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As soon as I got free time, the game ends.but great game everybody.

Thanks for the game Mark.

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599801661 (#2330)

Unfortunately we seem to be at the lull in the day phase when most people are sleeping. Leion do you have anything else to add?

Unfortunately, my vote is the only thing I have. I am probably in the same boat as a lot of us here in trying to find scum. As there are so few suspicious people left. I think we are close enough in lynching scum. Today, I would probably go with either paws or Darr. How about you Destiny?

I would rather hear from anax first before lynching paws.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599657573 (#2224)

The problem with Darr is the following:

I don't think there is a mafia without a night action. Assuming each mafia has an action, why claim vanilla and risk being tracked?

Yeah, considering that if there was a vanilla mafia then TSS wouldn't have made the kill N1.

Originally Posted by p4rk 1599655955 (#2206)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599655868 (#2202)

I say we lynch Rev who has the weirdest story with the town back up.. after claiming vanilla
Did he also claim he can cop? there are too many cops...

##Vote Imarevenant

If he appears town:

- I track Darr, see if he really is vanilla.
- Destiny cops Luke see if there is a possible ninja.
- EP (as it will be an odd night) cops p4rk, Pawprints, or Jaded.

Lukess is town, we should use Destiny's cop somewhere else
He was my result last night

With this and the others results. I feel that lukes deserve a little bit of leeway after being considered scum for most of this game.

I think lynching a vanilla claim is the best we could do, in order to losing anymore power roles.

I would likely vote on Jaded as he hasn't been here for awhile.

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599634070 (#2166)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599632669 (#2165)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599632570 (#2164)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599631262 (#2162)

Nobody has really cleared their names yet today,we have some thinking to do. Leion as it's day time for both of us, same question to you. If we had to lynch now who would you choose?

I would probably have went with one of the vanilla claims left. Going in, I was going to go for Rev or EP, but since this phase started both have had claimed and have risen a bit from my suspicions. But only by a little. Paws is another big question mark for me, as I was reading through. She posted that she had little info about me, when I had already given out my role. I tend to be wary of this as it could be a sign that she wasn't fully paying attention and out for the town's best interests. I am also suspecting Jaded more, as after playing hero day 1 he had basically made no effort to help. He only dropped in to vote on lynches and I haven't seen much from him during the latter stages. He could still be mafia considering he hit an SK. Lukes is the last one I am considering. This is mainly due to the fact I really want to know what his alignment truly is. It has become a big what if behind my mind.

If placed in an order of preference I would go

Lukes
Jaded
Paws
Rev
EP.

How about you Destiny? Any thoughts on who to lynch next?

I thought tracking lukesss last night would remove this distraction and finally clarify that he's just had some bad reads as opposed to being scum. I'm surprised that given we know he didn't put in the kill last night both you and Rev would put him as your number one lynch today.

I'll go:

Paws
Rev
Jaded
lukesss
EP
Darr
Leion

People are moving up and down constantly in my mind. Really waiting to see what p4rk has to say and hoping to hear a bit more from Darr as well.

Is Universal Back Up a common role here?

Thinking about removing Jaded from my town core to be honest.

I placed lukes first because I don't have a surefire lynch yet. And mostly because of curiosity. This list is interchangeable depending on what happens this day phase. Some might join this list and some might be removed from it.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599632570 (#2164)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599631262 (#2162)

Nobody has really cleared their names yet today,we have some thinking to do. Leion as it's day time for both of us, same question to you. If we had to lynch now who would you choose?

I would probably have went with one of the vanilla claims left. Going in, I was going to go for Rev or EP, but since this phase started both have had claimed and have risen a bit from my suspicions. But only by a little. Paws is another big question mark for me, as I was reading through. She posted that she had little info about me, when I had already given out my role. I tend to be wary of this as it could be a sign that she wasn't fully paying attention and out for the town's best interests. I am also suspecting Jaded more, as after playing hero day 1 he had basically made no effort to help. He only dropped in to vote on lynches and I haven't seen much from him during the latter stages. He could still be mafia considering he hit an SK. Lukes is the last one I am considering. This is mainly due to the fact I really want to know what his alignment truly is. It has become a big what if behind my mind.

If placed in an order of preference I would go

Lukes
Jaded
Paws
Rev
EP.

How about you Destiny? Any thoughts on who to lynch next?

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599631262 (#2162)

Nobody has really cleared their names yet today,we have some thinking to do. Leion as it's day time for both of us, same question to you. If we had to lynch now who would you choose?

