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Originally Posted by Esooa 1688435751 (#33)

@staypositivefriend since the last didn't work
@Ominoire
@joqiza
@bladescape
@arogame123
@Wisdom
@Vandyfan402
@Schiavetto
@Seven
@Chelsea
@Ephemera
@Rose Disco
@Butterscotch Sundae
@luckbox
@orangeandblack5
@Limestone

appreciate the ping but WAY too busy atm to join a game

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip

Had a lot of family emergencies through the end of the semester and am now wrapped up in working 84+ hours per week

made going back through D1 feel like it was never worth trying to start

ggwp scum but I still think we shoulda just let yesterday run out a full year because why not lol

Originally Posted by Apoc 1679999687 (#12)

As far as paying for a service to protect the site

I'm going to be ruthlessly pragmatic & cynical here...what are we protecting?

Other than our (probably) low security gamer website passwords. And our email addresses which are almost certainly publicly available elsewhere...


We dont (that i know of?) have piles of sensitive personal info, we dont collect banking info, medical records, etc.

I mean hell, not a single one of you even knows my first name.

I think regular patching would suffice to avoid the occasional inconvenience? Maybe I'm the crazy one

Full agree with this, I would rather stockpile extra money to cover future costs than protect people's passwords and e-mails, which are very much not sensitive personal information

Re:ads - I doubt they would move the needle very much, but they might dissuade people from joining the site, and that's going to do more harm than good in the long run.

did we lose anything through the site hack lol

I have literally no idea

lol my life

figured I should let you all know my grandmother fell on ice and couldn't get up, was stuck outside for at least an hour in the cold

gonna drive up and stay with her the rest of break, she seems fine according to neighbors but better safe than sorry

gameplay delayed again

luckily that's done now so this and my walrus are shooting up my priority list

bad news is I go home tomorrow and I'm sure my family won't want me on my phone trying to ISO the whole time

good news is I come back on Sunday and then my course load is WAY lower for a few weeks

this time, frfr, things should be able to move at a clip I actually like

still you will not be seeing me join any more games anywhere in any capacity until at least December lmao

I was planning to do one ISO per day over break but that went out the window REALLY fast lmao

okay wow I forgot how insane the solar car fulltime work schedule is my bad guys

ha gottem

just popping in rq to confirm I am alive but also have been in that fun "literally not sleeping" stage of schoolwork, as I predicted

i like the mountain

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1676183945 (#9401)

Orange, you had a bit over a month to get some semblance of reads together for D5. Let's not forget that this game has been ongoing since late October. If you're not going to vote, then put out some reads. I don't care if someone's just your gutread or not. Talk about, whack it, but at least put some observations into words. Otherwise, we're going to await another month of "I need more time" and "please unvote thank you."

yeppers

have two of my classes ending in a week and a day and another big deadline in roughly the same timeframe

that means that the odds of me finding time within that timeframe to do a full ISO is going to be hard (I had known that the earlygame went way too fast, but didn't really realize just how much that extended outside of Bowser until I started looking at the idea of ISOing people now)

but that the odds of me finding that time afterwards go up substantially

you can't tho because I just said that's a bad assumption like 5 times

also to be clear I don't promise to reach the right conclusion

I'm not some mega-genius

but what I do promise is to put this game on the track it should have been on from the start pacing-wise and to go into lylo having laid every card on the table I'm ever going to be able to lay

that being said your reaction to that post also reads gth wolfy but I really don't know you well so I'ma just discount that going forward

for now

I'm good

but as I said I'm not planning to vote, wagon, or even really pressure you any time soon

ty for unvoting btw

Originally Posted by Schweppes 1676139678 (#9380)

i will now bounce out again in the vain hope OB votes within a month.

i wouldn't count on it but maybe who knows

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1676092707 (#9368)

Lol nah I'm good

@aaa
@Fairy
@Haze with a Z
@lilypetal
@Ominoire
@orangeandblack5
@OUTM
@Schweppes

In an effort to get some progression, let's do this again. Everyone post 2 people you would be willing to vote today. No obligation about voting or whatever. Just lets us tabulate numbers and see where people are.

