##Vote Imarevenant
Type: Posts; User: MLT
##Vote Imarevenant
Not sure, I've just seen it as "masons" but I'm guessing it could be neighbors.
I feel like I just answered this. I've seen games with both masons 1 is town the other is not, sooooo for me the only person I completely trust is TH, but ddlc isn't at the top of the list of people I'd get rid of. So this whole question is pointless and I'm not sure why I had to answer it for the second time in less than an hour.Yes destiny will bus.I've been in games where one mason is town the other is not, this probably isn't one of them, but still IN MY OPINION the only confirmed town is TH, still stands so..I have been wanting his head ever since i made that post about wallbanger + rev.
I never thought whether he could be sk because scum is scum
@Imarevenant does destiny bus?
He claimed mason though soI'm here, and we still have a little bit of time.So Yeah.
Yeah, no the only confirmed town right now is TH. But nice try though.
You don't think ddlc is confirmed?
I've been in games where one mason is town the other is not, this probably isn't one of them, but still IN MY OPINION the only confirmed town is TH, still stands so..I have been wanting his head ever since i made that post about wallbanger + rev.If rev is SK last mafia is probably igno for snap voting him and parking thereI don't think you're wrong about Rev, I think he's the serial killer@Kurosaki Ichigo
if i'm wrong on rev you have my permission to tunnel me until the end of the game
lemme prove i've got the godreads
I never thought whether he could be sk because scum is scum
@Imarevenant does destiny bus?I'd replace myself with Destiny, but that's just me. Town can afford my mis-elimination and at the very lest you reduce your POE's.
But reconsider Destiny, and ask him to make actual reads. I haven't seen one from him this game yet. He sat on Syn in the early game when DJ and others also pointed out the difference in Syn's game. From there it's all been confirmation of others reads, a go with the flow style gameplay that isn't Destiny's town meta. There has also been a preoccupation with how others are reading him.
##Vote Destinylives
He claimed mason though soI'm here, and we still have a little bit of time.
Yeah, no the only confirmed town right now is TH. But nice try though.
I'm here, and we still have a little bit of time.
Yeah, no the only confirmed town right now is TH. But nice try though.
Look, why are we trying to no lynch ?
That helps town ZERO percent.
It's more likely that both the SK and the wolf target town. As there are more town than not left.What would be the more likely scenario to happen though ?
SK targets a wolf & wolf targets sk ?
SK & wolf both target 1 townie each ?
the wolf targets a townie but the Sk targets a wolf ?
something else happens ?
Maybe, why Not?
SK?
ignoramus
Imarevenant
Kurosaki Ichigo
Marluxion
I feel two of these are the final people we need to get rid of.
I'm on board with Rev being SK, and Igno is my top lean for Scum.
I'd be more worried if the person they were on wasn't wolf, or if a vote didn't happen because they didn't move the vote.
This strikes me as odd right now.
It's rough, because at this point we have a bunch of VT claims. There should only be 9 total in the game, so we can't all be VT...I must admit that I felt a great responsibility because any mistake made would have weakened the village so much.I town read you first because we paired together last game, but as the game progressed, I feel I got a different vibe from you this game than last game, that could also be that we were masons last game and tried to keep ourselves from losing since we'd die together, but I'm not sure.I'm sorry you lost your quotes, I know how annoying is.
I want to understand your progression in reading me, please tell me why you town read me first and why you put me in the Poe
##Unvote MLT
No pressure, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt
Please ask me if you have any questions for me
I do feel better about you since you're talking with me about it.
What do you think of the ones who were talking about a quick lynch?
I town read you first because we paired together last game, but as the game progressed, I feel I got a different vibe from you this game than last game, that could also be that we were masons last game and tried to keep ourselves from losing since we'd die together, but I'm not sure.I'm sorry you lost your quotes, I know how annoying is.
I want to understand your progression in reading me, please tell me why you town read me first and why you put me in the Poe
##Unvote MLT
No pressure, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt
I had a bunch of things quoted on Mobile, and my browser crashed, so I'm not going back to requote them.
I've claimed VT since probably day 2.
Instead of saying "MLT looks bad" Why not say WHY I do? Because I pushed TH in the early game? I didn't believe their claim and I said why. No person would claim BP day 1, it's insane, but apparently it happened this game.
Once I knew MArk was telling the truth I backed down, other than that please tell me why I look bad, otherwise go ahead and do your little quick lynch waste more than 24 hour of a day phase and see you're losing a town here.
