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    I'm kind of up for this, but I'm also little...

    I'm kind of up for this, but I'm also little worried about light games becoming too competitive and selective. Personally, I would let new players in for example and only remind them to be there. Subs are a problem you can't really avoid outside of turbo games.
    I guess running newbie lights alongside the competitive format would be another solution. One newbie light would allow new players to establish themselves as reliable and it could work as a check for you.

    Players getting points for winning is a good idea imo. Personally, I would add an extra point for staying alive.

    An award for being a regular participant keeps it light imo.

    I think that the setup shouldn't be for more than 13 players. I think it's a sweet spot for light games as 50 posts aren't usually necessary for smaller games and they can feel too restrictive in bigger games.
    Personally I like D6 and despite there being a possibility of town randing a full cop, I've never seen it happen. Tratious Mountainous is another one I find really interesting.
    Coming up with some kind of tracker 13er would be another great option imo.
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    Light in for now

    in for now
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    Thread: Forest Fire Mafia

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    Light Plz, make me a spectator. I want to see them...

    Plz, make me a spectator. I want to see them lynch firefighter d1.
  4. Postgame#1969

    Thread: Cupcake Wars D6

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    Completed That's great to hear, my friend. I'm looking...

    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaWard (#1967)
    This was really fun guys! I know we lost and stuff but I had a great time. I hope I get to play with y'all again!
    That's great to hear, my friend. I'm looking forward to that too.
  5. Postgame#1964

    Thread: Cupcake Wars D6

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    Completed Thanks for hosting, Fenrir. GG, waffles. Can...

    Thanks for hosting, Fenrir. GG, waffles.

    Can we speculate on subs now?

    Also, BATS you being in your wolf meta befuddled me completely. I think that Geyde mislynch was more of an atrocity than any other lynch. And sorry for not defending myself enough, but FTF changing my posts was a move I couldn't not wolfread.
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    Ok, I'm in need of some procrastination. Let's...

    Ok,
    I'm in need of some procrastination. Let's talk about all variants of the second draft of D4.

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    Inno Child + Doctor is an alright combination. The inclusion of inno child makes it more likely for Doctor to catch two kills. Jailkeeper isn't very useful for scum in this setup, but I could see it used as a counter claim to doctor. Role Cop and Tracker could make it little harsh for town if targeting doc n1.

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    Neapolitan + Bodyguard feels like a balanced setup. You can catch one wolf with your scan and their only chance is to cc bodyguard. The other wolf is relatively safe from this perspective. BG could also confuse wolf tracker if the slot manages to avoid claiming. Wolf prs give a slight edge to wolves, but they also make strategies more varied for them. Tracker and RC are both useful for them in this setup, JK could be used for messing up the claimed vigilante.

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    Tracker 9er is a classic

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    Doc + 2-shot vigilante feel little townsided as the vig gives town four kills in first two cycles. The vig's shots are very likely to end the game. In most cases this one would end in town sweeping the floor with wolves, if there weren't any mafia prs. A good use of these is crucial for covering ground and coming with a winning strategy (JK always jails the vig, RC and Tracker are used together with factional kill to cover as much ground as possible). Wolves trying to direct shot the second shot is an important part of the fun too.

    040
    JK 9er is another perfectly balanced classic.

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    Bodyguard might be just the right boost to make this a wee bit more balanced? Still it feel like the worst rand for town. The potential of full vig is great but wolves having a pr makes it wolf-sided as they have a good chance of discovering and killing the vig early.

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    Poisoner and Healer are an interesting 9er for me. There's need for covering them. It gives town a potential second kill, which might be a good seed for making the thread more active. All mafia roles seem to boost mafia about right. Role Cop is the most usable in this variant as it has a chance to uncover healer as well. Personally I like it.

    Ok, I find vigs to bee wee problematic. They're making it way more swingy. Could it be interesting to experiment with vengeful here instead of x-shot vig?
    I don't know how to replace full vig, tho.
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    Sticky: Manual Oops, I kind of haven't managed to make the...