Mine are OUTM and Lily.

oh so now it's cool

lily and lily

I think all roads point to lily

I think I end today voting lily almost always

I refuse to actually do so before I've taken the time to be 110% confident in that vote

and if I end up making it and it's wrong that's on me

but I will not rush to it

game I was hosting is over so that'll free up some time, had started a wes iso but didn't get far enough to comment in a way I trust to be accurate

the scary thing is if I maintain that through an entire iso re-read then my suspect pool drops towards wes's except aaa is obvtown and obviously I'm not scum which would just leave lily/omin/outm and I still don't think outm is scum tbh

at least even if wes is town and wes townreads fairy that doesn't mean I have to as well

we'll see

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1674193465 (#9131)

aaa/lily have been positioned as v/w pretty strongly this game. Both by their attitudes towards each other as well as framing from other players. They could both be wolves, but I think that's a pretty low possibility. They could theoretically be town, meaning the exact team would be OUTM/Ominoire/Orange. Buttttttt...

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1667096922 (#1606)

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1667096169 (#1598)

Originally Posted by Schweppes 1667096077 (#1596)

I'm assumıng OB can handle themselves, but ?

Schweppes, you went through your depression phase. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you and I both know that people can't always handle themselves.

I don't mean to be rude, but you need to seriously rethink your approach to talking with other people if you don't want to keep coming off as an insensitive prick.

My apologies if you're best friends and this is some long-time inside joke I'm getting inadvertently dragged into with no context, but under the assumption that is not the case, you should take a few minutes to consider how your statements are likely to come off to others before pressing "post".

Would also help with your postcount.

Out of all the non w/w pairings I did this game, this was probably the strongest (there may have been stronger ones with Schweppes, but he's town who cares). That's not something you write to your wolf partner in thread. It's too antagonistic, it's without explanation of the the context of the statement which could have been explained in wolf chat, and it would just be a super weird post to go and think "Imma write this at my wolf partner".

I have come to believe that (independent of a necessary re-read on wes) this take feels super towny

mafia host moment

idk why you'd sign up for an infinite phase length game literally called "Mt. Everest" and expect a turbo

I was expecting it to take over a year so if anything this is fast

unrelated but

Originally Posted by William Butler Yeats 1580503721 (#3899)

I think its Cillian
Cillian thinks its Eamon
Eamon thinks is Saoirse
Saoirse thinks it me.

man that was a fun endgame

here's a quote from me at the time talking about my time irl being stupidly busy

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1580609495 (#4224)

Originally Posted by Michelle 1580551846 (#4212)

I have just one thing in my defense for poor play, I started to be extremely tired after 3 days being awake until 2 am and 12/12 is horrible... now I know why multitabling during this game would be gamethrowing. 36/12 would be better to have a night to rest between 2 EoDs.

I understood that Eamon is wolfy rereading that post from Sod 2 and I posted it but I was unable to unvote and follow the idea because I fell asleep from 5 to 5 mins and waking up like a brainless being.

About Conor, sorry Marko, it was an idiotic tinfoil

HARD relate

This was a WAY busier week for me than I thought, and I fell sick starting D1 and was sleeping for like 11 hours of the day for days 2-4

I literally didn't have time to PR hunt or even really consider kills - I just locked them and went to sleep.

I was taking classes and doing extracurriculars

There was career fair and I had job interviews

And then I fell sick on top of that and quite literally slept for nearly half of the day every irl day for a game with 12/12 phases

was not fun lmao

but yeah that's what I mean by making time

I will do it, my studies, commitments, and own health be damned

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1667419266 (#2677)

maybe they will you don't speak for them

also lol there's no defending here, I stand accused of being a reasonable human being and for that I readily admit I am guilty

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1667419799 (#2681)

You stand accused of not the barliest of barely the game, making a false statement, and then dipping out in a wolfy way when called out on it.

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1667420863 (#2683)

If it makes you feel any better me doing wolf things is my town meta :P

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1667420873 (#2684)

*wolfy

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1667420913 (#2685)

Also were you not in Irish People Anonymous

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1667420970 (#2686)

Yeah you were Yeats

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1667423520 (#2701)

Oh, who were you in that game?

