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Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631243038 (#2383)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631242947 (#2382)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631242845 (#2380)

FINAL PREDICTIONS

DKKOBA/HOCKEYFAN/{COWS,WANG} IS YOUR MAFIA TEAM

o7 GODSPEED

u seem town ur probably just are town. im just conflicted with the reads like is there a world where u think hockey + koba are town here?

ur voting me chief

also no, they are w/w

both of their pr claims fat doodoo

shoutouts to RC for not allowing a quickhammer

grandpa i hope you fix your townplay because it might throw us the game btw you seriously gotta work on it, don't semi-quickhammer or threaten one

hockey couldve easily hammered as he has nothing to lose

Don't you dare talk about my town play and call out koba and hockey for having a PR claim. You literally claimed like 5 different things, kept retracting, acting hypocritical, and decided to mald in front of everyone. No one hammers there regardless. If they hammer and you flip town after being told not to do so,they get outted scum. This isn't like text mafia where you are attributed to just meming around. People take this thread serious. Therefore, hcokey has much to lose. And you literally say final predications as you were playing like VT. If you are PR, fix your PR play. We are voting you because you deserve / need pressure. Your slot comes from a very CONTROVERSIAL spot.

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631242845 (#2380)

FINAL PREDICTIONS

DKKOBA/HOCKEYFAN/{COWS,WANG} IS YOUR MAFIA TEAM

o7 GODSPEED

u seem town ur probably just are town. im just conflicted with the reads like is there a world where u think hockey + koba are town here?

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631241347 (#2375)

Grandpa and Hockey, do you guys sus Cyclone?

im null all on all of the prs reads.

im down to vote who tf i need to vote.

like idc atp.

either party gets solved either way.

i was teh only pushing for a condemn outside of the three but no one listened to me so i just thought it was useless

Originally Posted by cowsloveSushirolls 1631239517 (#2356)

E-2

this isn't enough pressure.

##Vote xrCyclone

E-1 DON'T HAMMER YET

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631239365 (#2352)

Originally Posted by cowsloveSushirolls 1631239114 (#2348)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631236472 (#2302)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631233090 (#2281)

##Unvote Grandpa

ok i think im done. im starting to scumlean u. i just townread u because asll my townreads at that time had townread u and im like ok "ig they were playing diff than last game" but lets look -- last game was a $%#!show for the scum team that i caused by accident im sorry nate.

so lets not use that game as a good meta read.

i think you can be scum for trying to push a miscondemn on me, then u unvote because you see the wagon died down so u dont have a chance anymore to push me any longer.

i think you gave up. and now going for one of the big two wagons.

you did the same thing as scum last game (ik i just said not to look at it but words does not equal actions) where your eod was bad and u got caught scum for it by cyc

haha i actually like this post
a lot

you aren't obvtowning like last game its gonna take more than posts like this for you this game

especially since they are scumreading nate who i have as my top town

nate shouldntbe ur top town -- someone like cape or one of the other quiet slots.

nate has no reason to be townread more than they have to be scumread

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631237124 (#2317)

eh

I think the correct play is to systematically murder the entire group of players refusing to vote Cyclone after he flips scum and then if it's a town loss after that we explain to them nicely that you can't play like this as town and expect to win

i think u should start looking at chain lims for this group of players. because it will be hard to persuade a group of playerbase who is so used to fast approach and quick changes to game nature.

setting up a future is probably for town's best interast atp.

if you are town - u just go with your push till like 1 day and if u still have no luck, u go with the consensus and start looking at that majortiy vote.

if that person being voted flips town, who does that make scum and vice versa.

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631237135 (#2318)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631237098 (#2315)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631237059 (#2313)

its weird how im defending grandpa while pushing hockey
RC is defending grandpa while pushing me
and grandpa townreads hockey and doesn't know who to push

its almost like i have no incentive for townreading grandpa outside of a genuine read/vote partnership :spin:

i voted hockey i still am. i stopped townreading them a while ago if u aint read

i did catch that because you are voting them and that's my mistake, outdated reads

just thought the little triangle formation is kinda interesting and its wild that RC doesn't realize how pairings tie into the game of mafia for some reason

yea its just a $%#! show. i just want to get this day over with honestly. everyone has everybody on edge and i feel like just wants to say out loud. that they want to condemn anyone atp to get a flip going

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631237059 (#2313)

its weird how im defending grandpa while pushing hockey
RC is defending grandpa while pushing me
and grandpa townreads hockey and doesn't know who to push

its almost like i have no incentive for townreading grandpa outside of a genuine read/vote partnership :spin:

i voted hockey i still am. i stopped townreading them a while ago if u aint read

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631236930 (#2309)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631236821 (#2307)

have you actually read his posts? It's not even mechanic, people just have him townbinned and for good reason.