I would probably have went with one of the vanilla claims left. Going in, I was going to go for Rev or EP, but since this phase started both have had claimed and have risen a bit from my suspicions. But only by a little. Paws is another big question mark for me, as I was reading through. She posted that she had little info about me, when I had already given out my role. I tend to be wary of this as it could be a sign that she wasn't fully paying attention and out for the town's best interests. I am also suspecting Jaded more, as after playing hero day 1 he had basically made no effort to help. He only dropped in to vote on lynches and I haven't seen much from him during the latter stages. He could still be mafia considering he hit an SK. Lukes is the last one I am considering. This is mainly due to the fact I really want to know what his alignment truly is. It has become a big what if behind my mind.

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599628907 (#2157)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599628101 (#2153)

Thinking that night when Outlaw was killed by Leion could have been an elaborate plan. It's a long shot though. Can see reasons for everyone to be scum. EP you can only investigate on odd nights or even nights?

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599628215 (#2154)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599628101 (#2153)

Thinking that night when Outlaw was killed by Leion could have been an elaborate plan. It's a long shot though. Can see reasons for everyone to be scum. EP you can only investigate on odd nights or even nights?

Jaded could have had a day kill as maf too.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599628686 (#2155)

Finally caught up. This interaction stood out to me.

Originally Posted by Darr 1599624588 (#2148)

Zergon's list:
Town core
Destiny
Anaxagore
p4rk
Me

Probably town but not confirmed
Internet Cupid
Leion
Jaded
Rev
EP
Paws

Probably scum
Lukess1

About the same as my list, I had Paws higher and Leion above only EP and Lukess. This being from night phase.

I was also counting on only 1 scum left, but 2 is possible. 6 non town in a game of 18 isn't out of the question.

Also, from Zergon, can confirm that Internet Cupid visited Rev n1, and Zerg says he targeted me night 2 with a track to confirm I don't go out. Last night he was going to motion detector on Jaded to either clear with a No, or be more suspicious with a Yes result.

Zergon watched Anax right?

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599626071 (#2149)

Originally Posted by Darr 1599624588 (#2148)

Zergon's list:
Town core
Destiny
Anaxagore
p4rk
Me

Probably town but not confirmed
Internet Cupid
Leion
Jaded
Rev
EP
Paws

Probably scum
Lukess1

About the same as my list, I had Paws higher and Leion above only EP and Lukess. This being from night phase.

I was also counting on only 1 scum left, but 2 is possible. 6 non town in a game of 18 isn't out of the question.

Also, from Zergon, can confirm that Internet Cupid visited Rev n1, and Zerg says he targeted me night 2 with a track to confirm I don't go out. Last night he was going to motion detector on Jaded to either clear with a No, or be more suspicious with a Yes result.

The neighbor crumbs and your play has what has led me to a town lean for you, although I feel like I'm in the minority on that one.

Zerg had me night 1 and you night 2 then.


Thinking out loud here.....

Thinking of game set up. We have odd/even investigators, destiny roll cop, so they have a framer x3 to counter. We have Zerg/Anax/Destiny able to track, could we have a ninja kill out there or day kill to counter all that? We have multiple protectors, would we see a day kill or strong arm to counter?

Lots to think through and figure out whose been playing a town game.

And you acknowledging you were the one being visited seems odd to me.

I wanted to see if he would correct it. That's why I put that statement on it's own, to see what he would do.

This habit of answering things for each other is hindering to town and catching scum slipping up

I see, to be fair, I still have suspicions of you myself. That was why I reacted.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599628215 (#2154)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599628101 (#2153)

Thinking that night when Outlaw was killed by Leion could have been an elaborate plan. It's a long shot though. Can see reasons for everyone to be scum. EP you can only investigate on odd nights or even nights?

Jaded could have had a day kill as maf too.

I have been wondering about this as well, Jaded just disappeared basically disappeared after shooting an sk. So that doesn't really mean he isn't scum.

Finally caught up. This interaction stood out to me.

Originally Posted by Darr 1599624588 (#2148)

Zergon's list:
Town core
Destiny
Anaxagore
p4rk
Me

Probably town but not confirmed
Internet Cupid
Leion
Jaded
Rev
EP
Paws

Probably scum
Lukess1

About the same as my list, I had Paws higher and Leion above only EP and Lukess. This being from night phase.

I was also counting on only 1 scum left, but 2 is possible. 6 non town in a game of 18 isn't out of the question.

Also, from Zergon, can confirm that Internet Cupid visited Rev n1, and Zerg says he targeted me night 2 with a track to confirm I don't go out. Last night he was going to motion detector on Jaded to either clear with a No, or be more suspicious with a Yes result.

Zergon watched Anax right?

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599626071 (#2149)

Originally Posted by Darr 1599624588 (#2148)

Zergon's list:
Town core
Destiny
Anaxagore
p4rk
Me

Probably town but not confirmed
Internet Cupid
Leion
Jaded
Rev
EP
Paws

Probably scum
Lukess1

About the same as my list, I had Paws higher and Leion above only EP and Lukess. This being from night phase.

