Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo1606459536
(#1662)
Thanks for the game Darr, good job villabros
@Ace Marvel when you are vigilante, you have to shoot unclear people, and the most unclear was Takhitty for his posts, not me.
If I had been scum, I would have voted for Pug after your vote, I had enough time to post twice and call a vote count, so I would have had time to vote for a dying partner for sure. That meant I didn't know he was mafia.
Usually shooting the counter wagon is the right mechanichal play for the vigi.
You are correct, but of all people I know Tak the best and thinking about it, he would be easier for me to read in the long run, luckily we got a red check.
However some of the stealthier bandits were able to sneak into the camp. The group awoke to find 2 dead, some belongings ransacked, and a wagon with a broken axle. One of the dead had been stabbed,
##Vote zergon
Im not buying that both N1 kills were made by town.
markisprettyok - The Emperor Astil - The Tower lukess1 - The Wheel of Fortune Destinylives - The Hanged Man zergon - Judgement Hydreigon25 - Temeperance BATMAN - The Devil ignoramus - Strength Eliphas - Justice Emark - Death Leionhart - The Magician
EternalPhoenix - The World DoubtingThomas - The Fool MLT - The Hierophant Esooa - The High Priestess Pugsgiving Feast - The Empress Ace Marvel - The Chariot
Kurosaki Ichigo - The Star Takhitty - The Moon Phoenix13 The Hermit
But that is a role thief, and so far is the first time someone was blocked, it could be, but let's remember this, in case we have more than one mafia left.
Not sure if weirdness but MLT and EternalPhoenix are still in the vote count?
If he is godfather, who blocked DoubtingThomas and why? The thief, stole the potion, but did not block the ability.
@markisprettyokay what did you get?
Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas1606271936
(#1441)
if I were a scum why would I out that you are my green check? like you believe that I knew you were town smith? why would I - a scum person - who apparently knows what role you are and see you kill people at night not just secretly try to kill you? why would I out that you are my green check so you are lock clear?
And you don't find it strange that the cop is still alive? Did you expect to make it this far?
1. I take care of the caravan. IIRC, I am the head guard.
2. I am finding mafia, just like all of you. If you listen to me, we kill the last mafia today, and deal with 3P after (if there even is).
3. Same as #2.
Ah yes, you are the cowardly guard right? Yeah I'm not buying it and I can see why others aren't either.
Didn't he say head guard not cowardly guard?s
I believe he mentioned being cowardly earlier in the phase.
There's literally nothing pointing to Thomas being town, except for those "checks".
There is nothing pointing at you being town.
In the good old days I'd be asking for a full role claim at this point but it looks like we may even be past that.
1. What do you do? 2. How can you help us? 3. Why should we keep you around?
1. I take care of the caravan. IIRC, I am the head guard.
2. I am finding mafia, just like all of you. If you listen to me, we kill the last mafia today, and deal with 3P after (if there even is).
3. Same as #2.
@Ace Marvel what do you think of Thomas placing a camp vote on Batman then leaving?
I lack an opinion, but have been shady for different reasons, but I don't think they are a team.
NonoI meant
Doesn't it make you go given Batman's claim?
For me Batman claim could be for all teams really, I've been in games were potions were given away by mafia, so I won't clear that slot based on that. And DoubtingThomas outing people is questionable.
Things I notice is that no one is making a counter wagon, so idk. I think you are doomed to die today.
@markisprettyok I know you took the potion, but what are your thoughts on Batman being against towns best interests?
Based purely on the potion, it is hard for me to see a health potion as a bad thing. I guess I could maybe see 3P if the potions are meant for self-use and not to be shared, but that would seem more survivor mechanic than say a SK.
don't forget that two people already claim vig shoots. So healing options can be useful for mafia too.
The fact that DoubtingThomas gave a green check to Hydro and myself, makes me think they are town. Why take me out of the voting pool, making it easier for town to eliminate mafia.
Just playing devil's advocate here. If you are scum and faking an investigative role, it would make sense to mix scum and town in your fake results.