    Oops, I kind of haven't managed to make the thread yet.
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    LQ 1. Is a joke. You can't role that setup 2....

    LQ

    1. Is a joke. You can't role that setup
    2. It adds a confirmable town, who can stop a bad poisoner. I think that a possibility to talk about the poison and makes it more balanced than Vig 9er. Also, a poisoned wolf can keep fighting instead of lolcatting.

    @ladd that's why I moved tracker one roll up in the second draft and paired vigilante with bodyguard (aka a claimable townie, who can help town getting another action in).
    And yeah, open or semi open 9ers with more than one role are problematic as lynching a wolf makes it really easy for town and killing a PR or both is crucial for wolves. On the other hand, town only has 1-2 mislynches.
  9. Postgame#10133

    Thread: Throne Mash

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    Completed Player data are mess tbh and they mostly include...

    Player data are mess tbh and they mostly include automated games. I still appreciate them for being able to grab meta fast.
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    Ok, I got little bored at work and made this...

    Ok, I got little bored at work and made this alternative version of my previous D4 design:

    1-2 investigative
    1 nothing (reroll)
    2 inno child
    3 neapolitan
    4 tracker

    3-4 protective
    1 bodyguard
    2 doctor
    3 full cop + doc
    4 jailkeeper

    5-6 killing
    1 nothing (reroll)
    2 2-shot vigilante
    3 vigilante
    4 poisoner + healer

    (If you're rerolling two dice, roll only one and add 2 to that group)

    Wolves:
    1 town PR: 2 goons
    2 town PRs one goon, one PR

    1-2 role cop
    3-4 JK
    5-6 tracker

    I made it so you never get more than two prs. Mafia randing JK could make some setups little scumsided but it works as both an anti-claim mechanic and jailing outed PRs only keeps them in the game.
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    Good to see this thread's alive. I've been...

    Good to see this thread's alive. I've been working on my version of downsized d6. The working title is D4 because you get 4 rolls and the game lasts max 4 days. It's a 9er btw.
    I think all possible rands are balance wise decent for town, some might be little more boring.

    D4 (semi-open setup)

    1-3 Investigative/Killing
    1 1-shot vigilante
    2 inno child
    3 tracker
    4 vigilante

    4-6 Protective/Manipulative
    1 bodyguard
    2 doctor
    3 roleblocker
    4 jailkeeper

    Wolves
    1 town PR - 2 goons
    2 town PRs - 1 goon, 1 pr

    1-3 role cop
    4-6 ???

    I take tracker 9er and jk 9er as balanced and fun open setups for 9 players and I tried to add little variance, but I feel like wolf prs might be just little too strong? Overall, I tend to wolfside my setups a little.
    Also with only two columns, there's not big space for guessing the variant and fake claims, but I don't care about that too much. I think that having five balanced variants is enough.

    1. JK 9er - balanced immo and fun to play.
    2. Vigilante 9er - definitely a wild one. Little swingy as it depends on the player randing vig a lot.
    3. Rb + 1-shot Vigilante can get messy but PRs also win town the game if played well. Balanced against role cop imo. Little more swingy than I would like it to be, tho.
    4. Tracker + Bodyguard - Bodyguard can give an outted tracker another action. I think role cop is fine at counter balancing it as it doesn't add much extra power to scum, just makes nights more interesting. It should prevent autos in f3s too.
    5. Doc + inno is a balanced setup. Inno makes it little more likely for doctor to get that extra day. Role cop makes nights more interesting for scum mostly.
  12. Day 1#513

    Thread: Cupcake Wars D6

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    Completed And probably lynch between Soneji and FTF

    And probably lynch between Soneji and FTF
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    Completed If you lynch me today, don't forget to lynch FTF...

    If you lynch me today, don't forget to lynch FTF tomorrow. Good night!
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    Completed Can I post pictures from my vacation?

