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    Game Thread How is a 3 for 1 trade not good

    Quote Originally Posted by Macdougall (#98)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#63)
    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#7)
    There is an Eternal among you

    This Eternal is the bearer of the "Paths Of Tribulation" whom during night zero and every night may submit a "PATH" for players to endure or fulfill the following day. Failing to do so may result in terrible consequences but if the player list succeeds, they will get good rewards from the Eternal.






    1st path of Tribulation conditions

    Players cannot make more than 40 posts during the following day.

    If any player goes over the limit the following punishment will be imposed on all players:

    Three random town aligned players will die at the end of the day. One random mafia aligned OR One random independent will die at the end of the following night.

    If no one goes over the limit the following blessing will be granted:

    The following night, All Town aligned players will automatically self motion detect and two random town players will become Masons. All groupscum factions will get Strongman status for their factional kill. All non-town loners get night kill immunity.
    ...the punishment here seems strictly better?
    Town

    but wrong lol
    How is a 3 for 1 trade not good
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    Game Thread If we hammer now we get a normal length night,...

    If we hammer now we get a normal length night, just saying
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    Game Thread Its not my main m.o. just works for some people...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhand (#67)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#62)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhand (#60)
    Quote Originally Posted by Anaxagore (#59)
    Okay i just realised the day last 48 hours so i guess it's inevitable 3 townies will die
    Yes the more I think about it, the more I believe option 1 is just better. No restriction is good in itself (I’m sure @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR will agree) and 3 vs 1 is a good deal in a game where kills will be a plenty (especially on Day 1 where the POE is huge).
    I also don’t think dying is necessarily permanent in a game like this.

    The only thing that really speaks for option 2 is the masons, which is very strong but maybe not so much in a 30 player game.
    What am I agreeing with
    That not using the 40 post count restriction is good (it’s your main scum catching MO)

    ##Vote Minimania
    2 reasons: TMI (thanks for confirming multiball) and calling me not town without a vote while the real
    vote is a policy yeet.
    choo-choo.
    Its not my main m.o. just works for some people lol
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    Game Thread There must be a catch yeah

    There must be a catch yeah
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    Game Thread ...the punishment here seems strictly better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guillotina (#7)
    There is an Eternal among you

    This Eternal is the bearer of the "Paths Of Tribulation" whom during night zero and every night may submit a "PATH" for players to endure or fulfill the following day. Failing to do so may result in terrible consequences but if the player list succeeds, they will get good rewards from the Eternal.






    1st path of Tribulation conditions

    Players cannot make more than 40 posts during the following day.

    If any player goes over the limit the following punishment will be imposed on all players:

    Three random town aligned players will die at the end of the day. One random mafia aligned OR One random independent will die at the end of the following night.

    If no one goes over the limit the following blessing will be granted:

    The following night, All Town aligned players will automatically self motion detect and two random town players will become Masons. All groupscum factions will get Strongman status for their factional kill. All non-town loners get night kill immunity.
    ...the punishment here seems strictly better?
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    Game Thread What am I agreeing with

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhand (#60)
    Quote Originally Posted by Anaxagore (#59)
    Okay i just realised the day last 48 hours so i guess it's inevitable 3 townies will die
    Yes the more I think about it, the more I believe option 1 is just better. No restriction is good in itself (I’m sure @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR will agree) and 3 vs 1 is a good deal in a game where kills will be a plenty (especially on Day 1 where the POE is huge).
    I also don’t think dying is necessarily permanent in a game like this.

    The only thing that really speaks for option 2 is the masons, which is very strong but maybe not so much in a 30 player game.
    What am I agreeing with
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    Game Thread Arctic

    ##Vote Arctic
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    Game Thread *than

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    Game Thread I prefer not to think about this game atp

    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#3354)
    Anyone have any ideas about gamestate?
    I prefer not to think about this game atp
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    Game Thread Who is this everyone? Everyone is like two or...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#3309)
    Would like to see quotes & reasoning cause everyone thought Wisdom wasn't with Swowl yesterday either & welp...
    Who is this everyone? Everyone is like two or three people lol
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    Game Thread Given wisdom's treatment of swowl, there should...

