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  1. Day 1#1731

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread igno still self voting lol glgl

    igno still self voting lol

    glgl
  2. Day 1#1722

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread ignoramus I seriously hope you don't end up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1714)
    The Longest Mafia Game Redux Day 1 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    6 ignoramus Ampharos (28), sheepsaysmeep (47), Arapocalypse (155), ignoramus (43), Garden Gnome (95), Marshal (87)
    4 Marshal Michelle (29), Frog (267), GeneralHankerchief (212), Shad (119)
    1 WerewolfHunter DkKoba (186)
    1 Sleep Wesmaster160 (113)
    1 sheepsaysmeep Visorslash (113)
    1 Ampharos Trustworthy Liberal (64)
    1 Arapocalypse WerewolfHunter (41)
    2 Not voting lendunistus (32), Cuthalion (24)

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    Day 1 ends at 10:00 PM EST on Thursday, December 2nd, 2021. There are 1638500460000 remaining.
    @ignoramus

    I seriously hope you don't end up yeeting yourself
  3. Day 1#1696

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I think this is best VOTE BETWEEN MARSHAL ...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1683)
    I'm still laser focused on the original two lol

    if it ends up being outside of them then $%#! me I guess
    I think this is best

    VOTE BETWEEN

    MARSHAL

    VS

    IGNORMAUS

    PLEASE
  4. Day 1#1688

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Secret Read Revealed Michelle is LOCK TOWN

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1681)
    The Longest Mafia Game Redux Day 1 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    5 Sleep Wesmaster160 (111), Arapocalypse (152), Garden Gnome (92), ignoramus (40), Trustworthy Liberal (62)
    3 ignoramus GeneralHankerchief (209), Ampharos (28), sheepsaysmeep (45)
    2 Ampharos Marshal (85), Shad (113)
    2 Marshal Michelle (29), Frog (265)
    1 WerewolfHunter DkKoba (186)
    1 Shad WerewolfHunter (40)
    1 sheepsaysmeep Visorslash (111)
    2 Not voting lendunistus (32), Cuthalion (24)

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    Day 1 ends at 10:00 PM EST on Thursday, December 2nd, 2021. There are 1638500460000 remaining.
    Secret Read Revealed

    Michelle is LOCK TOWN
  5. Day 1#1679

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread lmfao I'm going to try to real vote from here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#1674)
    Idk if the memer in me will let me move my vote.
    lmfao

    I'm going to try to real vote from here on out

    ##Vote Marshal

    so between marshal and Amy at the moment for me
  6. Day 1#1672

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread sheepsaysmeep THE POP IN THO

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1667)
    sheepsaysmeep
    ##Vote sheepsaysmeep

    THE POP IN THO
  7. Day 1#1669

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread For real, are we doing AMpharos? Marshal?

    For real, are we doing AMpharos? Marshal?
  8. Day 1#1654

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread REST IN RIP MEME CURRENCY Marshal

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#1648)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1623)
    @Arapocalypse we need you to join us to raise the value of meme currency
    You're the one not memeing enough!!!!!!!!

    REST IN RIP MEME CURRENCY

    ##Vote Marshal
  9. Day 1#1631

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread lmfao the years wait was worth it

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#1629)
    ##Vote ignoramus
    Letsa go!
    lmfao

    the years wait was worth it
  10. Day 1#1623

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Arapocalypse we need you to join us to raise the...

    @Arapocalypse we need you to join us to raise the value of meme currency
  11. Day 1#1617

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Ampharos ofc

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1611)
    cfd AMY

    ofc
    ##Vote Ampharos

    ofc
  12. Day 1#1613

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread After you pointed out Ara to me, I looked at my...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1607)
    okay so, not to be a spoilsport but i dont think we should kill ara (yet anyway)
    After you pointed out Ara to me, I looked at my list and realized Ara is probably a wolf tbh

    I joined for the meme but forgot Ara has wolf equity, but like, yeah I dont feel good killing her today tbh
  13. Day 1#1606

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread CFDs are now the meme currency of this EOD

    Quote Originally Posted by sheepsaysmeep (#1603)
    I genuinely considered not showing up lol can someone give me, like, what I should read asap
    CFDs are now the meme currency of this EOD
  14. Day 1#1596

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread https://i.giphy.com/media/ch4OTkSncCVsA/giphy.webp

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1591)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1588)
    I think I know what I need to do

    I just need to spend the last 14 minutes working up the courage to do it
    LEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
  15. Day 1#1581

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Shad (#77)
    I didn't really think of it as a completely normal game in slow motion, but I'm down to start caring after we wagon Ara in October.
    lol
  16. Day 1#1576

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread :cthuwu::cthuwu::cthuwu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#1575)
    I’m honored to join my wagon in this monumental occasion
  17. Day 1#1572

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Arapocalypse :polidab::polidab::polidab:...