DoubtingThomas knew my role, just not the actual action, and asking me to use it on them made me extremely suspicious and I have this feeling that something is off. But that would only mean that Hydre is mafia if this is a strategy. I really want to believe this is town motivated.
But then again I just do RNG and I'm useless to the solving of this game, so I will continue doing my thing.
The fact that DoubtingThomas gave a green check to Hydro and myself, makes me think they are town. Why take me out of the voting pool, making it easier for town to eliminate mafia.
Takhitty was eliminated. They were: Bandit Inside Man, Xavier the Unmatched.
Day 2 has ended.
Day 2 ended at 9:00 PM EST on Friday, November 20th, 2020.
So these are the votes at the end of the first two phases. HEre are a few things I'd like to point out.
On Pugs lynch I'm shocked Tak was the first vote.
Now I'm at least 1 other vote on Pug, and I'd guess the yare in the middle to blend in...So that's Mark, Me, Luke, and Esooa.
I'm betting there are at least 1 vote on Tak, right in the middle
Out of the six needed DoubtingThomas and Ace are the middle votes, and then after I placed the final vote needed, Zergon, Esooa, and ignoramous show up. Odd if you ask me as this was just a few hours before phase ended, almost like ... they wanted to make sure they were on the vote, but wanted others to actually make it happen..?
As for people on neither lynch of Bandit, we have. (I did not count people who were on Tak day 1)
Takhitty was eliminated. They were: Bandit Inside Man, Xavier the Unmatched.
Day 2 has ended.
Day 2 ended at 9:00 PM EST on Friday, November 20th, 2020.
So these are the votes at the end of the first two phases. HEre are a few things I'd like to point out.
On Pugs lynch I'm shocked Tak was the first vote.
Now I'm at least 1 other vote on Pug, and I'd guess the yare in the middle to blend in...So that's Mark, Me, Luke, and Esooa.
I'm betting there are at least 1 vote on Tak, right in the middle
Out of the six needed DoubtingThomas and Ace are the middle votes, and then after I placed the final vote needed, Zergon, Esooa, and ignoramous show up. Odd if you ask me as this was just a few hours before phase ended, almost like ... they wanted to make sure they were on the vote, but wanted others to actually make it happen..?
As for people on neither lynch of Bandit, we have. (I did not count people who were on Tak day 1)
And @markisprettyok why did you steal from people you read as town?
You have that backwards.
Also, I'm trying to use my ability to gain information, why would I choose the outed blacksmith?
Ok you get information, but at the same time you are stealing abilities from town people and Astil N1 is an extremely weird choice. This could mean you are town yes, but you are not helping, because we depend on those a abilities, if Batman is infact town, the potion is lost, because you get it with a lesser extent of success, and my hammer could give you a vig shot or at least a percentage of it.
So is not stealing from the outed, is stealing to become a JOAT, imo.
And @markisprettyok why did you steal from people you read as town?
You have that backwards.
Also, I'm trying to use my ability to gain information, why would I choose the outed blacksmith?
Ok you get information, but at the same time you are stealing abilities from town people and Astil N1 is an extremely weird choice. This could mean you are town yes, but you are not helping, because we depend on those a abilities, if Batman is infact town, the potion is lost, because you get it with a lesser extent of success, and my hammer could give you a vig shot or at least a percentage of it.
So is not stealing from the outed, is stealing to become a JOAT, imo.
Originally Posted by markisprettyok1606067052
(#1088)
I'm just going to go ahead and do this as my luck is bound to catch up to me, and it can help put others in a good light. I'm not going to out anyone's information, but I will say who.
I'm the thief and yes I'm town. I can steal both day and night (or protect the caravan). From my understanding there is a percentage chance that I will get caught each time (I don't know the numbers) and it is higher if I steal during the day. So far I have been incredibly lucky, but as I intend to continue to use my ability both night and day, it is likely that I will get caught at some point. Again, from my understanding, it sounds like if I get caught then I turn miller. I am not miller right now, I repeat, I am not miller right now. Also, I don't believe myself to be referenced in the N1 write up, I think that was bandit stuff.
