are 4 players left, there will be 3 Items to choose from.
    • When/if there are 3 players left, there will be 2 Items to choose from.

    You are freely allowed to communicate with whomever you want, however you want. Whether in this thread or in private.

    The EXACT start depends a bit on when the Mayor game (Event 1) finishes, but according to my calculations it should be wrapped up by July 4, so I'm going for a weekend start.

    ANYONE reading this can sign up until Round 1 is over.

    Each round lasts a minimum of 24 hours. Round 1 might be a bit longer.
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    Game 8 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 8 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    We have another good podcast coming up! Today we'll be talking about Game 8, the only game to ever be cancelled in Mafia Championship history.

    Guests: @Arapocalypse, @dyachei, @Ash Lael, @Zen Blade and @Daniel

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    Game 8 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 8 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    We have another good podcast coming up! Today we'll be talking about Game 8, the only game to ever be cancelled in Mafia Championship history.

    Guests: @Arapocalypse, @dyachei, @Ash Lael, @Zen Blade and @Daniel

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    Completed Game 8 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM...

    Game 8 Mafia Championship Podcast today at 4 PM EST

    We have another good podcast coming up! Today we'll be talking about Game 8, the only game to ever be cancelled in Mafia Championship history.

    Guests: @Arapocalypse, @dyachei, @Ash Lael, @Zen Blade and @Daniel

    Make sure to tune in at 4 PM EST right here: www.twitch.tv/mrthingyman
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    ignoramus Just to be clear: You don't have to...

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#29)
    Sounds fun /in
    @ignoramus

    Just to be clear: You don't have to write /in to join. It doesn't work like a mafia game.

    The game has already started, so to say, and all you need to do is send me an entry with your answers to the questions in OP.
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    Light nice, welcome to MU, kyro :D

    Quote Originally Posted by kyro (#18)
    /in
    nice, welcome to MU, @kyro
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    With so many entries coming this late, I can...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthopathy (#83)
    Is there an estimated time for when results will be out?
    With so many entries coming this late, I can imagine at least a few of my co-hosts will need a few days to complete their scoring.

    But I'm heavily expecting reveals to start happening next week and then probably going into the week after that. Depending on how quickly the different judges score, I want to have 2 reveals a day, so that it'll be 4 days of reveals.

    For those unfamiliar with walrus, how it works is like this: A reveal time is announced, and then people get into a voice channel on the MU Discord where you listen to and talk about the songs as they're revealed. For my own reveal I might even live stream it on Twitch (I need to check though if I can actually play the songs in a live stream, not sure).
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    I have to imagine that varies a lot between the...

    Quote Originally Posted by xander biscuits (#81)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thingyman (#80)
    Up to 46 entries or something now, good stuff!

    edit: 47 actually!
    That's a lot of entries. What sort of listening/judging time is being given?
    I have to imagine that varies a lot between the judges.

    For myself, I've listened to each song an average of 2.5-3 times.
  36. Hanging out with the in-laws is not my idea of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Takhitty (#88)
    Quote Originally Posted by Thingyman (#87)
    Only just got home and it’s after midnight.
    Hmmm, somebody's been out partying.
    Hanging out with the in-laws is not my idea of partying :P

    Though in Denmark it is allowed to be 50 ppl together now, so home parties are allowed.
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    Up to 46 entries or something now, good stuff! ...

    Up to 46 entries or something now, good stuff!

    edit: 47 actually!
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    What Apoc said (though it’s off memory, so I may...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#73)
    @Thingyman can you confirm that I'm in? I see that I'm not on the list of pings you made after saying 36 people in and I'm not sure if that's the list of entries or list of people not entered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#74)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#73)
    @Thingyman can you confirm that I'm in? I see that I'm not on the list of pings you made after saying 36 people in and I'm not sure if that's the list of entries or list of people not entered.
    i assume its a list of people on the Olympics mailing list who has not submitted
    What Apoc said (though it’s off memory, so I may have accidentally tagged people that have already submitted)
  39. Proudest moment or accomplishment?

    Proudest moment or accomplishment?
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    Completed Good play all around, for sure. GG everyone. ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fransisc0 (#6625)
    Can't believe I missed the reveal!

    Congrats @Timsup2nothin and @Jackofhearts2005 for getting to the semi-finals and your excellent play. And congrats @OrangeP47, @Aquilla, and @Echks for your stellar play and your ranking!

    I genuinely had a hard time picking because I feel like so many people, if not all of us, played well in various ways this game. Congrats all!
    Good play all around, for sure. GG everyone.

    And @Fransisc0 - def hope to be seeing you around 👍
  41. Will throw up Event 4 tomorrow. Only just got...

    Will throw up Event 4 tomorrow. Only just got home and it’s after midnight. Besides, mayor game needs to wrap up first :P
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    yeah, sure, you can always re-submit

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#25)
    @Thingyman Can we submit now and change answers later or no?
    yeah, sure, you can always re-submit
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    Fair enough. There are 8 other events that'll...