He plays strongly as scum and I'm aware of that but this is nothing like that. He isn't intentionally dodging anything, he's being genuine and unabashedly playing his own game with no other angles

you should be pushing Hockey grandpa. Partnerships dictate you are hard aligned against each other, whether you are ready to admit that or not.

he isn't playing as good because he hasn't receieved any pressure.

i just need someone to pressure this guy and thats why i intend to do -- we still have 2 days more than enough time to evaulate this slot.

but ight ill believe u for now ig lets see this reaction

analyzing this more cyc -- everything they have done is all in their scumrange fwiw

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631235969 (#2296)

Originally Posted by Cape90 1631231064 (#2258)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631226764 (#2231)

@Cape90 @cowsloveSushirolls

Who do you want to actually see voted today?

Eh, probably just Grandpa.

Cyclone might not be a bad choice but I don't trust RC as they literally have hardly been looking outside their POE except on like, a few instances.

I don't feel like getting Wang/camel right now.

Hockeyfan is obviously a bad vote if T3 says so.

I am at work rn, but working tomorrow too but off Saturday.

im the worst vote out today imo.

u kept saying i could be town or stuff. just be more confident in ur reads man. if u scumread, go aherad and vote me. if u townread me go ahead and explain my town.

why i think im the worst vote out of today?

i flip town, which i will, what info will that give? we just go back to the circle of hockey / koba / cyclone /

i flip scum, which i wont, you look back at interactions and realize who scumread me and townread me but still find that poe of hockey / koba / cyclone /

im just saying its not a good vote especailly considering everyone is literally willing to vote hockey / koba / cyc as like the three main prepatiors after all the $%#! show started and my wagon / push has died down so scum probably stopped pushing for me.

did u read this @RC

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631236883 (#2308)

Originally Posted by Cape90 1631231064 (#2258)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631226764 (#2231)

@Cape90 @cowsloveSushirolls

Who do you want to actually see voted today?

Eh, probably just Grandpa.

Cyclone might not be a bad choice but I don't trust RC as they literally have hardly been looking outside their POE except on like, a few instances.

I don't feel like getting Wang/camel right now.

Hockeyfan is obviously a bad vote if T3 says so.

I am at work rn, but working tomorrow too but off Saturday.

so what happens when grandpa flips town and I die

LOL I LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT RC we melding

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631236821 (#2307)

have you actually read his posts? It's not even mechanic, people just have him townbinned and for good reason.

He plays strongly as scum and I'm aware of that but this is nothing like that. He isn't intentionally dodging anything, he's being genuine and unabashedly playing his own game with no other angles

you should be pushing Hockey grandpa. Partnerships dictate you are hard aligned against each other, whether you are ready to admit that or not.

he isn't playing as good because he hasn't receieved any pressure.

i just need someone to pressure this guy and thats why i intend to do -- we still have 2 days more than enough time to evaulate this slot.

but ight ill believe u for now ig lets see this reaction

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631236566 (#2304)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631236472 (#2302)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631233090 (#2281)

##Unvote Grandpa

ok i think im done. im starting to scumlean u. i just townread u because asll my townreads at that time had townread u and im like ok "ig they were playing diff than last game" but lets look -- last game was a $%#!show for the scum team that i caused by accident im sorry nate.

so lets not use that game as a good meta read.

i think you can be scum for trying to push a miscondemn on me, then u unvote because you see the wagon died down so u dont have a chance anymore to push me any longer.

i think you gave up. and now going for one of the big two wagons.

you did the same thing as scum last game (ik i just said not to look at it but words does not equal actions) where your eod was bad and u got caught scum for it by cyc

nate is borderline confirmed town grandpa WORK WITH ME HERE

did i miss sum important i porbably have catch me up

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631236566 (#2304)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631236472 (#2302)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631233090 (#2281)

