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  1. #74

    Thread: Pantheon Mash

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    Experimental Scare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scare (#71)
    I can't say no to my favorite hosts

    I'm in
    ##Vote Scare
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    Sticky: Completed I mean, yeah, sure. It just felt like the perfect...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#9898)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#9895)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hally (#9892)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#9891)
    So, who won the vote?
    we don’t know yet
    So why the Podcast?
    Thingyman and Lissa are two different people.
    I mean, yeah, sure. It just felt like the perfect place for the reveal. From an outsiders perspective who had had no time to watch the podcast. So I am honestly surprised.
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    Sticky: Completed So why the Podcast? :cantlook:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hally (#9892)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#9891)
    So, who won the vote?
    we don’t know yet
    So why the Podcast?
  4. #260

    Thread: Hydra Event 2020!

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    Sticky: Angrypotato and I will be back as EmperorPotato

    @Angrypotato and I will be back as @EmperorPotato
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    Sticky: Completed So, who won the vote?

    So, who won the vote?
  6. #69

    Thread: Pantheon Mash

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    Experimental You guys are really trying hard to make the wolf...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#63)
    This has been extended to 54 players!!!
    You guys are really trying hard to make the wolf team big enough for me to be forced into it, eh?
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    Thread: Pantheon Mash

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    Experimental Welcome to the wolf team, Ondine, we got cookies....

    Quote Originally Posted by ondine (#48)
    /in
    Welcome to the wolf team, Ondine, we got cookies. Like always.
  8. #47

    Thread: Pantheon Mash

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    Experimental /in for the inevitable wolf rand that completely...

    /in for the inevitable wolf rand that completely drains my want to play the game for months to come and makes me question my every life decision.
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    Completed I guess that was a no then.... :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#6522)
    I guess that was a no then....
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    Completed Also queued post not working smh smh

    Also queued post not working smh smh
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    Completed Good game for town, maybe the first Mafia Sweep...

    Good game for town, maybe the first Mafia Sweep in the history of the Champs games, at least. Day 1 was already extremely rough for the wolves, and the track on SilverKeith N1 was brutal.

    That being said I am not even sure if any of you wants a flavour epilogue as I did with the Chess game, but if people are interested I can reveal who randed which character flavour-wise at the very least. The flavour this time was unfortunately planned around a long game...

    ...Anyways, I will be awake in a few hours and hope to have gotten some feedback from you guys until then.
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    Hm, so if I get this straight, several current...

    Hm, so if I get this straight, several current year Champs players (including advancers) and former Finalist Empoof need mentoring regarding their Mafia skills?

    Checks out.
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    I regret not joining this; congratulations to all...

    I regret not joining this; congratulations to all the participants though, especially to the winners!

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    By the way, when was this part abandoned here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaleb (#1)
    Ever seen a post game where someone makes a giant post yelling at X, Y, Z for making a terrible play throughout the game? Ever wanted to reuse it in another game cause of how funny and universal it was?

    Well, here is the best place to look/add so you'll never lose them again. Will find some and add them as I see people make them in future games.

    Please remember to remove names of players mentioned when posting. (Unless you're calling them goat ofc)
    By the way, when was this part abandoned here?
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    This game might have the harshest SOD/EOD times...

    This game might have the harshest SOD/EOD times for European players that I have seen in a mash so far. I think that I will abstain this time.
  16. Okay, to get back on topic, maybe I should...

    Okay, to get back on topic, maybe I should summarize my thoughts in a shorter, cleaner, more condensed fashion to make it clear what my personal opinion on this matter is.

