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  1. support also hi ranmilia

    support

    also hi ranmilia
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    Walrus heh, that may be a bad sign for my general tastes...

    heh, that may be a bad sign for my general tastes

    grats cl
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    Walrus wait i'm not supposed to win my first category...

    wait i'm not supposed to win my first category back

    (thanks!)
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    Walrus i'm insentsed

    i'm insentsed
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    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wb8zWgEAvW...

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    chessboard people were totally onto something, thanks annulus for being first to it

    the thing i needed was that all the questions are "who", but the only real people relevant to the game are the players. so i did a freq dist of player names and saw that every letter was >= the given text. from there you can remove people based on counts and letters that don't appear, to get the usernames actually in it

    then it's 6 names, 6 pieces. every name starts from a place where white would have that piece on the board, when you've written out the letters in standard reading order, and moves according to how that piece moves. bop's was the second easiest to find (after the hint gave panther as the king), his S just flies off at the end because his pawn gets promoted

    anyone who talked about there being padding was also right, in a way, because there are two spaces left over
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    1. who wears the tallest hat? smilefires 2. who...

    1. who wears the tallest hat? smilefires
    2. who gets out of trouble one step at a time? Panther
    3. who is most likely to take on a dragon? jumpluff
    4. who marches onward towards greatness? bopolis
    5. who can approach from any direction? Secondhand Revenant
    6. who towers over the rest? bearsquared

    @Gordian
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    Completed no clock no round yet imo

    no clock no round yet imo
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    Completed bump?

  9. Postgame#4871

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    Completed o/ lissa iterated on a number of possible...

    o/

    lissa iterated on a number of possible setups, but in the end we just took matrix12 setup C and cut 2 VTs and shaved the vigi down to a 1-shot. which is honestly fitting for the game's title

    so uh, also credits to the matrix12 people
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    Completed i probably can't be around for the next hourish :...

    i probably can't be around for the next hourish : |

    hi sb tho
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    Completed i mean i think i just Lux and then get...

    i mean i think i just

    ##Vote Lux

    and then get salty if you're just taunting us with the game continuing
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    Completed :shifty:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4784)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4783)
    sup lux
    I’m trying to make memes but i’m doing it on my phone and they’re all too $%#!ing huge
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    Completed sup lux

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    Completed that it would always be 2 days from now which,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4780)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4771)
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4765)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4763)
    something bugs me about soah's plan in 4688 because moving up the sleeping is kind of banking on wolves not knowing who the tracker is, and that seems maybe too hopeful

    even if last wolf doesn't know, they get 2 shots at it back-to-back that way and then maybe there's nothing even left to claim at 5

    hopefully this does not post my entire MQ along with this
    Wolves would have 2 shots at it anyways regardless no?
    if you're going with the same mass claim timing, yes, but that doesn't have to happen at 4

    guess it's something to talk about again tomorrow

    i'm worried because when the game gets to be like this, the wolf really wants to slow things down if possible, and that plan would be slower than i usually see/think games should go
    what... are you thinking in terms of timing stuff wrt the claim? I’m confused
    that it would always be 2 days from now

    which, like, i don't really know

    eh, it makes sense now. i think i was worried about not having the lynch in between but like was said, that could blow someone's cover
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    Completed if you're going with the same mass claim timing,...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4765)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4763)
    something bugs me about soah's plan in 4688 because moving up the sleeping is kind of banking on wolves not knowing who the tracker is, and that seems maybe too hopeful

    even if last wolf doesn't know, they get 2 shots at it back-to-back that way and then maybe there's nothing even left to claim at 5

    hopefully this does not post my entire MQ along with this
    Wolves would have 2 shots at it anyways regardless no?
    if you're going with the same mass claim timing, yes, but that doesn't have to happen at 4

    guess it's something to talk about again tomorrow

    i'm worried because when the game gets to be like this, the wolf really wants to slow things down if possible, and that plan would be slower than i usually see/think games should go
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    Completed not today iirc, same as we weren't asking you to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#4766)
    weren't you guys going to collectively make fake track claims before ending the day?
    not today iirc, same as we weren't asking you to make one

    doing so today can only really eliminate people as the tracker if we guess randomly and wrong
  17. Day 4#4764

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    Completed why do searches time out as fast as they do

    why do searches time out as fast as they do
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    Completed something bugs me about soah's plan in 4688...

