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  1. Poll: a lot of forums do that tbh

    Quote Originally Posted by Fable (#65)
    This thread reminded me that in my first wolf game ever "wolf chat" was done entirely through PMs lol.
    a lot of forums do that tbh
  2. Poll: Where I'm at with this is basically just Zapp's...

    Where I'm at with this is basically just Zapp's post word for word. A right to privacy is a big part of the MU ethos and it makes sense that this extends to private chats. I don't believe access to these chats to be an inalienable right, but instead a privilege. The default state is that wolf chats remain private, even if the majority of them do not remain private, in the same vein that most people get more than a 0 on a test, but 0 is still the default state of your score. Reversing the default state to reflect majority, or plurality, or minority or one stooge or whatever is just an unnecessary stripping of freedoms.

    and I was gonna type more but I'm being whisked away to eat breakfast I'll finish this later or maybe I'll forget see ya

    Yeah so as I was saying, I think even if 100% of wolf chats were released by choice for a year straight it'd still be silly to make their release mandatory. It's a needless restriction.

    also frankly I find the idea of people hiding their super secret wolf strats and thoughts by keeping wolfchat private is kinda ludicrous in a "I am hardcore WW player" sort of way but hey I won't scoff at your reasoning for keeping your privates private it's your right
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    I thought I told sb to lock this thread in the...

    I thought I told sb to lock this thread in the Vault

    smh the state of grunts these days

    Regardless, the merits of this thread's existence, if there were any to begin with, have not been evident in the more recent posts so this is getting locked. If you want to PM all mods MrStoldi, I'm the closest you'll get. Feel free to hit me up but temper your sense of decency and expectation should you dare.
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    life

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    Sticky: Hello, Bruce

    Hello, Bruce
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    background

    background
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    dead

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    Sticky: ahoy howdy watt o/

    Quote Originally Posted by Watt2015 (#2677)
    Well, my name is Watt2015. Feel free to call me Watt. I'm from the BMG forums, figured I'd come check this place out ^-^
    ahoy howdy watt o/
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    death

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    sheep

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    who

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    play

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    tree

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    witch

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    cuth will always represent citrus in my heart

    cuth will always represent citrus in my heart
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    rise

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    Sticky: ahoy ahoy o/ ahoyhoy hoyahoy o/

    Quote Originally Posted by Lumgol (#2648)
    Hey people, I'm from the 17th Shard/Sanderson Elimination community and I thought I'd just drop by here and say hi o/
    ahoy ahoy o/

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven1207 (#2649)
    Hi,

    My name is Raven1207. This is the first time I've been on this site and I'm representing Discord Werewolf and hope to enjoy playing with you guys.
    ahoyhoy hoyahoy o/
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    nebulous

    nebulous
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    all

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    glory

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    this was my 18,881st post

    Quote Originally Posted by lute (#10819)
    wet
    this was my 18,881st post
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    wet

  23. #653

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    Sticky: I mean if nobody minds me pulling the curtain...

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#652)
    Quote Originally Posted by lute (#645)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#642)
    Lets change game reviwers and queue managers to different colours while we're at it
    actually people wanted this one real bad
    What we're saying is

    Two quite different green jobs are the same colour


    But two very very similar blue jobs are different colours


    I mean if nobody minds me pulling the curtain back a little here I'll say up front that I don't really care about the colors all that much (and Amy might have some words on this) despite being the reason purple exists

    If I recall correctly, which I usually do, teal was kind of an unofficial "mod training color" in that potential blues who were active mostly on Discord could pick up the slack there since a lot of the blues at the time didn't want to be entirely responsible for the Discord for a wide variety of reasons. So in that sense, there was a purpose beyond just delineating who best to come to with problems on either the site or Discord. As time went on that hasn't really been what we've used the role for and honestly teals may as well be blues at this point, I agree.

    I don't think anything I said just now mattered at all what the whatever I'm leaving it in

    The big issue we face is one that's hard to deal with, honestly:

    Ara's the senior teal and she loves that color


    So anyway in conclusion: I don't think there has to be a distinction but personally I don't care that there is one. And I feel somewhat apathetic to the whole situation because I don't find colors particularly confusing and only really take umbrage with one color.

