This Eternal is the bearer of the "Paths Of Tribulation" whom during night zero and every night may submit a "PATH" for players to endure or fulfill the following day. Failing to do so may result in terrible consequences but if the player list succeeds, they will get good rewards from the Eternal.
1st path of Tribulation conditions
Players cannot make more than 40 posts during the following day.
If any player goes over the limit the following punishment will be imposed on all players:
Three random town aligned players will die at the end of the day. One random mafia aligned OR One random independent will die at the end of the following night.
If no one goes over the limit the following blessing will be granted:
The following night, All Town aligned players will automatically self motion detect and two random town players will become Masons. All groupscum factions will get Strongman status for their factional kill. All non-town loners get night kill immunity.
Okay i just realised the day last 48 hours so i guess it's inevitable 3 townies will die
Yes the more I think about it, the more I believe option 1 is just better. No restriction is good in itself (I’m sure @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR will agree) and 3 vs 1 is a good deal in a game where kills will be a plenty (especially on Day 1 where the POE is huge).
I also don’t think dying is necessarily permanent in a game like this.
The only thing that really speaks for option 2 is the masons, which is very strong but maybe not so much in a 30 player game.
What am I agreeing with
That not using the 40 post count restriction is good (it’s your main scum catching MO)
##Vote Minimania
2 reasons: TMI (thanks for confirming multiball) and calling me not town without a vote while the real
vote is a policy yeet.
choo-choo.
Its not my main m.o. just works for some people lol
This Eternal is the bearer of the "Paths Of Tribulation" whom during night zero and every night may submit a "PATH" for players to endure or fulfill the following day. Failing to do so may result in terrible consequences but if the player list succeeds, they will get good rewards from the Eternal.
1st path of Tribulation conditions
Players cannot make more than 40 posts during the following day.
If any player goes over the limit the following punishment will be imposed on all players:
Three random town aligned players will die at the end of the day. One random mafia aligned OR One random independent will die at the end of the following night.
If no one goes over the limit the following blessing will be granted:
The following night, All Town aligned players will automatically self motion detect and two random town players will become Masons. All groupscum factions will get Strongman status for their factional kill. All non-town loners get night kill immunity.
Okay i just realised the day last 48 hours so i guess it's inevitable 3 townies will die
Yes the more I think about it, the more I believe option 1 is just better. No restriction is good in itself (I’m sure @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR will agree) and 3 vs 1 is a good deal in a game where kills will be a plenty (especially on Day 1 where the POE is huge).
I also don’t think dying is necessarily permanent in a game like this.
The only thing that really speaks for option 2 is the masons, which is very strong but maybe not so much in a 30 player game.
Given wisdom's treatment of swowl, there should basically always be at least one if not both remaining mafia on swowl eod1 imo
It was almost certainly a planned bus with the "look at their champs game" thing, particularly with how wiz tried to use a similar argument towards me d2, it seems fairly obvious that they wanted to bus swowl d1 and get cred for it then leverage that to try to push town over with the same methods
Granted im not super confident cause, like, the pr claim was such a bad play that I dojt really know what this team is doing, but
Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR1656291197
(#3203)
I've been saying things all game my dude
On this issue. Schweppes. What is the polarization. Explain clearly and concisely.
I'm too tired for clear and concise.
Idk what to say really beyond his scum game isn't that good recently, I believe largely through uncaring
I think he is probably capable of breaking out of it, but like...for reasons I don't want to say because I'm not entirely confident they're right, I kinda don't think this is the game he breaks out of it.
Basically think of it like him being burnt out of playing scum, I guess, maybe that is a helpful framework to think of it in
Like read sorc17 and tell me he's not polarized lol
i couldn't find good scum games of his through the mountain of turbos but ill look for this "sorc17"
Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR1656290850
(#3199)
I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
It's for my sake, and I'm not currently on him and need the scales tipped, so go ahead. I don't want to accept you saying nothing for any longer. Wish you give me some help.
I've been saying things all game my dude
On this issue. Schweppes. What is the polarization. Explain clearly and concisely.
I'm too tired for clear and concise.
Idk what to say really beyond his scum game isn't that good recently, I believe largely through uncaring
I think he is probably capable of breaking out of it, but like...for reasons I don't want to say because I'm not entirely confident they're right, I kinda don't think this is the game he breaks out of it.
Basically think of it like him being burnt out of playing scum, I guess, maybe that is a helpful framework to think of it in
Like read sorc17 and tell me he's not polarized lol
Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR1656290850
(#3199)
I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
It's for my sake, and I'm not currently on him and need the scales tipped, so go ahead. I don't want to accept you saying nothing for any longer. Wish you give me some help.
@in controL I hope you do have some time to steer this game. Getting two mafia is great. But I highly, highly disagree on both the Vivax and Schweppes wolf reads that are floating about. Those are the two players that are the most spewed town by Swowl and Wisdom. It's basically free town reads. I'll grab quotes.
probably not, but i was also townreading vivax and haven't read the case yet so can't say for sure
i don't know if there's any utility to me steering this game any longer, i'm out of ~confident~ votes and it's PoE time, and I don't know if the table is inclined to listen to Dale such that you should worry that much if you disagree with his reads
there is a reason I shot illwei over schweppes though, still just sponging off of Nanook, and til this point I have believed that if there's one scum in Nanook/Schweppes it probably is Nanook over Schweppes
I have read Schweppes' scum games and still don't understand the polarization myself, so prob time for @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR to come explain it and offer him a defense.
