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Originally Posted by ladd 1673600357 (#148)

##Vote c4e5g3d5

rough rand

ladd knew all along

ggs all

##Unvote Mantichora

Originally Posted by Logic 1673998518 (#2310)

Originally Posted by Cuthalion 1673998493 (#2308)

do not maj

i want visor to have the time

Wut?

did i stutter

do not maj

i want visor to have the time

jailing katze yee

my reasons weren't nebulous, just exaggerated

do not maj

i want manti to have the time

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673997407 (#2237)

Katze is posting like a wolf who doesn't want to be targeted by our PRs.

or goading us both into targeting her

i still think i should by lock clear by my posting

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1673997171 (#2219)

i believe the term is $%#!goblin

got a good chortle out of me there

no solve just dunk

i don't think visor/katze thunderdome is a helpful way to play out next phase assuming next game needs to be played out

i'm jailing katze lmao

i think ara is good

from combination of dead air in terms of discussing her play/i think lower chance of posting herself clear/really sus stuff wrt both c4 and marmot

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673996321 (#2180)

Originally Posted by Cuthalion 1673996249 (#2175)

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673995138 (#2144)

Cuth I don't think I'll respect your read if you die first and other people die before me. We'll see. I don't want this game to get too bogged down by this when I'm still thinking about other people.

just general reads or are you talking about something in specific

Katze.

I'll keep your reads jn mind in general, of course.

oh no for sure not

i'm just waffling there

she's still squarely in poe just trying to decide where to go with action i think she's nowhere near the bar of even beck in my mind

who i'd be tempted to target if people are actually worried about him but meh

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673995138 (#2144)

Cuth I don't think I'll respect your read if you die first and other people die before me. We'll see. I don't want this game to get too bogged down by this when I'm still thinking about other people.

just general reads or are you talking about something in specific

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1673994364 (#2121)

if ara get shots

then you jk one of beck ladd or katze

ik

that's the plan

i'm switching back to ladd now though

i feel like it's maybe more helpful than katze in fringe worlds

katze just seems like an upset villager here lol

reconsidering jk target

ara dies anyway i think

ie in that it would have been better not to

generally speaking

i don't wanna maj because every time it happens visor was right

Originally Posted by katze 1673994168 (#2112)

Originally Posted by Cuthalion 1673994102 (#2106)

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673994037 (#2101)

Still taking input on shots targets.

imo shoot ara

i'm gonna jail katze

id advocate for swapping the two still but

you do you ig

im snapvoting nl tomorrow if it aint ara and abusing my clear status to bully him :^)

aight well both you and ara have stated that preference so

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673994037 (#2101)

Still taking input on shots targets.

imo shoot ara

i'm gonna jail katze

ladd is obviously a wolf and he and marmot agreed to self-hammer quick maj on discord but ladd forgot that he was already voting marmot and also that he was post-capped so it ended up being a vote short

prove me wrong

the only conditional i would really consider would be maybe jking dizzy if marmot v but i think i'd rather do someone else in that situation

i acknowledge that dead v!katze does the same

i think i'd rather jk katze of the two tbh since having clear katze gives insight into people who've been pushing there esp like d1ish

so i have no issues with jking either katze/ara here (or ladd/whatever) regardless of marmot alignment

is there one you feel better about shooting regardless of marmot flip manti?

still don't really know if i feel like hammering here

hi

Originally Posted by ladd 1673987806 (#2026)

i'd rather have katze jailed and ara shot

i am kinda baffled you guis can't get there on me being a villager and need to jail me but go with god i guess

i mean honestly yeah i think this is still my preferred as it has been through the phase

and if marmot w then yeah

but else eh

i will announce itt if my target changes, so if there's a maj and i haven't said otherwise it's whatever i said last

on ladd atm

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673980607 (#1924)

##Unvote marmot

@Cuthalion assuming marmot is catting, your jail is a public cop check tonight. I think you jail someone who would be somewhat troubling but useful to have clear, and I kill straight PoE.

@Mantichora you wanna pick two names you'd feel ok shooting into either way marmot flips?

