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    Completed One of the weirdest games ever. Funny to...

    One of the weirdest games ever.

    Funny to follow.

    GG dendrek
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    Completed Just reading this :\

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#4016)
    Sucks that I have to make this post, but here goes.

    Over the past week or so, an investigation was conducted into certain oddities noted in the posting of champs participant Ex Bidama Pucodaguma, who the champs organizers was told was an alternate account for elijah/killthestory. It was discovered that this was only partially the case, and that the EBP account was in fact an unauthorized hydra account used by multiple members of the account's home community (Flow).

    Details about exact punishments can be found in the Public Moderation Log, but suffice to say that all involved users are facing a ban of some sort, and that the EBP account is ineligible for further advancement in this year's Championship.

    There is no evidence that integrity issues extended outside of the hydras, or that any of the people involved had external information they should not have had as a player of the game; the damage to the games in question is to the best of our knowledge contained within the slots, and is not considered sufficient to void the results of the games.

    Secretly sharing an account when playing a game is not something we take lightly; it is a severe offense, and a form of cheating.
    Just reading this

    :\
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    Completed Congrats everyone! And thanks :)

    Congrats everyone!

    And thanks
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    Completed This way, andracass

    Quote Originally Posted by andracass (#3916)
    so, uh, where does the voting happen, exactly?
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#3796)
    VOTING TIME



    All players that participated in this game must vote for who you think is the best all-around mafia player based on what you've seen from this game.

    THIS IS NOT AN MVP VOTE, nor is it a vote for the player who had the most positive impact on the game (otherwise the people who died early would rarely be in contention). Instead, you should vote based off who you think displayed the most overall skill as either alignment.

    You are giving a RANKED TOP 4.

    The names should be ordered from first to last. The first player will receive 5 points, the second player will receive 4 points, the third player will receive 3 points, and the fourth player will receive 2 points. You may not include yourself in your votes.

    The player receiving the most points will advance directly to the finale, and the player receiving the second-most points will be included in one of the two Wildcard games. Lissa will also reveal the rest of the top 4.

    There will be two Wildcard games held after qualifiers with 17 players each. 11 of those players are those who received the second most points in each game, and the remaining 23 are selected by the Jury. Players in the Wildcard games have another shot to advance to the finale.

    PM your votes to @Lissa please. Don't send them to me, I'm just here because Lissa is asleep. No, really. Don't send them to me. Please. Seriously.
    This way, @andracass
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    Completed Agree And after that, we wrote every Day...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBackpack (#3890)
    reading the spectator chat is disappointing, discrediting the wolf win on terms of "town was so bad lol"

    my partners did everything they needed to do to capitalize on town mistakes. when we got to the point where we learned how town operated, we made plays that we knew we could get away with IN THIS GAME. For example, we learned what kind of player Thanos was: he would townread anybody that townread him and scumread people that scumread him. We knew that lynching him gave town zero information about reads and gave every person involved in the lynch a free pass. If Thanos was a different player we would approach things differently.
    Agree

    And after that, we wrote every Day exactly what we needed to clear ourselves and at the same time drive the Town to fight against each other.
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    Completed It is not wrong I can see myself as a Town not...

    Quote Originally Posted by [NSM] Mikey (#3884)
    if I was alive for backpack to claim the red check
    I would have still tried to get people to lynch fura

    I have been told by many people that not resolving the dichotomy is wrong and I still don't care
    It is not wrong

    I can see myself as a Town not trying to solve the cop claim and postpone for the future.

    Like Fossil did, it makes sense
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    Completed Of the Town players I think Mikey too deserves...

    Quote Originally Posted by vanity. (#3850)
    congrats wolves! you all played well but especially well played to jack and backpack! nutella and squigs also played pretty well imo. the squigs lynch was a travesty.
    Of the Town players I think Mikey too deserves special mention, he had good reads and he was very often dangerous
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    Completed I think I received 0 votes throughout all the game

    I think I received 0 votes throughout all the game
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    Completed yeah i can believe it i thought a lot whether...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarizok (#3834)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3831)
    @blinkskater @DaBackpack @Furamirionind
    good game guys, i’ll miss you 😄
    I was so close to blocking you last night
    yeah i can believe it

    i thought a lot whether was better to go on reverse psychology and send backpack instead of me.
    but i also liked the fact that you could have thought i was possibly Jailk and let me act would have increases our odds of blocking someone
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    Completed blinkskater DaBackpack Furamirionind good game...