    something bugs me about soah's plan in 4688 because moving up the sleeping is kind of banking on wolves not knowing who the tracker is, and that seems maybe too hopeful

    even if last wolf doesn't know, they get 2 shots at it back-to-back that way and then maybe there's nothing even left to claim at 5

    hopefully this does not post my entire MQ along with this
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    Completed yeah i'm just kind of at, if that nightkill is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4752)
    Actually it was probably relevant to smiles but i didnt read his post zzzzz
    yeah i'm just kind of at, if that nightkill is anything alignment indicative for you, it's like, a slim tell that you're just town

    sb's on the other side of the coin saying it doesn't make you more wolfy on its own
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    Completed i want to enjoy part of my night and not be such...

    i want to enjoy part of my night and not be such a downer here so uh. tactical exit for now?

    if i'm up to it later i'll go actually read the wolves

    the shc thing is an open question bc i dunno how much weight i should be putting on it, and i apparently started with a baseline of "zero"
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    Completed i almost put "complacency" in the title of my...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4729)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4726)
    If we lynch Lissa and she’s not a wolf I have to answer to Newcomb being smug at endgame and I don’t want that.

    The voting record puts it over the top.
    Lissa is my “not being complacent” read for the day fwiw
    i almost put "complacency" in the title of my bigger post and took it out because i thought we weren't quite there, but maybe i xposted with the thread being sucked away by one of the ghostbusters vacuums
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    Completed at this point sheeping newcomb just means...

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4726)
    If we lynch Lissa and she’s not a wolf I have to answer to Newcomb being smug at endgame and I don’t want that.

    The voting record puts it over the top.
    at this point sheeping newcomb just means shrugging and lynching tsun though

    like i think he'd understand at least considering the possibility
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    Completed get out of my head i do wanna try to...

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4721)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4712)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4710)
    I have words but they can wait.
    maybe same?

    i'm tempering that as i actually read these posts

    is "weh" a word
    This doesn’t sound like a villager. This sounds like a wolf tilted and wanting the game to end right now because there’s no need to plan for the future.


    weh.

    is this too bad to say
    get out of my head

    i do wanna try to rationalize this though because there are glimmers of Not Quite That

    weh
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    Completed so like, part of what helped star get lynched was...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4719)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4712)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4710)
    I have words but they can wait.
    maybe same?

    i'm tempering that as i actually read these posts

    is "weh" a word
    Generally I would consider it a noise but it could be considered one I guess.

    (Serious note I’m just kinda thinking aloud at the moment and I feel like I have words in the abyss. Can you speak to me more about Lissa?)
    so like, part of what helped star get lynched was people noticing she'd escaped prior attention, and data for that were the (lack of) substantive votes on her prior to d3

    lissa kinda gives off that same energy to me

    her voting record is nice, but it loses something when you go poke into the context of those votes, and it's still somewhat consistent with "wolf PR who needs to be deeper"

    i don't remember too many reads that were actually warm on lissa until cuth's. the thing i was trying to work on with dya at eod2 was how she felt about lissa (among the other d1 tsaiah voters), so dya must have felt...at least not negatively. i had this feeling that either lissa was trying to escape attention or people didn't want to bring it to her and i was trying to investigate that
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    Completed nah i'm not settled

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami (#4717)
    hey dave, smiles wanna vote someone? don't really care who
    nah

    i'm not settled
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    Completed i'm not tempted to rush and also like, way freer...

    i'm not tempted to rush and also like, way freer tomorrow than i have been and should read cuth's posts too

    weekends have been kinda hell recently

    also i'm like legit concerned it may not be lux and i could have an actual thought with the shc thing
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    Completed maybe same? i'm tempering that as i actually...

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4710)
    I have words but they can wait.
    maybe same?

    i'm tempering that as i actually read these posts

    is "weh" a word
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    Completed lux, i don't really get what the tsun meta...

    lux, i don't really get what the tsun meta research did for you

    like you wind up at tsun sounding "similar" to FR-tsun, but did you get anything else usable
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    Completed all right i'm gonna do it i'm gonna read lux's...

    all right i'm gonna do it

    i'm gonna read lux's posts today
  30. Day 4#4705

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    Completed i mean, yeah, i know the kills are mandatory (and...

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#4687)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4682)
    is there ever a plan where we would want to sleep instead of ruining hypos?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#1)
    • Mafia factional kills are mandatory. Mafia must submit a factional kill each night, or a player outside their faction will be chosen at random.
    We have an even number of players and there's no chance anymore for a blocked kill. So we can sleep once without forfeiting a lynch.

    So... we potentially gain one extra clear?

