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  1. Day 1#24

    Thread: Lime's Light Matrix 13er #2

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    Completed What do you mean "casually delivering" P#9 and...

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy (#21)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#9)
    Oh my god, a town rand.
    I would normally call this post so scummy, lol.
    Slight ping? fixation on appearance is alarming
    I actually think that post is towny. Vandys first post felt a bit off to me since I’ve seen him rand scum so many times in a row now, especially in some very tough games so I was expecting some more noticeable excitement when he finally randed town. But I feel like the self awareness he had in p#12 like I said earlier felt towny in the way he went about casually delivering that line. Overall I think Vandy is most likely leaning town based off his entrance posts
    What do you mean "casually delivering"

    P#9 and P#12 have 3 minutes between them, denoting that vandy probably spent a bit of time thinking over the effect P#9 had
  2. Day 1#23

    Thread: Lime's Light Matrix 13er #2

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    Completed This is the 22nd post of the game, and we're in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#19)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#17)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#9)
    Oh my god, a town rand.
    I would normally call this post so scummy, lol.
    Slight ping? fixation on appearance is alarming
    do you really equate

    slight ping with

    alarming?
    This is the 22nd post of the game, and we're in d1

    The fixation is alarming but it doesn't define vandy's alignment and it is rather obvious the overall read is not strong
  3. Day 1#17

    Thread: Lime's Light Matrix 13er #2

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    Completed Slight ping? fixation on appearance is alarming

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#12)
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandyfan402 (#9)
    Oh my god, a town rand.
    I would normally call this post so scummy, lol.
    Slight ping? fixation on appearance is alarming
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    Completed Cape90 Let’s duel.

    ##Vote Cape90

    Let’s duel.
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    Completed FIRST

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    /in

  7. #104

    Thread: Hydra Event 2021!

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    Sticky: /in with Cape90 (mafia.gg), name is tbd

    /in with @Cape90 (mafia.gg), name is tbd
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    Completed rip, gg town we tailored him, as in made him...

    rip, gg town

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#7368)
    was Scyther converted?
    we tailored him, as in made him false flip red
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    /out

  10. /out

  11. /in

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    Good news, schedule has (mostly) cleared up so...

    Good news, schedule has (mostly) cleared up so I'll be able to play

    /in
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    /sub

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    Completed I’m on the verge of falling asleep on my feet rn...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#5987)
    @shellyc

    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...Multiball-19er

    Recent Hydregion town game.

    Hydregion is town.
    I’m on the verge of falling asleep on my feet rn and it’s nearly 2am but single game meta is useless
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    Completed stormslyde kinda :/ on you gravestoning me...

    @stormslyde kinda :/ on you gravestoning me because it's rather likely to be town/town/town but if the majority of people are consensus on that being the "second tier" of the PoE, sure
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    Completed I feel so stupid rn because I actually thought...

    I feel so stupid rn because I actually thought Hydre's D1 contained content

    I have never seen such a contentless 200 post ISO in my life

    That being said

    ##Vote Hydreigon25

    I'm sold and I trust you to direct town to launch here
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    Completed I think tessepia knows that they can't endgame so...

    I think tessepia knows that they can't endgame so giving up ground (voting Lag) when town has tabled GG is a bit ??
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    Completed I won't be here at EoD unless I sacrifice my...

    I won't be here at EoD unless I sacrifice my sleep so f

    Let me read Hydre's D1 again
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    Completed Rn we have GG: Jackofhearts2005 (25), Lag...