    Given wisdom's treatment of swowl, there should basically always be at least one if not both remaining mafia on swowl eod1 imo

    It was almost certainly a planned bus with the "look at their champs game" thing, particularly with how wiz tried to use a similar argument towards me d2, it seems fairly obvious that they wanted to bus swowl d1 and get cred for it then leverage that to try to push town over with the same methods


    Granted im not super confident cause, like, the pr claim was such a bad play that I dojt really know what this team is doing, but

    Probably at least one more on swowl regardless
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    Game Thread I buy it Escape from Los Angeles

    I buy it

    ##Vote Escape from Los Angeles
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    Game Thread Tbh im not sure id be super interested in trying...

    Tbh im not sure id be super interested in trying to explain it if I were more awake either tho 😆
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    Game Thread I'm barely awake

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#3219)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3199)
    I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
    Why are you like this right now? I have. We can solve the game. I think it's pretty obvious that Schweppes is town.
    I'm barely awake
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    Game Thread Tom Clancy themed, we both played it

    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3218)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3216)
    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3205)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3203)
    I've been saying things all game my dude
    On this issue. Schweppes. What is the polarization. Explain clearly and concisely.
    I'm too tired for clear and concise.

    Idk what to say really beyond his scum game isn't that good recently, I believe largely through uncaring

    I think he is probably capable of breaking out of it, but like...for reasons I don't want to say because I'm not entirely confident they're right, I kinda don't think this is the game he breaks out of it.

    Basically think of it like him being burnt out of playing scum, I guess, maybe that is a helpful framework to think of it in

    Like read sorc17 and tell me he's not polarized lol
    i couldn't find good scum games of his through the mountain of turbos but ill look for this "sorc17"
    Tom Clancy themed, we both played it
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    Game Thread I'm too tired for clear and concise. Idk what...

    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3205)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3203)
    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3202)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3199)
    I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
    It's for my sake, and I'm not currently on him and need the scales tipped, so go ahead. I don't want to accept you saying nothing for any longer. Wish you give me some help.
    I've been saying things all game my dude
    On this issue. Schweppes. What is the polarization. Explain clearly and concisely.
    I'm too tired for clear and concise.

    Idk what to say really beyond his scum game isn't that good recently, I believe largely through uncaring

    I think he is probably capable of breaking out of it, but like...for reasons I don't want to say because I'm not entirely confident they're right, I kinda don't think this is the game he breaks out of it.

    Basically think of it like him being burnt out of playing scum, I guess, maybe that is a helpful framework to think of it in

    Like read sorc17 and tell me he's not polarized lol
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    Game Thread I've been saying things all game my dude

    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3202)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3199)
    I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
    It's for my sake, and I'm not currently on him and need the scales tipped, so go ahead. I don't want to accept you saying nothing for any longer. Wish you give me some help.
    I've been saying things all game my dude
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    Game Thread I have nothing to offer that would be convincing...

    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3165)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#3159)
    Thanks for the concern. I'm ok.

    Just caught up on this game.

    @in controL I hope you do have some time to steer this game. Getting two mafia is great. But I highly, highly disagree on both the Vivax and Schweppes wolf reads that are floating about. Those are the two players that are the most spewed town by Swowl and Wisdom. It's basically free town reads. I'll grab quotes.
    probably not, but i was also townreading vivax and haven't read the case yet so can't say for sure

    i don't know if there's any utility to me steering this game any longer, i'm out of ~confident~ votes and it's PoE time, and I don't know if the table is inclined to listen to Dale such that you should worry that much if you disagree with his reads

    there is a reason I shot illwei over schweppes though, still just sponging off of Nanook, and til this point I have believed that if there's one scum in Nanook/Schweppes it probably is Nanook over Schweppes

    I have read Schweppes' scum games and still don't understand the polarization myself, so prob time for @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR to come explain it and offer him a defense.
    I have nothing to offer that would be convincing enough to get people off him lol
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    Light Fog of War