The way my role works is a little different than a traditional thief that I can get an ability, item, or information, or some combination.
So what have I been up to? If you've been paying attention to my posts and/or lists, you probably have an idea. I have no idea if these people are notified of missing items or not.
D1: DestinyLives - Stole some coins and found out their job. This is why I have him as strong town.
N1: Astil - Stole an item giving me a 50/50 chance at something mostly positive. This is why I have him as town lean.
D2: BATMAN - I can corroborate what he's said, though the potion I got only gives me a 25% success rate. Item seems more townie than not, so I have them as town.
N2: Esooa - Only got a family heirloom and that is all, but it seems valuable if anyone is interested in purchasing it.
I haven't done today yet, but will soon. Just wanted to get ahead of this.
Right, lets make a read list again so that I can go recheck after the game just how badly I was wrong this time:
Likely town
lukess1
MLT
Ace Marvel
town lean:
DoubtingThomas
markisprettyok
Astil
Destinylives
Hydreigon25
BATMAN
neutral:
Phoenix13
Emark
EternalPhoenix
likely wolf:
ignoramus
Right, from the top group, pretty sure they at least aren´t bandits, could still in theory be third party assuming that exists (except maybe lukess unless there´s a good reason why third party would have aligment cop).
On the second group, this is too big for my liking and I don´t believe all the non-towns being in the bottom four so pretty sure there´s at least one non-town here. That said, no idea who and I have various reasons to currently believe they all could be town so here they are for time being.
Third group is pretty much "not enough information to form solid opinion" group, need to solve them evetually somehow.
As for Ignoramus, I´m starting to think she´s wolf as she was defended by Pugs early on, didn´t have her vote on either Takhitty or Pugs at the end of day 1 and had almost complete 180 turn on her BATMAN read during day 2 so this is were I will put my vote currently.
##Vote ignoramus
@ignoramus
Who are your strongest town leans at the moment?
What about strongest wolf reads?
markisprettyok - The Emperor Astil - The Tower lukess1 - The Wheel of Fortune Destinylives - The Hanged Man zergon - Judgement Hydreigon25 - Temeperance BATMAN - The Devil ignoramus - Strength
Eliphas - Justice
Emark - Death Leionhart - The Magician EternalPhoenix - The World DoubtingThomas - The Fool MLT - The Hierophant Esooa - The High Priestess Pugsgiving Feast - The Empress Ace Marvel - The Chariot Kurosaki Ichigo - The Star Takhitty - The Moon Phoenix13 The Hermit
Okay so everyone is town then.
I don't have meta in most if any of you, so I can't use that.
If we follow my meta I'm never mafia and I die N3, 99%. Which honestly does not clear me.
What I'm feeling right now is that a lot of players are clearing suspects without giving a new one, so the discussion closes.
And about the potion steal, it can go the same why as to me not claiming 1 shot, and then saying I didn't kill anyone N2 because my hammer was stolen. And why would mafia need a potion that you specify you only used 50% of? And that would means that you had half of a potion, so you wouldn't need to craft a new one, since you had already one, and I'm having a hard time believing that you not voting in a game that need 1/3 to even kill someone a requirement for your actions, unless you are a third party, that you are clearly not, because at this point you should claim it, because mafia would limit their pool of potential killings, and you have new allies. So that leave me with the impression that you are simply mafia.
Why reveal Tak as the vig?
Why remove your vote before it was secure?
I think the plan was to move votes away from pugs to take, because he is a low poster and you didn't expect people to change votes, but when the two wagons were created, mafia need to work with that, and now is clear that having an inside man was more important.
Since I don't have any chat, I assume that if we have masons, it's the adventurers guild, so maybe Tak was part of the chat. idk.
People are saying Batman would not buss a player, well I can't say the same, so taking that out, I honestly can see how this is helping town in the slightest.
I said mark is mafia, and no one sees that
I said Batman is mafia and an army come to Batman's defense.
So @BATMAN if you somehow are really town, who is pocketing you? Because someone is stoping us from having a candidate.
Originally Posted by Kurosaki Ichigo
given Batman's claim?