    We can make this game last forever in the name of optimization.
    i mean, yeah, i know the kills are mandatory (and i usually assume mafia are always trying to kill even if the kill's optional). just numerically we have time to sleep once, and if the game is sufficiently long, then you get to "when"

    which is probably f4 a lot of the time, but if a plan would benefit from making that sleep happen earlier, it's something that could happen
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    Completed charisma and luminescence (or, "how the going...

    charisma and luminescence
    (or, "how the going gets tough when 3/4 of the tough are already gone")

    here is a list of alive people: smilefires, boquise, smartbomb, tsunami, davedob, lux, lissa, soah

    the problem with 3 dead wolves is it leaves near everyone with data that look good for their wholesome, towny brilliance and it becomes a needle in haystack game state. i mainly wanted to use this post to line up the motivating data for everyone and see where it takes me

    boquise

    why are people bothering to tinfoil on him again. don't answer that

    davedob

    dya was in lockstep with SR in a lot of ways and that still feels like a designated pocket to me. plus the team dynamics are really $%#!ty if you consider some of the interactions a wolf team with dya/dave on it has had to this point, particularly like...just read forward from here, in the lead up to eod2. i'm easily plied by wolves emoting at each other because it can get to a point where it doesn't feel like it Should Be that's what's going on, but i think i'm right to think dave's town here

    soah

    so, i like soah, but also star pushed on his predecessor kyretta for a while even after aby replaced in, and aby probably doesn't go make a big deal out of a star iso (which, to be fair, comes away seeing her relatively towny but then the impression declines) as the first order of business if they're on a team together. you'd also have to believe that 2 flipped wolves, after losing their other partner d2, decided their out to d3 was to bus their role cop, and that star was keeping that open as an option from very early on. something that's bothered me about soah himself is how against the grain he almost seems like he's trying to be - just at odds with what a lot of people in the game are thinking at any given time - but it's hard to ignore the rest of the slot

    tsunami

    tsunami's voting record is not the greatest. but. tsun was also never on a major wagon the entire game, with the biggest one being the third vote onto dya/dave on d1. tsun has also only ever been voted by unflipped players. so she fits the pattern of other wolves not drawing too much attention her way, but she also discards a lot of the cred she would have by just lynching her teammates. she had some waffle about not voting SR on d2 which we shouldn't forget about, but also had precedent for wanting to lynch him, and wouldn't be just simply hopping on unexplained if she wanted to

    smartbomb

    smartbomb is one of the reads that actually becomes more interesting in this game state, because the entire sequence happening earlier in d2 where SR tries to push mp7 and sb rebuffs him can only have max 1 of {(mp7/lux), sb} as a wolf now. i really think that was an important moment in the game - i asked SR about a scenario that might let him do eod1 differently, he reiterates being fine with the same lynches he wanted then, but wants to roast a new candidate, and sb gets on him about that. i think at the time, that was the first clear articulation of why anyone would want a SR lynch, past the cloud of suspicion that seemed to collect around him

    lissa



    many of these are later votes onto established wagons, though the first cuth one is interesting because that put the d1 tsaiah wagon to its highest height (prev voters: stan, mr. bomb, beru, dave), only for cuth to sub in and them to rather confidently townread each other and both vote for SR on day 2

    that tsaiah wagon was achieved in a relatively short amount of time d1, when it didn't seem too clear what was going to happen. i could believe that the wagon is pure, though lissa's vote is later than the others by a beat. like, supposing that was the lynch wagon right there, wolves would have missed out on a huge move from some very correct town if none of them made it onto that wagon

    lissa has been voted twice all game: once by me, once by smartbomb, for those who like that kind of data

    lux

    with the thought i put in purple in my post above, there's a chance that lux is supposed to be shc by hypo. there's also the matter of SR attempting to push mp7 on two occasions, and that suspicion not really catching on the second time. otherwise, that might be all i've got? lux had the stan vouch but is also a serial bus driver

    this is kind of an aside but if you're lux and cuth, and you see that line where lux could be shc, i guess you can't really eat that up, huh. someone in town can point it out, but it's a bit disincentivized to use to defend yourself if you think boq's not actually going to flip tracker because town can just choose to ignore shc

    _,.-'~'-.,__,.-'~'-.,__,.-'~'-.,__,.-'~'-.,__,.-'~'-.,_

    so i guess i'm not quite there. if i run with boq/dave/soah as my town, i need one more to be able to say "lynch these three and win", and among the rest, it's hard to break that tie and let someone in. if you ask me right now, lux is the wolf and tsun is the one i should move up for just being disconnected from every imaginable wolf plan (but by design? see this is what happens), but there's a good chance i'm leaving things out here that i should be remembering

    help?
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    Completed well so remember part of people's instructions to...

