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i can't do this

oh wait we won

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Hmmm

Actually I think I'll eliminate Wiml/Eliphas as a world

Originally Posted by Honey 1614448866 (#726)

oh 5 hours remaining that's great...... last time i checked this i was going to iso fwo but it showed any posts that mentioned fwo which isnt what i wanted anyways i havent read the last 5 pages but i tred fwo d1

they're voting me? maybe just bc ive been afk? thats the only thing that would ping my scum radar since im town and it could be opportunistic im actually gna read right now and try to find their reasoning

please do, and come back with a response

Originally Posted by Mafia Host 1614448681 (#725)

Diffusion of Power Day 2 Votecount

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
2	fwogcarf	Syn (21), Wisdom (12)
2	Wisdom	neopest (22), Master Radishes (40)
2	Honey	fwogcarf (63), Wiml (32)
1	Master Radishes	Esooa (32)
4	Not voting	Honey (1), BlueKang (7), Eliphas (5), Gira (19)

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End day at majority is enabled. With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to reach majority.

Day 2 ends at 6:00 PM EST on Saturday, February 27th, 2021. There are 1614466860000 remaining.

Posted at 0 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes, 59 seconds remaining.

wouldn't it be funny if we randed

@Syn why are you still voting me btw

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614448372 (#720)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614448094 (#713)

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614438716 (#705)

Originally Posted by Wisdom 1614434650 (#700)

I'd say it at least makes Eliphas town 99% of the time.

I severly doubt that a wolf would fake a v peek on their only town mate, that's waay too much of a d2 gambit.

If I claimed a town peek on my scumbuddy with only 2 scum left, I either get chopped early on (and Eliphas would probably be next if I flipped red) or we get to F5 with zero red flips and probably lose when people realise what happened. Also, this was unlikely, but a real N1 cop could have red checked Eliphas (because I think they were a fairly likely target) and counterclaimed me, not a likely outcome but a literally game ending one for that hypothetical wolf team.

Tl;dr you don't need to believe I'm town but you can at least almost certainly believe that Eliphas is.

Eh

I'm not sure faking a red check would be a more optimal play then faking a green check on someone in this situation

Sorry, I'm saying if Eliphas were my scumbuddy I would and should always fake a town check on somebody who isn't my scumbuddy which means that Eliphas is town irrespective of how you read me.

yeah that makes more sense

if you just fake a red check and town finds out it's fake then that's an easy chop

Originally Posted by Honey 1614104676 (#303)

transcend if u dont get ur stinky paws off me...

This post right here makes me thing that Honey killed Transcend

Originally Posted by Honey 1614356020 (#590)

ngl i had 2 exams on the day votes were due and finished just to log in 10 mins after thread closed

also why are ppl voting radish .. they voted mafia d1? i need to catch up and read but just wanted to post that im alive

how does this come from town

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614447746 (#711)

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614446863 (#710)

Honey feels like a too easy vote (I say looking only at post count and not content of her posts).

I'm mostly voting her because she seems to have completely lost the will to play around the time when grimdog was lynched / pressure.

She made a really bad post about Radishes today

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614438716 (#705)

Originally Posted by Wisdom 1614434650 (#700)

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614426120 (#693)

I'm inclined to believe a claim like that because I don't know that the scum are bold enough to fake a claim right away when they don't know whether to expect a CC or not.

Future claims I'd be more open to question.

(Except mine, of course.)

I'd say it at least makes Eliphas town 99% of the time.

I severly doubt that a wolf would fake a v peek on their only town mate, that's waay too much of a d2 gambit.

If I claimed a town peek on my scumbuddy with only 2 scum left, I either get chopped early on (and Eliphas would probably be next if I flipped red) or we get to F5 with zero red flips and probably lose when people realise what happened. Also, this was unlikely, but a real N1 cop could have red checked Eliphas (because I think they were a fairly likely target) and counterclaimed me, not a likely outcome but a literally game ending one for that hypothetical wolf team.