##Unvote Grandpa

ok i think im done. im starting to scumlean u. i just townread u because asll my townreads at that time had townread u and im like ok "ig they were playing diff than last game" but lets look -- last game was a $%#!show for the scum team that i caused by accident im sorry nate.

so lets not use that game as a good meta read.

i think you can be scum for trying to push a miscondemn on me, then u unvote because you see the wagon died down so u dont have a chance anymore to push me any longer.

i think you gave up. and now going for one of the big two wagons.

you did the same thing as scum last game (ik i just said not to look at it but words does not equal actions) where your eod was bad and u got caught scum for it by cyc

nate is borderline confirmed town grandpa WORK WITH ME HERE

waiut how

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631236309 (#2301)

not to be rude but i get the sense that there's nobody in this game that would let grandpa act like this as scum

cyc look at my rcent post

do u agree with the eod thing?

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631233090 (#2281)

##Unvote Grandpa

ok i think im done. im starting to scumlean u. i just townread u because asll my townreads at that time had townread u and im like ok "ig they were playing diff than last game" but lets look -- last game was a $%#!show for the scum team that i caused by accident im sorry nate.

so lets not use that game as a good meta read.

i think you can be scum for trying to push a miscondemn on me, then u unvote because you see the wagon died down so u dont have a chance anymore to push me any longer.

i think you gave up. and now going for one of the big two wagons.

you did the same thing as scum last game (ik i just said not to look at it but words does not equal actions) where your eod was bad and u got caught scum for it by cyc

Originally Posted by cowsloveSushirolls 1631234234 (#2292)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631231824 (#2269)

I actually read through mohttps://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopi...5266#p12749930 (Micro 1009 that Grandpa linked earlier)

feel super weird now
why make a large post describing your town meta here in thread, then link a game that specifically destroys every single point of it
and then play differently from the game you've linked

i know that i played a game with him in MS that was a month later than the game he linked. i think it's super transparent that at least in the earlygame, he's been playing more subdued this game than
here


so he's playing with his cards hidden unlike the game i played with him, but he's playing just as unorthodox as the micro?
many questions

thats why i told cape to look at different games -- to grasp a more better view. there isn't a gonna be a real read. stop using meta to read my allignment. use waht has been given to you by this game. everyone has literally pushed me. u either think im getting bussed here or u think im town being miscondemned by scum (early on)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631233523 (#2285)

I'm JOAT.

One-Shot Loyal Cop
One-Shot Gated Doctor
One-Shot Weak Vigilante

can u just stop meming around. u literally have not contributed anything -- and only had me as scum and read me as scum because of what other people have said.

u have openwofled multiple times and just kept meming around till this point. its not funny anymore, just seriously stop and read the game.

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631233908 (#2290)

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631232008 (#2272)

No, its not a slip, I wanted to make sure T3s wasnt bsing with this claim(and maybe get him to slip). Also, why would I ask what a gated doctor is in THREAD when i could just ask my scum partners in scum PT. Idt scum does this.

Wait I'm thinking this through more. How exactly would T3 be BSing if he used the word gated before you ever did and did it totally spontaneously? He used the word before you revealed it was in your PM or even mentioned the word. So how exactly is it a reaction test to ask what the word means? If T3 used the word before you even speak into existence it is your role doesn't that already imply he knows what the word means?

Your second point is actually well taken. I'm not sure why you would ask in the general chat as scum.

this convo litearlly started because of me bringing up the discussion. so give me $%#!ing credit at least holy $%#!. like i hate when ppl are just blindsided and never looking at different perspectivies. everyone is so closed in there own circle and the person who i did wanna scumread is the only one was probably looking at different perspecitives (cows) lol.

t3 did in fact use the word before hockey why do u think i questioned hockey -_-

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631233697 (#2287)

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631233268 (#2283)

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631151276 (#1898)

Town is really letting out here Gpa lurk. Again, I repeat, we dont vote any of the pr claims(me/cyclone/koba/t3). T3's on crack rn, and I still dont think our roles can co-exist but I will believe him for now. Idk where the trs on gpa are coming from

If T3 literally knew the word gated was in the role PM then why did you say that you still don't think your roles can coexist?