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4586)
    I mean my main point is that Lux n2.

    Nobody seemed to really take the results into account. If you want to get mechanical about it it's a reverse SHC.

    I can't really express thoughts right now I'm kind of crying into a bowl.
    well so remember part of people's instructions to boq while he was asleep (after he claimed PR) was literally to claim fake tracks if he wasn't the tracker. it's only a SHC if wolves believe it. i guess if that's what you mean by "nobody" though then i'm up to speed


    hm. so here's a thought. do wolves also not kill boq if they don't want to create the world where there are two (correctly) shc people?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4607)
    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#4606)
    Can't really lock clear Smiles for the SR argument at D1. SR had an early D1 argument with DS in the finals
    I mean from what I understand SR actually doesn't like DS and that argument didn't seem entirely faked.

    Pretty sure SR and smiles not liking each other is pretty unlikely.
    i haven't consciously brought anything personal into the game fwiw (and if SR's got something personal with me, i don't really know it)

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4642)
    Oh.

    70% and I kinda also blame newcomb if wrong. Strongly think if Tsu town then smiles town for the same reason Tsu town heh.
    lol, i am still a little weirded out by how long newcomb spent shoring up the me read

    like i wouldn't let that stop you from doing your diligence, but if it works for you then it does

    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4645)
    Hey sb it wouldve been nicer if it was all one post because my eyes keep glazing over with “aight ur point?”
    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4649)
    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4636)
    <a big list of points in a single post>
    A lot of this is wrong but if you’re confident in it then go off
    good contrast

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#4661)
    We can't have everyone doing random hypo-tracker stuff tomorrow because whoever allows their "cleared" player to be lynched will rule themselves out as tracker.

    So we need a plan.

    If we all agree on a person to track, then the wolf can freeroll on killing that person and hope they're the tracker.

    If we have one person hardclaim VT and agree to be tracked, then the wolf can kill that person to limit the number of cleared players but they'd forfeit a chance at actually killing the tracker. So we'd have 2 PRs alive at f6. This is kind of mediocre for us because then f4 could end up as a claim battle, which is okay but not as good as we should be aiming for.

    So I guess instead the plan should be to agree on who we will definitely lynch tomorrow so that we do not track or hypo-track that person? And I guess that person would be Tsunami, which on the one hand makes sense but on the other hand I'm not really feeling it super strong to the point that I'd want to commit to it 100% without doing more research? So yeah.

    The other option would be to just assume that the tracker hardclaims tomorrow as long as Boq and their check both survive the night, giving us 3 clears. But this is only an improvement over the potential claim battle scenario if the tracker expects to lose that claim battle, in which case they claim tomorrow... but then if there's no claim tomorrow it creates WIFOM at f4.

    ##Unvote Lux
    without thinking about the ramifications here too hard, part of the point of hypotracking is that the hypos seem relatively random and not necessarily uniform random. i think if you asked everyone in the playerlist to just pick a name, we'd still be able to wind up with a lynch candidate tomorrow and it's not as bad as you think it might be. but we do have the context of an entire game, so the ideal world almost seems something like, have a poe of multiple people, hypo one of them going nowhere and then push to lynch among the other(s)

    is there ever a plan where we would want to sleep instead of ruining hypos? i don't think so (and i'm not sure we'd ever want to sleep until 4 anyway if the game even manages to get there), but i'd be open to kicking around an idea like that

    anyway brb making a pretty manifesto
  33. Day 4#4489

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    Completed yeah ok it's probably not tsun this is my page...

    yeah ok it's probably not tsun

    this is my page 45 read

    also i should stop posting until i come up with something for 8888
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    Completed someone reminded me this existed yesterday, which...

    Quote Originally Posted by star-crossed (#2403)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion (#1895)
    Cuthalion
    Stanari
    Lissa

    star-crossed
    Tsunami

    kyretta
    smilefires

    Boquise
    Lux

    SmartBomb
    dyachei

    Secondhand Revenant
    kirkfan2255
    Ok it is within 5 minutes of saying you felt Kirk was being natural and having a focus that is different than you think a wolf might have.