    1) MU is a place where everyone should feel welcome and nobody needs to fear that they are mistreated by others.
    2) To achieve this, the users need to treat each other with respect and if some users refuse to do so, they should be moderated in some form of way.
    3) Words that are always, in every way, and without a doubt, hurtful, should be banned entirely. Those are slurs and insults, phrases that marginalise people, foster hate and discrimination.
    4) Words and phrazes that can hurt some people depending on context shall be treated with care, if people tell others not to use them towards them or in a certain way these demands should be met or the person refusing to comply should be moderated.
    5) Nobody is expected to know all words that fall into category 4), and it is unfeasible to create a whole category for these or even outright ban them from usage. If one accidentally says something hurtful and then apologises after being informed about it I see no reason for any kind of moderation. On the other hand, using a category 3) word is much more problematic and should always be followed by some sort of moderation (if only a talk with a moderator)
    6) Yet, if people deliberately continue using them after being told to stop then this is problematic behaviour. This is no longer acceptable behaviour and makes MU an unwelcoming place.
    7) In general, it should be allowed that people talk about why certain words fall into the category 4) without being ridiculed, made fun of and ignored. This is bad faith behaviour and again against what MU wants to stand for.
    8) Mods should take people seriously when instances of that kind are brought fourth.

    I think that these are reasonable points, but if somebody disagrees with them I am open to discussion. And for Makaze, $%#! falls into the category 4) in my personal opinion, not category 3).
  17. My point still stands that the issue at hand is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#120)
    Quote Originally Posted by Secondhand Revenant (#118)
    What exactly are you thinking Lan suggested? Because what you just said seems entirely off the mark to what message I'm getting from him
    Lan bringing up that example as similar could be interpreted as seeing the reasoning as similar or that Lan does not see the distinction.

    I have not made a comment on the suggestion other than to point out that similarity is not accurate.
    My point still stands that the issue at hand is not which word is worse than the other, but that people use words knowingly to hurt, insult and marginalise people.
  18. Also my apologies to Dya, I clearly misunderstood...

    Also my apologies to Dya, I clearly misunderstood her post, it seems. My point stands though that this thread is not (or not in my eyes) about a word, but about behavioural patterns of part of the community. Technical implementations of profanity filters might help, but won't solve the issue that I see at the core of the problem.
  19. Question for you: Does it make a difference, in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Makaze (#116)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#109)
    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth (#107)
    In the Netherlands, diseases (especially cancer and typhus) are used as curse words. there’s nothing wrong with using ‘$%#!’ in regular speech, it’s just a term, people use it because $%#! sucks and it’s entered popular consciousness. the $%#! epidemic (pandemic) in the 20th century killed MILLIONS of people - thats why people use it as a curse word, it has nothing to do with its social history

    i dont even use the word myself, but it is just a disease, a very dangerous one that has killed many people, no reason not to use it as a curse word
    same thing with cancer. it’s a horrible disease and I seriously doubt whether anyone with cancer would give a $%#! if you used the word as an insult - hell, they probably would!

    I’m staunchly against restriction of speech - it is almost always a bad idea
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#108)
    The only real problem i see with banning the word is that there are legitimate other uses. Like something $%#! another person. So censoring that isn't necessarily a good solution.

    I think we should treat it like we do certain other words and moderate when we see it used as a perjorative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#109)
    I don’t have anything to say on this that hasn’t already been said, but is there a list that I could see of words that appear on the filter?
    I'm glad that we are already back at the stage where the original idea/problem behind this thread was forgotten and we go back to the discussion of "How bad is saying $%#!"?

    I think that I speak for most people who are genuinely concerned here that this is not a topic about censoring language or forbidding words. It's about how people treat other people.

    To get back to my example: I used the word "trap" in a way that might hurt people. Not because the word itself is bad - if I had talked about an elaborate trap in a game, no feelings would have been hurt. But because I used it in a way that hurt transgender people, since "trap" is often seen as a negative word, claiming that these people try to "trap" straight people. A word that killers of trans people have used in the past to justify their actions.

    Coming back to $%#!: This is a word which has strong connotations with a lot of people, because of the $%#! epidemic mostly. Thus it is a word which has strong meaning to many and to many people being called $%#! is an extremely sensitive topic. They obviously don't want to ban people from talking about the illness themselves, nor do they want to forbid sentences like "Tom $%#! Paula in building a sandcastle", and I am astonished that those are things actually brought up here in this context, since it shows a lot of ignorance to the pleas that were made here. What they want is that people are no longer allowed to wield those words as a weapon to hurt other people, intentionally or unintentionally (and looking at some posts that were made already, many of them the former way). And this is not limited to this one word, nor should it be - this is about reforming how people treat each other, not to play a game of "Whack-A-Mole" around trigger words.