Also T3 why can't there be a gated mafia doctor and a gated town doctor or how do you not know that mafia doesn't have some knowledge of your role? Don't you find it weird that hockey apparently used the question what is gated btw as a reaction test but then you never answered the question and then he just believed you were town?

because 2 gated doctors in a setup is weird, and AT THE TIME of the claim, i didnt believe it, but based on t3's actions later down the line hes either actually gated doc and our roles do exist or B. a vt. In both cases, He is town.

so u still agree me but still find me scum..

can we like post a counter for all the times hockey has agreeed / sheeped my reads / reasonings in this thread?

and still decides to call me scum.

Originally Posted by Cape90 1631231064 (#2258)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631226764 (#2231)

@Cape90 @cowsloveSushirolls

Who do you want to actually see voted today?

Eh, probably just Grandpa.

Cyclone might not be a bad choice but I don't trust RC as they literally have hardly been looking outside their POE except on like, a few instances.

I don't feel like getting Wang/camel right now.

Hockeyfan is obviously a bad vote if T3 says so.

I am at work rn, but working tomorrow too but off Saturday.

im the worst vote out today imo.

u kept saying i could be town or stuff. just be more confident in ur reads man. if u scumread, go aherad and vote me. if u townread me go ahead and explain my town.

why i think im the worst vote out of today?

i flip town, which i will, what info will that give? we just go back to the circle of hockey / koba / cyclone /

i flip scum, which i wont, you look back at interactions and realize who scumread me and townread me but still find that poe of hockey / koba / cyclone /

im just saying its not a good vote especailly considering everyone is literally willing to vote hockey / koba / cyc as like the three main prepatiors after all the $%#! show started and my wagon / push has died down so scum probably stopped pushing for me.

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631226043 (#2222)

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1631199098 (#2132)

Commuter is just *way too strong* and makes more sense as a scum role if exists based on what i know

I actually agree that commuter is an objectively scummy claim. But then why claim it if you are scum? Maybe because cyclone is so confident he can get two MLs as mafia then will flame out - that's the only explanation I can think of. It's not totally unbelievable.

dsidnt they retract

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631225993 (#2221)

Gated = You have to pass a "Gate" for it to function.

The "Gate" in this case is simply the person being Vanilla. Unless my understanding of roles is horribly far off-base.

Almost any modifier that affects functionality would be a "Gate."

ik that but im saying it in hockey's context. they said they were the 2 gated docs. i believe you can be gated and simple but not simple and gated. like do u understand? will his role flip simple or gated on death if the real doc? im just tryna understand if he like messed up somewhere

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631225900 (#2217)

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631225670 (#2211)

simple is a form of a "gated" doc no?

Correct

like there is a diff in the beginning claiming simple doc and then just claiming gated doc and hiding ur identity.

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631225900 (#2217)

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631225670 (#2211)

simple is a form of a "gated" doc no?

Correct

its not gated tho lol

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631225738 (#2213)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631225583 (#2208)

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631224629 (#2196)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631224268 (#2189)

This game just got REALLY interesting.

Hockey is confirmed scum now, and I think town wins this game 9/10 times.

cyc why are u strartingto play like me lol

i think we vote hockey here.

[vote]Hockeyfan123[/vote]

im done contemplating with this BS. if we are right, hooray!, if we are wrong, just the get the doc CC.

Let's just move on. Hockey should be votint t3 right now no?

Im not voting t3 because according to him(idk how belivable this is), but apparently out 2 doctor roles CAN co-exist so ftr im not taking his claim as a "direct cc" and besides I tr him so i dont vote him(unfortunatley u cant say the same about your votes). Like really, you do realize you're voting someone u TR right?

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631224629 (#2196)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631224268 (#2189)

This game just got REALLY interesting.

Hockey is confirmed scum now, and I think town wins this game 9/10 times.

cyc why are u strartingto play like me lol

i think we vote hockey here.

[vote]Hockeyfan123[/vote]

im done contemplating with this BS. if we are right, hooray!, if we are wrong, just the get the doc CC.

Let's just move on. Hockey should be votint t3 right now no?

Im not voting t3 because according to him(idk how belivable this is), but apparently out 2 doctor roles CAN co-exist so ftr im not taking his claim as a "direct cc" and besides I tr him so i dont vote him(unfortunatley u cant say the same about your votes). Like really, you do realize you're voting someone u TR right?

no. i will explain why there is no two docs in this specific setup.

and i will explain why exactly -- you are just trying to make yourself look good here at this point.

you claim you are simple doc and they claim gated doc. cyc is pr claim and koba is supposedly other pr claim.