    Quote Originally Posted by lendunistus (#69)
    I got voted out D1 in mayor and I don’t even listen to music all that much soooo no
    Fair enough. There are 8 other events that'll hopefully interest you

    Edit: Reminder that the worst event score is removed from your score, if you choose to play all 10 events.
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    Completed That said, GG everyone!

    That said, GG everyone!
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    Completed In relation to this: I do think it's a shame...

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin022 (#4753)
    Quote Originally Posted by Poison (#4716)
    Okay penguin sounds rather weird right now.
    I was frozen at this post and I was about to make a post that would probably have dug my own grave but thankfully the topic locked wow
    In relation to this:

    I do think it's a shame that the vote came so quickly after. Because this is the hardest spot in the game for a scum to be in. I definitely think you should always try to see how they behave under this kind of pressure.
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    BATMAN Gomes To play this event you don't need...

    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN (#56)
    In
    Quote Originally Posted by Gomes (#57)
    in
    @BATMAN @Gomes

    To play this event you don't need to in. You need to read OP and submit your entry to me :P

    You have 2 days to do this. If OP is confusing to, let me know.
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    Chemist1422 GeneralHankerchief Phoenix13 ...





    3) @ladd (4-8 pm)
    4) @t om (deadline doesn't matter)
    6) @Willi (Euro)
    8) @atomicpianowitch (4-8 EST)
    9) @Carotte (6-10 EST)
    10) @Transcend (4-6 EST)
    11) @Phoenix13 (deadline doesn't matter)
    12) @Jan (Euro)
    13) @Cuthalion (anytime)
    15) @Nicki Minaj (5 EST)
    16) @Phighter (US)
    18) @Frog (US)
    22) @tonystarkprime (10-2a EST)
    25) @JohnCarter (Aussie, 10p EST)
    28) @BATMAN (US)
    29) @condude1 (US)
    33) @TripleHaven (after 5 EST)
    35) @Caccio72 (whenever)
    36) @WizKvothe (Indian time)
    37) @Achromatic (4-8 pm est)
    39) @NASAGeek (Amsterdam-based)
    41) @Untrained Pup (whenever)
    42) @gbsfranca (Euro)
    43) @lendunistus (Euro)
    44) @Secondhand Revenant (good for most times. PST but can be around whenever usually)
    45) @Lads (2 pm or maybe 3 pm EST is best for me)
    46) @Cobalt (8-10 EST)
    48) @Xxerox (EU)
    49) @NinjaPenguin (2-4pm EST or 10-11PM EST works best for me)
    50) @Tsunami (afternoon to evening est)
    51) @Viggorous (EU)
    54) @KTthecreeper (US)
    55) @Fenrir (US)
    56) @Arapocalypse (whenever)
    57) @Paratroopa (PDT evening)
    59) @Angrypotato (10pm -11am est)
    60) @TheWabbit (aussie-friendly deadlines)
    63) @SuperMarioBros (US, PDT)
    65) @lol (Euro)
    66) @WaltDisney (deadline doesnt matter)
    67) @awesome5000 (US)
    @billymills
    @xander biscuits
    @silmarils
    @Owner Of A Lonely Heart


    We are up to 36 entries.

    Deadline is in 2 days. Make sure to get your entry in, so you can score more points for the MU Olympics
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    Needs Tested Big fan of this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion (#110)
    Big fan of this one.
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    Thread: Introduce Yourself

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    Sticky: Welcome to MU, @Rasholnikov :D If you haven't...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raskolnikov (#3200)
    Hello guys,

    just registered to follow the mafia championship. I am from Civfanatics. I played Mafia there and at the Org in 2010/11 and came back to it since last year.

    Go @Timsup2nothin!

    Welcome to MU, @Rasholnikov

    If you haven't already, you should definitely join our Discord server to follow the action there.
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    Completed Mafia Championship Podcast - Episode 8 - Game 7...

    Mafia Championship Podcast - Episode 8 - Game 7 Discussion (Guests: @SilverKeith, @Captain Video, @moth, @roundbox, @tonystarkprime, @Sheppard and special guest @Lissa)

    Thank you once again for a very fun podcast! For the first time ever we had the entire mafia team and both JOAT's on for what was the biggest podcast yet.

    Be sure to tune in again this Sunday where we will hopefully be talking about Game 8 (the game that got cancelled and ended in a draw).

    Find episode 8 here:

    Episode Summary
    First we had Lissa reveal the votes and without spoiling too much -- we have a new record! After the vote reveal, we discussed the final 3 situation, the JOAT claim battle, mindmelding with other players and whether to read into it, the difficulty of making hero calls, how to deal with fatigue in longer games, and more!
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