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gg guys

I didn't do much, but it was fun to watch.

Timezone really $%#!ed me over so much so I didn't get a chance to post Day 2 before being killed (shrug).

Originally Posted by BlueKang 1657581777 (#12501)

Originally Posted by Creature 1657581680 (#12473)

Why tf are we wagoning Ratchet?

Alexa read.

He claimed a role where he visits someone, if they get targeted with a killing action they get protected, but if no one visits them he kills them.

Ngl I don't think that role is particularly wolf indicative in and of itself

Originally Posted by Transcend 1657580403 (#12105)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1657580368 (#12097)

Is the Battleground a wolf? why are they just posting copy pastes from somewhere

Making the thread harder to read than it already is

Vig him and find out

Unfortunately I 100% definitely do not have a vig I don't know why you'd ever think that

Is the Battleground a wolf? why are they just posting copy pastes from somewhere

Making the thread harder to read than it already is

Originally Posted by Grug 1657579902 (#11963)

Originally Posted by TripleHaven 1657579761 (#11912)

respond to me with a nutella case in 1 minute or i am banning all nutella voters from the mafia universe website

Grug want save Visorslash since two people dying at EOD

Seconding this purely because he's Australian

Originally Posted by Apocryphal Thaumaturge 1657579642 (#11870)

Can I walk back on my disliking the Nutella voters and become a Nutella voters since it has become obvious to me that I suck at scum reading?

Town post I think

Trying to load the thread be like

I'm gonna be vibereading this entire EoD given the ridiculous amount of posts smh

Originally Posted by Happy 1657543817 (#1164)

The aussies and the em’ers should band together to vote out the fol’ers

What if you're an aussie and a FoLer

Originally Posted by DuckQueen 1657543507 (#1053)

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1657543453 (#1028)

bluekang spitting out reads is like the opposite of him in fol mash lol

Pretty sure that bk spitting out reads makes him town

Depends on whether or not he believes in them

Originally Posted by Arctic 1657542955 (#831)

australian voting bloc controls the game with all 5 of their members

Don't mess with us

Originally Posted by TripleHaven 1657542183 (#542)

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1657542061 (#492)

@Disquieted
@JohnCarter
@ThePretender
@Happy
@bladescape

@ other aussies

we should form an australian voting bloc to control the game

a minority faction who is informed on who their members are...

sounds familiar?

##Vote Visorslash

Chainsawing this

##Vote TripleHaven

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1657542061 (#492)

@Disquieted
@JohnCarter
@ThePretender
@Happy
@bladescape

@ other aussies

we should form an australian voting bloc to control the game

Brisvegas on top

God I love using these forums

[QUOTE=Fleur;6130041]I will ignore all wolf reads on me because I‘m Town.[/QUOTE

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1657541279 (#205)

Originally Posted by Creature 1657541254 (#197)

lol MU is so slow

I wonder if it's because of playerlist size

no that cant be it

Truly insightful commentary right there

This is my first Anni ever on these forums

you should all be honoured

/out

Auto-outted because they didn't confirm in time

/out

Auto-outted because they didn't confirm in time

/in

Entrusted#2331

In

Originally Posted by TripleHaven 1636390246 (#4)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1636370705 (#1)

I may be super dumb but I can't seem to find any information regarding hosting on this site.

Is there a queue? Rules? Reviewing? etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Others have already posted the links to the setup queue and review links, but I'd like to add that if you ever have questions regarding how to run games you can always ask a host and we'll be happy to help out

I've hosted on other sites before, I was more looking at getting one of my old setups onto this site, since I spent a lot of time on it (and its closed so everyone that played it in the past cannot play).

I may be super dumb but I can't seem to find any information regarding hosting on this site.

Is there a queue? Rules? Reviewing? etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Guillotina 1636321702 (#3623)

Originally Posted by Biohaz 1636321561 (#3617)

Originally Posted by Guillotina 1636321506 (#3614)

Originally Posted by Biohaz 1636321350 (#3607)

I mean even with full setup revealed not using the death tailor was still a good choice to push for the win. So just being like "lol scum didn't use a good PR, what a bunch of idiots, this isn't townsided" just feels demeaning

Who said you were a bunch of idiots for it?

I mean you didn't I just interpreted your post from a negative mindset, sorry. Regardless it just felt terrible to get discounted like that especially when I still think it was a good idea even in hindsight

Well, opinions are like assholes, everyone has them lol. Wolf!me would have death tailored. I'm not saying that you played bad, in fact I'm nominating your team for this game, but I believe death tailo would have created far more chaos and allowed you to win easier as the soup kill was not designed as a tool for scum to take advantage.

I was against the death tailor because we used it in Anime World and I thought it would be obvious if we did the exact same thing again.

Originally Posted by Ominoire 1636318963 (#3500)

Apologies for the lack of voting on the day Luxy's wagon went over. I literally couldn't use any of my abilities for my cycle. I broke a rule that day after I posted in the graveyard forum thread, so I was vanilla'd for a cycle as a result.

I apologise too, EoD was like 6am for me and I never wake up that early.