    Gold.
    No I'm serious I'm actually unreasonably annoyed by the existence of the Golden God role, couldn't tell you why.
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    bed

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    Sticky: now this one's just mod abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Five-Star Men (#648)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#646)
    Change me to gold pls
    now this one's just mod abuse
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    marco

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    Sticky: actually people wanted this one real bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Apoc (#642)
    Lets change game reviwers and queue managers to different colours while we're at it
    actually people wanted this one real bad
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    .webm

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    hearth

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    nvm

  31. #2627

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    Sticky: my salamander eats crickets

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewGreve (#2625)
    Quote Originally Posted by El-ahrairah (#2624)
    Quote Originally Posted by CerealKiller (#2621)
    Hi everyone! Came here from PlanetCricket, where i've participated in about a dozen games, so i'm a newbie. I'm hoping to represent my community in the Mafia Championship, so i'm looking to join a game for new members.
    About me : i'm 18, from Pakistan, lived most of my life in Italy and then Germany, currently back in my home country.
    I'm about to graduate from high school, and then looking to become a lawyer.
    In my free time i like to watch or play football or cricket,
    watch stuff on Netflix, read about politics and work out in the gym.
    It's so cool that you like crickets, they are a really underrated creature.
    food of the future mate
    my salamander eats crickets
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    Resolved actually that's a bit after the start of the...

    Quote Originally Posted by TwiszTed (#6)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#5)
    standby is more the absence of a phase/limbo in between than a phase
    And there should be no such phase as far as thread marks go.

    Players can either post, or they can't.

    The lady can't be "halfway pregnant".
    actually that's a bit after the start of the second trimester
  33. #120

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    Resolved I don't know what the "official" wording of the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkness (#116)
    @lute , no offense, but your policy has nothing to do with grudges at all. If you wanted to make a new policy that says that grudges aren't allowed, just say so, and then contact people individually if you think it's a grudge. This bizzare solution that beats around the bush of apparently the main problem has a lot of negative consequences, and actually allows you to have a grudge anyway (you can just make up a random reason to scumread someone lol). So, you can't have it both ways. Either don't have the policy and then just moderate on an individual basis, or have the new policy, but then you have to be expect to be held accountable for the unintended side effects that it has. I don't know what this thread has deteriorated to but I still haven't gotten answers for about 5-10 points I've raised about it. I don't think it's acceptable to say "just don't talk with a lawyer" or "it really boils down to this," when the policy actually is something completely separate.
    I don't know what the "official" wording of the policy is. I only care insofar as I'm expected to care given my position. The purpose and therefore spirit is about upholding the ideal of game integrity in the area of disallowing OGI grudges. You keep talking about consequences and how it has to change but your proposed solution is more or less what it already is.

    Rules and policies exist to give a general outline of expected behavior. Moderators exist to steer users towards the expected behavior. The great thing about nuance and direct moderator intervention is it allows for wiggle room and interpretation to supersede written rules. You say the policy allows for circumvention because you can just make up a reason to scumread somebody. This is also a means of circumventing angleshooting reads, or outright cheating. The thing is, moderation isn't handled automatically. It's not a robot scanning posts for things that fall outside of a hardline "acceptable" zone, it's people trusted to interpret the posts within a grander context and determine is there's a need for intervention. If somebody came up with a dumb excuse to scumread someone all the time, incessantly, there's a strong chance they're trying to avoid getting moderated for a grudge, and we will catch that. On the same token, someone might actually be legitimately scumreading someone for dumb reasons all the time without any grudge. It's on us to determine the difference. Nuance. It's beautiful.

    The rules are not black and white. There's one real rule on MU, "Be excellent to each other," and the written rules just demonstrate what that means if you can't figure it out for yourself. I'm not interested in arguing the semantics of a policy that's nebulously defined for the specific reason that it invites rules lawyering and defenses rooted in the letter and not the spirit.
  34. #115

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    Resolved bad day bad mood I can be held accountable...

    bad day

    bad mood

    I can be held accountable for none of my actions or comments nor do I consider them official in any capacity

    from the heart

    here goes

    *ahem*

    Rules lawyering is bull$#@!. Don't be a jerk. Be the reason people want to play. Give peace a chance. The policy isn't new people just never have a good grasp on policies so we gotta reintroduce them over and over. If I see a grudge I'll moderate it. If I see a grudge and then I see it's not a grudge I won't. It's simple on my end. Don't care how simple it is on yours. 99% of our users get through the day without being reported for this stuff, much less moderated. It's not hard. It's not rocket science. No need for complexity. Do what feels right until you're told to stop. Then stop. Otherwise, you're golden. Congratulations. You cracked the code.

    If you read this post and thought it was directed at you, cool your jets. It's for everybody. Share the love you narcissist. Kiss kiss.

    -♫
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    Rejected Actually, you do not. Your ears you keep and...

    Quote Originally Posted by Emberguard (#4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy Drew 39 (#1)
    I beg you, please make MU, blue again. The red is way too much of an eyesore.
    Relax. It's for one day and then you get your eyes back :P
    Actually, you do not.

    Your ears you keep and I'll tell you why...
  36. #10736

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    lovely

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    sweet

  38. #110

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    Sticky: Manasi has been banned for 1 month for an...

    Manasi has been banned for 1 month for an extensive history of insulting other users. She had been warned about this behavior in the past.
  39. #10722

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    attache

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    Sticky: glgl

    Quote Originally Posted by hbthebattle (#2602)
    So uh I made an account to play in the MASH
    Wish me luck
    glgl
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    Sticky: been real busy lately my piggly-wiggly pal, I'm...