    I can understand one thing feeling more important than the other but still. It would be more understandable to me if your list wasn't as broken up as this I think, because your opinions seem distinct
    someone reminded me this existed yesterday, which means both star and SR would be pushing on cuth with the same point

    so that puts wolves busing firmly in character, but both SR and cuth were just goons

    not sure that we'd see the same pattern with the role cop at that point in the game. would have to depend on how much they knew/needed the role. it's been said the stan kill means they copped right, but there still being 2 roles out there means it still has some use
  35. Day 4#4477

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    Completed psyduck it actually doesn't matter what wolf...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4470)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4467)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4462)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lissa (#4452)
    oh yeah we should all leave tracker cover from now on I think.

    being tracked to nowhere ln is. semi? clearing? they could have done exactly like, cuth carries shot + rolecop holsters. nowhere tracks tonight and on are just clearing.
    but there's no guarantee of not hitting a mafia member that just didn't make the kill that night
    there is 1 wolf left
    I was gonna argue but then I remember it's the role cop that's left
    psyduck

    it actually doesn't matter what wolf is left, kills are assigned
  36. Day 4#4468

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    Completed i don't think that was an assumption being made...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4459)
    Fwiw since Tsunami’s vote looks like a greeting vote towards Abyssum I’m not sure I would assume 3 wolves on Soah but it’s not “out of the realm” I guess
    i don't think that was an assumption being made so much as an idea

    the less serious the vote, the less i care about reading it seriously into the wagon anyway
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    Completed did you read my thing about having vigi claim ...

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartBomb (#4440)
    Boq PR.
    Dya spewed by star, pretty sure? Also not w/w with both Cuth and SR. That's kind of crazy I think. Dave townsiding.
    Lissa I'll lynch in f3 and blame Newcomb for getting it that far.
    Lux... I'll reread but tonally town so far.
    smilefires does have a bunch of spew regarding SR. Initial instinct is that star and smilefires's tactical avoidance of each other is probably v/w. Like the "idk how to read this person" etc etc.
    soah, spewed off in the first thirty minutes.
    Tsunami, pushed a few wolves but never actually lynched them. z

    Mm.
    did you read my thing about having vigi claim

    do you think that's fine or nah

    i could see it being not fine now that i think about it, with boq already being semi-out
  38. Day 4#4433

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    Completed yeah that's what i meant that's never the push...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4429)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#4419)
    Retrospective Day 3 Votecount as of Post #3434

    Post #3434 was originally posted at 4:52 AM EST on Friday, February 8th, 2019.

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    3 soah Tsunami, Cuthalion, star-crossed
    2 star-crossed SmartBomb, Boquise
    2 Newcomb DaveDob, soah
    1 DaveDob smilefires
    3 Not voting Newcomb, Lux, Lissa

    View Vote History

    End day at majority is enabled.

    Day 4 ends at 11:00 PM EST on Monday, February 11th, 2019. There are 1549944060000 remaining.

    Requested by smilefires at 1 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes, 59 seconds remaining.
    This however does look favorable to Soah villa though
    yeah that's what i meant

    that's never the push that wins you the game if you're the wolfteam
  39. Day 4#4423

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    Completed ok yeah, with cuth also voting there, that's...

    ok yeah, with cuth also voting there, that's borderline cannibalistic
  40. Day 4#4414

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    Completed .

    Quote Originally Posted by star-crossed (#3434)
    Unfortunately, I am really slowing down mentally. My work schedule for tomorrow got changed to be even dumber for the end of day, than it already was. I do not think I can be here at all, for the last 10+ hours. I will see what time I can make in the morning.

    I do not even know if I should say what I am thinking about Boquise.

    I am more sus of kyretta as a teammate of SR, than of kirkfan. The substitutions are getting increasingly jarring. I appreciate the thought and time abyssum put into her big post on me, but I kind of do not know how to integrate it, with the questions and concerns I have with kyretta.

    ##Vote abyssum
    .
  41. Day 4#4413

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    Completed he claimed PR but not which one, and then we got...