I'll be honest with you, I'm happy to let this finish out. We only have three hours left, and that's not a super long time to go with it...so.
##Vote Syn
Imarevenant Since you're here and haven't had much to say this phase, any reads on who the lynch should be today
Gotcha, I just read you saying you didn't want a hammer today, and phase is over in a few hours.
Are you saying you don't want a lynch today?
Same, just seems a little to much like being led by the nose, for my comfort.
The flip flopping really concerns me.
Sorry I misunderstood your comment, I took it as I was full of $%#!.what lolSo we can't have an actual discussion, we resort to silly comments like this?
Good to know, I'll happily put my vote on you for the phase, but it will be later as I don't want a rush of votes to happen.
I was making a joke about you saying your gut reads were bad
because you take pepto bismol for a bad gut? yeah? ha ha?
But yes the joke was funny now that I get it from that perspective.
Sorry for that.
So we can't have an actual discussion, we resort to silly comments like this?
Good to know, I'll happily put my vote on you for the phase, but it will be later as I don't want a rush of votes to happen.
It's been known for bussing to happen, though I'll admit I'm more apt to vote Syn, over you for that reason.
Sorry this is my first post of day phase. I fell asleep about an hour after phase came up, and just finished a stream so I'm here for a bit.
I'm concerned Rev hasn't said anything, but real life could be getting to him.
Sad to see my gut feeling was wrong but MArk says they are green, so nothing I can do about that.
Now the Syn/Luke wagons up, I'm fine with either, and I'm glad we are taking the time needed to really figure things out.
I still have a bad vibe about Destiny, but my gut hasn't been right this game so I'll leave it for the moment.
Going by how a game can be set up, you two both can't be telling the truth. So do you trust Esooa?
this is also basically outing because lukess is currently doing something similar to what SS did and needs to emotionally justify itwow you are embarrassed as such a foolThat makes her game soooooo much worse then. Gonna try to stop tunneling as I want to actually have fun again so ##Vote Wallbanger. I'm also still very wary of mal as I have laid out before the stuff hit the fan tonight.IF this $%#! isn't addressed I'm done with this site.
I've read that you're not suppose to talk about being taken out of a game...Yet here Esooa is like "I won't be here tomorrow' Knowing damn well they aren't getting lynched, and if they are a BP, the only way they won't be here is if they are being replaced, which If I remember correctly is against the rules, at least that's what people did to Paws..
Also. Calling people fools, can you stop with the $%#!ing name calling? I'm sick of these teen age antics. ARe you $%#!ing 12?
Oh and scumreading Esooa is "bull$%#!" LOL Even more examples of being told we should not have the reads we have.Be glad my slot isn't pushing you today lol.two of the people engaging in this bull$%#! are two of my 4 person solve. It's not a coincidence
How about this. When I die either by scum hands (unlikely) or lynched, and I turn up VT, they can lynch you next?
What should I do with someone I wolf read? Ignore them? So far anyone who's voted on Esooa have been called a bad player, or cringe, and blah blah blah.I'm telling you to wolf read who you want, what are you even saying? That's exactly what I told you to do. If you're going to be unnecessarily hostile just because I disagree with your tunnel and put words into my mouth then you're the person at fault.So I can't wolf lean Esooa because "it's a dumb idea and she's obviously not lying on the third ability she's said she has and you obviously don't know she was joking on the first two roles she claimed"
No..
Sorry
I'll wolf lean anyone I feel is wolf. I'm not sorry it doesn't fit who you think I should wolf lean, but honestly I don't care what you THINK I should read today.
But just because you wolf read somebody it does not mean you should vote them. Wolf reading Esooa is valid. I disagree strongly but it is valid and an acceptable opinion. Chopping Esooa today is just a bad play and if there's even a small chance that Esooa is town then chopping her today is honestly just gamethrowing.
I've pointed out how scum can manipulate a fake claim, and have been told I'm "misunderstanding it"
So I can't wolf lean Esooa because "it's a dumb idea and she's obviously not lying on the third ability she's said she has and you obviously don't know she was joking on the first two roles she claimed"
No..
Sorry
I'll wolf lean anyone I feel is wolf. I'm not sorry it doesn't fit who you think I should wolf lean, but honestly I don't care what you THINK I should read today.