@Mantichora if people maj early I've had mine sitting on kat and I'll leave it there to make sure we don't cross

but ideally i don't wanna maj until we have things better coordinated

##Unvote marmot

Originally Posted by Visorslash 1673933709 (#1797)

sup cuth

any thoughts on todays postings

not much

marmot's posts were

lacking

ara is like

posting in a really weird way but it's kinda the same way as before

and it's either pretty villagery or very much not and not much in between

i like katze a bit more but that's more like vibes/genuineness of emotion than anything i'm still unsettled by their general direction later yesterday/sod today

sorry i'm not being super helpful/productive earlier this phase i felt like i had my finger on the pulse of the game more but kinda out of it both game-wise and general headspace-wise

Originally Posted by marmot 1673632121 (#269)

Originally Posted by ladd 1673621797 (#202)

Originally Posted by katze 1673620912 (#197)

Originally Posted by ladd 1673600357 (#148)

##Vote c4e5g3d5

rough rand

Hrm. How real is this read? Or, better put, how strongly do you feel about it in this state of the game?

obviously not very lol i just didn't like the toan of his posts

this game has less content than a turbo

Why do you say that? I know post-quantity is still in turbo territory, but there's plenty of content in the thread to read imo?

i just noticed this post

thonk

@marmot these ones!

Originally Posted by marmot 1673639990 (#386)

I read c4's ISO to this point, and I Could easily go either way and I don't really think there's a point in thinking harder about it rn

Originally Posted by marmot 1673729988 (#977)

#384: I don't understand what this post is referring to, can you explain please @c4e5g3d5? I think it's referring to vigging and I might just be lacking context, but Idk if we'd talked about vigs yet.
#402: This is similar to what katze said, and I think it's mildly v that c4 gave a similar explanation and botd to Apoc's early posts.
#448: This read is interesting, because c4 said the Wisdom was making quirky reads in this game, and then said they did the same thing in their recent wolf game which wouldn't seem like a reason to townread them. Are you townreading them specifically off of how their self-consciousness?
#491: LOL, it's a backpedal, but it makes sense.
#672: I don't know if I'd describe benneh as "trying to be a positive influence", unless you specifically meaning trying to push this game in a pro-town direction early on, which I do think he's doing. But I think I can see what you're saying, even if I disagree with how you say it.
#675: I don't get the reasoning for this, but I also completely disagree, and thought that post from Cuth was the wolfiest post in the game from what I'd read to this point (I've admittedly missed a lot)


And that's where c4's ISO cuts off.


I think c4 can be a wolf. I liked a couple of his reads, but I also think there's dissonance that I don't understand in a couple places that I'd like you to shed some light on if you could c4.

(It also occurred to me in this post I might've had Wisdom's pronouns wrong before now, but I will rectify that going forward, and I apologize if I did)

Originally Posted by marmot 1673906162 (#1694)

Originally Posted by Arapocalypse 1673905895 (#1691)

Originally Posted by marmot 1673905699 (#1688)

c4 was a tryhard wolf tbh. It was all over his iso.

Hmm, I didn't really get that "tryhard wolf" impression from him? Would agree with those you said were spewed town regardless, and also Beck in particular as well!!!!!

Cuth claimed jailkeeper, and Mantichora "claimed" vig by the way!!!

That post I made was a joke


Ooooh thanks!

Cuth will you forgive me for voting you Day 1?

i don't have a problem with you voting me, i have a problem with how hedgy you were with c4 the entire game through the eod and then the timing of your voting me only insofar as it has to do with the fact that c4 was the main alternative wagon

if you could talk me through your progression on c4 in your brain in as much detail as you can recall it might help me find you here if you're v

who was like that wisdom wagon is sooo gross lol

Originally Posted by ladd 1673891089 (#1602)

c4 was going in alphabetical order no? maybe they were just late in the alphabet and not itt at the same time. I know some wolves (me included) who consider interacting with other wolves a waste of time (idk if it's c4's case, just saying)


read on dizzy seems fine

their alphabetic iso stuff went basically nowhere and it was at the end of their posting

but they interacted with several people they didn't iso earlier

i just don't think they straight up don't mention or interact with only a pool of 3 players which contains both of their teammates

Originally Posted by ladd 1673890790 (#1599)

ladd
cuth
manti

benneh
wisdom

beck
logic

visor
dizzy

marmot
ara


i guess this is where i am at with the caveat that if visor is a wolf, bottom 2 is probably 0/2

and viceversa if ara or marmot are wolves visor is probably just a villager

imo marmot flipping w hard clears dizzy from dys' posts late yesterday

also if you're not 100% on logic marmot w clears him too imo because c4 literally never mentioned or interacted with either of them and i don't think that would happen tbh

i'm feeling some amount better about katze too

like i don't think anything pushes them out of my poe but

just vibes-wise i'd rather not go there atm

i think specifically marmot coming into eod and being like ok i'm here now i see it's between these top three wagons c4/cuth/wisdom, isoing c4 and waffling the $%#! out of him, then hedging me as well before barely engaging with me and then voting me "for more interesting wagons" and because they didn't agree with some of the posts i made on that page (?)