    @blinkskater @DaBackpack @Furamirionind
    good game guys, i’ll miss you 😄
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    Completed Thank you guys It was fun gg

    Thank you guys

    It was fun

    gg
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    Completed Izzy jailkept blinkskater but jarizok blocked...

    Izzy jailkept blinkskater but jarizok blocked Izzy lol!
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    Completed https://gph.is/2cWVXnP

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    Completed it will be hard*

    it will be hard*
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    Completed In any case, it would be hard to hit 4 wolves in...

    In any case, it would be hard to hit 4 wolves in a row...let's try...
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    Completed It's unlikely, they did not play for most of the...

    Quote Originally Posted by andracass (#3744)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3732)
    @andracass what is the scumteam you believe the most right know?
    fossil, bissy, fura, blink/you (leaning you)
    It's unlikely, they did not play for most of the time. I do not believe this.

    Also, I do not think Fossil is scum with Bissy and he reveals himself helping Bissy how he did today.

    Dusk/Fura/Bissy/Blink
    Dusk/Fura/Bissy/Jarizok
    Dusk/Jarizok/Bissy/Blink

    For me these are the likliest teams.

    Idt that the interactions of Bissy and Dusk of today mean that the two of them are clearly not scum together.

    I should start rereading stuff from previous days to look for interactions, but today i could not, and probably i will not do this tomorrow either.
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    Completed I misinterpreted #3653, I read it wrong and I...

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3736)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3731)
    So...Duskfall will vote Bissy
    Fura and Blink I think are going to vote Bissy

    Jarizok do you have new point of view?
    Why do you think i'm going to vote bissy? Have you even looked at my reads?
    I misinterpreted #3653, I read it wrong and I thought you meant the opposite.

    Interesting that you have doubts too
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    Completed andracass what is the scumteam you believe the...

    @andracass what is the scumteam you believe the most right know?
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    Completed So...Duskfall will vote Bissy Fura and Blink I...

    So...Duskfall will vote Bissy
    Fura and Blink I think are going to vote Bissy

    Jarizok do you have new point of view?
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    Completed I think they will not do wolf-rush in any case,...

    I think they will not do wolf-rush in any case, because even if there is another mislynch today, mafia would need a NK to win, and we could stop them
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    Completed Jarizok what you want to do?

    @Jarizok what you want to do?
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    Completed Andracass you're irrational here. fossil has a...

    Andracass you're irrational here.

    fossil has a legit opinion.

    he does not trust backpack, and he is not able to decide between him and bissy right now.

    so he prefers to lynch who he thinks he is scum, and postpone backpack vs bissy in the future, hoping in new information

    i understand your point andracass, but what fossil is saying is not that crazy
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    Completed I think that it is obvious that if I am scum with...

    Quote Originally Posted by andracass (#3683)
    Quote Originally Posted by DaBackpack (#3682)
    mechanically the lynch ahs to be between me and bissy but they realize their chances of winning are higher if they deny that thunderdome by focusing on duskfall
    this is also why i am reading jack as scummier than blink.
    I think that it is obvious that if I am scum with bissy i would just bus him and lynch him.

    I have plenty of towncred. if i am scum with bissy, i can afford bissy being lynched today and win the game in the future. As a wolf i will never help my teammate bissy now, against backpack, come on. I can easily win next days, without bissy, if i am scum.

    i'm only evaluating possible outcomes
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    Completed Well this is clear

    Quote Originally Posted by andracass (#3678)
    a few things are becoming clear.
    firstly, there have been two votes on bissy but no wolf-rush. either bissy must be wolf or DBP is.
    Well this is clear
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    Completed it's difficult, but of course. otherwise i would...

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskfall (#3673)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3672)
    As I said...
    I believe Bissy is scum because I believe Backpack Townie for many reasons. So I believe Bissy around 85% being scum. 15% backpack is lying. Even less.
    At the same time all the game performed by Duskfall makes me believe he is super scum. How much I believe Duskfall is scum? Even more than how much I believe Backpack is town , so i would say 86-87%

    Basically, i am fine in lynching both of them. I want only to understand where I want to start. I think there is no difference in the end, but there is time left so I take my time.