    Rn we have

    GG: Jackofhearts2005 (25), Lag (72), Wesmaster160 (48), Ominoire (62), Luxy (20)
    Lag: TripleHaven (5), Hydreigon25 (32), Garden Gnome (25), tessepia (15), shellyc (80)

    If Lag flips scum it makes me feel better on tessepia and GG which significantly narrows the PoE to a point which scum can't ever win
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    Completed I think the confirmation that Lag didn't rolecop...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#5968)
    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#5967)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5963)
    Somehow I used a double negative, I mean I think its pointless

    What do you think is townie af from Lag?
    I think their defense of themself was very townie. Like idk how to put this into words best but their sheer obstinance that the Grant CFD lock-cleared them probably doesn't come from a wolf who has TMI that they were bussing. Lag was borderline self-righteous about how the CFD and then swapping back to igno made them always town. And I think it's really hard for a wolf to replicate this if they just bussed on 2 wagons
    there's other little reasons such as:

    claim is weak and easily verifiable
    I copied them last night and got no feedback


    but those aren't substantial. I think Lag is still in PoE, I just don't see why we'd ever eject them prior to Hydre. If we want to vig them at night it's probably a reasonable idea
    I think the confirmation that Lag didn't rolecop is slightly redeeming tbh?

    I'm kinda equally scumreading Lag/Hydre rn so I'm going with the higher information launch, it's not solely an infokill or whatever you said
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    Completed hmmm? I don't get how this is especially...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#5967)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5963)
    Somehow I used a double negative, I mean I think its pointless

    What do you think is townie af from Lag?
    I think their defense of themself was very townie. Like idk how to put this into words best but their sheer obstinance that the Grant CFD lock-cleared them probably doesn't come from a wolf who has TMI that they were bussing. Lag was borderline self-righteous about how the CFD and then swapping back to igno made them always town. And I think it's really hard for a wolf to replicate this if they just bussed on 2 wagons
    hmmm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#4552)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#4551)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#4549)
    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#4547)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#4545)
    How do you explain me + Schweppes + GQ all voting to accelerate the Grant CFD?
    what do you mean? you voted them yes. I'm struggling to understand why you think that makes you lock-clear when their was already a major wolf wagon that you got off of to join this one
    Here's the line of thought, let me know where the disconnect is:

    - It is very likely that the Grant CFD at EoD was not motivated by wolves. Igno left a vote on Grant for spew reasons, which backfired.
    - The vote order was: Cape, Schweppes, Me, Insaner, Omni, GQ, CRichard, Dolby
    - Schweppes, Me, and GQ coordinated in our neighborhood to push the Grant CFD

    Grant flipping was much worse for the wolves than Igno just flipping

    If TH is town, then TH flipping would have been better than either of them flipping

    What wolf coordinates a CFD onto Grant like that when the best scenario is TH flip (assuming TH is town)
    second best scenario is igno flip, and worst scenario is Grant flip?

    As of #3857, TH was in the lead with 7 votes and Igno had 6.

    I then flipped to Igno putting Igno in the lead at 7 with TH at 6.

    Tess voted TH to bring it back to 7 to 7

    And then the Grant CFD started.

    If I were a wolf, why would I help coordinate that CFD rather than going back to TH to make the TH wagon 8 to 6 on Igno?
    Actually even more, after Cape voted, I could have switched to TH to make the vote 8 for TH and 5 for Igno
    If GG is Town and I am wolf, why did I not take Wes's offer to join the GG CFD either?
    It reached 5 votes before the Grant CFD started and was looking very viable.
    I don't get how this is especially self-righteous?

    It's just defending yourself 101, I'm not really seeing it
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    Completed requoting, I need an answer here to pivot to...

    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5963)
    What do you think is townie af from Lag?
    requoting, I need an answer here to pivot to hydre once and for all
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    Completed I think it's nigh impossible that Lag/GG/Hydre is...

    I think it's nigh impossible that Lag/GG/Hydre is town/town/town so nuking all of them through town kp + the launch gives us the win basically.

    if that doesn't win us the game outright then we re-eval in TH/storm/luxy(mechanical $%#!y with scythkill?) but idt I'll be voting any of them today or tmr
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    Completed Somehow I used a double negative, I mean I think...

    Somehow I used a double negative, I mean I think its pointless

    What do you think is townie af from Lag?
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    Completed I don't think voting Hydre if we don't have at...

    I don't think voting Hydre if we don't have at least 5 people committed there is pointless because flipping one of Lag/GG gives more information on the rest of the PoE
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    Completed Do we have enough votes for Hydregion? I've...

    Quote Originally Posted by Biohaz (#5956)
    Anyone around? Would like to discuss things, particularly with storm/shelly/venti

    ##Vote Hydreigon25
    Do we have enough votes for Hydregion?