4 prs claims implies 6 vts + 3 maf which is not to uncommon

simple doc basically means if you target a maf to save then the action will fail implying you can only save town people. this implies there is a role that can shoot mafia during the night OR a role that can supervise mafia's roleblock. which is not common. the more common option is just vigi option at night.

t3 is gated doc which implies they have a modifier -- they are not willing to share so its probably [redacted] im not gonna say but i think i know what it is.

if we assume there is 2 docs claims + backup role (which doesn't have to apply to anything) + 1 pr

i am more likely to believe something like 1 weak doc + 1 backup joat + 1 strong pr (something like joat) + 2 weak mafia PRs 1 strong PR.

this is probely not the setup but just an example of 1 swingy pr 1 weak pr and 1 strong pr

in a world of 4 having simp doc is weird. the other doc could just go on the other target. u have to realize u claimed simple so u cant save mafia people

No the thing is, one of cyclone/koba's claim is fake, I agree with u that 4 prs of this caliber cant co-exist, but I think mine/t3's can

koba is claiming backup. meaning there is either just koba as a backup modifier to sway the game or backup + real role. (yes u can have backup without the role). if its backup + role then thats 2 prs and then one of u have to be fake if u believe a world of 3.

if u are believeing a world of 3 that means you believe that koba does NOT have a role associated with the backup role

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631225670 (#2211)

simple is a form of a "gated" doc no?

no..?

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631225614 (#2209)

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631225473 (#2206)

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631188182 (#2110)

Also bruhmoments, ftr I still dont know why you want to vote between PR claims, because at least from my pov, Ik im town, I /think/ T3 is town? and one of cyclone/koba are mafia(ofc you think they're TvT, so idk why you're so opposed to voting someone out of that pool). Its not even like u TR grandpa or anything so like ??

I don't really know that koba v cyclone is TvT, I'm just having trouble completely scum casing either of them to a point I would want to vote as of this moment.

What made you change your mind about T3? Can you explain the moment you changed your mind to me?

Ok Im pretty sure t3 is town because i dont think theres a world where scum!t3 claims a pr similar to mine, and then proceed to say "HOCKEY IS TOWN" and "OUR ROLES CAN COEXIST"(which i now know 2 gated docs can exist which is intresting)

u claimed simple. where did u claim gated what?

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631224629 (#2196)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631224268 (#2189)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631156384 (#1981)

I didn't know Backups can exist for roles that arent in the game.

If I am wrong about Koba then I severely $%#!ed up but Hockey is just never town here.

I still doubt it? But I admit my reactions have been kind of sub-par.

I'm taking a step back here from the game. I believe that it was w/w, and it still is, but I may be wrong. HockeyFan is still mafia.

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631150082 (#1841)

This game just got REALLY interesting.

Hockey is confirmed scum now, and I think town wins this game 9/10 times.

cyc why are u strartingto play like me lol

i think we vote hockey here.

[vote]Hockeyfan123[/vote]

im done contemplating with this BS. if we are right, hooray!, if we are wrong, just the get the doc CC.

Let's just move on. Hockey should be votint t3 right now no?

Im not voting t3 because according to him(idk how belivable this is), but apparently out 2 doctor roles CAN co-exist so ftr im not taking his claim as a "direct cc" and besides I tr him so i dont vote him(unfortunatley u cant say the same about your votes). Like really, you do realize you're voting someone u TR right?

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631224629 (#2196)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631224268 (#2189)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631156384 (#1981)

I didn't know Backups can exist for roles that arent in the game.

If I am wrong about Koba then I severely $%#!ed up but Hockey is just never town here.

I still doubt it? But I admit my reactions have been kind of sub-par.

I'm taking a step back here from the game. I believe that it was w/w, and it still is, but I may be wrong. HockeyFan is still mafia.

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631150082 (#1841)

This game just got REALLY interesting.

Hockey is confirmed scum now, and I think town wins this game 9/10 times.

cyc why are u strartingto play like me lol

i think we vote hockey here.