It gives scum an easier chance of winning the game.Actually, in this case it would just be a slightly worse town read. So a town lean.What's the opposite of a townread? If you don't townread someone, what are they? Hmm?
Let me ask you something. What good is a day 1 outed bulletproof? IF for some reason they are telling the truth, they've cost the lives of at least 1 other person by playing the role very strangely.
A Day 1 putted bulletproof has the potential to mechanically conform themselves like I've been trying to explain. Imagine a Townsperson who can't be chopped or nightkilled, that's the benefit of Esooa's role come later on.
What's the opposite of a townread? If you don't townread someone, what are they? Hmm?
Let me ask you something. What good is a day 1 outed bulletproof? IF for some reason they are telling the truth, they've cost the lives of at least 1 other person by playing the role very strangely.
I never said I dislike her as a person, but comments have been made about how other people vote.
Unless I have other reasons to vote elsewhere my vote will remain on Esooa as well.
I just went back and read the page, and yes scum have a way to figure out the town roles, as it's a chess move with the knight. They can look at their own role, and deduce that the next role is 1 of three or four roles...So they have a chance to claim a role that isn't there, because they either get counter claimed or the PRs decide to keep quite because they didn't read how the set up works.
So the fact I'm being told I'm misunderstanding how the set up works makes me leery of this whole thing in the long run.
Sorry but Esooa can be lying and Scum would know based on their roles....so I still stand with my gut feeling that Esooa is lying.
Yeah I've noticed a trend of GDS players being called names...
Let me ask a question, if I'm reading the "PR" table right, scum would know their roles, which will help them narrow down what town PRs are in the game, yes? Which makes a fake claim way easier for them....No?
So in a game based on reads we should wait for the PRs to out themselves? Seems legit.Okay but why do we need to resolve this today? If you're right, wait for one power role to either die or claim for other reasons and then if there is still another PR alive they should claim and we get Esooa. There's zero reason for is to chop her today even if we thought she was scum (and honestly I'm vouching hard on her being town here).
Imagine the world if Esooa is actually town and you're trying to chop an unkillable townie when we wouldn't even need to consider chopping until late game anyway... that would end in disaster.
And it would be a really bad play for Esooa to claim BPV as wolf for the reasons you were arguing Esooa wouldn't do it as town... but it would be ten times worse if Esooa were a wolf because she might just get immediately counterclaimed and die.
How is it a bad play? If there is a BP and they counter, people are more likely to believe Esooa because she claimed first..and "wolves" were trying to get rid of her. It's happened so many times.
As for "they don't do this as town" Sorry but I'm not going to rely on her play in other areas of the site, as it doesn't have any barring on THIS game, or the group they are playing with now.
If there are two PRs in the game, what is stopping wolves from claiming one day 1 and having both PRs step forward and counter? That's exactly why the game would be lost. Yet here we are because I don't believe a BP exists in the game.
You're "obviously" one of them. No you're not "obviously" one of them. Just because you say you're one doesn't mean you are.it's semi open. There's guaranteed two prs. I'm obviously one of them. Flips on scum/other prs can prove it. I'm honestly over all of this though
You may be over it, but honestly I still think you're lying.
Can you point out to me where there is a guarantee Bp?
How are you positive a BP exists in the game?
How do I say this nicely. I don't care if people believe me.
Why would a town claim bulletproof day 1? They were not getting lynched, yet decided to ruin the reason for the claim. A GOOOD bulletproof townie would draw scum to target them at least night 1, but instead they've ruined the chances of that. So either they are lying, or they are a terrible player.
So...wait...Me not counter claiming them means I have to believe them? The hell kinda logic is that?
Honestly, not really because I don't pay much attention to the claim posts because I DON'T BELIEVE YOU.
I'd go for Wallbanger, but I'd still feel that Esooa is scum.
Also a claimed Mason, and claimed wolf. But ya know I could hard claim PR too, does that make you trust me? I don't feel confident that someone claims a PR day 1 and they were not killed night 1. So forgive me, but their claim seems flimsy at best IMO.