    I've said this before and I want that slot more because they have no townpingy things at all

    I like your readslist quite a lot, it's generally where I'm at
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    Completed mechanically *likely to be townie* if you like it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#5951)
    Are you really mechanically confirming someone in a bastard game?
    mechanically *likely to be townie* if you like it that way
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    Completed The feeling that the game is solved also kinda...

    The feeling that the game is solved also kinda cut my motivation. It's like the PoE's been presented in front of us, everyone else is probably town, and if we clear the PoE it will probably be game over due to occams

    and whatever I say won't actually make much of a difference because it's not like I disagree with the PoE in general
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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#5948)
    Shelly’s push onto Lag seems like it is sprung from her not liking Lag’s reaction to DkKoba.

    Yeah, it does
    I would also like to point out that Shelly seems to heavily scum read Luxy and hasn’t really pushed Luxy today.

    Did you forget that Luxy is mechanically confirmed town

    In addition Shelly had such a powerful start to the game with a lot of medium effort posts, but I haven’t really seen that many from her as of late.

    Work is a thing

    Shelly also town read lag, and seemed to want to vote Garden yesterday.

    Re-evaluation is a thing too

    I am doing an analysis of Shelly’s interactions and her ISO so hopefully I will have it done within ~2 hours.

    If you continue to assume guilty until innocent I will be extremely frustrated
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    Completed > shellyc scumleans Lag on D3 due to PoE >...

    > shellyc scumleans Lag on D3 due to PoE
    > shellyc likes Lag's efforty reaction to my tentative SR on D2
    > Dolby and Phraze flip town and shellyc thinks GG is likely town
    > shellyc slowly starts re-evaluating and reads Lag's ISO
    > shellyc realises that D1 of Lag was hella performative
    > shellyc doesn't like Lag's wagonomics that much
    > shellyc doesn't like Lag's reaction to Koba
    > shellyc thinks about Lag's alignment overall
    > shellyc thinks Lag is just scum and votes them, with Hydregion (also probscum) not going over today
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    Completed Venti hmmmMMMMMMmmmmmMMMMMM

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti (#5945)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5944)
    ##Vote Lag

    People who want to launch GG despite townreading them are also ???
    Haha, Shelly made a big error. I’ll post my ISO of Shelly/Giklle soon but this vote runs directly counter to her logic.
    @Venti

    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5694)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#5674)
    Retrospective Day 3 Votecount as of Post #5226

    Post #5226 was originally posted at 7:00 PM EDT on Tuesday, September 28th, 2021.

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    6 Dolby Lag (108), Luxy (33), stormslyde (67), Ominoire (117), Wesmaster160 (134), Cape90 (93)
    5 Phraze Garden Gnome (69), TripleHaven (44), tessepia (39), Biohaz (69), Dolby (35)
    3 Garden Gnome Jackofhearts2005 (67), shellyc (93), Dedenne (88)
    1 stormslyde Phraze (30)
    2 Not voting Hydreigon25 (21), Venti (93)

    View Vote History

    Requested by Venti.
    But like, no way in hell Dolby wagon is a clean one right

    ominoire/wes/cape are all locktowned, luxy is cleared off mech, and storm's rxn was towny

    that leaves lag
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5886)
    Idm being gravestoned to be confirmed

    storm/venti is kinda obvious town/town.

    Still wanna nuke hydre because there's really nothing that lends a lot of towncred there compared to Lag/GG but aorn I prefer Lag > GG
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5887)
    I don't like Lag's reaction to Koba's push at all
    hmmmMMMMMMmmmmmMMMMMM

    Yes my lag vote *totally runs against my logic* doesn't it?
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    Completed Lag People who want to launch GG despite...