    Hosted By: @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
    Size: 8 players (6 town, 2 mafia)
    SOD/EOD: 7PM EDT (hammer in the first 6 hours of a day shortens the night, after that night will be extended)
    Phase Lengths: 24/24
    Night Chat: No unless otherwise stated in role PM. Mafia 24/7
    Out of Thread Communication: No unless otherwise stated in role PM. Access to discord is required. Any chats that exist are 24/7 from the time of rand (including mafia chat).
    Posting Requirement: No minimum. 60 cap per day, lifts 30 minutes before EOD.
    Voting: Hammer always on. Fx is NOT announced. Votes do NOT lock at Fx.
    Flips: This game is flipless.



    setup

    5 VT
    1 Town Combat Medic
    2 Vengeful Mafia

    The ways PRs work this game is a bit weird, so PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING SECTION

    Only one PR action will be successful this game. On day one, if a mafia OR the combat medic (cm) is killed, they will choose a player to die with them. From that point the CM (if alive) and the remaining mafia are vanilla/goon.

    If a VT dies on d1--the Combat Medic will be given the choice to save the NK or allow them to die.* if the CM makes a save, they and the mafia become vanilla/goon for the remainder of the game.

    Put simply, once one ability by either side is used, everyone is vanilla.

    *for host availability reasons, the CM will not be informed who the NK target is ahead of time. They may submit a list to the host of the living players in the game and whether to save or allow them to die (including themselves). They will be informed who the NK target was before SOD.

    Night actions lock one hour before SOD.




    Please be aware that I will be using ZERO subs once the game begins (I will do pregame subs if necessary, though I hope it is not). I will also not be modkilling for inactivity or a player leaving the game. It is up to the players in this game to determine how they wish to handle those slots, should it come up. I will, of course, still modkill for a rules infraction if necessary, and those will be alignment blind, although I sincerely hope it will not come up!

    Host Rules:

    The host rules are: don’t be a $%#!, no excessive ATE*, don’t angleshoot or quote role PMs and/or host and/or private communication, follow site rules, GM will handle everything without consideration for alignment, GM reserves the right to modify remove or add rules as needed.

    *defined as: statements that directly say or imply that something in the game is having a negative impact on someone’s out of game relationships or well-being. if you believe the game is having a negative impact on your life and/or your health, please pm me on here or on discord (clemj/Nanook#8937). If you believe someone is engaging in excessive AtE, please message me here or on discord. This system relies entirely on stuff being reported to me. If you feel the need to vent and/or if you feel someone has crossed the line, please do not hesitate to reach out to me.
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    Game Thread Nvm someone left this laying around Wisdom

    Nvm someone left this laying around

    ##Vote Wisdom
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    Game Thread Elaborate

    Quote Originally Posted by in controL (#3043)
    eva has to be the biggest antiPartner for Swowl possible. I am starting to think that one of Nanook/Schweppes duo is pocketed.
    Elaborate
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    Game Thread You're making it v hard to not help with your...

    You're making it v hard to not help with your dumpstering today if these are the angles you're gonna take lol
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    Game Thread There it is lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#3000)
    Wait you said "Vivax" not "Vorros".
    My head. -.-
    There it is lol
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    Game Thread *not vivax lol

    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#3033)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2992)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2986)
    Lol eva is town, Wisdom is just a wolf with prob Schweppes. Nanook prob just town. Would kill Vivax now just cause their posts are just scummy
    Is that a CC soft?

    Why NANOOK town?
    Vorros is the JK not vorros
    *not vivax lol
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    Game Thread Vorros is the JK not vorros

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2992)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2986)
    Lol eva is town, Wisdom is just a wolf with prob Schweppes. Nanook prob just town. Would kill Vivax now just cause their posts are just scummy
    Is that a CC soft?

    Why NANOOK town?
    Vorros is the JK not vorros
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    Game Thread Like "nanook kills people that will push him" is...

    Like "nanook kills people that will push him" is not inaccurate but

    It also overlooks that Dale is right there lol
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    Game Thread That kill was made primarily to set up hells ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2983)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2981)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2980)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2978)
    Why dont you get an updated take on me first, because last I heard you've bedn scumreading for $%#! reasons for a while now.