[vote]Hockeyfan123[/vote]

im done contemplating with this BS. if we are right, hooray!, if we are wrong, just the get the doc CC.

Let's just move on. Hockey should be votint t3 right now no?

Im not voting t3 because according to him(idk how belivable this is), but apparently out 2 doctor roles CAN co-exist so ftr im not taking his claim as a "direct cc" and besides I tr him so i dont vote him(unfortunatley u cant say the same about your votes). Like really, you do realize you're voting someone u TR right?

no. i will explain why there is no two docs in this specific setup.

and i will explain why exactly -- you are just trying to make yourself look good here at this point.

you claim you are simple doc and they claim gated doc. cyc is pr claim and koba is supposedly other pr claim.

4 prs claims implies 6 vts + 3 maf which is not to uncommon

simple doc basically means if you target a maf to save then the action will fail implying you can only save town people. this implies there is a role that can shoot mafia during the night OR a role that can supervise mafia's roleblock. which is not common. the more common option is just vigi option at night.

t3 is gated doc which implies they have a modifier -- they are not willing to share so its probably [redacted] im not gonna say but i think i know what it is.

if we assume there is 2 docs claims + backup role (which doesn't have to apply to anything) + 1 pr

i am more likely to believe something like 1 weak doc + 1 backup joat + 1 strong pr (something like joat) + 2 weak mafia PRs 1 strong PR.

this is probely not the setup but just an example of 1 swingy pr 1 weak pr and 1 strong pr

in a world of 4 having simp doc is weird. the other doc could just go on the other target. u have to realize u claimed simple so u cant save mafia people

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631220036 (#2179)

Wang you're the third scum right

i htink wang is starting to scumside as scum ofa miscondemn. they probably are.

cyc is just bad town atp.

and koba is the good looking pr.

their allignments get solved by tmr. cyc is trying to game and koba is as well.

t3 dies during the night if hockey flips red > then we reveal info on day 2.

like i said we only win this if we get scum out day 1.

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631220800 (#2183)

I can't believe we're about to go from the setup has 2 doctors to the setup has zero doctors in the span of a day. Literally shaking and crying rn

what does this mean? tmi?

im so confused this game. multiple claims going all over the place.

i think we lose this game if we dont hit scum out day 1.

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1631216106 (#2167)

If you actually recieved a commuter role pm youd know that

didnt they retract

##Vote hockeyfan

Originally Posted by wangalang 1631223475 (#2187)

Originally Posted by Cape90 1631220467 (#2181)

Originally Posted by wangalang 1631219710 (#2178)

i agree with cyclone re pairing people

figuring out of two people are the same alignment is pretty pivotal to solving mafia

why would we vote cyclone over hockey btw? like AGAIN if the people that claim to be more knowledgable of forum setups say there could be doctors i will accept it and move on but i just find it hard to accept

especially because hockey seems scummy in the first few pages (being PR does sort of explain that i guess)

i believe that voting grandpa is the best condemn today and i'll sum up why:
- Nate is voting them, and is pretty confident about it, and Nate is in everyone's towncore (not necessarily mine, I'm aware of Nate's capabilities, but different worlds have Nate as town)
- Grandpa's demeanour doesn't seem towny he seems too serious this game, i know it's a serious game but me and dino both made jokes that went over his head yano
- not voting a PR claim
- this flip tells us information about cyclone's alignment

1. Nate is in everyone's towncore! That means I must go with Nate even though I do not believe Nate is towncore.
2. Grandpa is too serious... Okay? The random mention of Dino is quite random.
3. We are not voting hockey off because the literal other doctor is telling NOT to kill the other doc claim. You seem oddly like, back and forth I guess in saying that oh hockey was pretty scummy in early game, but them being PR explains it. Do you think hockey is mafia or not?

i'm always voting hockey over cyclone today

i do not believe this setup has two doctors that's inane hockey probably claimed to bait tbh

sure i don't play much closed but two protectives is crazy

ok so how does my flip prove that cyclone is town or scum

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631156384 (#1981)

I didn't know Backups can exist for roles that arent in the game.

If I am wrong about Koba then I severely $%#!ed up but Hockey is just never town here.

I still doubt it? But I admit my reactions have been kind of sub-par.

I'm taking a step back here from the game. I believe that it was w/w, and it still is, but I may be wrong. HockeyFan is still mafia.

