LMAOOO whyy, it's true!
Type: Posts; User: alexa
LMAOOO whyy, it's true!
yeahhhh, because of how the past EM set-ups i hosted had played out (specifically Cats PR madness - with all the meta etc) i slightly scumsided the setup so there wasn't a lot of room for that big of an error. TBF i think the way it played out was ~fine but if happy had lived it would've been super scum-sided, i'd definitely modify that role on a re-do
KP was ~similar on both sides. Town had Slank Vig + Anne's Vig + Vengeful + Lover. Maf had Happy's 1.5 + 1X Factional Anti-Claim + Creature's Conditional 1X Vig
yeah great job at the end there! Creature had figured out mechanically that T-34 was the last one so was freaking out in his private chat hoping he and Alice could just hammer
Scum Chat:
https://discord.gg/ATvzBUTQWg
If you're okay letting me open your DR in the Server (https://discord.gg/fcgpn2cmsC), let me know
There's no way for town to stop night kill, mafia wins. GG maf. Scary play there Alice
The KP was high this game because I wanted it to end by 8/8, but I didn't promise balance
night 3 deaths
Duskfall is dead. He was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are dkkoba, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
Rule Enforcer: Twice per game at night, send a player a “rule” that they have to follow (within reason) related to posting. The player will be notified that they have to adhere to this rule the next day or they'll receive a consequence. If they break this rule, they will be roleblocked and you will receive an additional roleblock to use the next night.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
neopest is dead. She was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are pony, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
YA'LL THEY'RE MAFIA, I’M CERTAIN: You tend to have strong feelings about players you suspect - which, often times, are quite accurate! Once per game at night, you may choose to kill a player. If this kill is not successful, you may try once more.
OMG GUYS HEAR ME OUT: You can post 3 vocaroos per day, NO LIMIT in length.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
Night 3 will end tomorrow (8/6) at 9 AM EDT. Please submit your actions by tomorrow at 8 AM EDT.
@a07netfriend
@BlueKang
@Creature
@Duskfall
@krista
@NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
@neopest
@T-34
Twice Shrunk is also dead! He was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are duffer, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
Two is Better Than One: Once per game at night, you may select a player and open up a chat with them. This chat will remain open until the end of the game or until one or both of you die. Your fate will be tied to this person - if they die, you will as well, and vice versa.
Twice as Good: If the player you targeted with your first action has a role with limited shots, one of their shots will be restored.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
night 2 deaths
aphelios is dead! They were:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are bluekang, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
I Protect My Townreads: Twice per game at night, you may protect one of the players you vocalized a townread on the day before - submit the post in which you townread them.
I Will Seek Vengeance For Her: Once per game at night, submit the name of a player. Should anyone visit that player with a killing action during the night, that person will die as well (if it’s more than one, this death will be randomized). If the player gets eliminated the next day and is a villager, you may kill someone on their wagon.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
Gira is dead! He was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are nightmarex, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
CHAOS: Once per game at night, target a player - anyone who visited this player will be announced publicly.
Amrock Personation Activated: Once per game during the day, you may choose to imitate another player in the game: you must submit the name of the player you choose to roleplay as to the host. If you keep this up for the day, you will be immune to elimination the next day. This will not take effect in LYLO.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
Ominoire is dead! He was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are sonrio, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
SPF is Mafia Guys I Swear: You are aware that the role with the SPF flavor is mafia. You may not share this information.
DOES MAF HAVE A CHAT?: You are aware that a member of the mafia exists who does not share a chat with the other members. Each night, you may visit a player and discover if they are the lost wolf.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
Note: Please remember you can not vocally speculate flavor. All speculation should be internal/via DR. Speculation in public will result in a warning or mod kill.
@a07netfriend
@aphelios
@BlueKang
@Creature
@Duskfall
@Gira
@krista
@Macdougall
@NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
@neopest
@Ominoire
@T-34
@Twice Shrunk
Night 2 will end 8/5 at 9 AM EDT. Please submit your night actions by 8 AM EDT tomorrow.
Gira visited MacDougall!