    Like until I know you have an honest handle on my slot, which can be done fairly easily by checking my D2 posts first, then my EoD1 if you want more info about my worldview.
    Aight! I saw you being tilted at some point which I found kinda towny. Will iso you next!
    Wisdom, im going to be blunt here, I think your reads rn are $%#! and actively unhelpful and really would not be remiss if I just gave in and punted you with how grating they are to me.

    You simply cannot make reads off of salvaging random pieces of driftwood you see. It just doesn't work.

    Why should you care abt what HF thinks about NANOOK?
    He knows nothing about NANOOK and what you quoted there has zero detail.

    None

    Why woukd you even sheep something like that, its unbelievable.

    Im sorry, but the information you need is not easy to get and the HF iso is actually one of the least helpful places for info the moment you accept Vorros is JK and Im town and he wasnt around at the time to comment on much else relevant other than you.

    Granted I understand he couldve been nked, but nah, illwei's iso is a much better window into the game.

    Gosh this came out extremely harsh.

    I need to chill.
    Oh did Vorros shoot HF?
    lol I missed that, assumed HF was wolf killed since he claimed vig.

    But NANOOK tends to kill those who susses him, like, killing Cappu n1 in his Champs game was weird as heck but she was also one of the few people who wolf read him, so it would make sense for him to shoot HF.

    Gonna need to read up on Illwei as well then.
    That kill was made primarily to set up hells

    (Also it was Ricardo, cappu was in a different game)
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    Game Thread Bruh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom (#2976)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#2730)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2727)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#2725)
    If you wanna bounce stuff we can

    I'm kinda just not super interested in engaging with half the game rn lol
    Well, I’m gonna bounce lol

    But yeah: Eva - hot or not?
    Also, you seemed to take the other perspective on Wisdom, so I’m curious about that
    Mm excellent question, kinda been avoiding thinking about it tbh. I'd say probably fine today but I definitely do not have her clear. Prooooobably not teamed with wiz, for sort of nebulous gamestate reasons I couldn't properly explain even if I cared to.


    Yeah I kinda don't really see wiz as likely to bus swowl like that, my understanding of her scum game is that she's actually pretty loathe to bus, and also the PR claim into continuing to hard bus swowl is just...look I dont really expect her to be super good at tactics as mafia, if im being honest, but I expect a higher level of competency than that, there really wasn't a need to sacrifice two mafia d1 there imo, and you're more likely to draw out a CC by claiming a specific pr too, so. Yeah idk I don't really have the desire or the confidence in the read to fight against the wiz push but they kinda seem like wrong place wrong time town to me
    NANOOK's way of treating me this game feels very much like TMI. It's like his main focus this game/day is to look good if I flip.

    I need to do some NANOOK meta-research (I know what I'm looking for) but he's probably a wolf and eva's probably town.
    Bruh
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    Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2968)
    Hi, friends. Something happened last night, and I’m unsure if I’m able to participate much right now. Sorry
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    Game Thread Daddyship ended with Dale, Schweppes is my new...

    Daddyship ended with Dale, Schweppes is my new daddy

    ##Vote evakyoo
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    Game Thread ...Mafia can just push a pr claim they think is...

    Quote Originally Posted by matt (#2892)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2887)
    No no no
    this is straight up a bunch of BS

    BS
    absolute god-forsaking BS.

    convince me that the w!Wisdom argument doesnt just boil down to "Wisdom fakeclaimed hahah"

    and @matt here is telling me with a straight face that "Wisdom is w, because w!Swowl said they're w, so they must be w, shrugzies"
    The issue is that Wisdom claimed pr

    Mafia has no reason to assume town is lying about a PR claim.

    The conviction that owl had behind wisdom being a wolf was just way too confident given that she was a pr claim and was self resolvable.

    In fact, none of his other pushes even had any meat to them. He pushed people that voted Vivax and voted you, but didn't push anyone on those votes directly. Just the wagons as a whole. He also self pres'd on Eva while she was literally defending his life and gave absolutely no rhyme or reason behind it.

