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  1. Resolved unless you're quotehacking an existing mod post...

    Quote Originally Posted by bopolis (#17)
    i truely fail to understand the problem with people "faking" modposts when things are already in place to ensure they cant be faked.

    generational thing i guess
    unless you're quotehacking an existing mod post to say something completely different, and even then players can see the OG anyways, it's impossible to legit fake a mod post.

    It's always going to come from the player making the post and everyone should know at that point they're not the mod lolol
    If they don't it's on them, not the faker
  2. Resolved That is the point of quotehacks yes, is to make...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#14)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#12)
    What is the difference between a faked mod post and quote hacking another players post when you're responding to it?

    Like clearly a faked mod post comes from a player, not a moderator/game moderator right? If players are paying attention to who's posting what it should be clear within minutes that the faked mod post isn't actually from a moderator.

    I would argue that this should be a legal action to take within a mafia game and that if you fall for it it's because you're not paying close enough attention.

    To me there's no difference between faking a mod post and doing something like this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#10)
    Quote Originally Posted by bopolis (#7)
    if it is ensured that mod posts can't be faked,

    then why not allow it?
    I think this is totally fine, it's something I'd do as a player for the lols
    We all know what Guillo actually said, if we click on the link to go to the post in question, and yet, at first glance the post I "hacked" looks completely legitimate.

    I don't find that to be angleshooting or otherwise against the rules or unwritten rules of mafia.
    I would warn you for that crap if you did it more than once or if it looks like a blatant attempt at framing a player for saying something they didnt actually say. If you quoted me and edited my posts to make it look like i posted it, i would be really mad, i would call you out for it, policy yeet you and blacklist you if you didnt apologize, it is not against the rules but it is just dirty play and it should be against the rules.
    That is the point of quotehacks yes, is to make the player you're quotehacking look like they said something they didn't. I think it's a function of where I learned to play though. Quotehacks were very common.

    We never had an issue with it though because unless you also edited the post to remove the link back to the original from the player you're quotehacking it only took a click to prove the hacker hacked.

    Likewise, with the tools that MU has available it's super easy to confirm the original post. Same with faked mod posts.

    I get what you're saying though, just don't necessarily agree with it.

    Ultimately yes, I think MU needs to codify whether quotehacks and fake mod posts are against the rules or are fair game. Having something like this be nebulous will only lead to bad feelings and/or games that turn toxic.

    Either it's fine, and everyone knows that it's fine, or it's not fine and the rules are updated to include "cannot fake mod post and cannot quotehack"
  3. Resolved What is the difference between a faked mod post...

    What is the difference between a faked mod post and quote hacking another players post when you're responding to it?

    Like clearly a faked mod post comes from a player, not a moderator/game moderator right? If players are paying attention to who's posting what it should be clear within minutes that the faked mod post isn't actually from a moderator.

    I would argue that this should be a legal action to take within a mafia game and that if you fall for it it's because you're not paying close enough attention.

    To me there's no difference between faking a mod post and doing something like this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#10)
    Quote Originally Posted by bopolis (#7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#6)
    In my opinion it shouldnt be allowed.

    The modpost role exists for a reason and that is to ensure that mod communication cannot be deliberately faked by a player.
    if it is ensured that mod posts can't be faked,

    then why not allow it?
    I think this is totally fine, it's something I'd do as a player for the lols
    We all know what Guillo actually said, if we click on the link to go to the post in question, and yet, at first glance the post I "hacked" looks completely legitimate.

    I don't find that to be angleshooting or otherwise against the rules or unwritten rules of mafia.
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