HEAR YE HEAR YE - neopest is a wolf
* neopest starts the game saying Gira's role isn't real, then votes Gira, then says if the role is real, "it could theoretically be town" but she's still voting Gira.
- This kind of feels like it's an attempt to get more out of Gira, like, more of a claim
* 226 reads like Anne talking to her partner, Happy
-Cause Happy is asking a question that is just purely to have interactions with neopest for "distance" "what were you hoping to achieve" is just a very generic thing, and this is the only time we have neopest and Happy talking to each other
* 256 neopest talks about Krista's posts having a "stiffness to them" but only says it's something "to ponder" instead of actually committing to a read there
* 272 is where Pony says neopest "sounds a lot different" and neopest says "That's intentional"
- Now, from what I'm remembering this is the point where Anne started changing how she was playing, pretty majorly, like this is where Anne went from "Taking Charge" to just kind of existing and not really doing anything
* 436 feels like neopest knows Duskfall is town, and is using the fact krista has a wrong read there for an easy push, because this is like neopest's first real push of the game, and neopest specifically saying
"I don’t scumread you for not thinking Happy is townie, I only said that could be one possible explanation for why you would discredit someone’s scumread on him."
- neopest has yet to actually voice her read on Happy, but 436 implies she thinks happy is town, but there is no point in this game before this that she has indicated she thought he was town
* 455 neopest says "Pony has pushed me since she came into the thread, around the same time as Krista so I don’t get Happy’s point" but she isn't actually doing anything about it, like she says she doesn't understand Happy's point, yet is making no effort to have Happy clarify it, it was just a general statement being made, and the was no follow up, meaning she didn't actually care that she "didn't understand Happy's point"
* 533 is the neopest vocaroo, and now that Happy has flipped scum, we see that the scum team has definitely compared notes, and knows no one is going to have their role solely be vocaroos, I just listened to the vocaroo, and neopest speaks in this "I KNOW it's not Pony's only part of the role" and it almost feels like neopest is trying to have her claim more, listening to this after the Happy flip, it does not sound as towny as it initially did
* 559 feels like neopest has unlimited vocaroos, just like Happy did
* 572 then claims there's limits to the vocaroos
- I don't think 559 and 572 alone are majorly significant, but they're interesting for sure, largely just cause neopest doesn't talk about much but it feels like she has put more thought into discussing vocaroos in general than her actual reads on anyone here
* 588 feels like neopest is scum that misinterpreted what Ominoire was saying in 581
* 955 is probably why neopest was saying both Sonrio and Happy are scum at eod1, but then the sneaky and nefarious stuff feels like it's role related, but what's interesting to note though, she was calling Sonrio sneaky and nefarious, however, she wanted to vote him out at the end of the day, so that tells us "sneaky and nefarious is not role related at all" and was probably part of her fake claim she was setting up, but then didn't realize that's the person she wanted to vote out at the end of the day.
* 1692 - aphelios wagon started taking off, and Sonrio (the wagon neopest was voting) was the 2nd wagon, but than neopest changes directions and goes for krista, after saying how Sonrio was a wolf for a while, votes krista and says nothing
* 1693 - calls a07 lock town for no reason, and doesn't care to help anyone else see a07 as lock town
* 1803 - calls creature scummy here, but doesn't vote creature till 1970, in that time, the ONLY time neopest talks about/references Creature, is in 1815 to say "this feels like you're not even reading the thread and misrepresenting people's views cause lol" and I really don't believe this is the sole basis for an actual neopest SR
it almost just feels like a simple "this person isn't doing much! free, easy wagon this way!!"
* 2346 - neopest returns to voting Sonrio
before this vote, the happy and sonrio wagons were tied, neopest just votes Sonrio and says nothing more
just calls both happy and sonrio wolves in 2503 but she hasn't given a reason for why either of them are wolves. the only read she had a reason for was her Creature SR, which she quickly abandoned
*** So, in summary, this was my attempt at going through neopest's ISO, post by post, and figuring out whether she was town or a wolf here. I don't think there's a single thing I could point to here, that says "neopest is town!" the entire thing just feels non towny, and after the Happy Scumflip, just looking at the interactions of neopest and Happy, I think that just further solidifies the fact neopest is a wolf here.
night 1 deaths
Julia is dead. She was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are julia, a member of the town
"I am a former player of mafia on a site long forgotten. I am here to inform you of the player Julia. I don't know what she goes by here, but if you know any people named Julia and they type like an early 20's women, then that's probably her.