I have done this. As wolf, I have also pushed for using all the time to "gather information" I also do this as town.As a mod, I've seen her go HARD at some townies before. Specifically using policy eliminating as a reason.my main reason to town read MLT was "they wouldn't do aggressively wrong as scum"
From my experience, Destiny has a tendency to stick his neck out for his team too often, either by defending, redirecting, or avoiding. From what I've seen this phase, he seems to almost be avoiding the Wallbanger direction. Assuming Wallbanger is scum, I'd think Destiny is too. MLT has a tendency to immediately go on the defense when she's scum and called out with little info. I genuinely didn't like her immediate vote on Esooa, so I took the chance to prod and didn't like her response.
what do you think of that
Or I'm not.okay. They're probably scum then tbhAs a mod, I've seen her go HARD at some townies before. Specifically using policy eliminating as a reason.my main reason to town read MLT was "they wouldn't do aggressively wrong as scum"
From my experience, Destiny has a tendency to stick his neck out for his team too often, either by defending, redirecting, or avoiding. From what I've seen this phase, he seems to almost be avoiding the Wallbanger direction. Assuming Wallbanger is scum, I'd think Destiny is too. MLT has a tendency to immediately go on the defense when she's scum and called out with little info. I genuinely didn't like her immediate vote on Esooa, so I took the chance to prod and didn't like her response.
what do you think of that
So because I reevaluated and still came up with the fact I think your WOLF! I should die? Well how sweet of you.
Vanity wagon? You know, I would like to say that these stupid comments are making the game not fun. I've seen the backhanded comments at others, maybe you should grow up and get over yourself. You think because you've played here longer, or you're "friends" with a lot of the players, you're oh so cool, well you're not. Try talking to people without taking shots at them.
I get a gut feeling of them being scummy. I don't like the comments by them and a few other people, but mostly my gut says scum.
ddlcfan69
Esooa
Kurosaki Ichigo
Wallbanger
So these are the four people I have bad vibes from. I'll admit I'm not great at picking up hints or game play via no power role, but I go off gut till I find something more, and right now gut says these four.
I read you as scum, does that make it fact? Or is it just your reads we should take as fact?
I think this is the best post of the game.
IF they aren't town, what are they then? Are you saying they are Mason? Hasn't the other Mason ousted themselves?DO NOT TOWNREAD =\= SCUMREAD
You're going to give me a $%#!ing aneurysm
I'm about to start my stream, I'll give a list of how I feel on each player in about 4 hours. I will keep my vote on Esooa as I feel they are scum, so based on other peoples perspective of reads. That makes my read about 85 percent legit.
You know me, this is how I play. I said I'm VT so your vote is fine where it is I suppose.That is some serious hair-splitting.All I know is that 'lean good' is not even a town claim.
As a villager, for yourself you should be lock town because you are the only one who knows this for sure.
'Lean' implies uncertainty.
It may be a play style thing, but small details can make a difference and I had to talk about it.
I want details for your read for me, MLT and Rev, please. And Marluxion.
Rev hasn't said much, so it is hard to get a good read. Also I want him dead, so that tends to cloud things.
MLT with the quick vote on Esooa followed by the reaction to my vote.
You, I think I may have gotten your posts and Marl's posts mixed up, so I'm going to have to go back through the last phase to make sure I have them properly sorted in my mind.
As for the vote on Esooa, I'm happy to have it there. I dislike their play from last phase. I also said if something better comes along, I'll move it, but for now it's where my vote is and I'm happy with it.
I do...I don’t feel they are.So you don't care if they are town or not?Their whole attitude towards anyone who voted them, or voted against what they said, makes me get bad vibes from them. It's what I have to go on, and I'll stick to that.You're not doing yourself any favors here. I think it was pretty evident that they weren't being serious. For now I choose to believe Esooa is townie, therefore I'm going to assume they are telling the truth as it clearly wasn't a joke.
I'm in agreement with SS here about the whole "you're being mean so I won't play" bit it's old, tired, and kills a game quickly.
Their whole attitude towards anyone who voted them, or voted against what they said, makes me get bad vibes from them. It's what I have to go on, and I'll stick to that.You're not doing yourself any favors here. I think it was pretty evident that they weren't being serious. For now I choose to believe Esooa is townie, therefore I'm going to assume they are telling the truth as it clearly wasn't a joke.
I'm in agreement with SS here about the whole "you're being mean so I won't play" bit it's old, tired, and kills a game quickly.
I miss the good ole days of LaLs
Cool. I'm a VT, so you won't lose a PR here. Though I guess I could claim to be a mason, BP, vig, Princess. Then you'd believe me right?
Were they? Because I don't tend to believe anyone that continues to lie about their claims. Sorry they did this to themselves.
My vote will stay where it is.
Originally Posted by Imarevenant