I wasn't expecting to go over at all either

I don't really have a clue about what Venti has been doing today, but I think he's being treated weirdly by most of the thread all game which could suggest he is town.

##Vote Hydreigon25

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure on where to go but I'm hardshielding Bong I think he's town.

I was initially townreading Hydre for making reads early on in the game but that largely seems to have disappeared now. That's an awful look considering the gamestate and I think Hydre is having trouble trying to feel natural at this point in time.

Originally Posted by Duskshimmer 1635477556 (#2954)

Originally Posted by Biohaz 1635453151 (#2912)

Originally Posted by Phraze 1635433704 (#2790)

Dusk locktown. I used Soda's ability on them.

So you bit dusk n2 you're saying and dusk is still alive?

@Duskshimmer can you confirm being vannilized?

Is this a confirmation?

I feel like everyone has given Garden Gnome a free pass this game and they haven't really done anything.

Didn't Phraze claim to have vanillarized Dusk?

Originally Posted by Duskshimmer 1635478406 (#2957)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635471441 (#2945)

I think Martin and Bong are just TvT at this point

I have never seen a wolf make a post regarding the connotations of two different posts lmao

Call me hyper-tunneled.

I think looking at Bong's play holistically over the course of the game, he consistently has a towny drive and confidence in what he's doing.

Although he may have been wrong, he was sure in his reads and wasn't like giving himself an out if he was wrong like a wolf would want to do if he was pushing a towny.

He also hasn't really cared about appearances and gone against thread consensus a few times. I think a wolf would be more self-conscious about their play and try to not stick out like a sore thumb

Originally Posted by Hydreigon25 1635472256 (#2950)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635471963 (#2948)

I think Hydre’s jester read on Venti is bad. Venti is a better player than to just say lynch me to win as a jester I reckon.

Have you even played in any game yet where there is a jester because I have not ever been in one before

Jesters are antifun

I think there are probably 3 wolves within GG/Phraze/Dusk/Hydre?

everyone else I have reasons to townread quite strongly. There’s probably a deep wolf at this point given the games gate though

I think Hydre’s jester read on Venti is bad. Venti is a better player than to just say lynch me to win as a jester I reckon.

Originally Posted by Phraze 1635466297 (#2930)

Originally Posted by MartinGG99 1635450942 (#2897)

@Phraze

How come you think Bong is more likely wolf than Venti?

Bong was voting Venti, and pushing Venti, for a while now. Attempting to push slots without any reason, even spinning false narratives (like with my claim), is wolf.

Bong retracted his wolfread of Venti a while back

Originally Posted by Biohaz 1635453088 (#2911)

I'm gonna be around for a while tonight

I have a pet theory that mafia are flipping without alignment/roles considering the game isn't over already. Maybe one of them has an ability that cleans mafia flips while they're alive?

Who do you propose the cleaned mafia are?

Originally Posted by MartinGG99 1635452140 (#2902)

Well all words have connotation. If you don't know what that is:

An idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to its literal or primary meaning.

I think it might be best if I try to demonstrate 2 different quotes. The top one is the one I wrote. The other one I wrote to demonstrate how connotation can affect how things feel.

Originally Posted by MartinGG99 1635450434 (#2893)

I don't feel strongly about the validity; I didn't have time to check everything they noted (especially since they usually didn't quote relevant posts or whatever when talking about you). What is important to me is to how clear they were (or weren't) making those reasons.

So the reasons could be completely invalid and are by fact incorrect and X did not happen buuuut I would doubt anyone just does that.

I actually don't know how valid their reasoning was; I didn't have time to check everything they noted or said. What's important here is how unclear they were in making those reasons.

The reasons could be completely valid but I would doubt if they're completely valid.

These two quotes say the almost same thing, for the most part:

-I don't know how valid Dusk's reasons are
-I didn't have time to check.
-The clarity of their reasons is important
-Their reasons could be valid

HOWEVER, the connotations of both messages make them completely different from each other. They have a different tone to them that suggests other meanings.

For example, take note that in the first message I use "how clear" but in the second messages I used "how unclear". The words "how unclear" have a more negative connotation than the words "how clear" have.

The first one is more likely to be made when someone is town-reading Dusk.

The second one is more likely to be made when someone is scum-reading Dusk.

I think Martin and Bong are just TvT at this point

I have never seen a wolf make a post regarding the connotations of two different posts lmao

Originally Posted by MartinGG99 1635382694 (#2771)

@Biohaz
@Hydreigon25
@Luxy

What do you think of the above post

I’m leaning B but a third option is the wolves don’t really want to address Venti because of how he is a loose cannon, which also could suggest he’s town.

Originally Posted by MartinGG99 1635379997 (#2764)

@Luxy

Where you at? Like, game-state wise.

Rn I’m still thinking Cape, Bong, Venti and Bio are town.

I was thinking Hydre was town but I feel like he’s been trending downwards with less analysis and more just being present

I disliked your slot initially but your entrance and posting read town to me tbh

Originally Posted by BongWater 1635437791 (#2813)

Originally Posted by Phraze 1635437563 (#2809)

Originally Posted by BongWater 1635437366 (#2808)

Originally Posted by Phraze 1635437324 (#2807)

WTAF. I already claimed my ability like 2 phases ago.