    The moral of the story is that owl was not confident in anything to push except for a pr claim. I just really felt he was in the know she was lying because they share a mafia chat together.
    ...Mafia can just push a pr claim they think is real, yeah? Particularly a mafia likely going over?
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    Game Thread Victim/persecution complex, notable lack of a...

    Quote Originally Posted by Escape from Los Angeles (#2890)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#2845)
    Dale going full republican this game
    Explain? I literally am a republican, how does that affect mafia?
    Victim/persecution complex, notable lack of a need to ground what he says in reality
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    Game Thread This is what I've been saying lol Bolded:...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic (#2882)
    yeah i'm actually struggling with this

    wisdom claiming there just makes swowl more likely to die so the suicide theory doesn't really work. because that just gets swowl killed and then themselves killed when they have to "un CC" at some point in the future

    and if she were suiciding i feel like she would claim a specific role also to get the actual PR to out, she clearly wanted to live there by not claiming a specific role

    but why did she claim there as town when she wasn't the top wagon and there were still several hours left
    This is what I've been saying lol


    Bolded: to try and draw the nk without outing an actual pr
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    Game Thread Dale going full republican this game

    Dale going full republican this game
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    Game Thread What does this mean and is it a good thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2816)
    I think I’m becoming a Nook. Without being a Nook.
    What does this mean and is it a good thing
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    Game Thread Maybe we'll see 🤷♀️

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2811)
    Quote Originally Posted by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR (#2810)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2808)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2807)
    I was going to say something about posting more, but then I remembered that no one is incentivized to rn except for @matt who is unfortunately not here.
    Kinda disappointed Matt chose not to be here with as many people clearing them town from the poison.
    ???

    He explicitly was waiting to see wiz claim, and its still pretty early in the day? Like

    He only has 200 posts plus eod to work with, chill lol
    Wisdom has come & gone & I doubt they come back
    Maybe we'll see 🤷♀️
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    Game Thread ??? He explicitly was waiting to see wiz...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale (#2808)
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweppes (#2807)
    I was going to say something about posting more, but then I remembered that no one is incentivized to rn except for @matt who is unfortunately not here.
    Kinda disappointed Matt chose not to be here with as many people clearing them town from the poison.
    ???

    He explicitly was waiting to see wiz claim, and its still pretty early in the day? Like

    He only has 200 posts plus eod to work with, chill lol
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    Game Thread Ripwei

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    Completed Yeah I lowkey threw between not sticking on 7c...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos (#284)
    Like we had it and i got voted out of nowhere lol betrayal
    Yeah I lowkey threw between not sticking on 7c (never do research smh) and not realizing luk had tied them on d1
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    Completed GGs

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    Completed Meh shouldve just stuck to 7c, rip

    Meh shouldve just stuck to 7c, rip
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    Completed Kill chaos, flip a coin between lol and 7c at f3...

    Kill chaos, flip a coin between lol and 7c at f3 if needed

    Hammer now
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    Completed Dya is a they fwiw

    Dya is a they fwiw
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    Completed Ok its probably just chaos lol Chaos

    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#164)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sadbi (#162)
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#158)
    Quote Originally Posted by sevenseas (#154)
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    ##Vote sevenseas
    why
    sheeping ladd's reads
    Ladd is sometimes wrong
    he's also often right
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#122)
    ##Vote sevenseas
    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#150)
    ##Vote sevenseas
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    Quote Originally Posted by dyachei (#150)
    ##Vote sevenseas
    why
    sheeping ladd's reads
    Ok its probably just chaos lol

    ##Vote Chaos
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    Completed Hang on gotta check something

    Hang on gotta check something
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    Completed sevenseas

    ##Unvote sevenseas
  48. Day 3#241

    Thread: huge slank cover

    by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
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    Completed sevenseas

    ##Vote sevenseas
  49. Day 3#238

    Thread: huge slank cover

    by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
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    Completed Ok kill seven seas kill chaos hope for the best

    Ok kill seven seas kill chaos hope for the best
  50. Day 3#233

    Thread: huge slank cover

    by NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
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    Completed Oh nice I was the check lol

    Oh nice I was the check lol
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