I see I don't think I ever answered this whoops

Eamon de Valera

ie the only wolf that didn't suck balls lol (sorry not sorry beck/manasi/zack)

you literally dunked me to end the game

also wait wes you've literally played with me in a game in which I had no time irl and was scum

how are you of all people questioning my points about my own approach to the game across alignments lmao

if I've asked that before your response was not at all memorable so do it again but better

sell me on OUTM

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1674876961 (#9294)

Originally Posted by OUTM 1674876693 (#9292)

Oh, you're mixing me up with Lily.

Lily might as well be spelled Oily with how I've been mixing up OUTM and Orange for her.

wait how do you know oily

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1674876538 (#9287)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674876373 (#9284)

seems flashy for little gain over just getting two villas to cross

TWTBAW is an angle.

and also a useless conversation to have unless we wanna go in circles forever about me, which still seems like a waste

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1674876498 (#9285)

We're playing Mafia and they're busy playing Snakes and Ladders.

also that's pretty much it

I have no relevant meta I'm drawing on

I just don't see them as my first pick for a wolf ~ever and would be much more willing to believe they're town than scum just based on their approach seeming entirely un-agenda'd

I actually have had Haze scum until quite recently so no shot did you mix us up

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1674874750 (#9281)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674873569 (#9280)

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1674872558 (#9276)

I almost feel like it's a wolf tactic to just wait til eventually the rest of us just vote someone out to get it over with, then if they flip town Orange can come in say "Look you guys did it again voting a town out when we have infinite time" the next day.

see

I might maybe

maybe

buy that could be thought of as a valid wolf tactic

maybe

except I've already committed to literally snapvoting tomorrow if hammer goes down today before I say I'm okay with it

so

lol

....that would be exactly part of the wolf tactic? Wait til town votes out a town today while you're not part of it, then snapvote in mylo.

Like that would literally be the exact tactic if you were a wolf so I don't get the lol?

seems flashy for little gain over just getting two villas to cross

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1674872558 (#9276)

I almost feel like it's a wolf tactic to just wait til eventually the rest of us just vote someone out to get it over with, then if they flip town Orange can come in say "Look you guys did it again voting a town out when we have infinite time" the next day.

see

I might maybe

maybe

buy that could be thought of as a valid wolf tactic

maybe

except I've already committed to literally snapvoting tomorrow if hammer goes down today before I say I'm okay with it

so

lol

Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 1674860867 (#9266)

So Orange what's like the eta on when your finally caught up?

probably a few weeks

Originally Posted by OUTM 1674828065 (#9260)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674799387 (#9252)

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z 1674782934 (#9249)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674779263 (#9231)

okay so aaa can be an obvious villager

so you said a reason why they were scummy and then called them an obv villager? and why are they an obv villager?

read their ISO it's $%#!ing incredible

despite the fact I've been giving him $%#! for pivoting onto lowposters his earlygame was actually rock solid, ESPECIALLY in a world where Lily is scum but even if she isn't - excepting Kuti and Prince J, both of whom I consider to be ~forgivable mistakes, aaa has had solid read accuracy that develops in a very natural way without even the slightest hint of outside influence, particularly regarding the bottom-of-the-barrel lowposters for whom he correctly townread all of them early on for reasons that I can get behind

if he looks like obvtown not only to me but also to atpg and is actually scum he can take the W and I will literally not even be the tiniest bit mad dude would have to be playing out of his $%#!ing mind almost regardless of his team

"solid read accuracy" we haven't flipped a wolf that isn't spartan

IMO you should read aaa directly after the inactives flip, iirc he was the one who I pointed out as being like a fish out of water when it comes to scumreads. he's been frozen and, regardless of haze's alignment, his vote on them feels lazy. also i believe aaa/lily is w/t in most worlds, so resolving that is in my best interest.