In our now defunct home, Julia was known for her lies and manipulation. So much so, the name Julia because a synonym for an extreme liar. You may think: Well, this is mafia? But you clearly did not think hard enough.
Julia not only lies in-game, she lies in every action she takes. Everything she does is to gain an advantage in the forum mafia game. If she tells you that you are the exception, you are not. You are yet another victim. Let me repeat: Everything she does is to gain an advantage in the forum mafia game. EVERYTHING. She once even flew out Steven Spielberg to her home to record a video proving her internet died, so she could pretend like she afk town, instead of fake afk mafia.
Please, do not trust a word she says. God help you all."
you have the following role(s):
OMGGGG GUYS tHIS IS MY TOWN META: Each night, you may target a player who voted for you the day before at any point. Your target will be informed that you’re actually trustworthy and aligned with the village - however, they will not be allowed to share this explicitly with anyone else or hint at having this mechanical information.
You may not hint at having this role in any way or it will not work.
Astrology Expert: Once per game during the day, send a proposal to the host with some details about an astrology sign and how it fits a player in the game. This proposal will be released publicly and anonymously. You may not hint that it's from you. People will have until the end of the day to vote “AGREE” or “DISAGREE” by DMing the host in private.
If more people vote “AGREE,” you will receive a tracker to use the next night
If more people vote “DISAGREE,” you will be roleblocked the next night
If there’s a tie, nothing will happen.
SUSSSSSS: Twice per game at night, target a player and see if they are able to communicate with anyone in any way outside of the main thread text (separate messages, neighborhoods, mafia chat, etc - if the person is able to submit vocaroos, this will also come out positive).
I’m Laughing So Hard: You are allowed to send 3 vocaroos a day, 60 seconds or less in length.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
Sonrio is dead. He was:
Role PM for EM Themed Mafia 2
hello you are marry, a member of the town
you have the following role(s):
BEST FRIENDSSSSS: Each night, target a player, and add them to your neighborhood.
LOUD AND PROUD: Once per game during the day, target a player and send them a “podcast ticket.” This player will be able to open up a podcast with one other player (a public neighborhood open during the next night phase).
Marry 2.0: At any point in the game, you may choose to break free from your neighborhood and unleash the new, improved version of yourself. Should you do this, your vote weight will increase to 1.5, and you may select someone from your neighborhood to change their vote weight to 0.5.
You when win you eliminate all the Mafia.
lol
/out
according to anne, the mafia kill would also kill the PGO (i checked this a bit on the Wiki and i think it's true)?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Paranoid_Gun_Owner
like they can be targeted by any killing action, but visiting roles like doctor/RBer/etc would not kill them
doesn't this mean mafia can't win because they can't kill the PGOs
unless i guess it's founded on the vig's killing all the PGOs
idk
nvm i figured out the PGO has to die too otherwise idt mafia can win
if someone targets a PGO does the PGO die too or just the person targeting them?
lmao i didn't even look at the setup
it says august 8th in p#2
(though when filled would be better for me so idrc)
the start date is kind of rough but since the night phases are 24 hours i am tentatively /in
oh wait i see now
when is it starting
congrats mafia! also great effort all around, looked like a tough LYLO
rules
1. The Minimum Post Count is 10 and the Maximum Post Count is 150. This will be lifted 90 minutes before EOD.
2. Discord is mandatory for this game. Please refer to the Discord link in sign-ups.
3. All night actions must be submitted at least one hour prior to SOD (submit by 8 AM EDT). You may submit either through your diary on discord or through my DM here. Mafia may submit their actions in the mafia chat. If you do not submit a night action, it will count as taking no action, unless your action is compulsory. Day actions may not be submitted within the last 90 minutes of the day, and must be submitted at least one hour after SOD.