I was also counting on only 1 scum left, but 2 is possible. 6 non town in a game of 18 isn't out of the question.

Also, from Zergon, can confirm that Internet Cupid visited Rev n1, and Zerg says he targeted me night 2 with a track to confirm I don't go out. Last night he was going to motion detector on Jaded to either clear with a No, or be more suspicious with a Yes result.

The neighbor crumbs and your play has what has led me to a town lean for you, although I feel like I'm in the minority on that one.

Zerg had me night 1 and you night 2 then.


Thinking out loud here.....

Thinking of game set up. We have odd/even investigators, destiny roll cop, so they have a framer x3 to counter. We have Zerg/Anax/Destiny able to track, could we have a ninja kill out there or day kill to counter all that? We have multiple protectors, would we see a day kill or strong arm to counter?

Lots to think through and figure out whose been playing a town game.

And you acknowledging you were the one being visited seems odd to me.

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599393293 (#1957)

EP last 4 posts

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599385943 (#1882)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599382521 (#1881)

@EternalPhoenix, question to you, who would you say are top three town and top three wolfs at this point?

You're gonna make me get my list again? I don't know about town, if we exclude the glaring obviousness of Destiny and anax. If we don't,then throw...bleh...either p4rk or lukess in the third spot. Dead heat there. Meh, probably lukess but whatever.

Only named three I was actually concerned about. Darr, IC, and MLT. Buuuuut. Those aren't about anything they've actually done and more about their current position in the game. I'm a theorist and pattern recognizer, not a player reader. Now I woosh, because I get off work in less than ten. Pack up, go home, sweet sleep.

I like they consider MLT who i have as obvious scum, see my previous day top 3, and my response to MLT including vote

They are not pushing for obvious town, unlike MLT does

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599364423 (#1844)

@Anaxagore-Townie. So townie. Weird playstyle, but a townie.
@Darr-...you know, I'm curious about him. He fits my blending in the town ideas almost to a T.
@Destinylives-Also Townie. So Townie.
@EternalPhoenix-It's me. Hi.
@Imarevenant-Dunno yet. Leaning towards town but he's good enough to fool me.
@Internet Cupid-I don't know how she plays, exactly, but as far as this game goes she's with Darr in that "blending in with the town" thing.
@Jaded-Is Jaded. God knows.
@Leionhart-Unlike last game, getting a townie vibe. Is this because scum? I don't know. Probably not, but ???
@lukess1-Too obvious to be scum, so a townie. Probably.
@MLT-As usual, shady af. Not nearly as many posts at the rest, but that's not a knock on her. Lack of data, ugh.
@p4rk-Arguments withe lukess + being right about scum = townie. Probably.
@Pawprints-The other "Oh God knows" on this round up.
@zergon-Switzerland. Such neutral feelings I have, I am that country with him.

I like this readlist

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599363807 (#1842)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599361730 (#1836)

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599361396 (#1834)

For the record, I don't think lukess is scum. It's just entirely too obvious of a defense on both of them. He had his reasons, they were valid, and his very insistence on them is what cleared him for me. It's complete suicide as a scum play.

Wh are your top 3 scum?

Let me do the whole town. Go get the whole list.

Gives us a good read on entire town

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599361396 (#1834)

For the record, I don't think lukess is scum. It's just entirely too obvious of a defense on both of them. He had his reasons, they were valid, and his very insistence on them is what cleared him for me. It's complete suicide as a scum play.

we both read Lukess as scumtown.

Okay, I can understand now.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599392965 (#1953)

This was the postcount Day 1 after i claimed tracker and right before TooSweetSpartan advised to Sleep.

So I was correct to suspect that scum might have been hiding in sleep.

Aside from MLT, If I remember correctly p4rk and lukes were also there I believe.

I trust p4rk a little better now compared to before.

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599392786 (#1948)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599392693 (#1946)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599392538 (#1943)

So out of the current players

I am suspecting
EP
Lukes
Rev
MLT

Same, not fully sure on Paws either

Lynch MLT, pressure Rev and Paws.

Yeah, I can agree with this.


@Imarevenant

@Pawprints

Any thoughts/reads that you might like to share.

Originally Posted by zergon 1599392693 (#1946)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599392538 (#1943)

So out of the current players

I am suspecting
EP
Lukes
Rev
MLT

Same, not fully sure on Paws either

Yeah, voting for MLT and disappearing again raised some alarms for me.

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599392660 (#1945)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599392538 (#1943)

So out of the current players

I am suspecting
EP
Lukes
Rev
MLT

I think start with lynching MLT. With 18 players, probably need another, Rev is worth considering. Lukess may be scumtown and EP looks today better than before. For today, go with MLT but pressurw Rev more is good.

What did EP do that made you feel good about him. I might have missed something?