    ##Vote Lag

    People who want to launch GG despite townreading them are also ???
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    Completed Uhhh what the $%#! are you doing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#5942)
    Vote by Proxy

    Quote Originally Posted by Venti
    ##Vote shellyc
    It is now 9:16:55 AM EDT on Friday, October 1st, 2021. There are 1633129260000 remaining.
    Uhhh what the $%#! are you doing
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    Completed confirmable = confirms align in my book, I think...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5915)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5911)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5910)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5906)
    Classic "I AM NOT PAIRED" defense :eyes:

    I'll need to check the plausibility of Lag/GG being doublescum wagons but this game feels really boring if we had s/s wagons for three days lmao
    Classic attempt to discredit a valid defen]se.

    Wolves have somewhere between 2-4 people left. With the entire PoE voting me, they're obviously getting no towncred from bussing here. Meaning either my teammates are like exactly storm + cape?

    Or you think there are some deepwolves that managed to get themselves mech towncleared like Omi + Wes or Luxy or bio
    It's super awkward to push on GG instead because their role is somewhat confirmable.

    Wrt GG: Grant also had a hyperactivity thing, Mafia Poisoner is busted with that, factional kill+2poisons is mega overkill

    Mafia have no choice but to bus you here, if you are scum
    My role is literally hard confirmable rather than somewhat confirmable, what even is this post?
    confirmable = confirms align in my book, I think you thought of it as "confirms power"

    stopping someone for voting for one day does not lend a town!you case, it just means that your claim is truthful as either align.
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    Completed Hydregion does

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5912)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5909)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5908)
    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#5904)
    shelly isn't PoE lmao unless u got a wacko PoE
    #5665

    PoE

    And literally all the bottom slots in the PoE except storm are pushing me now
    No $%#!ing way Venti is PoE
    And who else belongs in that spot then? Hm?
    Hydregion does
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    Completed If you are town here please sell me on GG because...

    If you are town here please sell me on GG because I'm really not seeing it rn
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    Completed It's super awkward to push on GG instead because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5910)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5906)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5900)
    Also now with Shelly joining in on the push, does anyone else think it's weird that literally the entire PoE sans storm is pushing me now?

    Like if I'm wolf, who tf are my teammates here?
    Classic "I AM NOT PAIRED" defense :eyes:

    I'll need to check the plausibility of Lag/GG being doublescum wagons but this game feels really boring if we had s/s wagons for three days lmao
    Classic attempt to discredit a valid defen]se.

    Wolves have somewhere between 2-4 people left. With the entire PoE voting me, they're obviously getting no towncred from bussing here. Meaning either my teammates are like exactly storm + cape?

    Or you think there are some deepwolves that managed to get themselves mech towncleared like Omi + Wes or Luxy or bio
    It's super awkward to push on GG instead because their role is somewhat confirmable.

    Wrt GG: Grant also had a hyperactivity thing, Mafia Poisoner is busted with that, factional kill+2poisons is mega overkill

    Mafia have no choice but to bus you here, if you are scum
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    Completed No $%#!ing way Venti is PoE

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5908)
    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#5904)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5900)
    Also now with Shelly joining in on the push, does anyone else think it's weird that literally the entire PoE sans storm is pushing me now?

    Like if I'm wolf, who tf are my teammates here?
    shelly isn't PoE lmao unless u got a wacko PoE
    #5665

    PoE

    And literally all the bottom slots in the PoE except storm are pushing me now
    No $%#!ing way Venti is PoE
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    Completed I'm also not really pushing Lag because their ISO...

    I'm also not really pushing Lag because their ISO has redeeming posts once in a while

    Hydregion launch is overdue tho
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    Completed Classic "I AM NOT PAIRED" defense :eyes: I'll...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#5900)
    Also now with Shelly joining in on the push, does anyone else think it's weird that literally the entire PoE sans storm is pushing me now?

    Like if I'm wolf, who tf are my teammates here?
    Classic "I AM NOT PAIRED" defense :eyes:

    I'll need to check the plausibility of Lag/GG being doublescum wagons but this game feels really boring if we had s/s wagons for three days lmao
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    Completed Uh I think my phone autocorrected Lag to Luxy ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#5903)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#5902)
    Quote Originally Posted by shellyc (#5867)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#5832)
    Obviously not Wesmaster160
    Not Shelly
    Not Lag
    Not Venti
    I thought TH got confirmed somewhere but I forget
    Prolly not Biohaz
    Prolly not you
    Prolly not tessepia
    Prolly not Ominoire

    Leaving me with Luxy/storm/Garden Gnome
    Why is Luxy town?

    tessepia is just town, I’m inclined to trust in Schweppes + they were gunning after Ignorascum and TH town
    This implies that I think Luxy is POE
    If you meant the other way around.