    Quote Originally Posted by chrja (#742)
    @lute I didn't get a birthday message from you, i am very disappointed, not mad, just disappointed.


    @moon moon you forgot as well....
    been real busy lately my piggly-wiggly pal, I'm sorry
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    little did ted realize his feeble thread-closing...

    little did ted realize his feeble thread-closing abilities posed no obstacle to my unlimited power
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    I say jif because I don't like hard g's try to...

    I say jif because I don't like hard g's

    try to drop them alto'ether

    somethin' about it just feels right
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    I mean I'm fine banning you for it now

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy (#95)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#93)
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy (#88)
    Sometimes people sub-out due to frustration and it can be villagery.
    and they get extremely sternly moderated for it in the rare cases this happens

    it's fairly towards the severe end of "inappropriate reasons to sub out"
    oh

    well then Lissa, i just want you to know that when i subbed out of Manti's fate mash (1 year ago) ummmm, it was NOT due to frustration, it was because my dog was on fire.
    I mean I'm fine banning you for it now
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    oh and you'll look like a prick every time you...

    Quote Originally Posted by lute (#91)
    if subbing out is actually AI for an individual Lissa/Dp step in fast enough that you'll maybe have the chance to read into it correctly once at most before it stops being AI and then you'll just be a fool for the rest of time
    oh and you'll look like a prick every time you guess
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    if subbing out is actually AI for an individual...

    if subbing out is actually AI for an individual Lissa/Dp step in fast enough that you'll maybe have the chance to read into it correctly once at most before it stops being AI and then you'll just be a fool for the rest of time
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    effort wasted in the wrong direction because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkness (#87)
    I have some thoughts on specific people’s posts but lol at the idea that sub outs aren’t AI. They definitely definitely are and if you’ve been getting bad angleshooting reads y’all obviously haven’t been trying hard enough
    effort wasted in the wrong direction

    because legitimate substitutions aren't AI

    sorry you had to find out this way
  48. Sticky: the reference to the gillette commercial was the...

    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewGreve (#73)
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge Lord 5000 (#72)
    @AndrewGreve LOL i was just joking
    you got me bro
    the reference to the gillette commercial was the giveaway
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    been trying to drill this $#@! in for years some...

    Quote Originally Posted by bopolis (#80)
    and instead let people now that things like subbing and mentioning that they are multitabling are not alignment indicative.
    been trying to drill this $#@! in for years some hotshot always comes along thinking they've got the brilliant angle read, lucks out, and takes that one instance of validation as proof for the rest of time

    y'all think it's clever but it's just bad play that'll keep you in stasis forever without improving

    some mothermother's always tryna ice skate uphill

    there shouldn't have to be a rule cuz you'd just learn from your mistakes to not do it but that requires a sense of self-reflection some folks seem to lack

    if this feels like a call-out post it might be but I'm not thinking of anyone in particular
  50. Sticky: off the cuff: -best quote is a fun idea with a...

    off the cuff:

    -best quote is a fun idea with a lot of potential to be a garbage fire in the nominations thread

    easy to twist it into a negative thing for the recipient depending on how people wanna play it and I want the awards to be universally positive and uplifting for the community as a whole

    not saying it's a guarantee but will say my early warning alarms are going off that this could turn into a "why we can't have nice things" situation

    probably just make it a cat and see how it goes, yank it if we feel the need, hope everyone plays nice

    -you shouldn't limit how many awards people can get

    it's messy first off

    messy to vote for, messy to please the recipient (like apoc said, maybe they wanted a different award they got locked out of for... being deserving of an award) just messy messy

    and also it's like, lame as hell

    sure it might feel a bit bad to see apoc get 20 awards he doesn't deserve because he's terrible at mafia and comes from the worst region of the united kingdom, but come on... it's cool to see that huge awards showcase, yeah? if people earn the right to "flex" as the kids say (I don't talk to kids) then let 'em

    -most dedicated/enjoyable should totally be separate cats

    you can be one or both or neither and it's all good, keep 'em separate, yeah

    -other games awards would be nice

    but they require some investment in the other games section which I would love to see this year

    -don't exclude subs from being awarded regular performance awards

    if people think they earned the award, they'll vote

    if they don't, they won't

    at the end of the day it's a themed popularity contest meant to bring us together, look back on the past year, remember good times, and just celebrate MU in general

    we don't need to go through hoops to ensure recency bias or certain other biases are removed from the equation, because that's a lot of work that only really moves sideways from our goal

    this isn't the tour de france it doesn't need to be taken to the extreme

    that said, this isn't the tour de france so it's understandable we'd care a little about an even playing field




    I'm out of cuff
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