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599392538 (#1943)

So out of the current players

I am suspecting
EP
Lukes
Rev
MLT

There is probably 1 scum in this group.

I am doubtful of the vanilla claims as that seems a bit too much for my liking.

So out of the current players

I am suspecting
EP
Lukes
Rev
MLT

Originally Posted by zergon 1599392180 (#1937)

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599392072 (#1933)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599391829 (#1928)

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599391779 (#1927)

I am a vanilla or a healer claiming vanilla. Hint about that.

okay.
who did you heal the 2 nights?

You do know if i answer night two, i can't protect them night three, right?

I doubt between Tyche and Anax night 1. I protected Anax cuz i didnt wanna lose the town tracker. I also thought scum may avoid killing off the strongest townread cuz of protection roles but they did.

Night 2.... should i? I can't protect again that person night 3.

I can confirm night 1, or at least that Internet Cupid indeed visited Anaxagore

Okay then. That should clear up IC

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599392136 (#1935)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599392075 (#1934)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599392008 (#1932)

I tracked EP or MLT.

Can't remember right now.

Anything happened?

I wait for claims to reveal

If you are waiting, EP did mention he had a night action that failed?

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599361229 (#1833)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599356955 (#1827)

I'm calm now. Seriously: no one is more upset than me about how badly my D2 was. Anyways. @EternalPheonix What are you thinking?

Scum's scrambling, probably. Down two out of a probable four, they're in a bit of trouble. My night action didn't pan out like I hoped. If they were smart, they thought this might happen and the other probable two were lying relatively low from the start. The quiet scum, loud scum pairing does work pretty well.

Originally Posted by MLT 1599360462 (#1831)

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599360067 (#1830)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355955 (#1808)

I'll make it easy for you. ##Vote lukess1

Going to be honest. I want to policy eliminate you so bad for that.


As for the game, I can't see you going so hard on the defenses of TSS and Wayward without them trying to have you tone it down in wolf chat. Doesn't clear you by any means but I think we table the Lukess discussion and explore other avenues.

MLT I would love to see your thoughts beyond the "day 1 Lynch topic." Who do you think we should be looking harder at today?

Anaxagore
Darr
EternalPhoenix
Imarevenant
Internet Cupid
Leionhart
lukess1
p4rk
Pawprints
zergon

OF the people on this list. I removed two names that I feel are town.

As for the rest. Anex is here mostly because of the constant lies. They have struck me wrong.

Luke, I don't know about. I feel the play is just too ballsy to be scum.

As for the remaining names. I.C and EP.

Something you want to know, Miss Tears?

Here was the post.

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599392072 (#1933)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599391829 (#1928)

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599391779 (#1927)

I am a vanilla or a healer claiming vanilla. Hint about that.

okay.
who did you heal the 2 nights?

You do know if i answer night two, i can't protect them night three, right?

I doubt between Tyche and Anax night 1. I protected Anax cuz i didnt wanna lose the town tracker. I also thought scum may avoid killing off the strongest townread cuz of protection roles but they did.

Night 2.... should i? I can't protect again that person night 3.

You could probably refrain from that so not to give scum a target.

Also

@zergon, could you verify that it was IC that you saw?

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599392008 (#1932)

I tracked EP or MLT.

Can't remember right now.

Anything happened?

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599391566 (#1921)

I am in favor of a claim from IC, EP, and MLT.

Do other player agree?

I don't want to be the only who pushes for it.

I am as well. It might be hard to convince EP though.

Originally Posted by Internet Cupid 1599391070 (#1910)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390268 (#1898)

i'd like EP, Internet Cupid, and MLT to give hints about their role.

Why hint? I either claim or not. If I would hint, why would town get it but but scum?

At this point. I don't think not sharing a bit about yourself would be suspect. There are a few unknowns left and that includes you.

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599391373 (#1917)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599390864 (#1907)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390043 (#1897)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599389458 (#1894)

1) Destiny claimed JOAT with jailkeeper at start of day 2.

What if I told you that I was the other one?

Could you see three being included?

He also has all two/three shots which don't match up with mine or Tyche's.

2)Here's what I have
Anaxagore tracker
Darr vanilla neighbor if I understood that french vanilla comment right
Destinylives JOAT
EternalPhoenix no idea
Imarevenant vanilla town
Internet Cupid no idea
Jaded day vig 1-shot
Leionhart assuming 1-shot vig
lukess1 vanilla town
MLT no idea
p4rk cop, think it was aligment but not 100% sure.
Pawprints vanilla town
zergon JOAT

3) and 4) not cop or block/protect but I tracked Darr and he didn't visit anyone so that checks out with his claim this day phase.

5) I agree on Lukess

Thanks for the list.

Did Leionhard claim vig or the kill on Wayward? I haven't read anything about that.