I don’t care.

I intentionally didn’t bring this up because knowing you, if you were town you would’ve brought up the actual discrepancy.

The only thing you can try to accuse me of is that I died as ??? and am still around, something that may or may not be role-related. For you to immediately jump to conclusions means you're attempting to spin a false narrative rather than looking through the facts.

I've already claimed my ability and it was on Dusk.

My dying or whatever isn't part of my role at all. Only thing I notice is that this happened after that tombstone thing.

phraze do you really expect anyone to actually believe you were not roleblocked after saying you would resolve dusk, dusk never claimed to have been vanillized (at least from what I’ve seen) and it’s simply a coincidence that an ability that only makes sense on a mafia, and has appeared on a mafia member in the last game Guillo hosted?

anyways, I’ve made my peace now

we can’t vote out phraze today so I think the smartest move is probably kill dusk today then phraze tomorrow

Does Guillo put the same role in twice though?

Originally Posted by Phraze 1635434205 (#2798)

Biohaz and Luxy haven't posted

I informed the hosts that I’d be busy

Originally Posted by Venti 1635256810 (#2553)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635256744 (#2552)

Originally Posted by Venti 1635256508 (#2551)

Luxy + Jack = lock wolfs

How did you reach this conclusion?

Because you guys had a perspective slip in your theatre

What are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Venti 1635256508 (#2551)

Luxy + Jack = lock wolfs

How did you reach this conclusion?

Originally Posted by Garden Gnome 1635255974 (#2541)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635255287 (#2527)

Travis just not posting today at all isn't a good look, he seems to get online to sneak past the post limit and then vanish again.

Garden Gnome has basically been a Garden Gnome all game (doing nothing)

I'm glad you agree

Wasn't Jack's unvote nowhere near EoD?

##Vote CrimsonFox

Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 1635255682 (#2537)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635255287 (#2527)

Travis just not posting today at all isn't a good look, he seems to get online to sneak past the post limit and then vanish again.

Garden Gnome has basically been a Garden Gnome all game (doing nothing)

I thought Travis's eod was pretty townie at the time but I need to look at it for tmi on Soda since he got cold feet on that wagon quickly.

What Travis is doing here is what I was doing during Anime World FM because I didn't want to get caught with wagonomics then.

I would just jump on and post to get past the post limit and then disappear until the next day.

Originally Posted by Venti 1635255503 (#2533)

Luxy + Dusk + Jack/Ace = scum

Dusk due to no read evaluation and random changing of slots w/o explanation (IIoA)
Luxy due to doing the classic scum tactic of ignoring a person pushing you
Jack/Luxy interaction rn just reeks of w/w. I can’t really tel you why, it’s just there are alarm bells ringing in my head
Ace is a potential wolf for multiple reasons that I explained.

I honestly thought that vote was a joke ngl

Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 1635255487 (#2532)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635255383 (#2530)

Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 1635255294 (#2528)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635255171 (#2524)

Tbh it reads to be a fairly pure wagon. I townread everyone on there to some extent, with Ace being the most likely wolf (though I think he's reasonably townish as well).

The duskshimmer wagon looks reasonably pure as well.

If anything, the BongWater wagon is the worst tbh, if you can call that a wagon.

I think the wagon looks pure too but we should take into consideration that like....most players look pretty townie or are lhf in spite of no wolf flips.

Like, if there are warning bells going off, they should be followed up on even if the players in question look mostly townie at first glance.

Do you see any warning bells from that wagon?

Not particularly. The player I trust least on it is Bio himself. I wanna hear Bio's concerns tho.

I think Bio's case is good though, and tbf he does seem relatively towny to me at least.

Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 1635255294 (#2528)

Originally Posted by Luxy 1635255171 (#2524)

Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 1635255019 (#2522)

Originally Posted by Biohaz 1635253418 (#2512)

Is it bad if my biggest doubt on Crimson wagon is how quick my case got sheeped

@Biohaz

Bad that you have that concern or bad that it's your biggest concern?

Of the people following your Crimson vote, Cape, Ace, Omni and myself, do you suspect any of us are wolves?

Tbh it reads to be a fairly pure wagon. I townread everyone on there to some extent, with Ace being the most likely wolf (though I think he's reasonably townish as well).

The duskshimmer wagon looks reasonably pure as well.

If anything, the BongWater wagon is the worst tbh, if you can call that a wagon.

I think the wagon looks pure too but we should take into consideration that like....most players look pretty townie or are lhf in spite of no wolf flips.

Like, if there are warning bells going off, they should be followed up on even if the players in question look mostly townie at first glance.

Do you see any warning bells from that wagon?

Travis just not posting today at all isn't a good look, he seems to get online to sneak past the post limit and then vanish again.

Garden Gnome has basically been a Garden Gnome all game (doing nothing)

Out of the lowposters I think Phraze is probably most likely to be town now?

That may be a stretch but I think his point that he plays more as a wolf is valid. I looked a previous wolfgame and there appears to be a marked gap here, albeit it definitely isn't clearing.