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631150082 (#1841)

This game just got REALLY interesting.

Hockey is confirmed scum now, and I think town wins this game 9/10 times.

cyc why are u strartingto play like me lol

i think we vote hockey here.

[vote]Hockeyfan123[/vote]

im done contemplating with this BS. if we are right, hooray!, if we are wrong, just the get the doc CC.

Let's just move on. Hockey should be votint t3 right now no?

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631146674 (#1760)

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631146554 (#1758)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631140038 (#1475)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631139340 (#1460)

this is honestly annoying. stop townreading people because they townread u! MAYBE u could get away with it in voice mafia since the interactions are different. but forum is different with longer day phases meaning reads change depending if scum wants to bus or pocket or whatever. game nature changes as well. i hope u realize that wang

WAIT THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT POST

can we not glaze over this

this is never a post a mafia makes to a partner

so if hockey is blue then wang is never with grandpa

and if hockey is red then that makes slightly more likely by comparison for it to be wangalang

:0000

In real time this just seemed kinda out there and cooky. In a scummy way. I think cyclone SRing wang's slot here is just not townie. I think this reaction just seemed forced.

The game seemed mostly town controlled at least EARLY. Now it doesn't- that was back when Koba/Hockey weren't posting as much and Wang's slot was AFK. So yeah, it was by correlation. it was hardly a hard scumread, or anyone I'd even dream of voting today.

but question cyc, if it was scum controlled. we vote u > u flip town > we vote koba / hockey tmr we get 1 scum out no?

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631146485 (#1752)

Alright so:

@Cape90, @cowsloveSushirolls, @six pomegranate seeds

I want to bring the power back to the people.

Roundtable conference.

Let's say RC is town: He's more town than Cyclone, and Cyclone makes sense as a vote.

Let's say RC is mafia: He's attempting to flood the thread to prevent us from getting useful information from the rest of the lobby and trying to force errors by us condemning people without a proper discussion. This means, most likely, 1 deepwolf exists in the rest of the lobby. My bet goes towards cows if this is the case btw.

In either world, I think this means it follows to vote Cyclone -> Vote RC if it's town. Thoughts?

"flood the thread" is literally the only excuse u have people for just post a lot in defense. i post a defense, in ur words is flooding the thread. do u ever read posts between interations? not a rhaterical question justgeninue

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631146405 (#1750)

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631146283 (#1744)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631146180 (#1740)

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631145994 (#1737)

Actually you know what sure I'll take it

vote in me and Cyclone today, I don't mind getting lynched so I can get out of this game because it's zero fun playing with people who have no idea what they're doing and insist on overriding stuff that I say that is fact rather than opinion

I am formally requesting that you take your head out of your $%#! and think.

Your wild tone whiplash from fakeclaiming guilties on backup claims to pretending to be uber pro-town player saying cringe $%#! like this is noted and is also not a townie perspective

I mean cyclone you asked for this, don't be careful what you wish for me

I also am not claiming to be an uber pro-town player? Or anyone who's good? You have that inside your own head, lol.

im still confused what role u are. u just keep hiding it or sum $%#!

Originally Posted by cowsloveSushirolls 1631146304 (#1745)

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631146201 (#1741)

There are 3 people who have claimed PR thus far this game, if you allow anyone to claim PR and never be elimmed why wouldn't you just claim PR every game as scum and even as $%#!ing VT because it serves to your teams advantage

like it's an incredibly narrow minded way to approach the game, especially when 1/3 of the PRs never gives any more info and another 1/3 only gives info if the non-backup dies and they can quickly be shot anyway

no one should be afraid of voting PRs, no one should expect PRs to do the lion's share of the work

profound
##Vote xrCyclone

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631145239 (#1719)

Anyone else remember the part where Grandpa threw Hockey, his townread who is also claiming Doctor, to E-1, then straight dipped the thread completely? I sure do.

i'm not even sure what i witnessed

i dont know either lol im just still contemplating my bad town play

Originally Posted by six pomegranate seeds 1631146090 (#1738)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631139340 (#1460)

Originally Posted by wangalang 1631138577 (#1451)

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631138258 (#1448)

I won't vote you dw

ok RC is town

this is honestly annoying. stop townreading people because they townread u! MAYBE u could get away with it in voice mafia since the interactions are different. but forum is different with longer day phases meaning reads change depending if scum wants to bus or pocket or whatever. game nature changes as well. i hope u realize that wang

Grandpa is correct here wang. Forum gets pretty crazy compared to mafia.gg in my limited experience. My first gut read of GPA's comment was that it was townie. But I get annoyed at things that people say if I consider them incorrect even if I am mafia. So never mind probably.