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#508)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#502)
    Maybe if I keep distracting from the issue people will think I look good
    Can I post pictures from my vacation?
  15. Day 1#510

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    Completed Now, this is a thing of playstyle, not a wolfy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geyde (#500)
    Soneji in replying to individual posters in that gigantic wall opener is both interacting with all of those players and not putting in any of the effort it actually takes to interact with individual players
    Now, this is a thing of playstyle, not a wolfy pattern.
  16. Day 1#502

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    Completed FTF can you respond to Percy and elaborate on...

    FTF can you respond to Percy and elaborate on Soneji?
  17. Day 1#499

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    Completed yes, casing soneji.

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#493)
    @Capage aRe you still here?
    yes, casing soneji.
  18. Day 1#497

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    Completed There are two points in Soneji's wall i find...

    There are two points in Soneji's wall i find towny. Him calling out Batman for liking Litten's nai post (although he ends up closer to a town lean in his follow up post) and him calling the first half of Geyde's entrance fluff (111). Let's take a closer look at this one:

    Soneji's comment
    That first paragraph is just a long winded way of saying that you got nothing because you can't see scum machinations just in how people approach the one major scuffle. The Capage townread is pretty easy to make, and the logic behind it doesn't make much sense. I don't see how a scum!Capage making that claim doesn't also get this reaction here, since the read hinges on seemingly a lack of opposition to the claim which would also be the case in a scum!Capage world here unless it comes from his own packmates.
    I think this one's a valid point, but definitely possible to fake
  19. Day 1#473

    Thread: Cupcake Wars D6

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    Completed Ok, let's do it now. Because I want to know your...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geyde (#468)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#464)
    Quote Originally Posted by Soneji (#257)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate (#246)
    welcome Soneji, what do you think about everyone?
    Top of the head thoughts for people I didn't mention before :

    -Batman has been mainly talking about himself, his playstyle, his legacy so I'm taking a wait and see approach on him. It fits with his attitude after the Mad17 game but that is NAI as he would stick with it regardless of rand. Did like that he brought attention onto Gedye.

    -Capage has been doing some fair work out there, Slight town lean.

    -Yourself - haven't seen much substantial out of you yet, mostly just fluff. As much as I love a Three Musketeers bar, going to need you to get more solid, but don't go so hard to become bitter in the process.

    - Speed race just has the two rather NAI opening posts, need to see more from them
    I could see some w/w equity with me here. But because I'm not a wolf I know it's not there and there's some stuff I like in Soneji's big opening post, which I would like to discuss tomorrow. But this slight lean scares me a little as the wording is vague enough to be wolfy. Also the last line of this post is meh at best. I don't think that reaction was necessary.
    Also, all of his reads are very close to null.
    For now Soneji moves to w and Litten to v (for his Soneji read only, a possibility of him being a wolf is less and less likely imho).
    What's the point in waiting until tomorrow to discuss
    Ok, let's do it now. Because I want to know your (and your and your) opinion.
  20. Day 1#471

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    Completed https://66.media.tumblr.com/f962d60d67ab4a89ca6c37...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#454)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#450)
    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#444)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#443)
    This one line's correct. Sorry, I would love to stay but I got an appointment at 7 am.
    Btw, this was fun.
    YEAH THIS IS DEFINITELY FAKE LMAO
    I've been trying to be nice.

    Me too

    I think I've done a pretty good job
  21. Day 1#465

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    Completed Yeah, I need some sleep, but I'm also enjoying it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#451)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#446)
    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#442)
    Do you know what strikes me as off about this? Both sides seem fake. I just don’t know why, they both seem to be faking this thunderdome.
    I just want to get out of it, read Soneji's iso and go to bed. I guess reading isos doesn't even matter, because I'm not changing my vote now.
    “I want to get out of it”

    “This was fun”
    Yeah, I need some sleep, but I'm also enjoying it.
  22. Day 1#464

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    Completed I could see some w/w equity with me here. But...

