au revoir
Type: Posts; User: RadiantCowbells
au revoir
cyclone let's be real
I'm VT and my read all game is that you're bleeding TMI as $%#! and that your reads don't make sense
Don't be an RAS or a Cabd, just admit it, resolve to be better, and move on
I like how doc cc and no docs
ya
sorry for scum reading you but if you CC koba there you are never losing the CC
i think you neapolitaning the confirmed non VT is pretty pepega but honestly i think town played pretty well
I'll say 1 thing and that's that i knew Wang was third scum at the end, cape counterclaims DkKoba and this game becomes very simple
gg everyone
Like let's split Cape's recent posting into three blocks of quotes.
This first section happens while HockeyFan still seems like a likely elim and Cyclone hasn't gotten traction yet. In response to Cyclone attempting to finish running HockeyFan down, Cape votes him despite calling him town literally all game. He shades Koba at the same time.
The other doc claim literally is against voting hockey.
I just I feel like I will never hear the END of it if you flip mafia.
I will never hear the END of it if you flip town.
There is just no end except the endThen, traction is gotten on eliming Cyclone. Cyclone is resigned to being the elim.
Then they stop pressuring Cyclone now that it seems like an inevitability, and start setting up for a future DkKoba elim and make a show of being pro-town not supporting the wagon but not aiming to do anything to prevent it either.
Now the situation has changed: the wagon is mostly going through because of me and I have rescinded my support for it. Grandpa is also clearly not happening, it has no support, me and you are discussing how much we dislike HockeyFan which is also Cyclone's favorite wagon so the only real alternative at this point is in fact Cyclone, and they whiplash from virtue signalling about how much they don't want to elim Cyclone to trying to get another invitation onto the wagon.
time to lolcat to f7
that's your case glgl
##Vote HockeyFan
you can't read Cape's ISO and say in a million years that they should be willing to vote Cyclone, and them saying that it's to appease me is just resigning fascism.
If you've ever heard the phrase LAMIST, that's how I'd describe Cape. They took all the towny looking positions until things got dangerous and then they show their true colors as a stinking furry wolf.
The simple answer is that there is no town narrative which aligns with their progression.
The complicated answer is that scums approach to Dk Cyclone (and fairly common in games in general) this game was to wash their hands of the result. Cape threw vague shade at both parties and didn't really side and hinted at possible TvT but didn't commit to the read. The reason that I excluded the GPA lynch is that it seemed like the designated scum miselim that they felt like they wouldn't have taken too much flak for and keeps Dk/Cyclone feud for another day. Cape was, without being willing to openly call Hockey's posts town, hard defending them. You can see that throughout their progression they've been willing to vote the counterwagon to Hockey all day, except when it was Cyclone. What I attempted to test was whether the people unwilling to vote Cyclone would stick to that conviction if the only other wagon was HockeyFan. Cape just chainsaw voted Cyclone for trying to finish off hockeyfan, then when the elim seemed secured they backpedalled and started shading Koba. This is all fine so far: a townie can frustration vote but really be more sure that Koba is scum. What makes them outed is that when I withdrew from Cyclone and it was no longer a Foredestined Conclusion that town is elimed today, they whiplashed super $%#!ing hard. Based on all their chat they think that the best lim in the game is Grandpa, but they unvoted Grandpa in the same post that they said they were scummy and immediately tried to get Cyclone back on the rails in 2456.
2520 claims twice, in two different sets of words, that it was to make me stop, but I had literally just stopped and withdrawn my support for the wagon. Cape self describes their tone as 'bitter'; that isn't something a town says there. That's scum describing the image that they are trying to project. They post a bunch of random $%#! until
again: I have withdrawn my support for the Cyclone wagon. They are still not only trying to push Cyclone, a wagon that they have expressed disdain for, a wagon that their top scumread in Grandpa is voting, but they are trying to pin the responsibility on me. Let me restate that: they are trying to blame me for an elim that they only voted after I retracted my vote on it.
This is pretty much exactly what I look for in reaction tests like this; Cape is making towny looking moves when they feel like they can get away with it but when I withdraw the free miselim they suddenly start being willing to vote Cyclone. No town in existence has this progression, I'm sorry, but scum who sees their meal ticket take away absolutely tries to get that $%#! back into gear.
Also I've talked about how they're trying to make me take responsibility for the Cyclone miselim; let's also look at the way they talk about HockeyFan. It's always because of someone else that they aren't willing to vote HockeyFan. They cite T3 as the reason Hockeyfan is a terrible elim a few times, etc.
this isn't a town post in any universe
i dunno mang
if you don't see it you don't see it but cape is literally outed scum
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gonna
I'm just
I mean
cCS is pretty bad
regardless of my pretender TR I'd be fine if he got limmed before the game ends
Is this a town power role
I'll add something on that topic
I openly dislike cCS but I don't think that outweighs pretender townread
Alright I'll do my big post then I'll lolcat til f7
rektI'm never going to resolve to be more like you even if you were right about everything you say this game lol.
this is forum mafia
people have all the time in the world to try to recreate their thought processes as town
in real time it's usually pretty easy to catch people based on who they vote and such but you need more than that in this format
scum are only incentivized to derail from thought processes they'd have as town in specific situations
do you think I care about your reads if I'm scum when nearly the entire game is townreading me or do you think I'm town who is irritated that your reads are diametrically opposed to mineYou're really mad that I put you in my POE. I didn't even specifically SR you or scum case you. Really strange look, why is it so important to you to be in the town block? If you are really town you can be persuasive no matter your current status in the town. It actually sometimes is advantageous to be out of the town core because you can see how genuinely people are trying to read you and make reads based off of that.