I'm probably in a similar place on my read of GPA as Cape was in 1459. He's not really coming across as town, but can his reads being out there be a townie thing? I have him in my vote POE as of now.

who do u think is scum like who do u want to shoot

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631143921 (#1651)

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1631143770 (#1641)

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631143697 (#1635)

Originally Posted by DkKoba 1631143649 (#1629)

how have i hardclaimed my role btw
unless you have some sort of extra information you'd like to share with the class

i'm backup of your role and im gonna take it tonight - based on the informed info you claimed earlier yeehaw

You are Cyclone, the informed ____.
There are no backups roles present in this game.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we got em.

im so confused. that specific message makes no sense. didnt u claim earlier that u there was a backup? or sum

Originally Posted by hockeyfan 1631143560 (#1622)

Holy $%#!, why am I at e-1. Grandpa, why are you letting cyclone sway you lol. You just said u thought all 3 of us were town like ???. Also, me sring you is not me personally attacking you, calm down

lol "why are you letting cyclone sway you" i $%#!ing townread you mate and you scumread me. where else am i going to vote ??? am i just gonna vote u???? holy $%#! read the game hockeyt

cyc have u hard claimed?

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631143472 (#1612)

Originally Posted by MeteorNate 1631143417 (#1609)

@six pomegranate seeds @xrCyclone DO NOT LET THIS HAMMER

Why?

You wouldn't lynch Cyclone if he claimed scum in thread

You have no leverage over bim

i think we just shoot hockey > cyc.

let me play with more.

##Unvote

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631143408 (#1608)

Well

I don't care to try to keep convincing you you're wrong

You've decided that you're going to simp for your friends so there's not much for me to keep saying

i was simping for u this whole game lol

Originally Posted by shellyc 1631143342 (#1601)

PAGETOP

BRO 2 times u lucky this on MU

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631143270 (#1597)

Originally Posted by Cape90 1631143196 (#1595)

Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells 1631142586 (#1567)

Originally Posted by Cape90 1631142515 (#1561)

with how hard Cyclone is getting mad at literally everyone, I do not think they are actually scum here

Should I quote the post he made about not townreading aggression

it's like

it's not the aggression.

it's how the aggression.

idk how to explain it.

I feel like they would either take it farther as mafia or restrain themselves more as mafia. I don't know

its irritance, caps lock doesnt equal anger it equals WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE OBVIOUS

you do not have to blindly listen to me

to realize the obvious

GRANDPA

HOCKEY IS PUSHING AN ML ON YOU, THAT IS THE NATURE OF HIS CLAIM

YOU ARE ATTACKING THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS HERE TO HELP YOU RIGHT NOW

##Vote hockeyfan

Originally Posted by xrCyclone 1631143206 (#1596)

Originally Posted by Grandpa 1631143059 (#1591)

i think cyc is scum. if im condemned today. get cyc today. i decided that im probably not get a maj on all my scum. i provided a reason on why i townread hockey and koba.

ther is possibly mafia in the afks.

i still dont know why hockey is scumreading me, like i would just be scumreading hockey here if i was scum becuase cyc put scum as wang koba and hockey as scum.
lol and keeps pushing hockey.

so k

I AM ON YOUR SIDE GRANDPA HOLY $%#! WHAT ARE YOU DOING

thats why i townread u

im so conflicted.

one scum is playing me.

its because hockey scumreads me for no reason, and i was tryna see how hockey reads me while scumreading u .

and either that.

i honestly at first just thought hockey, cyc, and koba are all town lol.

i think cyc is scum. if im condemned today. get cyc today. i decided that im probably not get a maj on all my scum. i provided a reason on why i townread hockey and koba.

ther is possibly mafia in the afks.

i still dont know why hockey is scumreading me, like i would just be scumreading hockey here if i was scum becuase cyc put scum as wang koba and hockey as scum.
lol and keeps pushing hockey.

so k