    The main issue in my eyes is: Why do people use words knowingly to hurt other people. Why don't they stop using these words once others tell them that, and why, they are hurt by these words? What shall be done with people who refuse not to hurt other people using words citing their amendmends to be assholes towards others? And how should mods react in this case?

    As far as I remember, one part of the MU site rules states that this is supposed to be a community where everyone should feel at home and feel safe. I hereby humbly ask the moderators to fulfill their own promise. I joined two years ago, it's about time we actually got to it.
    Speaking as a user here.

    Trap is a slur that applies to people. $%#! is the official name of a disease. Trap makes something that is a matter of identity seem sinister or harmful. $%#! describes a condition that is involuntary and which does harm to the person affected by it. That distinction is important whether you believe it should be banned or not because it is always offensive to refer to a person as a trap, but it is not always offensive to note that someone has $%#!. If you lose sight of this you will end up stigmatizing $%#! more than the trolls would.
    Question for you: Does it make a difference, in your personal opinion if somebody:

    1) Calls another person a slur knowing that they are a part of a marginalised group
    2) Calls another person a word that is not commonly a slur but that said person explicitly asked the first person not to say towards them since it triggers them

    To me, both are the same kind of $%#!ty behaviour with the intent of hurting somebody. And if you read my post, or if you reread it again, you will notice that I protest against this kind of behaviour - not for or against using a certain word. Obviously, if you personally think that 2) is less harmful than 1) then that is your opinion, but this is what I wanted to express, not what you think I wanted to express.
  20. What are you bringing to the conversation at hand...

    Quote Originally Posted by FaitAccompli (#113)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#111)
    Quote Originally Posted by FaitAccompli (#110)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#109)
    It's about how people treat other people.



    shows a lot of ignorance

    What level discussion did you want while calling people ignorant, anyway?
    Let me rephrase it as "(potentially willfully) misunderstanding" and stop ignoring the point itself.
    How do you know what their motives are?

    You a mind reader.. if so your win record here must be amazing.
    What are you bringing to the conversation at hand right now?
  21. Let me rephrase it as "(potentially willfully)...

    Quote Originally Posted by FaitAccompli (#110)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#109)
    It's about how people treat other people.



    shows a lot of ignorance

    What level discussion did you want while calling people ignorant, anyway?
    Let me rephrase it as "(potentially willfully) misunderstanding" and stop ignoring the point itself.
  22. I'm glad that we are already back at the stage...

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth (#107)
    In the Netherlands, diseases (especially cancer and typhus) are used as curse words. there’s nothing wrong with using ‘$%#!’ in regular speech, it’s just a term, people use it because $%#! sucks and it’s entered popular consciousness. the $%#! epidemic (pandemic) in the 20th century killed MILLIONS of people - thats why people use it as a curse word, it has nothing to do with its social history

    i dont even use the word myself, but it is just a disease, a very dangerous one that has killed many people, no reason not to use it as a curse word
    same thing with cancer. it’s a horrible disease and I seriously doubt whether anyone with cancer would give a $%#! if you used the word as an insult - hell, they probably would!

    I’m staunchly against restriction of speech - it is almost always a bad idea
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#108)
    The only real problem i see with banning the word is that there are legitimate other uses. Like something $%#! another person. So censoring that isn't necessarily a good solution.

    I think we should treat it like we do certain other words and moderate when we see it used as a perjorative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#109)
    I don’t have anything to say on this that hasn’t already been said, but is there a list that I could see of words that appear on the filter?
    I'm glad that we are already back at the stage where the original idea/problem behind this thread was forgotten and we go back to the discussion of "How bad is saying $%#!"?

    I think that I speak for most people who are genuinely concerned here that this is not a topic about censoring language or forbidding words. It's about how people treat other people.

    To get back to my example: I used the word "trap" in a way that might hurt people. Not because the word itself is bad - if I had talked about an elaborate trap in a game, no feelings would have been hurt. But because I used it in a way that hurt transgender people, since "trap" is often seen as a negative word, claiming that these people try to "trap" straight people. A word that killers of trans people have used in the past to justify their actions.