That's interesting now you think Koba/Cyclone is TvT. I'm not totally certain on that specific claim within your town core. And I think that Cows is town leaning but not a lock town as well.
Agree that Nate/T3/Pretender are pretty townie.
As to what you would do as scum or not scum I have no knowledge of that and am not going to take you at your word.
You just come across as very angry that I have stopped putting you in the TRs and it's not a good look.
Ok step 1
brag a lot about how good you are
let's start practicing now leggo
And you have 0 wr there so
Also I'm $%#!ing lazy so
the only way I'm W is if I am w/w with cyclone
sure if you don't NK me
I don't follow the game I build it
When I play scum I've already figured out exactly who my miselims are by mid way through D1This is partly addressed to both you and cyclone #2988.
You can't just claim individual credit for suspecting hockey - a number of people independently sussed hockey at various points and both of you trying to premptively claim credit when he can still flip town just looks scummy lol.
And RC saying "if I was going to bus I would have just bussed" I really don't think expresses how any strong mafia in forum plays. As mafia you would constantly re evaluate the landscape and see what you think you can get away with and what is optimal. Making the decision to bus is a constantly evolving situation that is context dependent. A mafia just making a binary decision "yes, now I bus for rest of game" and playing blindly towards that goal is basically throwing. So you're "if I was going to bus I would have just bussed" doesn't really mean anything to me. I think that you as a scum could do many different things in this situation and I'm not going to listen to your many self proclamations that you are out of your scum range.
The fact that you are saying these things at all when hockey can still very well flip town at this point is just weird as well.
That being said, my thoughts as a town are quite fluid and I will revisit my reads over night phase and during d2 to see what I think with the knowledge of hockey's flip - which could change a lot.
that's what sets me apart and lets me win massive % of scum games that other people can't
listen
after this game I want you to just resolve to be more like me
I'll tell you what
if you guys don't NK me I'll lolcat until at least 7p
How's that
a joke
do you think this is $%#!ing funny
DO YOU THINK I AM $%#!ING LAUGHING RIGHT NOW
who the $%#! do you think you are
what gives you the right to ping me
I said don't @ me you $%#!head
Because he's mafia simple doc and there's a vig don't @ me
No hammerino
both are probably town tho I'll be honest
Ex D
bruhdont be fooledthis is the $%#!ing thing with wang she acts towny and then she gets all cutesy and 9/10 times she does that as MAFIA like holy $%#!
she went back to a cape post to say something to it to like i don’t get it
after today we have one more chance to push wang before they pocket us all with their "towny" behaviour
its then or never
guys stop tring wang this is literally a trap i swear
Xd
I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding what I'm saying if you don't see it. I'll give it a do-overI completely understand this thought process and would normally agree, however he is agreeing with me after I've been fighting for a solid 500 posts so it's hard for me to do a 180 and scumread them for it.That's not what I mean.
Scum rarely take positions that are diametrically opposed to what they would take as town, even moderately competent scum should be taking positions you agree with a lot of the time.
Their EoD today is as confirmed scum as any red check
From your perspective of Koba town then I can see where you are coming from and the thought process to get there using this but FMPOV it doesn't really mark him scummy
I don't think he's setting out to agree with you
I think I need to explain it with more detail in terms of what I was looking for from the wagon on you
I dislike reads based on agreement and I think it's a very common trap to fall into. People who have original, against the grain takes tend to get elimed because townies don't like their takes. This is especially true when they're the only people scumreading mafia, often townies will miselim them on Mafia's behalf. I don't think that townreading people for agreeing is as much of a problem but I do think it's rather silly.
That's not what I mean.I’ve been the most disagreeable person this game so agreeing with me isn’t exactly a road to group consensus he’s aiming for"Agree on things" is an invalid reason to townread anyone and I've felt strongly on this for a very long time. You don't find scum by them taking disagreeable stances.cape’s line of logic is extremely similar to last game’s and he’s a strong mafia but we agree on enough things i mark him town
I do not understand the lock town on Koba/Cows though, I understand cows since fypov maybe it makes sense but my Koba case is hella old and still holds up
Scum rarely take positions that are diametrically opposed to what they would take as town, even moderately competent scum should be taking positions you agree with a lot of the time.
Their EoD today is as confirmed scum as any red check
"Agree on things" is an invalid reason to townread anyone and I've felt strongly on this for a very long time. You don't find scum by them taking disagreeable stances.cape’s line of logic is extremely similar to last game’s and he’s a strong mafia but we agree on enough things i mark him town
I do not understand the lock town on Koba/Cows though, I understand cows since fypov maybe it makes sense but my Koba case is hella old and still holds up
good policy
No me
Like I'll meta Koba on the super off chance that they're actually like an A tier scum player and I'm underestimating them, I owe Cyclone's read that much, but Cows isn't scum and nor am I and locktowning Cape is absurd
I had to fight my $%#! off to get to the game to a point where Cyclone is elimable
I don't put in all that work as scum and not elim
You should pull your head out of wherever you stuck it
I know this isn't the most pressing thing to respond to and I'm never getting elimed but it's tilting when everyone's scumpools suck and I'm in some of them so I don't have the benefit of speaking from the townblock to say no your reads suck
There is 0 scum in RC Nate Cows Cyclone Koba T3 Pretender and you can take that to the bank
Slamming a vote on a scum
Why does Cyclone get insta locktown for saying the word reaction test with no real accompanying reaction test but when I actually execute one and give specific reads for it you think that it's more scummy that I elected to not elim cyclone rather than less?
Originally Posted by RadiantCowbells