I agree with that w/t take being decently likely but I'll be reading lily before I vote on it

and also I can continue the aaa ISO beyond SoD3 but frankly I don't care if somebody gets demotivated and dejected when we start turboing through the lowposters and they all come up town because, well, look around you lmao

Originally Posted by Fairy 1674814112 (#9257)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674776738 (#9223)

okay to answer your earlier question Omin

were I scum my postcount would very likely be at least 2x higher than it is right now

not that I think I ever am in danger today but

Don't really believe this tbh considering you've been giving excuses all game that you've been meaning to play more but just don't have time

the thing is as wolf I would make time at expense of my personal life

it's arguably kinda a problem and as I'm more busy irl it makes me more polarized but I'm pretty sure that if you were to sort my games by my activity level all of my top games would be scum games and all of my bottom ones would be town

regardless I don't think this is particularly relevant to moving today forward

no prob

I'll probably keep plinking through ISOs at whatever pace makes sense to my personal life

Originally Posted by aaa 1674798116 (#9250)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674781113 (#9241)

anyways I've got to go clear snow off my car and head out for the night but at least I found one more person I'm basically confident calling 100% town

which makes me feel much much better given how hard Axel dying hit me

@aaa we teaming up and we solving this $%#! tbhtbh

i'm sorry and i'm reading everything but i don't know your alignment and feel like i have no idea how to play this game and have no answers to any questions, just voting where i think might be helpful

haze just seems like they fell off a cliff and a lot of their recent comments are uninspiring and dont seem on axis with the game if that makes sense, everyone else at least seems to be playing ball at a level i feel is decent

idk if im on a hit tho, all that said

frankly I don't think Haze was ever playing ball at the level you seem to be expecting but I also don't think that makes her scum

more than happy to talk about this in depth but frankly there is (currently) nobody else in the game I would rather work together with than you

ie even if you think I'm scum it's worth running things past me and if at any point you feel like any differences in opinion we have are in fact indicative of a difference in alignment you can just call me on it

infinite time, zero risk

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z 1674782934 (#9249)

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674779263 (#9231)

okay so aaa can be an obvious villager

so you said a reason why they were scummy and then called them an obv villager? and why are they an obv villager?

read their ISO it's $%#!ing incredible

despite the fact I've been giving him $%#! for pivoting onto lowposters his earlygame was actually rock solid, ESPECIALLY in a world where Lily is scum but even if she isn't - excepting Kuti and Prince J, both of whom I consider to be ~forgivable mistakes, aaa has had solid read accuracy that develops in a very natural way without even the slightest hint of outside influence, particularly regarding the bottom-of-the-barrel lowposters for whom he correctly townread all of them early on for reasons that I can get behind

if he looks like obvtown not only to me but also to atpg and is actually scum he can take the W and I will literally not even be the tiniest bit mad dude would have to be playing out of his $%#!ing mind almost regardless of his team

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1674782656 (#9246)

Then again, you and Schweppes are competing for that town spot.

aaa dies or scum are throwing

also I can't say that Haze is definitively town until I've looked at more than just Haze/aaa in depth

on that note if you have any updated thoughts on Haze I'd take them because I think my own re-read of their ISO earlier lines up with your D1 take on them pretty well and I'm curious what drove you to override that take

anyways I've got to go clear snow off my car and head out for the night but at least I found one more person I'm basically confident calling 100% town

which makes me feel much much better given how hard Axel dying hit me

@aaa we teaming up and we solving this $%#! tbhtbh

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674780921 (#9239)

aaa how the actual hell did i not find you sooner

okay I know the answer to this but I don't wanna talk about it

aaa how the actual hell did i not find you sooner

also how did you end up on all these flipped town wagons

your D1 and early D2 are both on the order of Axel-level quality but with way more quantity (and with that a few misreads but that's how it goes)

how did we get here

okay so if I start from like

kinda zero-ish

Town
aaa
Haze with a Z
orangeandblack5
OUTM
Schweppes

Not Town
Fairy
lilypetal
Ominoire
Wesmaster160

think this is where I'm currently at

obviously it's at bare minimum wrong on one townie but I plan to ISO everybody (at least somewhat) before voting so we have time to correct

Originally Posted by orangeandblack5 1674779727 (#9235)

actually tho low-key votes for aaa kinda throwing

I'm rescinding the word "kinda" from this statement