    Quote Originally Posted by Soneji (#257)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate (#246)
    welcome Soneji, what do you think about everyone?
    Top of the head thoughts for people I didn't mention before :

    -Batman has been mainly talking about himself, his playstyle, his legacy so I'm taking a wait and see approach on him. It fits with his attitude after the Mad17 game but that is NAI as he would stick with it regardless of rand. Did like that he brought attention onto Gedye.

    -Capage has been doing some fair work out there, Slight town lean.

    -Yourself - haven't seen much substantial out of you yet, mostly just fluff. As much as I love a Three Musketeers bar, going to need you to get more solid, but don't go so hard to become bitter in the process.

    - Speed race just has the two rather NAI opening posts, need to see more from them
    I could see some w/w equity with me here. But because I'm not a wolf I know it's not there and there's some stuff I like in Soneji's big opening post, which I would like to discuss tomorrow. But this slight lean scares me a little as the wording is vague enough to be wolfy. Also the last line of this post is meh at best. I don't think that reaction was necessary.
    Also, all of his reads are very close to null.
    For now Soneji moves to w and Litten to v (for his Soneji read only, a possibility of him being a wolf is less and less likely imho).
  23. Day 1#450

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    Completed I've been trying to be nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#444)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#443)
    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#435)
    you'll settle for "going to bed" with the rest of the potatoes still voting me
    This one line's correct. Sorry, I would love to stay but I got an appointment at 7 am.
    Btw, this was fun.
    YEAH THIS IS DEFINITELY FAKE LMAO
    I've been trying to be nice.
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    Completed I just want to get out of it, read Soneji's iso...

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#442)
    Do you know what strikes me as off about this? Both sides seem fake. I just don’t know why, they both seem to be faking this thunderdome.
    I just want to get out of it, read Soneji's iso and go to bed. I guess reading isos doesn't even matter, because I'm not changing my vote now.
  25. Day 1#443

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    Completed This one line's correct. Sorry, I would love to...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#435)
    you'll settle for "going to bed" with the rest of the potatoes still voting me
    This one line's correct. Sorry, I would love to stay but I got an appointment at 7 am.
    Btw, this was fun.
  26. Day 1#439

    Thread: Cupcake Wars D6

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    Completed You know you won't convince me to unvote you with...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#433)
    "YES I CALLED YOU WOLF BECAUSE I CALLED YOU WOLF"

    again
    this is not solving

    you skipped all the $#@!ing things that go on with reads and tried to slip in tha you werent going to be there for eod


    so you've suggested pretty strongly tha you're settled on me with your $#@!ing coinflip reads

    get the $#@! out
    You know you won't convince me to unvote you with this. My reasoning for voting you earlier could be weak but it didn't deserve this fake thunderdome. It's fake because you're turning every single one of my words into lies without really analysing it. You're going over the top, forcing me to join you in your ridiculousness. It only cemented my vote, bro.
    Good effort, tho.
  27. Day 1#434

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    Completed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewc1hixzYPY

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#414)
    I CANNOT CALL YOU THE THINGS I WANT TO CALL YOU BUT ASSUME EACH OF MY POSTS ARE LADEN WITH SHARPED TONGUED, WITTY INSULTS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD
  28. Day 1#432

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    Completed 0 most of my reads are far from fake. I don't...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#411)
    oh also
    how many stupid $#@!ing excuses do I have to see you come up with to justify your stupid $#@!ing fake reads Capage

    how many
    0
    most of my reads are far from fake. I don't really have a read on Batman, he's my n0.
  29. Day 1#429

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    Completed Let me grab my gifs

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#410)
    SO YOU DARE STEP INTO MY THRONE ROOM YOU YOUNG DUMB FOOL

    DO YOU EXPECT REWARD FOR THIS FOOLISH ACT OF BRAVERY?
    Let me grab my gifs
  30. Day 1#428