4. You may NOT claim your flavor/person nor may you claim the title of your role. Doing so is strictly forbidden and will result in a warning or mod kill. You may not publicly speculate on anyone else's flavor.
5. You may ask me questions about your own role privately via DM or discord, however, you may not ask about other peoples' roles/the set-up. You may not, under most circumstances, discuss host communication.
6. Vocaroos are not allowed unless your role permits them.
7. You can claim what your role does at your own risk - anti-claim may exist in this set-up.
general information
1. This game has 13 villagers 4 Mafia.
2. This game may not be balanced.
3. Role reveals will be in full. This includes alignment, flavor, and role details.
4. Votes will not be locked during LYLO/MYLO.
5. Mafia factional kills are mandatory and assigned. Should mafia not submit a kill, someone will die at random. All mafia roles are multi-tasking and can proxy actions.
6. Everyone is a power role.
7. There may be both night actions and day actions present in this game
8. In the event of a tie, a player will be eliminated randomly.
9. Majority will be enabled day 2+
10. The host may assist mafia with fake claims.
epicmafia themed mafia 2
Hosted By: @alexa
Start Date: August 2nd
SOD/EOD: 9 AM EDT / 9 PM EDT
Phase Lengths: 36/12
Mechanics: Majority starting day 2
Out of Thread Communication: Only if specified in Role PM.
Post-Cap: 10 minimum, 150 maximum per day. Cap will be lifted 90 minutes before EOD.
Players: 17
Part two of the now yearly tradition of Epicmafia Themed Mafia! This game will feature roles based on prominent figures in forum mafia who originated on EM, but anyone is welcome to play! The role-set will also feature newer additions to forum mafia who weren't active at the time this game happened last year (in addition to new, updated roles for older players who are still active). Flavor priority will be given to EMers who join the game.
Vocaroos are not allowed unless you have a specific role that permits vocaroos. Hydras are not allowed.
The mechanics won't be entirely standard - I won't say bastard, but there can be some bastard-ish elements to roles. There will be no false reports, conversions, or resurrections. An attempt at general balance was made, but the focus was more on flavor creativity.
This game will consist of 4 mafia and 13 town. No 3P. Anyone is welcome to play. If there is less interest, I can amend it to fit a smaller group, but won't go higher.
Oh why did I think this started on 8/1 NVM the rand will be tomorrow night or 8/1, hopefully tomorrow night.
I made the discord though, join when you can:
https://discord.gg/fcgpn2cmsC
Hype!
@Duskfall
@neopest
@BlueKang
@julia
@Object
@Ominoire
@krista
@Happy
@NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
@Creature
@Gira
@a07netfriend
@T-34
@aphelios
@Sonrio
@Macdougall
@Pony
Oh a blitz failed lmaoooo
Wait how did town win that w 2 wolves still left M confused
The current nominations for most improved are great, second/third/etc all
I also think @DoctorZeus is deserving of a Most Improved Player nomination, he was good from the start but it feels like he is constantly striving to improve his own play, especially town play since he's already p elite mafia, in a way a lot of people don't consider (by reflecting on himself each game, etc) and it's very admirable!
Ty
Going to be busy next 2 days so gonna note, sign ups until 7/30 at 5 PM EDT. Game will rand 7/30 at night or 7/31 as follows:
If 13P: 3 Mafia, 10 Town
If 14P: 3 Mafia, 11 Town
If 15P: 3 Mafia, 12 Town
If 16P: 4 Mafia, 12 Town
If 17P: 4 Mafia, 13 Town
Role strength will be tweaked accordingly. Thanks ya'll!
I can run this with minimum 13. So if it doesn't reach 17 that's fine. But it'd be cool to be able to make more roles
note: changed start date to August 2nd upon a request. I am somewhat flexible between august 1st and 3rd
epicmafia themed mafia 2
Hosted By: @alexa
Start Date: August 2nd
SOD/EOD: 9 AM EDT / 9 PM EDT
Phase Lengths: 36/12
Mechanics: Majority starting day 2
Out of Thread Communication: Only if specified in Role PM.
Post-Cap: 10 minimum, 150 maximum per day. Cap will be lifted 90 minutes before EOD.