Tl;dr you don't need to believe I'm town but you can at least almost certainly believe that Eliphas is.

Eh

I'm not sure faking a red check would be a more optimal play then faking a green check on someone in this situation

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614426216 (#694)

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614426120 (#693)

I'm inclined to believe a claim like that because I don't know that the scum are bold enough to fake a claim right away when they don't know whether to expect a CC or not.

Future claims I'd be more open to question.

(Except mine, of course.)

There are possible duplicates of the same role on the same day (for example, Transcend claimed N5 cop but that doesn't mean there can't be other N5 cops).

I'd recommend not claiming honestly since mafia know how many docs and cops there are

It'd just narrow down their search of unclaimed cops

Originally Posted by Wisdom 1614422362 (#677)

Originally Posted by Esooa 1614380296 (#635)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614177956 (#344)

##Vote grimdog

I will say though there's probably a wolf on Kang rn

very good vote

I thought this was good, but then I remembered fwog has bussed like this d1 before.

##Vote fwogcarf

Back I goooo~

when did i do that

Originally Posted by Syn 1614404521 (#670)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614403650 (#668)

Originally Posted by Syn 1614398497 (#664)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614397265 (#663)

Eliphas/Wiml (the only world I can see that has these two as mafia)

Wiml can easily be a wolf

also lol at this post

"two wolves left guys, there's only world I can see that could possibly have eliphas and wiml as teamed wolves"

??? well yeah

what

you said you can see only one world where eliphas and wiml are wolves together

but there are two wolves left

so... yeah?

ok i thought you meant that you completely agreed with my statement with a weird explanation

Originally Posted by Esooa 1614398677 (#665)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614397265 (#663)

Eliphas/Wiml (the only world I can see that has these two as mafia)

Esooa/Wisdom
Esooa/Honey
Esooa/Syn

Gira/Honey
Gira/MR
Gira/Wisdom
Gira/Syn

Honey/Syn
Honey/MR

MR/Syn

This isn't fully developed but I like where I'm at

tbf wiml could be faking a green on a townie

I'm inclined to believe that their claim is real but that is a possibility

Originally Posted by Syn 1614398497 (#664)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614397265 (#663)

Eliphas/Wiml (the only world I can see that has these two as mafia)

Wiml can easily be a wolf

also lol at this post

"two wolves left guys, there's only world I can see that could possibly have eliphas and wiml as teamed wolves"

??? well yeah

what

Eliphas/Wiml (the only world I can see that has these two as mafia)

Esooa/Wisdom
Esooa/Honey
Esooa/Syn

Gira/Honey
Gira/MR
Gira/Wisdom
Gira/Syn

Honey/Syn
Honey/MR

MR/Syn

This isn't fully developed but I like where I'm at

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614396429 (#661)

I like esooa's progression on MR

Eliphas has cool posting

wagon read no way gira/wisdom is a world

Actually now that we're down to two wolves i can make worlds now lets go

will post my possible worlds in a moment

I like esooa's progression on MR

Eliphas has cool posting

wagon read no way gira/wisdom is a world

Originally Posted by Eliphas 1614390188 (#652)

Originally Posted by Wisdom 1614327539 (#555)

Sweet yeet!

Can't remember anything grim said, need to iso later and see if I agree with Neo's take on the spew.

Wiml->Eliphas likely town.
Syn also likely town.

Giving me a town pile of
Eliphas
Esooa
Honey
MR
Neo
Syn
Wilm

Meaning wolves should be in
Blue
Gira
Fwog

##Vote fwogcarf

Ime, wolves tend to try and leave the POE wide open, unlike what Wisdom has done here. The problem with this list is I am not seeing the reasons some of the 'townpile' are there and how you have arrived at the POE you have. Can you expound on the reasonings for your Honey, MR, Syn, Blue, and Gira read's?

Good post

Originally Posted by SchizoAffected 1614392700 (#656)

Originally Posted by Mafia Host 1614294061 (#444)

Diffusion of Power Night 1 Results

Transcend has died. They were: Town.