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    Completed Now, it's you who's trying to navigate me as a...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#405)
    His approach has been god awful. He interacts with me as if he can't speak to me and is stuck making observations about me. His actions betray his perspective again this time because he's showing he doesn't view me as another player to figure out, I'm just a mislynch for him to navigate.
    Now, it's you who's trying to navigate me as a mislynch it seems. If you read back I talked about you and options. I have either you or Litten (with an outside chance of Trauma) as my first wolf. I settled on you, because Litten was solving.
    My observation was mild, because there wasn't any deeper observation to make about your list without stretching. There wasn't enough to chew on.

    So, this attack feels extremely forced to me, because you're only considering the scummy side of the coin.
  31. Day 1#415

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    Completed In this game? Nothing so far. I haven't offended...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#392)
    Now that the peanut gallery has been silenced

    CAPAGE

    mic is in your hands and it is HOT

    what do you think you did wrong?

    Hint: you did a lot wrong

    (25 marks)
    In this game? Nothing so far. I haven't offended or mislynched anyone so far. At least I hope so.
  32. Day 1#412

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    Completed What a menacing voice. Did you have waffles for...

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#389)
    No sleep for you my boy

    You're going to stay up now so I can tell you just how stupid your response was
    What a menacing voice. Did you have waffles for breakfast? I can feel them, they're surrounding your words.
  33. Day 1#407

    Thread: Cupcake Wars D6

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    Completed So, here's where I'm at and what I want to do: ...

    So, here's where I'm at and what I want to do:

    VVV - Batman, Chocolate
    VV - Hollowkatt, Percy, Abraxas (based on his attack on the voters of FTF)
    V - Wisdom, Traumaward
    null - Speedrace, Geyde (tbh), Soneji
    W - Litten
    WW - FTF
    WWW

    I'm def isoing Geyde, Soneji and Wisdom. I think I should have a lean on all of them. I put Geyde back in nulls because I feel like basing a scumread on someone leaving their town lean in their poe is a fallacy.

    Litten's still in w, but I like many of his posts more than stuff from other players. He's playing rather well but there's sometimes this feel of him making cases up. It will difficult to make a definitive read on acid.
  34. Day 1#385

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    Completed Litten, what do you think about FTF's latest...

    Litten, what do you think about FTF's latest string of posts? They're kind of weak. I don't think he would be this irresponsible as a villager, because the posts look like he didn't read the thread before making them. Hollowkatt's right that he posts one liners, but he's usually not a low effort villager. Also, I don't know how to make this without meta.
    But these look like informed reads:

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#376)
    Litten/Capage has one

    Hollow dumb town

    Batman/Percy town

    Soneji wolf
    hmm
    bolded is interesting. Bats and Percy are consensus towns but he had to read something to know that. Soneji being a wolf seems in line with Litten's reads, but he also has a wolf in me/litten. It's not that convincing overall.
  35. Day 1#382

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    Completed cool with me. I would say I took a lot from that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#380)
    I have been looking between those games and I can’t really see that big of a difference between them, the major thing may be how you approach the start of the day but that’s small still.

    I’m just going to try to read you without meta
    cool with me. I would say I took a lot from that one game in my town game.
  36. Day 1#379

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    Completed ok, this wasn't that convincing.

    Quote Originally Posted by FTFlush (#377)
    postreq met
    going back to bed

    ok, this wasn't that convincing.
  37. Day 1#378

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    Completed Ok, ninjad. I'll stick around for another 30...

    Ok, ninjad. I'll stick around for another 30 minutes, then.
  38. Day 1#375

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    Completed Guys, eod is at 4am for me. I need to be up at...