    If you do not want to wait for me, just do what you prefer, do not wait for me
    Is your mind open to be changed on what you think of me?
    it's difficult, but of course.
    otherwise i would have already voted for you.
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    Completed As I said... I believe Bissy is scum because I...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil (#3666)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3665)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil (#3663)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskfall (#3662)
    Yeah but backpack can only be scum in a world where he is my partner is the point, if I am town so is he
    The issue is that some of use think you’re scum.
    For me it is believable dusk+bissy scum and backpack town, though.
    Actually it is what i think since when backpack claimed.
    Now it is clear that they fight each other if they are scum. Do not be surprised.
    So should we vote Bissy today and Dusk tomorrow?
    As I said...
    I believe Bissy is scum because I believe Backpack Townie for many reasons. So I believe Bissy around 85% being scum. 15% backpack is lying. Even less.
    At the same time all the game performed by Duskfall makes me believe he is super scum. How much I believe Duskfall is scum? Even more than how much I believe Backpack is town , so i would say 86-87%

    Basically, i am fine in lynching both of them. I want only to understand where I want to start. I think there is no difference in the end, but there is time left so I take my time.

    If you do not want to wait for me, just do what you prefer, do not wait for me
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    Completed For me it is believable dusk+bissy scum and...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil (#3663)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskfall (#3662)
    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3660)
    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3658)
    That actually makes a $#@! ton of sense.
    Unless you are scum with him?

    Thats not the world i live in.
    Yeah but backpack can only be scum in a world where he is my partner is the point, if I am town so is he
    The issue is that some of use think you’re scum.
    For me it is believable dusk+bissy scum and backpack town, though.
    Actually it is what i think since when backpack claimed.
    Now it is clear that they fight each other if they are scum. Do not be surprised.
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    Completed I can not explain better my mindset than what I...

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3647)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3643)
    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3640)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3635)
    Uff

    I do not see myself ever voting backpack today

    i'm just swinging between voting duskfall and solving your situation.

    basically...i haven't ever read you as scum, but i can believe you are

    the only thing i'm thinking if it is better to vote dusk today. because i strongly believe dusk is maf, more than how much i am confident on backpack. and we solve you/backpack in the future, hoping to collect information from dusk flip, nk actions and things like these.
    I don't see how we can even consider voting dusk today when we have a direct red claim vs a no im not red claim, makes literally no sense dude
    What you are saying is obvious Blink, we all see that there is Backp vs Bissy here.

    I'm saying that I believe 85% Backpack to be Town.
    But I also believe at the same time 90% Dusk to be scum.
    So I feel right now more confident on Dusk.
    I feel confident on Backpack too, I have to decide where I prefer to begin with
    Yeah it's obvious yet you're still considering trying to lynch dusk eh?
    I can not explain better my mindset than what I already did in the previous post
    If you do not understand/believe it, I can live with it.
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    Completed Duskfall is likely going to flip town??

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3641)
    One of them is a wolf one of them is not it's our job to figure it who is who, not vote someone else who is going to likley flip town due to how he is playing this game, are you a wolf jack?
    Duskfall is likely going to flip town??
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    Completed What you are saying is obvious Blink, we all see...

    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater (#3640)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3635)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bissy (#3633)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3632)
    Bissy wrote a reasonable defense.

    I did not like he voted Dusk, before voting Backpack. A Townie mindset would make you vote the false cop rightaway I think.

    However, Backpack is playing his role clean and neat. He made a believable action on Bissy and he also wrote nice reasonings just before, talking about mafia strongman and roleblocker on him. For me he is believable
    If you, who I have as my town core and probably the best town team-mate incline to believe him, the game is over.
    I must admit that he did played his role nice and neat, it's frustrating that we ended up in this situation and that he decided to false reveal my alignment but this is how the game works. If they will have a successful kill tonight, the game is over.
    Uff

    I do not see myself ever voting backpack today

    i'm just swinging between voting duskfall and solving your situation.

    basically...i haven't ever read you as scum, but i can believe you are

    the only thing i'm thinking if it is better to vote dusk today. because i strongly believe dusk is maf, more than how much i am confident on backpack. and we solve you/backpack in the future, hoping to collect information from dusk flip, nk actions and things like these.
    I don't see how we can even consider voting dusk today when we have a direct red claim vs a no im not red claim, makes literally no sense dude
    What you are saying is obvious Blink, we all see that there is Backp vs Bissy here.

    I'm saying that I believe 85% Backpack to be Town.
    But I also believe at the same time 90% Dusk to be scum.
    So I feel right now more confident on Dusk.
    I feel confident on Backpack too, I have to decide where I prefer to begin with
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    Completed #3588#3591#3593 He said he does not remember...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarizok (#3636)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3630)
    Fossil derped (i do not know if this is correct in english) a lot about claims in his last posts, did not look like it was fake.
    Just saying
    How did he derp? Did he say anything you know to be wrong or...?
    #3588#3591#3593
    He said he does not remember Blink's role.
    He said he does not know remember a Watcher does.
    I think if you are scum you remember at least basic stuff about the Vigilante...these posts look like confused townie who does not follow the game too much
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    Completed Uff I do not see myself ever voting backpack...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bissy (#3633)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3632)
    Bissy wrote a reasonable defense.