I did, I posted just before I saw that Mark made an error.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599354377 (#1784)

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599354280 (#1781)

I docced p4rk, in case I wasn't blocked.

That is weird. Why didn't you die last night?

Here it is.

Welcome to my town core. Allow Anax or Jaded to pour you a drink.

Why won't you do it yourself? I did finish your job. Lol.

Anyways, what do you think of how many there are left?

I am assuming either 1 or 2.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599391104 (#1912)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599390864 (#1907)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390043 (#1897)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599389458 (#1894)

1) Destiny claimed JOAT with jailkeeper at start of day 2.

What if I told you that I was the other one?

Could you see three being included?

He also has all two/three shots which don't match up with mine or Tyche's.

2)Here's what I have
Anaxagore tracker
Darr vanilla neighbor if I understood that french vanilla comment right
Destinylives JOAT
EternalPhoenix no idea
Imarevenant vanilla town
Internet Cupid no idea
Jaded day vig 1-shot
Leionhart assuming 1-shot vig
lukess1 vanilla town
MLT no idea
p4rk cop, think it was aligment but not 100% sure.
Pawprints vanilla town
zergon JOAT

3) and 4) not cop or block/protect but I tracked Darr and he didn't visit anyone so that checks out with his claim this day phase.

5) I agree on Lukess

Thanks for the list.

Did Leionhard claim vig or the kill on Wayward? I haven't read anything about that.

I did, I posted just before I saw that Mark made an error.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599354377 (#1784)

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599354280 (#1781)

I docced p4rk, in case I wasn't blocked.

That is weird. Why didn't you die last night?

Here it is.

Alright so i guess you're town then.

Unless you shot your own partner for cred... but i don't think you technically can select you partner as a target.

Nope, although I am vanilla now, I am still town.

But I am glad I actually hit the right target this time.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599391061 (#1909)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390710 (#1906)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599390624 (#1905)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390525 (#1904)

No someone has to send the action.

If someone else was blocked that blocker would have revealed it by now. Can't you give me this victory too? I need it for my town MVP status.

hahaha, maybe you did block the killer, but let's wait a bit to be sure

He could have made both his night action and the faction kill. It makes sense as it wouldn't put the other members at risk of being caught again.

Fixing my typo.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390710 (#1906)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599390624 (#1905)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390525 (#1904)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599390445 (#1902)

All the mafia have an action and the night kill is done seemingly by random.

No someone has to send the action.

If someone else was blocked that blocker would have revealed it by now. Can't you give me this victory too? I need it for my town MVP status.

hahaha, maybe you did block the killer, but let's wait a bit to be sure

He could have probably his night action and the faction kill. It makes sense as it wouldn't put the other members at risk of being caught again.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599390043 (#1897)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599389458 (#1894)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599386061 (#1883)

1) @Destinylives, i don’t understand your role.
You blocked www? after being cop? are you some kind of JOAT?

2) Can anyone post the list of claimed roles? I'm sure mafia has it. May help us see things clearer.
It may also be time for a massclaim, but let's not rush this.

3) I doubt WWS performed the kill after day 2, any other block/jailing last night?

4) Any other cop action?

5) I have seen Wayward play before and i highly doubt he would have told luke to defend him that much.
I say we don't lynch him, but investigate him later.

1) Destiny claimed JOAT with jailkeeper at start of day 2.

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599118384 (#1154)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599118132 (#1152)

Usually I would expect one of each role but joats kind of mess my math up. Guess it depends on number of uses for said abilities and considering the one in the graveyard had one-shot jk I could well see another one so that doesn't really help solve this in my pov.

What if I told you that I was the other one?

Could you see three being included?

He also has all two/three shots which don't match up with mine or Tyche's.

2)Here's what I have
Anaxagore tracker
Darr vanilla neighbor if I understood that french vanilla comment right
Destinylives JOAT
EternalPhoenix no idea
Imarevenant vanilla town
Internet Cupid no idea
Jaded day vig 1-shot
Leionhart assuming 1-shot vig
lukess1 vanilla town
MLT no idea
p4rk cop, think it was aligment but not 100% sure.
Pawprints vanilla town
zergon JOAT

3) and 4) not cop or block/protect but I tracked Darr and he didn't visit anyone so that checks out with his claim this day phase.

5) I agree on Lukess

Thanks for the list.

Did Leionhard claim vig or the kill on Wayward? I haven't read anything about that.

I did, I posted just before I saw that Mark made an error.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599354377 (#1784)

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599354280 (#1781)

I docced p4rk, in case I wasn't blocked.

That is weird. Why didn't you die last night?

Here it is.

Originally Posted by zergon 1599372541 (#1868)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599371970 (#1866)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599371117 (#1864)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599370908 (#1863)

I'm going to need a bit more than that. So you're also claiming vanilla? That's three vanilla claims now, right?