Players: 17 max
Part two of the now yearly tradition of Epicmafia Themed Mafia! This game will feature roles based on prominent figures in forum mafia who originated on EM, but anyone is welcome to play! The role-set will also feature newer additions to forum mafia who weren't active at the time this game happened last year (in addition to new, updated roles for older players who are still active). Flavor priority will be given to EMers who join the game.
Vocaroos are not allowed unless you have a specific role that permits vocaroos. Hydras are not allowed.
The mechanics won't be entirely standard - I won't say bastard, but there can be some bastard-ish elements to roles. There will be no false reports, conversions, or resurrections. An attempt at general balance was made, but the focus was more on flavor creativity.
This game will consist of 4 mafia and 13 town. No 3P. Anyone is welcome to play. If there is less interest, I can amend it to fit a smaller group, but won't go higher.
SignupsEmpty / N/A
Extra QueueEmpty / N/A
SubsEmpty / N/A
SpectatorsEmpty / N/A
Use:
- /in to join as a player, or to add yourself to the extra queue when the game is full.
- /out to drop out and remove yourself from any list.
- /sub to join as a substitute.
- /spec to join as a spectator.
Game start: August 1st, 2022 at 9:00 AM EDT
seems fun, start date just wouldn't work for me since it's the same as SF2 (which i'm watching but also doing flavor for)
will /sub though
nominating @neopest for Best Scum Player
she has taught me a lot of things and is just Really, Indisputably, Good At Being Mafia
nominating @benneh for Most Enjoyable Player
outside of my immediate friends/friend-group (who i'd prolly be biased toward so), he is probably the singular most enjoyable person on MU (IMO??) legit can not think of a single moment with him (besides our first game but that game is cancelled) that was not enjoyable. he's a really fun/light-hearted/nice player while also being super good - always makes me smile in DVCs too!
that is a case for ITA immunity of any degree being stronger than BPV vest (which i 100% agree with in mashes) but i don't think it's a case for BPV being negative utilityshould probably clarify I'm mostly thinking about cases where wolves are only suspected enough to maybe get shot at a few times rather than full on hunts where everyone tries to ita them and they're effectively just a walking corpse regardless
I feel like the former happens often enough where a wolf still realistically has a chance of clawing out of the poe and loses it purely by virtue of what should've been their own boon, moot point if they get shot at with an extremely high % shot but yeah
The latter is definitely not a negative since it forces village to use other forms of kp and the wolf in question most likely doesn't get out regardless(although I'd argue it's not impossible for edge cases to exist where they have a chance via a very good play but ymmv)
I didn't do any heavy number crunching so maybe more of a negative was jumping the gun, this is mostly based off of personal experience
Could argue I'm a bit biased because I also strongly believe wolves can oftentimes get away with far more than people usually think, especially in excessively chaotic environments like mashes but c'est la vie
generally you can't claw yourself out of a POE if you're dead
okay, i think i'm understand this a bit more yeah. i just didn't think it was any different than what is currently done. generally ITA angeled = miss, BPV vest = hit - so i kinda just view them as fundamentally different roles. if you're giving someone a role that is exactly a 1X BPV, then yeah imo you have to account for the fact that if they are shot and it hits, they're basically outed without a good claim, but that's something IMO to be considered assigning the role, and if you don't want it to be the case, then can make the role design different
they definitely do otherwise players wouldn't shoot at them a billion times????
do shots on someone with 100% ITA immunity not currently process as a MISS?
i was pretty certain they did
wait i think i realized where i may be confused, is this just a general discussion thread?
theoretically it is probably a viable solution yeye thats true
you could set them to 100% ita imm. then rand shots past 2 manually for the remainder of session
seems like it would be easier than fiddling with the settings
you shouldnt have to do too much if theyre picking targets that arent like, super heavy fire
which they should be theoretically?
idk nya
@UnderDynamite i'm kind of confused what getting rid of "HIT, NO EFFECT" would solve when you can just set the person as ITA immune and have the same result (Miss rather than HIT, NO EFFECT)
like fmpov those are just completely different types of roles, but i definitely could be misunderstanding
Originally Posted by katze