    Coming back to $%#!: This is a word which has strong connotations with a lot of people, because of the $%#! epidemic mostly. Thus it is a word which has strong meaning to many and to many people being called $%#! is an extremely sensitive topic. They obviously don't want to ban people from talking about the illness themselves, nor do they want to forbid sentences like "Tom $%#! Paula in building a sandcastle", and I am astonished that those are things actually brought up here in this context, since it shows a lot of ignorance to the pleas that were made here. What they want is that people are no longer allowed to wield those words as a weapon to hurt other people, intentionally or unintentionally (and looking at some posts that were made already, many of them the former way). And this is not limited to this one word, nor should it be - this is about reforming how people treat each other, not to play a game of "Whack-A-Mole" around trigger words.

    The main issue in my eyes is: Why do people use words knowingly to hurt other people. Why don't they stop using these words once others tell them that, and why, they are hurt by these words? What shall be done with people who refuse not to hurt other people using words citing their amendmends to be assholes towards others? And how should mods react in this case?

    As far as I remember, one part of the MU site rules states that this is supposed to be a community where everyone should feel at home and feel safe. I hereby humbly ask the moderators to fulfill their own promise. I joined two years ago, it's about time we actually got to it.
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    Long time ago, a person misread my first name,...

    Long time ago, a person misread my first name, due to my shoddy handwriting, and addressed me as "Lan" instead of [redacted].

    Some time later a different person misread my handwriting again and wrote down my last name as "Misa" instead of [redacted].

    So LanMisa is basically my name in shoddy handwriting? Does this make it my real name or a fantasy one?
  24. I remember, back in 2018, I used the word "trap"...

    I remember, back in 2018, I used the word "trap" in a jokey context.

    Not half a day later I got a message from Lute, explaining to me why the word was insensitive and who I would end up hurting if I kept using it, in an understanding and helpful, easy to understand way.

    I immediately apologised and rewrote my original post to cut out the word and replace it with something inoffensive.

    Not sure what I want to say with this, but this is how I wish those things would be handled by both mods and users.
  25. I'm behind Ondine and Bear on this one.

    I'm behind Ondine and Bear on this one.
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    Sticky: An Admin, a former Mod and a regular enter a...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1868)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#1856)
    Confirming providing flavour for Game 3.

    Which will ironically be about Persona 3.

    And contain Silverkeith who was top three in Champs two years ago.

    He's also a player with Persona themed Avatars

    Coincidence? I don't think so.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#1861)
    yo i'm hosting g1

    looking forward to running the g7 reunion
    I guess this means I'm hosting g2 by default
    An Admin, a former Mod and a regular enter a bar....
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    I find it quite ironic that Amrock's guide was...

    I find it quite ironic that Amrock's guide was posted a few days before he ended up ravaging town in a Mash.

    The guide is well written though, so props for that.
  28. #137

    Thread: Mod Q&A: Part II

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    Sticky: What makes a good man go moderator? Lust for...

    What makes a good man go moderator? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of moderatorness ?
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    Sticky: Confirming providing flavour for Game 3. Which...

    Confirming providing flavour for Game 3.

    Which will ironically be about Persona 3.

    And contain Silverkeith who was top three in Champs two years ago.

    He's also a player with Persona themed Avatars

    Coincidence? I don't think so.
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    Sticky: I thought that was town only but I might be...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#149)
    I thought anni was ineligible for group mash awards
    I thought that was town only but I might be mistaken.

    But you can definitely nominate single players, like Ara and Amrock.
  31. Postgame#51747

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/73173028847...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#51723)
    I didn't even get to use this gif for the LanMisa shot



    I'm just sad about that. Curse you legos

    either way

    gg
  32. Postgame#51733

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Also unpopular opinion, but a game going to Final...

    Also unpopular opinion, but a game going to Final 8 (with two mechanically cleared town players at that!) is balanced, change my mind.