    I did not like he voted Dusk, before voting Backpack. A Townie mindset would make you vote the false cop rightaway I think.

    However, Backpack is playing his role clean and neat. He made a believable action on Bissy and he also wrote nice reasonings just before, talking about mafia strongman and roleblocker on him. For me he is believable
    If you, who I have as my town core and probably the best town team-mate incline to believe him, the game is over.
    I must admit that he did played his role nice and neat, it's frustrating that we ended up in this situation and that he decided to false reveal my alignment but this is how the game works. If they will have a successful kill tonight, the game is over.
    Uff

    I do not see myself ever voting backpack today

    i'm just swinging between voting duskfall and solving your situation.

    basically...i haven't ever read you as scum, but i can believe you are

    the only thing i'm thinking if it is better to vote dusk today. because i strongly believe dusk is maf, more than how much i am confident on backpack. and we solve you/backpack in the future, hoping to collect information from dusk flip, nk actions and things like these.
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    Completed Bissy wrote a reasonable defense. I did not...

    Bissy wrote a reasonable defense.

    I did not like he voted Dusk, before voting Backpack. A Townie mindset would make you vote the false cop rightaway I think.

    However, Backpack is playing his role clean and neat. He made a believable action on Bissy and he also wrote nice reasonings just before, talking about mafia strongman and roleblocker on him. For me he is believable
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    Completed Fossil derped (i do not know if this is correct...

    Fossil derped (i do not know if this is correct in english) a lot about claims in his last posts, did not look like it was fake.
    Just saying
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    Completed He went on Blinkskater and he saw nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fossil (#3576)
    Can someone please tell me what Dusk’s results are?
    He went on Blinkskater and he saw nothing
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    Completed lol

    Quote Originally Posted by andracass (#3569)
    choo choo, all aboard the bissy bus, right fossil fura blink?
    lol
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    Completed Do not kill by majority, guys. I know it's...

    Do not kill by majority, guys.
    I know it's boring but we have time, let's use it.

    I'm going to sleep and I do not want to leave my vote around so i do not vote anyone.

    Also, I prefer to claim after Bissy claims, if my claim is really needed.
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    Completed Ah I was start reading Bissy's ISO and I kept a...

    Ah I was start reading Bissy's ISO and I kept a quote there
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    Completed You did good Town has information from...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bissy (#297)
    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Kaine (#289)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bissy (#286)
    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Kaine (#199)
    Are you driving post count on purpose, knowing we have a lot of peeps that never played here and will be a bit overwhelmed?
    I thought that you were going to sleep.
    Thoughts for the game so far?

    Bit weird that a "good luck" comment took over so much in terms of people trying to read that.
    I mean it's a Championship game. I did not know there was no sportsmanship in these game.

    I need to re-read the thread as I think I saw a comment by someone that might have given themselves away.
    I’ve just managed to read the thread. I have a lot of mixed reads on peeps, especially with so much spam and “nothing to say” posts but very early thoughts I town read Nutella, Mickey, Ex Bidama Pucodaguma and Andracass.
    I find you and Jari rather cautious and Dusk seems rather scum but we have plenty of time to still twist the initial ideas.
    Quote Originally Posted by DaBackpack (#3555)
    I originally was gonna do duskfall but I did a lil tricky tricky
    You did good

    Town has information from posts/votes and powers.
    Duskfall gave us a lot of votes and posts.
    Use a power on him would be totally wasted.
    We will use our intuition on Duskfall
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    Completed Bissy red might be

    Bissy red might be
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    Completed I was writing this: Guys it's Duskfall. He...

    I was writing this:

    Guys it's Duskfall.
    He drove Town to three myslinches. He basically has no reads for most of the time: he just waits and goes towards anyone is not aligned to him, reading him as lock scum: this is not Town, this is opportunisc mindset. He lynched righataway Cop in D1, and then he went crazy to prevent lynching Doctor (weaker than Cop) in D2. There is no coherence here. Probably he was pocketing Andra and/or he was trying to look townie saving a good role. He fakeclaimed, and as a scum I can think many possible reasons in doing that (hoping Cop3 was dead and steal the claim; or lynch the true cop3 after cc, for example); also consider that Dusk was the leading wagon when he did that.
    Finally, every guy being lynched (squig ebp,enoch) said Dusk was scum from their point of view. And they are three.