Night 1 has ended.

Night 1 ended at 6:00 PM EST on Thursday, February 25th, 2021.

Transcend was a Town Cop

(Sorry, everyone, I forgot that I was going to reveal the roles this way. I won't be late again).

hmmm

considering that mafia know how many doctors and cops there are we probably shouldn't claim for the rest of the game

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614379658 (#630)

I'm concerned that Honey has dropped off the radar.

I'm also concerned that Eliphas Eliphas scummy might get me lynched to verify them Eliphas please be towny.

not off of mine

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614361307 (#614)

I love how your 'AKA' is 'fwogcarf22' as if anyone might see that and be confused as to whether is more than one fwogcarf.

lmao

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614360953 (#608)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614360837 (#606)

Originally Posted by Gira 1614358835 (#595)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614356034 (#591)

but what I also find kind of strange is that town!Neo catches a wolf

why don't wolves just kill neo there, neo's a clear voice of reason

transcend was very obviously cleared and whoever is scum either wasn't paying attention to his claim or did not care about it

if you don't care about the claim why still kill them instead of neo

Because Transcend was gonna be cleared off the grim chop anyway?

oh ok

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614359502 (#598)

Let me drop some truth bombs, then.

Fwog isn’t partnered with Grim because of their opening salvo. I don’t think grim is a confident wolf so I’m expecting soft interactions are what to look for. I can’t be bothered to articulate why but these interactions feel like grim is talking to a townie.

Similarly, grim is likely not aligned with neopest for their opening interactions. In a vacuum they *could* potentially be associative but that ‘LOOOL’ in 158 really just puts the nail in the coffin of that idea imo.

Gira came down on Grim probably too hard to be partnered too.



So I've found three town just from Grim's iso & a brief glance at EoD.

Have I broken the game wide open yet?

cool, that's something

Originally Posted by Gira 1614358835 (#595)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614356034 (#591)

but what I also find kind of strange is that town!Neo catches a wolf

why don't wolves just kill neo there, neo's a clear voice of reason

transcend was very obviously cleared and whoever is scum either wasn't paying attention to his claim or did not care about it

if you don't care about the claim why still kill them instead of neo

Right now sitting at an MR/Honey scumteam (especially with that last post that Honey just made)

Neo and Bluekang are town

@Eliphas would like to hear more thoughts from you

Will be back later

Originally Posted by Honey 1614356020 (#590)

ngl i had 2 exams on the day votes were due and finished just to log in 10 mins after thread closed

also why are ppl voting radish .. they voted mafia d1? i need to catch up and read but just wanted to post that im alive

yeah and so did 6 other people

your point?

but what I also find kind of strange is that town!Neo catches a wolf

why don't wolves just kill neo there, neo's a clear voice of reason

You know what I'm just gonna ISO you neo

maybe that'll quench my suspicions of you

Originally Posted by neopest 1614355530 (#584)

Yeah fwog is just wolf, isn’t he

awoo

Honey spent like half the day trying to convince Transcend that she was town and it didn't work lol

and then they did nothing else except interact with gira

##Vote Honey

Originally Posted by Gira 1614355317 (#582)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614354230 (#573)

Originally Posted by Syn 1614321339 (#552)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614320835 (#551)

Only person who I'm calling town right now is Wiml

Good night

what about his green peek

Didn't like Eliphas's reaction to it so no

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614354558 (#577)

And I am not letting Eliphas go under the radar just because they have cop backup

w h a t

just because eliphas has a green check on them doesnt mean they can become a dead slot

@Master Radishes hello sir would you like to play the game so i can stop wolfreading you for doing nothing

MR/Honey team that kills Transcend n1

dont feel super confident but it could happen

Honey was super leninent on getting transcend off of her...

Originally Posted by Mafia Host 1614354634 (#578)

Retrospective Day 1 Votecount as of Post #441

Post #441 was originally posted at 6:01 PM EST on Wednesday, February 24th, 2021.