    Big shoutout to all the hosts this year, you are the best. ILY all and thank you for this wild experience of a game.
  33. Postgame#51732

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Well, I shot you for that attempt, so we are...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#51723)
    I didn't even get to use this gif for the LanMisa shot



    I'm just sad about that. Curse you legos

    either way

    gg
    Well, I shot you for that attempt, so we are gucci.

    Also Wolves winning too many events. Events nerf plox.

    (I was Jailkept thanks to Ondine that night)
  34. Day 4#39850

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    Completed Flips after mechanics, normally

    Quote Originally Posted by Sett (#39834)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#39816)
    I think metsfins could be the scared vengeful samurai!!!!!!!!

    He didn't claim or hint anything that I found!!!!

    That means that he could shoot someone, and if they're non-town then they can keep shooting until they hit town!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This was stated in the OP to exist; that role doesn't actually flip until their last target flips, if I recall correctly!!!!!

    If so... we need him to just shoot in the shots list I think!!!!

    We should hold shots or something, in case he's able to shoot down it at all!!!!
    Why would the scared vengeful samurai not flip as such?
    Flips after mechanics, normally
  35. Day 4#39839

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed I blame my coin. :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Anniversary (#39823)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cron (#39794)
    oatsmaster
    Hit!
    They were SwedishSkumbag, Town ITA Specialist.
    Mafia Universe Anniversary 2020
    Character image

    You are SwedishSkumbag, Town ITA Specialist. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

    You have 20% base ITA accuracy.
    I blame my coin.
  36. Day 4#39769

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Why would wolves use a Janitor on an ITA? A...

    Quote Originally Posted by Five (#39757)
    i think mets was town so im gonna call odine a wolf with a janitor esk role
    Why would wolves use a Janitor on an ITA? A public shot? Feels outing.
  37. Day 4#39759

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Thus I wasn't commuted. Easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by chess24 (#39731)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#39709)
    Quote Originally Posted by chess24 (#39688)
    Quote Originally Posted by Apogee (#39664)
    Btw re: riki I successfully target LanMisa last night as well.

    Don’t know exactly what that means but him going through is really possible
    have you claimed? are you sure you weren't roleblocked?

    (don't claim if you haven't)
    I’ve claimed infracter for a long time

    It went through as LAN was infracted
    if Lan is a commuter

    it wouldn't go through?
    Thus I wasn't commuted. Easy.
  38. Day 4#39745

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Ah, okay. Yeah, I got work late and I get super...

    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#39705)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#39681)
    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#39652)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#39640)
    Ok so if ara is town, five is town, notnotawolf is town, who are the people watching let it happen, at least like 12-13 $%#!ing people, some of the big players are scum.
    Amrock probably scum.
    What was he doing today. Only remember defending himself.
    Hi, what have you been up to yourself? I don't remember interacting with you.
    You are not too often in thread, so perhaps.

    I've been trying to make some sense of the game during N3 and SoD, my N3 paranoias ended up largely wrong though.
    Now I'm just sitting here tbh.
    Ah, okay. Yeah, I got work late and I get super tired due to getting up at 5.45 AM every morning, so I only ever come in after ITAs.
  39. Day 4#39699

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    Completed Okay, Heads for Fontana, Tails for Oats.... tails...

    Quote Originally Posted by Certified Dank (#39679)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#39668)
    Quote Originally Posted by Certified Dank (#39645)
    SHOTS:

    fontana
    wws
    frag
    five
    tsunami
    oats

    there's no specific order to these
    Gun to my head, off the list I liked Fontana earlier the least and Oats was because of how Billy treated him, right? Can I coinflip between both?
    sure
    Okay, Heads for Fontana, Tails for Oats.... tails it was. Or, I guess, number.

    oatsmaster
  40. Day 4#39681

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Hi, what have you been up to yourself? I don't...

    Quote Originally Posted by Underking (#39652)
    Quote Originally Posted by wiggles1993 (#39640)
    Ok so if ara is town, five is town, notnotawolf is town, who are the people watching let it happen, at least like 12-13 $%#!ing people, some of the big players are scum.
    Amrock probably scum.
    What was he doing today. Only remember defending himself.
    Hi, what have you been up to yourself? I don't remember interacting with you.
  41. Day 4#39668

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Gun to my head, off the list I liked Fontana...