4

Yourself, Rev, Darr and MLT?

Paws, Lukess, Rev and Darr

If you include me and Jaded, this seems to be a lot of vanilla considering the roles already in the graveyard.

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599370908 (#1863)

Originally Posted by Darr 1599370086 (#1859)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599369400 (#1856)

Originally Posted by EternalPhoenix 1599364423 (#1844)

@Anaxagore-Townie. So townie. Weird playstyle, but a townie.
@Darr-...you know, I'm curious about him. He fits my blending in the town ideas almost to a T.
@Destinylives-Also Townie. So Townie.
@EternalPhoenix-It's me. Hi.
@Imarevenant-Dunno yet. Leaning towards town but he's good enough to fool me.
@Internet Cupid-I don't know how she plays, exactly, but as far as this game goes she's with Darr in that "blending in with the town" thing.
@Jaded-Is Jaded. God knows.
@Leionhart-Unlike last game, getting a townie vibe. Is this because scum? I don't know. Probably not, but ???
@lukess1-Too obvious to be scum, so a townie. Probably.
@MLT-As usual, shady af. Not nearly as many posts at the rest, but that's not a knock on her. Lack of data, ugh.
@p4rk-Arguments withe lukess + being right about scum = townie. Probably.
@Pawprints-The other "Oh God knows" on this round up.
@zergon-Switzerland. Such neutral feelings I have, I am that country with him.

I'm not sure aboutyou yet but your reads are similar to mine. I'm going to give lukess the benefit of the doubt now and look into someone else.

##Unvote lukess1
##Vote Darr

If we don't have any better suspects I would still be OK with lynching lukess today, but let's try to use the time we have. Darr what have you been up to?

I'm coming from a position of towniness where you need to convince me you're on the up.

Reading & posting by day, sleeping by night.

I'm going to need a bit more than that. So you're also claiming vanilla? That's three vanilla claims now, right?

You can add me to this as I used up my ammo.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599362484 (#1839)

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599362281 (#1838)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599361159 (#1832)

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599360067 (#1830)

Going to be honest. I want to policy eliminate you so bad for that.


As for the game, I can't see you going so hard on the defenses of TSS and Wayward without them trying to have you tone it down in wolf chat. Doesn't clear you by any means but I think we table the Lukess discussion and explore other avenues.

MLT I would love to see your thoughts beyond the "day 1 Lynch topic." Who do you think we should be looking harder at today?

Here's a hint: if I was a wolf, I would never have defended TSS. And for the millionth time, I was more defending there being a framer in which I was right.

So out of those that defended TSS last phase, who should we look at?

In terms of this phase, I think one of MLT/IC/EP are the way to go.

This would be another good alternative. I am curious where IC went. In terms of activity she did drop from her day 1.

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599362281 (#1838)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599361159 (#1832)

Originally Posted by Imarevenant 1599360067 (#1830)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355955 (#1808)

I'll make it easy for you. ##Vote lukess1

Going to be honest. I want to policy eliminate you so bad for that.


As for the game, I can't see you going so hard on the defenses of TSS and Wayward without them trying to have you tone it down in wolf chat. Doesn't clear you by any means but I think we table the Lukess discussion and explore other avenues.

MLT I would love to see your thoughts beyond the "day 1 Lynch topic." Who do you think we should be looking harder at today?

Here's a hint: if I was a wolf, I would never have defended TSS. And for the millionth time, I was more defending there being a framer in which I was right.

So out of those that defended TSS last phase, who should we look at?

I looked into the voting history of D2,and the people that voted Anax seems like a good start, there are people there like Paws and Darr that I would like to check out.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599356501 (#1817)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599356429 (#1815)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599356261 (#1812)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599356147 (#1809)

And when we got to that, you were still on the side of a wolf.

Tbh, I can't see the merit of you defending two scum so hard if you were on their team. So I am considering you may have tunneled.

But I am conflicted, since you are always talking about that town should avoid tunneling.

FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME: I WAS NOT DEFENDING OUTLAW. I WAS DEFENDING THE IDEA OF A FRAMER AND WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. And I believed TSS because Anax lied for no damn reason.

Well, Anax did lie for a reason. It might have been unconventional, but he did admit it as soon as the person that visited him was to be exposed in the thread.

What was the point of the Rev thing other than outting him?

I thought Rev claimed Vanilla? Also, how could he know what Rev was when he tracked TSS?

Originally Posted by MLT 1599356388 (#1814)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355687 (#1804)

Originally Posted by Destinylives 1599355614 (#1801)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355435 (#1798)

Go ahead and lynch me. Trust me: no one is more mad at me sucking as vanilla every time than I am.

Whether you're town or scum, don't just give up mate.