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#4409)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4404)
    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#4394)
    And I guess Boquise is in my POE too just because I threw out my old reads and haven't gotten to the part of the thread where he actually exists.
    boq is literally dead in the water as wolf in this game state; wouldn't bother reading for alignment
    I was mentioning it for the sake of being perfunctory. I don't even know what he claimed or why he claimed.
    he claimed PR but not which one, and then we got him to put tracks out there anyway to pretend to be the tracker if he isn't

    he claimed because early yesterday sucked and everyone was eyeing him, and he thought it'd be better if people weren't doing that
  42. Day 4#4411

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    Completed i'm basically just reading 3816 he kinda...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4406)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4399)
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4395)
    Newcomb kill doesn’t make sense but I’m trying to remember what direction he was looking at that didn’t include Cuth and Star
    mostly the one with your slot in it i thought

    Yeah but that was like a “1 between Cuth/DyaDave” thing because of day 1 vote. (And I know I’m town so me being in a push is useless)
    i'm basically just reading 3816

    he kinda leaves the tsun/lux/soah block as "to deal with later" but tags it 0~1 wolves
  43. Day 4#4407

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    Completed well i sure hope she didn't because she had the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lux (#4401)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4397)
    soah is just the easy vote yeah

    i originally wanted to open today with a post where i just go "so, uh" and vote him because i'm hilarious

    other thoughts

    cuth and lissa hard aligned question mark

    vigi claiming might be fine? i said i'd revisit the question but we just have infinite time now

    dave is Okay, I Guess
    I feel like lissa might be more along the lines of spew cleared?

    just because I don't think lissa busses star and if she does I can't really see the reason why since it doesn't really get her out of poe?
    well i sure hope she didn't because she had the star read i actually liked

    by "hard aligning" i was thinking, it's possible for one of them to fool the other but cuth's early lissa read also felt like a super easy thing for him to make. pocket central. so yeah, spew likelihood
  44. Day 4#4404

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    Completed boq is literally dead in the water as wolf in...

    Quote Originally Posted by soah (#4394)
    And I guess Boquise is in my POE too just because I threw out my old reads and haven't gotten to the part of the thread where he actually exists.
    boq is literally dead in the water as wolf in this game state; wouldn't bother reading for alignment
  45. Day 4#4399

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    Completed mostly the one with your slot in it i thought

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4395)
    Newcomb kill doesn’t make sense but I’m trying to remember what direction he was looking at that didn’t include Cuth and Star
    mostly the one with your slot in it i thought
  46. Day 4#4397

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    Completed soah is just the easy vote yeah i originally...

    soah is just the easy vote yeah

    i originally wanted to open today with a post where i just go "so, uh" and vote him because i'm hilarious

    other thoughts

    cuth and lissa hard aligned question mark

    vigi claiming might be fine? i said i'd revisit the question but we just have infinite time now

    dave is Okay, I Guess
  47. Day 4#4393

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    Completed hey are we ahead now

    hey

    are we ahead now
  48. Day 3#4371

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    Completed i don't really remember where she used SR to push...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4340)
    Quote Originally Posted by smilefires (#4333)
    Quote Originally Posted by DaveDob (#4311)
    @smilefires do you think anything of my play today at all?
    so i know you inherited your vote but you feel like you're not that interested in sorting star to me, when you've def been going through isos for other people, but she's still in your poe and that is head tilt

    also just because i saw it in passing, aby didn't exist in the game yet to be able to have that one thought about SR when it happened. so like, whatever if you're not taking it to mean anything for soah, but the thought itself is still kinda clicky for me

    i guess in that world, i just think newcomb's a wolf, huh

    well this got introspective but i hope that helps
    I've looked at Dya's perspective on Star where they escentially used SR to push Dya weakly and never really pushed SR. I agreed that it looked wolfie knowing the perspective that Dya is town (and thus me being town) Star hasn't really been around for me to solve that slot further.

    I realized after I got that thought about Aby wrong because timing was wrong on my end. Sue me.
    i don't really remember where she used SR to push dya, huh

    i've lose control of my life
  49. Day 3#4360

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    Completed Newcomb

    ##Vote Newcomb
  50. Day 3#4342

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    Completed i knew SR was in there but i forgot star was ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion (#4321)
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomb (#4317)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion (#1895)
    Cuthalion
    Stanari
    Lissa

    star-crossed
    Tsunami

    kyretta
    smilefires

    Boquise
    Lux

    SmartBomb
    dyachei

    Secondhand Revenant
    kirkfan2255
    D2 reads list from Cuth.

    Kinda feel like Cuth should have been pushing my slot, like... a lot harder? His 2nd to top wolfread flips red, but ever since I've been in the game it feels like Cuth is treating me with more like... disgruntlement, than coming for my head.
    if it makes you feel better uh

    star and sr too maybe? tore into me for that post because i'd just said that i liked a stan/kirk interaction and said that that readslist was incongruous with my posts

    at that point none of my reads below like

    tsun

    were really of any serious strength
    i knew SR was in there but i forgot star was

    would be weird for SR to run with that if things were already unraveling for him, since i didn't think he was the one who came up with it, but i forgot who did
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