    Quote Originally Posted by Certified Dank (#39645)
    SHOTS:

    fontana
    wws
    frag
    five
    tsunami
    oats

    there's no specific order to these
    Gun to my head, off the list I liked Fontana earlier the least and Oats was because of how Billy treated him, right? Can I coinflip between both?
  42. Day 4#39649

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed My eyes are still hurting like crazy, I need a...

    My eyes are still hurting like crazy, I need a shot. List?
  43. Day 4#39033

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed My eyes are starting to go blurry, I will take a...

    My eyes are starting to go blurry, I will take a step back to be back for ITAs. Sorry, but I can barely read right now.
  44. Day 4#39021

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Like whom exactly, I have trouble keeping people...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#39014)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#39009)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#38992)
    I mean. even if you think five is a villager, which is doubtful, 25% can easily be a duplicate role lol?
    Do you read Five wolfy off the exchange or independently? I don't think that his push was wolfy.
    I think the whole clump of people who jumped on amrock in weird-$%#! instant sync after he posted his poe are wolves.
    Like whom exactly, I have trouble keeping people in memory lately?
  45. Day 4#39009

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Do you read Five wolfy off the exchange or...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#38992)
    I mean. even if you think five is a villager, which is doubtful, 25% can easily be a duplicate role lol?
    Do you read Five wolfy off the exchange or independently? I don't think that his push was wolfy.
  46. Day 4#38999

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Yeah, I agree with you here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#38994)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#38989)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbae (#38966)
    ive been optimistic through adversity for a while but i feel we're in trouble now that we've got a lot of mechanical arguments going on

    i dont know how to steer it back on the right track
    the mechanical arguments are noise tbh, I don't really want to burn my energy on getting into mechanics too much with wolves

    it's just going in endless circles, conserving energy a bit for itas and also just suddenly super lucid and everything about the game seems clear
    i agree and it creates a massively pro wolf thread environment because wolves know more about the mechanics of the game so they can make arguments they know the answers to
    Yeah, I agree with you here.
  47. Day 4#38995

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Hm, okay, I see. I just don't see what wolf!five...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sett (#38976)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#38959)
    Hm, I don't believe in Five's case, I don't read the mechanics the same way he does.

    At the same time he seems to be super charged with this read. I don't feel like this is a wolfy push on Amrock at all but real paranoia.

    I think that both are town. Thoughts?
    I don't like the way he backed off the push, but I can see his ignorance about logic on why there is probably a town charger being townie, especially given he was the main person trying to pressure Amrock to claim.
    Hm, okay, I see. I just don't see what wolf!five would have thought to gain here.
  48. Day 4#38959

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed Hm, I don't believe in Five's case, I don't read...

    Hm, I don't believe in Five's case, I don't read the mechanics the same way he does.

    At the same time he seems to be super charged with this read. I don't feel like this is a wolfy push on Amrock at all but real paranoia.

    I think that both are town. Thoughts?
  49. Day 4#38943

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

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    Completed I thought I saw somebody win an universal Charge...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami (#38924)
    Quote Originally Posted by LanMisa (#38906)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#38894)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#38885)
    there have been flipped town roles requiring charges, so that would be pretty absurd
    which would mean the only way for town to get more charges is... events?

    why not just have 2-3 shot AC vs charged AC at that point
    Lolsetup, maybe reducing overall power or forcing people to event more.
    for ppl who've played events / won event prizes: have charges been awarded? mostly i've seen roleblocks but those were for the pastas/walrii i think
    I thought I saw somebody win an universal Charge present in an event earlier today? I might be wrong though.
  50. Day 4#38923

    Thread: Anniversary 2020

    by LanMisa
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    Completed Event prizes might be dependent on who gets them,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#38916)
    do events even give charges? that seems super silly when they're useless for most people
    Event prizes might be dependent on who gets them, maybe, with charger players being refilled, or charges being a giftable item.
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