and then not having the energy to iso wisdom and half-heartedly asking other people for opinions there

idk

it's like

kinda bad imo

Originally Posted by marmot 1673639990 (#386)

I read c4's ISO to this point, and I Could easily go either way and I don't really think there's a point in thinking harder about it rn

Originally Posted by marmot 1673728723 (#957)

Could someone please give me a tl;dr of the last 18 hours or so? I won't have time to read it myself.

I see that Cuth, c4, and Wisdom are leading wagons, so I'm going to dive into their ISOs first, but I'd love a summary of why those are the current wagons.

Originally Posted by marmot 1673729988 (#977)

#384: I don't understand what this post is referring to, can you explain please @c4e5g3d5? I think it's referring to vigging and I might just be lacking context, but Idk if we'd talked about vigs yet.
#402: This is similar to what katze said, and I think it's mildly v that c4 gave a similar explanation and botd to Apoc's early posts.
#448: This read is interesting, because c4 said the Wisdom was making quirky reads in this game, and then said they did the same thing in their recent wolf game which wouldn't seem like a reason to townread them. Are you townreading them specifically off of how their self-consciousness?
#491: LOL, it's a backpedal, but it makes sense.
#672: I don't know if I'd describe benneh as "trying to be a positive influence", unless you specifically meaning trying to push this game in a pro-town direction early on, which I do think he's doing. But I think I can see what you're saying, even if I disagree with how you say it.
#675: I don't get the reasoning for this, but I also completely disagree, and thought that post from Cuth was the wolfiest post in the game from what I'd read to this point (I've admittedly missed a lot)


And that's where c4's ISO cuts off.


I think c4 can be a wolf. I liked a couple of his reads, but I also think there's dissonance that I don't understand in a couple places that I'd like you to shed some light on if you could c4.

(It also occurred to me in this post I might've had Wisdom's pronouns wrong before now, but I will rectify that going forward, and I apologize if I did)

Originally Posted by marmot 1673729998 (#978)

^^That's my quite c4 iso summary

Originally Posted by marmot 1673730012 (#979)

EBWOP: quick

Originally Posted by marmot 1673731185 (#999)

Looking through Cuth's ISO


#319: For the most part I like this readlist. I like it a little less now because many of these reads are simply "I like this" or "I didn't like this", without a lot of explanation. But it was still early in the game at which point vibes do seem to trump explanation so that's not a big deal.
#348: I don't like this spf read. I had a stronger reaction at first then I feel now, but I don't get why Cuth accepted spf's naked reads without any further interaction. If Cuth is a wolf, I do think it points to c4 likely town based simply on this vote.
#383: c4 never actually did this did he. No he didn't, I just read his ISO.
#405: I'm actually torn, I can't tell if it's more towny that Cuth did this exact same thing a second time, or scummy. Will think on it, but I did notice that katze did this exercise.
#984: I like this gamestate observation, and think it's mildly v.

Cuth had one moment that I dislike, but also one moment that I really liked. But I am a little concerned that he hasn't posted like 18 hours (although I don't think c4 has posted recently either)

Originally Posted by marmot 1673731267 (#1000)

##Vote c4e5g3d5

Originally Posted by marmot 1673732253 (#1022)

##Vote Cuthalion

I'm moving here for now for more interesting wagons, and also I don't agree with some of their content on this page.


I don't mind chopping either c4 or Cuth today.


Going to watch a show with a friend, but I'll pop in here and there before eod.

Originally Posted by Mantichora 1673889112 (#1584)

I've read the thread. Going to make posts later in the day. Waiting for everyone to check in and get started.

wolfy post imo

Originally Posted by Cuthalion 1673886633 (#1560)

what happens with the other three == one yeet one vig one jk

which is to say if our poe's way around we'll know about it

beck right before eod yesterday dizzy had a post confidently telling me that if c4 was a wolf marmot and i were high likelihood wolves

what happens with the other three == one yeet one vig one jk

visor could you talk about marmot

Originally Posted by benneh 1673846472 (#1480)

bleh I should do some reading or put real thought into the game at some point but i'm just kind of out of it today sorry folks

all good friend you carried us d1

take care of yourself