    I do not think we will win at this point, but still: the Townie guys that yesterday voted Enoch wake up. Realizes that you are wrong about Dusk and accept it. Really, I say again: it is not only the three mislynches, it's everything of his playstyle. He plays only to 1) stay alive 2) find one guy to mislynch. That's it. No other analysis (he gave us a readlist where I remember all the scumlist were the people suspecting him).

    Andracass especially, I think you are Town and you are the one always ending in helping Duskfall. He knows and he always searches your vote.

    Wagons of yesterday
    Enoch: andracass, Jarizok, blinkskater, Furamirionind, DaBackpack Duskfall
    Duskfall: Enoch Kaine, JackShepard, Laughable Chimp, Bissy, Fossil

    I think that Dusk could have been able to convince
    Andracass
    Jarizok
    Backpack
    to help him.

    This means that
    Fura
    Blink are scum with Dusk.
    And this makes sense.

    The other scum was on the Enoch wagon ready to switch: bissy-chimp-fossil.
    This is hard to say because Chimp and Bissy always said very clean, neat things.
    Fossil wrote scummy posts at a certin time, but he seemd genuine when he sheeped my vote in previous EoD.
    I would say Fossil is the scum here, because I trust more by my guts Bissy and Chimp, but for now I do not care about them.

    Maybe Jarizok could be scum and one between Fura and Blink is Town.

    for now I think

    Duskfall
    Fossil (chimp/bissy)
    Blinkskater
    Fura

    One of the last two could substituted by Jarizok. I do not think Aandracass and Backpack are scum according how they played.
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    Completed Bissy? I was writing a long post but now things...

    Bissy?
    I was writing a long post but now things are changing...i will send the post in any case so you can read
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    Completed It is unlikely that they are a considerable part...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarizok (#3424)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3419)
    The votes on dusk wagon are more pure than the others i would say

    i'm not moving the vote
    Chimp Bissy and Fossil are the purest ppl in the game???
    It is unlikely that they are a considerable part of the scumteam

    they are all low posters...two of them are the scumteam with enoch? idt so
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    Completed The votes on dusk wagon are more pure than the...

    The votes on dusk wagon are more pure than the others i would say

    i'm not moving the vote
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    Completed Well, if enoch flips red, after all my effort in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarizok (#3323)
    Quote Originally Posted by JackShepard (#3318)
    If you lynch enoch and enoch flips red i will be very happy and very very surprised

    could be, but i do not think this is the truth

    in that case I would appreciate you do your action on me backpack
    That’d be kind of a waste? There’s not a single person that scumreads you rn?
    Well, if enoch flips red, after all my effort in helping him, i can see myself under suspicions
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    Completed Oh yes we lynch one wolf out of 4 in mylo, very...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarizok (#3320)
    Quote Originally Posted by DaBackpack (#3316)
    the only scummy thing I have against duskfall is his silver tongue, his approach to getting people to unvote him is remarkable --- thinking back to d1 where he would personally appeal to every person voting him
    If we’re wrong /again/ I’ll friggin help you lynch Dusk tomorrow. Put all my hope in having been utterly and comletely wrong about everything at that point.
    Oh yes we lynch one wolf out of 4 in mylo, very good
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    Completed If you lynch enoch and enoch flips red i will be...

    If you lynch enoch and enoch flips red i will be very happy and very very surprised

    could be, but i do not think this is the truth

    in that case I would appreciate you do your action on me backpack
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    Completed I'm pretty sure this will end in another mislynch...

    I'm pretty sure this will end in another mislynch on enoch. I would say 90% enoch is town.

    Then yes, tomorrow we/you (if i m not alive) lynch dusk who is likely red.

    And then? We will never find all of the other three guys in a row.

    @DaBackpack if we lynch Enoch and Enoch flips green I suggest not to do your actions on Dusk. Search among the others.

    This is my opinion
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    Completed I am not sure what you mean, but do not hammer,...

    Quote Originally Posted by andracass (#3254)
    sorry mikey. the thunderdome is upon us.
    I am not sure what you mean, but do not hammer, do not kill by majority in any case
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    Completed I'm not

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarizok (#3227)
    @[NSM] Mikey @Bissy @Laughable Chimp @JackShepard Plz claim N1/N3 RB yes/no.
    I'm not
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