Let's say you just made a few bad reads, how about now?

Who's your top three town/scum? Give us something.

I think my top 3 scum would have to be IC, MLT and EP maybe.

Still gonna say this even though you think I'm scum.


The fact both TSS and WWS are scum leads me to believe Luke isn't scum. Both dead scum are good players, and they'd both tell him to back off if he was on their team. IT would be to obvious for him to be the next victim if one flipped scum.

I am actually giving this a thought. It would have been suicide to do what he did as scum.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599356261 (#1812)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599356147 (#1809)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355748 (#1805)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599355650 (#1803)

You can spin it that way. But you were so adamant that Wayward was the target, you didn't even try to consider if Destiny was actually right.

Not true. I said Wayward would be the guy I'd target if I was a framer so I was hesitant to lynch him. I consistently said I would vote for him but wanted to hear from everyone and then the whole TSS/me/Anax/p4rk thing happened.

And when we got to that, you were still on the side of a wolf.

Tbh, I can't see the merit of you defending two scum so hard if you were on their team. So I am considering you may have tunneled.

But I am conflicted, since you are always talking about that town should avoid tunneling.

FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME: I WAS NOT DEFENDING OUTLAW. I WAS DEFENDING THE IDEA OF A FRAMER AND WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. And I believed TSS because Anax lied for no damn reason.

Well, Anax did lie for a reason. It might have been unconventional, but he did admit it as soon as the person that visited him was to be exposed in the thread.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355955 (#1808)

I'll make it easy for you. ##Vote lukess1

Now don't be like that, we barely started this day phase.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355748 (#1805)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599355650 (#1803)

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355291 (#1796)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599355242 (#1794)

Alright, now that we got scum out of the way.

What do you have to say for yourself lukes. The two people you have both defended so hard turned out scum.

I really wasn't defending wayward. I was defending the idea of a framer existing and that maybe messing up Destiny's result. And I was right about the role existing.

You can spin it that way. But you were so adamant that Wayward was the target, you didn't even try to consider if Destiny was actually right.

Not true. I said Wayward would be the guy I'd target if I was a framer so I was hesitant to lynch him. I consistently said I would vote for him but wanted to hear from everyone and then the whole TSS/me/Anax/p4rk thing happened.

And when we got to that, you were still on the side of a wolf.

Tbh, I can't see the merit of you defending two scum so hard if you were on their team. So I am considering you may have tunneled.

But I am conflicted, since you are always talking about that town should avoid tunneling.

Originally Posted by lukess1 1599355291 (#1796)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599355242 (#1794)

Alright, now that we got scum out of the way.

What do you have to say for yourself lukes. The two people you have both defended so hard turned out scum.

I really wasn't defending wayward. I was defending the idea of a framer existing and that maybe messing up Destiny's result. And I was right about the role existing.

You can spin it that way. But you were so adamant that Wayward was the target, you didn't even try to consider if Destiny was actually right.

Alright, now that we got scum out of the way.

What do you have to say for yourself lukes. The two people you have both defended so hard turned out scum.

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599354280 (#1781)

I docced p4rk, in case I wasn't blocked.

That is weird. Why didn't you die last night?

In fact.

I will just go ahead and vote. ##Vote TooSweetSpartan

I don't see the point on waiting anymore. TSS won't add anything else anyways.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599214434 (#1711)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599214375 (#1710)

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599211663 (#1704)

Leionhart is waiting to see where the wind blows to see if he busses TSS or saves him

I was actually leaning to vote on TSS, but you wouldn't believe it now right?

I am not sure of anything, you're just a suspect right now

Fair enough. You do have some great points and it makes sense. Unlike TSS' defense.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599211663 (#1704)

Leionhart is waiting to see where the wind blows to see if he busses TSS or saves him

I was actually leaning to vote on TSS, but you wouldn't believe it now right?

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599211078 (#1698)

Hmm i guess a few townies really think my lie was not on purpose yesterday…
Why would i make up that story with the double visit with p4rk? Put yourself in my position and you’ll understand i didn’t lie but i was fishing for some reactions which i couldn’t get because of Zergon claim. And if was scum i would have waited for Zergon to just out that person, but i didn’t.

I said one minute after that « more was to come » and i completely explained that i was waiting for TSS presence…my aim was to put more pressure on Waward to see how TSS and other people would act, trying to see if TSS and Wayward are together.
My play makes perfect sense. I try to maximize the info i get cause i busted TSS and he couldn’t have known i tracked him….
I play town in a way i could play scum, many people don’t like that, and i get it. I can lie if i judge it’s in town’s long term benefit… So yes i'm an unconventianal player. Wayward knows this really well. But i'm afraid he won't defend me.