    IDK they have been pretty town to me tbh.

    But I was possibly thinking they post more as town?

    Plus their catch up posts from earlier look exactly like the type of thing I saw scum in the games that I have played twice before
    Uh I think my phone autocorrected Lag to Luxy

    Why is Lag town
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    Completed Hydre voting Lag is making me hesitate a bit ...

    Hydre voting Lag is making me hesitate a bit

    Otherwise Lag's ISO was even more performative than I thought

    It's like they're floating about instead of pushing
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    Completed Townposting tho? Lag why did you scumread Wes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#3826)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#3820)
    CFDDDDDDD ON GG LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    @Travis
    @Dedenne
    @tessepia
    @ignoramus
    @stormslyde
    @Dolby
    @Luxy
    @shellyc
    This list is terrible
    Townposting tho?

    @Lag why did you scumread Wes on D1?
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    Completed Can anyone tell me how these are townposts from...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2694)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#2692)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2689)
    I probably have the most OP ability in the game
    dont care + ur prob scum
    u need 2 lrn 2 chill
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2725)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#2711)
    actually nvm i read lag's iso and its super ugly so to the perma-poe u go
    rood
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2743)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#2719)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#2714)
    Lag has a mega towny ISO
    its literally like chock full of IIoA and their reads lists sucks $%#! when compared to the flips + my current reads independent of the list + their tone is performative as hell.
    Mind educating me on what your reads list is then so I can see where we disagree
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2752)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#2746)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lag (#2743)
    Quote Originally Posted by DkKoba (#2719)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cape90 (#2714)
    Lag has a mega towny ISO
    its literally like chock full of IIoA and their reads lists sucks $%#! when compared to the flips + my current reads independent of the list + their tone is performative as hell.
    Mind educating me on what your reads list is then so I can see where we disagree
    nah. i dont do reads list + i dont even plan on outting one until i get my way with killing 3p.
    I don't like your playstyle
    Can anyone tell me how these are townposts from Lag because these reactions are really wack
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    Completed "People who have really out there reads, stick...

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#5892)
    I spent the later half of it pushing wagons off v/v schweppes TH, and I pushed Scyther, probably the best wolf on the team (regardless of rand) heavily, and etc
    "People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the generally established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people largely disagree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town." -certain reputed mafia player
    It's why tessepia is almost always town here based on EoD2 alone
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    Completed Idk if Cape90 can confirm that my scumstyle...

    Idk if @Cape90 can confirm that my scumstyle includes heavy discrediting of LHFs but if I am scum here defending all the plausible MLs that I can get and waffling so hard on the PoE of GG/Lag and voting Hydre doesn't make sense
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    Completed @Everyone who wanted tessepia this is literally...

    Quote Originally Posted by tessepia (#3538)
    Tbh the only thing I care about is that my posts are probably good enough at this point I'm going to die tonight. I don't care to direct people rn so I'm waiting for death
    @Everyone who wanted tessepia this is literally townspew when considering that TH was topwagon at the time
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    Completed "Volumeclearing" Hydregion also doesn't make a...

    "Volumeclearing" Hydregion also doesn't make a shred of sense when their content after I repped into this game is basically zero.
    People seem to have hard ignored them because ??

    Looks like nobody will actually launch that slot tho so I'll continue my ISO on Lag
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    Completed I don't like Lag's reaction to Koba's push at all

    I don't like Lag's reaction to Koba's push at all
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    Completed Idm being gravestoned to be confirmed ...

    Idm being gravestoned to be confirmed

    storm/venti is kinda obvious town/town.

    Still wanna nuke hydre because there's really nothing that lends a lot of towncred there compared to Lag/GG but aorn I prefer Lag > GG
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