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
7	grimdog	Transcend, Gira, neopest, Master Radishes, BlueKang, Wiml, Eliphas
1	BlueKang	grimdog
1	Gira	Esooa
1	Master Radishes	fwogcarf
1	Syn	Wisdom
2	Not voting	Honey, Syn

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Requested by fwogcarf.

wagonomics read wolf in Gira/neo/MR/Kang

don't think both wolves pile on there though, maybe honey is a wolf here

And I am not letting Eliphas go under the radar just because they have cop backup

I still really don't like neo's vote on wisdom even though i don't tr wisdom anymore

Originally Posted by BlueKang 1614334528 (#561)

I don't get what angle Fwog is taking.....there's a lot of discrediting townreads and refusing to call anyone town....only outs a townread on Wiml but not the person he just reported town?

you gonna wolfread me for it, i don't really care

i'm trying to gather thoughts and this game just hasnt been it so far

Originally Posted by Wisdom 1614334252 (#560)

Originally Posted by Esooa 1614332177 (#558)

I think fwog is town

Why?

I mean, have you seen the difference between his "actually playing the game" town meta and his "slacker who doesn't really care" wolf meta?

when was the last time you saw me "actually play the game" as town

Originally Posted by Wisdom 1614327539 (#555)

Sweet yeet!

Can't remember anything grim said, need to iso later and see if I agree with Neo's take on the spew.

Wiml->Eliphas likely town.
Syn also likely town.

Giving me a town pile of
Eliphas
Esooa
Honey
MR
Neo
Syn
Wilm

Meaning wolves should be in
Blue
Gira
Fwog

##Vote fwogcarf

pretty balsy poe for day 2 but whatever

how is honey town, i havent seen them at all yet

Originally Posted by Syn 1614321339 (#552)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614320835 (#551)

Only person who I'm calling town right now is Wiml

Good night

what about his green peek

Didn't like Eliphas's reaction to it so no

interesting

Only person who I'm calling town right now is Wiml

Good night

Originally Posted by neopest 1614316307 (#541)

i wonder if the reason fwog flipped out so hard over wisdom is because they're partners

actually it was for a different reason but go ahead and assume that

Originally Posted by Esooa 1614314275 (#538)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614300238 (#482)

Originally Posted by Master Radishes 1614297121 (#472)

Fake openwolfing is definitely gonna convince fwog I'm town.

##Vote Master Radishes

im literally going to deathtunnel you now

chill bruh. This isn't going to help

what the $%#! am i supposed to do he's not doing anything

ok i guess wisdom's d1 wasnt as good as i thought it was

neither was esooa's

Originally Posted by Gira 1614302091 (#528)

wiml does absolutely nothing after this, he used his shot, shooting him just hardclears eliphas

oh

i didnt think about that lol

Originally Posted by Gira 1614301951 (#525)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614301580 (#514)

Why did scum kill Transcend night 1? They were the only PR claim

Like I said, I don't think they want any chance of clears going around, especially with claims

is this a scumslip lmao?

##Vote fwogcarf

dont understand how it is but ok

Originally Posted by Syn 1614301776 (#520)

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614301580 (#514)

Originally Posted by Gira 1614301406 (#511)

Originally Posted by Wiml 1614300299 (#483)

It is possible that it's just Syn/Radishes and they've given up?

doubrtful in spie of what i said earlier, trollin' is their style and i'd expect it from them as town, so, meh

Originally Posted by fwogcarf 1614300886 (#500)

if you are cop scum just kills you n2

given what they did with transcend they dont want any clears around these parts

why would scum kill him night 2?

Why did scum kill Transcend night 1? They were the only PR claim

Like I said, I don't think they want any chance of clears going around, especially with claims

every town is a pr

i don't get this either

are you and wiml 5D chessing this

yeah i know that but transcend was the only person to make that info public

i dont really understand the kill either but i guess mafia just desperate to get rid of unchallenged claims