Other consideration:
It’s 4 4 now so i guess the mafia has a plan to get rid of me, instead of TSS or WWS with a scum waiting to put his vote on me.
I think it's Leionhart's job.
Even though i may die tonight, i like that scenario, that’s kind of what i hoped for.
Why? Cause to save their mate TSS people will be outing themselves today.

I’m also okay lynching Wayward. Are you TSS?

I think Lukess is too bad to be mafia, he just reads the game badly.
But at this point, he will need to be investigated.

Or is it that simple:

WWS+TSS+Leionhart+Lukess??

I am trying to find the rest of the team, are you really TSS?

I can see why you would consider to be on here, but that is not really the case.

Originally Posted by Anaxagore 1599211460 (#1701)

I have never played with lukess so i can't tell but is he good as town usually?

Lukes is quick to react, he is prone to get into arguments. Town or scum.

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599201238 (#1695)

Destiny where are you?

I am curious to your thoughts on what had happened.

And I tagged the wrong Destiny. @Destinylives.

@Destiny where are you?

I am curious to your thoughts on what had happened.

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599200430 (#1688)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599200244 (#1685)

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599200176 (#1684)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599199728 (#1678)

You don't believe that we should lynch an admitted liar?

Yeah, lukes has been aggressive with the defenses. Part of me wonders if that is a sane thing for a wolf to do. But if the flip turns red, I am guessing he won't be here for long.

Which flip? Man I am so far behind.

TSS I believe, lukess defended TSS as hard as he defended you earlier

Well I have stated my view as far as how it feels to me from my pov.

As soon as you catch up, I would like for you to answer these questions.


What do you feel about Anax supposed result on TSS.

And

What do you think of TSS' defense of that result?

Originally Posted by zergon 1599200390 (#1687)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599200250 (#1686)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599199884 (#1680)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599199728 (#1678)

You don't believe that we should lynch an admitted liar?

Yeah, lukes has been aggressive with the defenses. Part of me wonders if that is a sane thing for a wolf to do. But if the flip turns red, I am guessing he won't be here for long.

If Anax would be wolf, why wouldn't he let me out the person I saw visiting him and gain informstion for his team and even potential mislynch?

That actually makes a lot of sense. The only theory I can come up with is both of you are in on it, but that is drifting towards tinfoil territory.

We really need to work our trust issues one day

Well, you haven't done anything scummy enough to ping my radar just yet. As soon as it does. I would be the first to vote.

Originally Posted by zergon 1599200121 (#1683)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599199728 (#1678)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599199270 (#1674)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599158468 (#1264)

Thinking he was trying to fish info and I kind of screwed that by being trigger happy. If he would be wolf he likely would have let me out the person targeting him and maybe even get a mislynch or two as I would have looked at least as bad as him

Morning, I skimmed the thread to get were we are now, some really interesting stuff happening. I need to reread later but just quoting my post last night as why I don't see Anaxagore as wolf so personally, I would look between TSS and Wayward on lynch target depending which result is more likely to be accurate. Also, lukess is working really hard to get back at top of my wolf list right after I decided to give him benefit of doubt.

You don't believe that we should lynch an admitted liar?

Yeah, lukes has been aggressive with the defenses. Part of me wonders if that is a sane thing for a wolf to do. But if the flip turns red, I am guessing he won't be here for long.

That's kind of why I decided to give him doubt last night, I started to wonder that if he and Wayward would be on same team, then wouldn't Wayward have told him in discord to tone his defense down? Now, same question would ably with TSS and Lukess but it's get kind of hard to ignore someone who argues against two differend night results as heavily as Lukess does.

Yeah, I agree. Isn't a night result supposed to be stronger against speculation? Yes, We could consider that there is a framer, we could consider that Anax lied on his results. But that is merely speculation until prove true. And iI don't think we can prove that unless we actually one or the other.

Originally Posted by WaywardSon 1599200176 (#1684)

Originally Posted by Leionhart 1599199728 (#1678)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599199270 (#1674)

Originally Posted by zergon 1599158468 (#1264)

Thinking he was trying to fish info and I kind of screwed that by being trigger happy. If he would be wolf he likely would have let me out the person targeting him and maybe even get a mislynch or two as I would have looked at least as bad as him

Morning, I skimmed the thread to get were we are now, some really interesting stuff happening. I need to reread later but just quoting my post last night as why I don't see Anaxagore as wolf so personally, I would look between TSS and Wayward on lynch target depending which result is more likely to be accurate. Also, lukess is working really hard to get back at top of my wolf list right after I decided to give him benefit of doubt.

You don't believe that we should lynch an admitted liar?

Yeah, lukes has been aggressive with the defenses. Part of me wonders if that is a sane thing for a wolf to do. But if the flip turns red, I am guessing he won't be here for long.

Which flip? Man I am so far behind.

TSS. I feel he defended TSS more strongly compared to you.