  18. Day 1#1565

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Did you not see the evidence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Gnome (#1561)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#1555)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#1552)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1550)
    ##Vote Arapocalypse

    FOR THE MEMES!
    You know I cant resist a good meme. Thanks for pinging me in wolf chat btw.
    ##Vote Arapocalypse

    Whoops forgot something.
    why the cfd on ara?????!
    Did you not see the evidence?
  19. Day 1#1559

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I'm actually cracking up :lmfao:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1556)
    The Longest Mafia Game Redux Day 1 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    5 ignoramus GeneralHankerchief (197), Ampharos (28), Garden Gnome (78), Arapocalypse (132), Marshal (80)
    4 Arapocalypse Visorslash (93), Frog (250), Shad (105), Wesmaster160 (101)
    2 WerewolfHunter ignoramus (34), DkKoba (186)
    1 Marshal Michelle (29)
    1 DkKoba Trustworthy Liberal (58)
    1 Shad WerewolfHunter (40)
    1 lendunistus sheepsaysmeep (37)
    2 Not voting lendunistus (32), Cuthalion (24)

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    Day 1 ends at 10:00 PM EST on Thursday, December 2nd, 2021. There are 1638500460000 remaining.
    I'm actually cracking up
  20. Day 1#1553

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I present evidence

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse Probably
    Hello,

    I am Mafia.

    I will commit crimes and stuff.

    Oh no, is this the game thread?
    I present evidence
  21. Day 1#1550

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Arapocalypse FOR THE MEMES!

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1548)
    ##Vote Arapocalypse

    cfd gang
    ##Vote Arapocalypse

    FOR THE MEMES!
  22. Day 1#1549

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread ok but play werewolf then

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#1547)
    I’m not playing mafia for a year and a half after this game anyways besides maybe fol annual mash so if I die I consider it part of destiny
    ok but play werewolf then
  23. Day 1#1544

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I'm fine with this tbh I don't remember a...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1540)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1538)
    Visor what should I do
    trust in your heart

    cfd panther
    I'm fine with this tbh

    I don't remember a single villagery post from Panther
  24. Day 1#1539

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Ok, please be cautious about what you post ...

    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1532)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1526)
    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1522)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1520)
    I knew you would read them T

    It just fuels my fear that you put igno up to save WWH

    then miskill me i honestly don't care
    Why you play like this?
    I'm half asleep. I don't want to replace out and I'm used to being miskilled everytime. I also hate the speculation I always get every time I played. I do sometimes regret deciding to play such a long game.
    Ok, please be cautious about what you post

    Please

    This is not kosher
  25. Day 1#1530

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Invest in i before stonks go up

    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Gnome (#1523)
    #54
    Invest in i before stonks go up
  26. Day 1#1526

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Why you play like this? :(

    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1522)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1520)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1516)
    I'm gonna make the read

    this is too pure to be a wolf

    there, I said it
    I knew you would read them T

    It just fuels my fear that you put igno up to save WWH

    then miskill me i honestly don't care
    Why you play like this?
  27. Day 1#1524

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Shower read WWH is dirty from doing werewolf...

    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1521)
    for the record i also had. no idea when this day ended at all will be back after i shower
    Shower read

    WWH is dirty from doing werewolf stuff, therefore wolf
  28. Day 1#1520

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I knew you would read them T :( It just fuels...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1516)
    I'm gonna make the read

    this is too pure to be a wolf

    there, I said it
    I knew you would read them T

    It just fuels my fear that you put igno up to save WWH

  29. Day 1#1515

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Essentially you aren't tho That's like voting...

    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1512)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1511)
    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1509)
    I'm not voting into the two people in the lead as I feel about equal with both of them and I don't want a deciding vote especially when vote seems neutral.

    I'd rather vote elsewhere
    If you are Town, you have power in your vote

    Mafia will vote to kill town and use coordination to their advntage to keep themselves alive

    Bro, it's not just your power, it's a GREAT power

    With great power comes responsibility

    So... please, if you'r town, vote

    If you're not town, don't vote
    I am voting
    Essentially you aren't tho

    That's like voting for Batman write-in vote for president
  30. Day 1#1511

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread If you are Town, you have power in your vote ...

    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1509)
    I'm not voting into the two people in the lead as I feel about equal with both of them and I don't want a deciding vote especially when vote seems neutral.

    I'd rather vote elsewhere
    If you are Town, you have power in your vote

    Mafia will vote to kill town and use coordination to their advntage to keep themselves alive

    Bro, it's not just your power, it's a GREAT power

    With great power comes responsibility

    So... please, if you'r town, vote

    If you're not town, don't vote
  31. Day 1#1508

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

    by Frog
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    Game Thread You're no longer a wagon Right now it's...