I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
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Why dont you get an updated take on me first, because last I heard you've bedn scumreading for $%#! reasons for a while now.
Like until I know you have an honest handle on my slot, which can be done fairly easily by checking my D2 posts first, then my EoD1 if you want more info about my worldview.
Aight! I saw you being tilted at some point which I found kinda towny. Will iso you next!
Wisdom, im going to be blunt here, I think your reads rn are $%#! and actively unhelpful and really would not be remiss if I just gave in and punted you with how grating they are to me.
You simply cannot make reads off of salvaging random pieces of driftwood you see. It just doesn't work.
Why should you care abt what HF thinks about NANOOK?
He knows nothing about NANOOK and what you quoted there has zero detail.
None
Why woukd you even sheep something like that, its unbelievable.
Im sorry, but the information you need is not easy to get and the HF iso is actually one of the least helpful places for info the moment you accept Vorros is JK and Im town and he wasnt around at the time to comment on much else relevant other than you.
Granted I understand he couldve been nked, but nah, illwei's iso is a much better window into the game.
Gosh this came out extremely harsh.
I need to chill.
Oh did Vorros shoot HF?
lol I missed that, assumed HF was wolf killed since he claimed vig.
But NANOOK tends to kill those who susses him, like, killing Cappu n1 in his Champs game was weird as heck but she was also one of the few people who wolf read him, so it would make sense for him to shoot HF.
Gonna need to read up on Illwei as well then.
That kill was made primarily to set up hells
(Also it was Ricardo, cappu was in a different game)
Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR1656078826
(#2725)
If you wanna bounce stuff we can
I'm kinda just not super interested in engaging with half the game rn lol
Well, I’m gonna bounce lol
But yeah: Eva - hot or not?
Also, you seemed to take the other perspective on Wisdom, so I’m curious about that
Mm excellent question, kinda been avoiding thinking about it tbh. I'd say probably fine today but I definitely do not have her clear. Prooooobably not teamed with wiz, for sort of nebulous gamestate reasons I couldn't properly explain even if I cared to.
Yeah I kinda don't really see wiz as likely to bus swowl like that, my understanding of her scum game is that she's actually pretty loathe to bus, and also the PR claim into continuing to hard bus swowl is just...look I dont really expect her to be super good at tactics as mafia, if im being honest, but I expect a higher level of competency than that, there really wasn't a need to sacrifice two mafia d1 there imo, and you're more likely to draw out a CC by claiming a specific pr too, so. Yeah idk I don't really have the desire or the confidence in the read to fight against the wiz push but they kinda seem like wrong place wrong time town to me
NANOOK's way of treating me this game feels very much like TMI. It's like his main focus this game/day is to look good if I flip.
I need to do some NANOOK meta-research (I know what I'm looking for) but he's probably a wolf and eva's probably town.
convince me that the w!Wisdom argument doesnt just boil down to "Wisdom fakeclaimed hahah"
and @matt here is telling me with a straight face that "Wisdom is w, because w!Swowl said they're w, so they must be w, shrugzies"
The issue is that Wisdom claimed pr
Mafia has no reason to assume town is lying about a PR claim.
The conviction that owl had behind wisdom being a wolf was just way too confident given that she was a pr claim and was self resolvable.
In fact, none of his other pushes even had any meat to them. He pushed people that voted Vivax and voted you, but didn't push anyone on those votes directly. Just the wagons as a whole. He also self pres'd on Eva while she was literally defending his life and gave absolutely no rhyme or reason behind it.
The moral of the story is that owl was not confident in anything to push except for a pr claim. I just really felt he was in the know she was lying because they share a mafia chat together.
...Mafia can just push a pr claim they think is real, yeah? Particularly a mafia likely going over?
wisdom claiming there just makes swowl more likely to die so the suicide theory doesn't really work. because that just gets swowl killed and then themselves killed when they have to "un CC" at some point in the future
and if she were suiciding i feel like she would claim a specific role also to get the actual PR to out, she clearly wanted to live there by not claiming a specific role
but why did she claim there as town when she wasn't the top wagon and there were still several hours left
This is what I've been saying lol
Bolded: to try and draw the nk without outing an actual pr
I was going to say something about posting more, but then I remembered that no one is incentivized to rn except for @matt who is unfortunately not here.
Kinda disappointed Matt chose not to be here with as many people clearing them town from the poison.
???
He explicitly was waiting to see wiz claim, and its still pretty early in the day? Like
He only has 200 posts plus eod to work with, chill lol
I was going to say something about posting more, but then I remembered that no one is incentivized to rn except for @matt who is unfortunately not here.
Kinda disappointed Matt chose not to be here with as many people clearing them town from the poison.
???
He explicitly was waiting to see wiz claim, and its still pretty early in the day? Like
He only has 200 posts plus eod to work with, chill lol
Originally Posted by Macdougall
