Town in order of confidence:
I had vague positive feelings about these two slots while reading but not enough of an impression overall
Need to digest the posts on day 2 but I'm watching Die Hard now, bye~
Looking at this again and adjusting:
Really almost begrudgingly have to bump grandpa up for showing at least some sense of trying to read the game here
I'm...kind of meh on the prospect of rose/ciderhead actually being scum, I just can't actually justify them being higher than they are right now? Like great maybe this is the easy game but I feel like it's more likely there's at least 1 or 2 scum posting on the threshold of "just decent enough"
LMAO they put their maf partner twice on this list. Big brain
Never mind I was planning to say that then vote you but I changed my mind bc idk why you're doing this as either alignment
Your n2 claim is logically impossible considering MR visited catbae n2
Ah, $%#!ed it up. I was trying to see if 1). I could get wolfIllwei to slip up, 2). Get joqiza to slip up, and 3). Make sure that joqiza was not some weird $%#! two targeting roll. and 4) FPs for the lols.
Actual tracker, targeted joqiza: joqiza targeted myself and Radishes. I am pretty confidant it means they are a wolf, but I can't really think of a role that targets two players. Bus driver is the only one that comes to mind, and that can go either way, but even if it was, that makes no sense.
I am so lost in the sauce about your claim right now
well, i got about ten pages in and my only real read was that Untitled felt wolfy. then i checked the thread summary and saw he was limmed and flipped vt. so that's how that's going.
unvoting for now. i'm aware this might be mechanically outed mafia, based on 2194, but if it is he's not going anywhere and i'm not comfortable with an inherited vote while i'm still trying to get a grip on the game.
also not to townslip but i have no idea how many mafia there are. if that's known information, that'd be helpful.
this was the only thing joq did in terms of voting
Yeah but then I would've contaminated the regulary discussion/solving process. It's easy for scum to react to mech info. It's harder to make up opinions and change them and place votes and stuff in a free-flowing game they can't predict the course of.
That is not something that makes any sense to me. The normal solving process isn't worth much compared to having a check and reading for spew/buddies.
Do you play a lot of mech heavy games?
Originally Posted by Master Radishes1641335763
Grape sure is acting like it *is* a red check.
Anyway, sleepy time.
this stood out to me while I was reading back just now
I don't believe a lot of catbae's content has been all that hard to fake at least today IMO. I kinda liked their Nipple explanation about the commentary posts they were making and all that but I also have the feeling that that argument is really easy to mafia to make on someone. I feel like me myself is commentating right now. Catbae's beginning is also pretty good and shouldn't be undersold if they are mafia here.
"The assumption I come into a game and immediately start bussing is wild, Lmao" This over here stood out to me in catbae's logs as I feel like it was a sort of performative statement (it comes from P#764). And I kind of get P#1033 over here as I don't think Doki's content has really been "much better" or anything like that.
"Yes, I focused on the person who voted me. Is that weird?" this quote also stood out to me as a bit questionable and it comes from P#1041.
P#1042 feels like a pretty shallow reread on me methinks.
Originally Posted by grapefruit211641416717
Feels resigned despite the pep talk from ydrasse (which is probably not a w/w interaction).
i mean yes i'm resigned but that's not a $%#!ing scumtell
My issues is that Radishes was a player that was going out of there way to defend FPS from Illwei, and clearly feels that throwing chaos grenades is good for the game (it's not. Chaos sniper rounds are better), why can't he be lying or fpsing himself?
I don't know, my mind never goes to assuming things are reaction tests, if that's what he's doing I'd be ridiculously pissed
roleblocker reaction test would be stupid as hell anyway given that there's exactly one player it would have worked on and the other mafia would know they didn't submit the kill and could react genuinely anyway
I wouldn't think based on what MR has been saying that it was a reaction test. Usually I find those backed up with littler reason then what MR has provided in terms of why they used their night action on you. However, I think I see where this RT thought comes from because MR did not immediately claim this night action usage and did wait for the whole Illwei counterclaiming Nippleman thing to die down.
u wont get any luck in tryna meta read me. im always diff every game.
We got some pro players in this game.