    Guys, eod is at 4am for me. I need to be up at 5:30 tomorrow. So, I've been considering two options.
    1)read the thread now and make my definitive read
    2)wake up at 3:30 and try to be helpful during eod. This has a bigger chance of me seeing FTF's reaction to his wagon but it also has a bigger chance of me not getting proper reads out.
    Would you opt for a or b?
  39. Day 1#372

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    Completed I think honesty is a good look for Trauma

    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaWard (#366)
    @Geyde, my push for you was based on other people's reaction to you. If we were to disregard those, I don't have a clear read on you yet, but I thought that your lynch might be indicative of the position of those other players.
    As I see it, you have the most controversy surrounding you. Which could be revealing.
    But no, I don't have a read on you specifically. It's more about the reactions of others.
    I think honesty is a good look for Trauma
  40. Day 1#370

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    Completed https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/22754...

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#365)
    Capage do you have a scum game I can look at too, from what I tell I can see similarities from this game and your villager game based on how you hedge a lot, however do you have a link to a wolf game so I can see how vastly different it is?
    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...-Game-D6-Setup

    Also, my champs qualifier, but I was too busy there to play. I don't have a newer example.
  41. Day 1#358

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    Completed At some point, if you don't make yourself more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geyde (#354)



    Not taking me out of PoE would mean you would be fine with lynching me
    At some point, if you don't make yourself more obvious with your posts.
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    Completed A mash and a hydra game. Or older games. But the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#352)
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    Capage do you have a town game of yours I can read?
    Try this one https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24420
    Do you have a game that isn’t a light game?
    A mash and a hydra game. Or older games. But the light one is the best example of my current towning imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#348)
    Capage do you have a town game of yours I can read?
    Try this one https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24420
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    Completed Despite me talking a lot about Litten, I still...

    Despite me talking a lot about Litten, I still think it's just FTF.
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    Completed I think the first post of Flush's ISO in Colour...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#345)
    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#337)
    Hollow, try to compare Flush's meta in wildcard game 1 and Deadly Confections or Colour Wheel. Even reading first few posts, playstyles differ. As town he asks questions, puts people in teams. As scum his only ai action was voting hyena.
    ngl I tried reading color wheel and just couldn't follow it. Image posting is hard for me to grok. I'll go through Deadly Confections though on your recommendation and see what I can see.
    I think the first post of Flush's ISO in Colour Wheel contains reads. But It was a mash It could be something else.
  46. Day 1#346

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    Completed Let me explain. V is the weakest of three tiers...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geyde (#339)
    This is the single $#@!tiest post to exist in this entire game
    Not only does Capage spend multiple posts reaffirming that they like my slot leading into this, but they still have my slot in the v pile (see post immediately after the quoted one) while making this post.

    Capage is fine with lynching my slot but still sees it as decently likely town
    This is blatant hedge on my slot considering there was nothing beforehand that would suggest that he scumread my slot
    Let me explain.
    V is the weakest of three tiers - town lean. VV could be considered strong town lean and VVV strong town read/lock town. So, yeah I'm hedgy with the read, because it's early and despite putting you in leans I don't consider you sorted out.
    I don't think I said I was fine with lynching you. I was fine with pushes on you.
    Frankly, what would I get from it as scum. Why even bother.
  47. Day 1#340

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    Completed There's something I dislike about this comment....

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#328)
    If flush is a wolf I think Soneji and Cabbage are also a wolf.

    The key thing to note here, is that wolves know who their partners are however villagers don’t know who the wolves are. Cabbage being that confident on him being a wolf there with so little posts, and then him faltering when it looks like people may make a change in the wagons to not lynch flush, doesn’t look good at all. It indicates to me a wolf who is scared to change the wagons off a wolf buddy, and is waiting for town to do it themselves.


    Quote Originally Posted by Soneji (#251)
    Some other stray thoughts :

    -Wisdom isn't giving me any strong town vibes like I got from them last time, but they have admitted that they've been off. It's very rare for me to locktown someone like I did them last game so I'm sure I can find them again if they're town.