I can vouch for Grandpa, I literally looked at some town games from Grandpa in the game I thought they were scum in that we played together and thought they literally did not look like town from any of those games I checked out. Then Grandpa was like "no no" then linked me some other game, and that other game was also not like the game they were playing in the game I was suspecting Grandpa lol
Originally Posted by Master Radishes1641578232
I just skimmed catbae's iso under the presumption of guilt. All this is null if he's town and something has gone wrong.
The thing that made me RB hkm when I subbed in was seeing he did a joke vote, immediately changed to a serious vote, then sat on it the entire freaking round. He then spends his early game doing lots of directionless analysis. It's hard to parse potential associations because he at some point basically describes what he does and doesn't like about a post for every player. It's clear he'd mimic that for his mates so not much to comment on here.
Once he settles in he has an ongoing interaction with Grandpa that...ugh its maaaybe theatre? But I don't really feel it is. It feels like Grandpa keeps poking at Cat to explain/expand/reconsider and Cat keeps shrugging it off and keeping his scumread intact. And it picks up again a bit later. It just doesn't really feel aligned to me, but I'm not fully certain.
I also sorta think something similar about Cape. I...uh can't remember why now. But there were just a couple small interactions that don't feel like partners talking in thread. This is a weaker read.
I also think illwei comes off as unpartnered. Cat mostly ignored the slot and gives it an easy TR, then suddenly illwei becomes the wagon du jure on D3 and Cat quickly grows more sure of her scumminess. He even now changes his mind about Esooa's iso and now thinks it's mediocre. If Cat is a known busser maybe that's what this is, but otherwise it feels like illwei is not Cat's teammate.
Most other interactions are soft enough to be possible scum mates. (Actually the thing that stuck out to me is Dolby, who is a bottom SR but never followed up on. But uh that's Laurentus now and no way am I tinfoiling there this late in the day.)
I would caution anyone else looking for spew against basing it off individual comments or posts. Any halfway decent scum can fake one or two interactions, but if they're not paying careful attention they show a certain bite on possible mischops and a certain softness on mates.
This makes me 100000% without a doubt believe MR's claim is real
Cape also town for sharing my exact sentiment P#2223, like that's the kind of nuance "ever since the roster changed it's felt tedious to keep up" that is so to a point of what I feel I don't think scum could fake that.
At the same time, it is super fakeable because it is such a prevalent feeling.
cape - started stron but I feel like he's started coasting, don't get the apparent WIM drop now that peopl are actually posting
im ngl i just haven't been that invested in this game
same i think i got like prodded twice. but i decided to make more committments. i keep forgetting about the game after night and its been apparent in my posting. i think ur town cape for this . ik its like nai and i dont like reading stuff that can be usually nai but ive known u and known ur town game. this isnt ur town game if im being honest but i dont tihnk its ur scum either. hmmm wait
can u tell me why u are town? because now that im thinking bout it... in our town game we played u were way more solvey... and u attacked me hard on some dumb reaction $%#!. do u remember that? what happened to all this energy in this game?
ik i was like slightly townreading u or was just trying to gvie u twoncred because we did the same thing but this made me inquire some more \
Ever since most of this game's entire roster changed, I just kinda found the game to become a bit tedious to keep up with.
I am not sure how or what I could tell you right now to convince you I am town. I strive in games which feel more interactive, which this one doesn't and the thing that helped in the game where I was scum reading you was just the high level of active activity in that game, like there were like 2 400 posters in a day if you remember, they were pumping content out like it was nobody's business. And I feed off the energy that each game of mafia brings me, and if I just see low engagement and all that, I just kinda get into this low energy state of mind, especially after I made that huge wall when I got here, you remember that? So I kinda burnt myself off that too. Also, I feel like I have been slowly getting tired of being consumed by playing mafia as well.
Vorros feels incredibly derpy this game. I guess there isn't a reason to at least try to apply pressure there. Whatever Vorros has been doing with the push on you, it felt of pure honesty I guess is the way I should explain it. I dunno, maybe I am just being hard-headed as I usually am. "Too Strange To Be A Wolf" is my jurisdiction I came up with in my head.
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