    -HK vs Litten didn't come off as scum theatrics, so it's highly unlikely w/w. Litten's push while started off of very thin reasoning had a satisfying conclusion in their analysis of HK's reaction and how it would have differed if they were scum. HK's tone has been good so outside of weirdness with Capage's claim which is tinfoil until later, haven't found them scummy either.

    -FTFlush is having a $#@! it game from the looks of it, which can come from either alignment but one I figure is more fun as scum just from the perspective of seeing how long you can get away with openwolfing
    Soneji doesn’t have that much evidence compared to cabbage, however this read struck me as TMI. I don’t get how he’s gathering his flush alignment based off how much fun it would be as scum vs town, it seems like something you would only know by talking with them.

    Flush alignment isn’t dependent on how much fun it is to act like this.
    There's something I dislike about this comment. You're describing my actions giving them a motive you can't prove. And reading Soneji's posts, it looks like he's never w with Flush here. You don't call out your partner for openwolfing.
    Hovewer the soneji's post is interesting in its wording. The whole openwolfing thing smells of possible framing.
    On the other hand I find him to have very reasonable conclusions on wisdom and you/hk.
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    Completed Hollow, try to compare Flush's meta in wildcard...

    Hollow, try to compare Flush's meta in wildcard game 1 and Deadly Confections or Colour Wheel. Even reading first few posts, playstyles differ. As town he asks questions, puts people in teams. As scum his only ai action was voting hyena.
  49. Day 1#334

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    Completed This was before Soneji posted and Flush was rude...

    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#326)
    Wait what’s the difference between Flush and Soneji here? They both haven’t posted anything AI here, why do you have him as a WW compared to soneji?
    This was before Soneji posted and Flush was rude and not constructive. I just didn't like it from him. The vote on Percy seemed rather random.
  50. Day 1#333

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    Completed Now, yeah, I probably was too fast when reading...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#314)
    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaWard (#311)
    The more I'm thinking about it, the more I like Abraxas' post about the FTF wagon (P#290). I maybe was a little too hasty in my vote, I guess I wanted to get some sort of vote in.

    I guess I'm trying to decide who would give us the most info if we lynch them N1. Right now my thought is Geyde, there's been enough discussion about him that it's given me some vibes, and he's been a low-poster. I'll feel a lot more confident about Wisdom/Litten being town if he flips town.

    Does anyone else have any thoughts? For now I guess:

    ##Unvote FTFlush
    Yeah, I've got a thought. How does lynching Geyde give more information regarding Wisdom/Litten? There's not a conversation going on between the three of them, there's no real linkage there other than Wisdoms read as far as I can tell.

    I mean, say you flip Geyde and he's green, what does that tell you about wisdom? From what I can tell not much, really. Wisdom has a town read there and so sure, you might confirm that read but you're not getting any more alignment information about wisdom from a Geyde lynch.

    Litten literally only has this post re Geyde:
    Quote Originally Posted by Litten (#263)
    It seems to me people are scumreading Geyde for how he plays rather than him actually being scum. Geyde from what I can recall often does these thread reads. I’m leaning villager on him based off the fact that he hasn’t tried to distort the read reads into pushing an agenda.

    I’m still conflicted on whether or not thread reads are pseudo science however lmao.
    Lynching Geyde here also won't give you any more information about Litten than lynching FTF for example would.

    I think if you're looking for an information lynch you're not really going to find one today. Currently there's a couple of interesting conversations going around to either join in on with your thoughts, or to read the conversation and make some observations about the conversation itself.

    We would likely have a better information lynch opportunity tomorrow depending on how the wagons are forming EoD today and what the night results are, if any. We can use those events and tomorrows wagons to make better determinations on relationships, connections, and potential information gathering events. D1 is still mostly a combination of reads, gut feelings, and a bit of luck.
    Now, yeah, I probably was too fast when reading that unvote. It doesn't look so good after your analysis.
    I say there's wolf in Trauma/Litten/FTF.
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