    Quote Originally Posted by WerewolfHunter (#1507)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1504)
    One of my concerns about Igno wagon was initially that it was a way to potentially save WerewolfHunter

    But I don't think that necessarily makes Igno town?

    Also that doesn't necessarily make WWH Mafia?

    I think Marshal is probably still Mafia tbh
    Feel free to miskill me. I'm honestly fine with it it's better than being the final miskill
    You're no longer a wagon

    Right now it's between Igno, who isn't here

    And MArshal, who is here, kind of, but not really, popping in and out making not great posts tbh

    I don't know which is better but I'm voting Marshal, I think it's a hit

    Do whatever you want broseidon
  32. Day 1#1504

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread One of my concerns about Igno wagon was initially...

    One of my concerns about Igno wagon was initially that it was a way to potentially save WerewolfHunter

    But I don't think that necessarily makes Igno town?

    Also that doesn't necessarily make WWH Mafia?

    I think Marshal is probably still Mafia tbh
  33. Day 1#1494

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Oh I did stuff for Igno, cool past me

    Oh I did stuff for Igno, cool past me

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1087)
    I went back and looked at 552 and 553

    Seems like my main concerns were:
    1. Igno's strength of reads, despite lack of progression, felt TMI or agenda-y
    2. Igno's lack of solving fire. Has taken a total of zero iniative to ask players questions in order to further develop his own reads / solves.
    3. There was a SHROOP in 547 by Cuth.

    I find myself agreeing with GHs post, it's a very strong convincing argument tbh. There is a way igno is just playing with very strong confirmation bias despite barely playing, but that kind of play would be more detrimental than not anyway.

    @ignoramus
    I'd like you to please develop your reads on WerewolfHunter, Cuthalion, and Lemdunistus.
    1. Explain your reads for each.
    2. Explain the strength in your reads for each.
    3. Ask them questions that would help you solve them.

    Currently if Igno is Mafia, Shad is Town.

    I dont know what Igno's reluctance to move off WWH means.
    Does that mean lendunistus was a hit?
    Does that mean Cuthalion is a hit?
    Does that mean WWH is town, or getting busses for cred?
    Does that mean igno just plays with strong confirmation bias as Town?

    Checking on igno history tbh
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1088)
    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...1#post_4176157

    Town Game Readlist

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#630)
    [FONT="]Awesome 5000: 147 sounds like scum who's glad to not have to pretend to catch up too much. All their other posts are NAI. I find 397 weird though, since it feels like voting because it's safe to vote on that wagon. Null-scum.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]In Mushroom Fiesta Mafia, where they were scum:[/FONT]
    [FONT="]https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...archid=7360770 (might help you @zwerdjib)[/FONT]
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    [/FONT]

    [FONT="]Bee Boy: 68, as noticed by someone else, feels townie. Then 72 comes along and the townie-ness has kind of flown out the window. 94 feels like a joke vote, but if it isn't, then maybe it's because of the fact that I somehow got it right. 334: "I should probably build some scum leans though". Either scum having a hard time to form reads, or naive town that thinks everyone is town until they see something too scummy (quite similar to me, if they're town). 390 possible pocket attempt...? Light town.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Creature: they were town in Mafia, Masons, and the Plague:[/FONT]
    [FONT="]https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...archid=7361044[/FONT]
    [FONT="]Seems like they're in their town meta, but I'm not sure as of yet. If they are, then they're going to become very similar to the way they played (in the linked game) later on. Light town.[/FONT]
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    [/FONT]

    [FONT="]Doop: others have said before that Doop hasn't contributed much but made it seem like they contributed a lot. Upon reading their ISO, that observation is true. Possible scum trying to not be too influential. Could also be like Creature, but I don't think so. Also "fair enough" scum tell on 264. Closer to scum than null-scum.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Flowey: Null.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]
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    [FONT="]Rabbit: 30 seems like a strategy to never vote for their scum buddy. I don't like it. Can you tell me why you voted Kary in 593? Also 573: "If I was a wolf". Sounds like something a wolf would say. The paranoia that they had in 543 feels townie though. Null-town.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Let me answer 543: nobody can coach me to become flip-floppy because I'm pretty sure that others will see through my attempt.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]As for my vote on 32, I was kind of in a quiet tunnel thing. I was really thinking you were scum, but I wasn't being too noisy about it and clogging up the thread.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]GCK: you know that feeling where you don't want a certain player to die because you like them? I feel that way for this guy because of their cat gifs. But otherwise, they didn't really do anything townie or scummy. Null.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]ignoramus: Top Town.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]
    [/FONT]

    [FONT="]Kary: the way they immediately started solving upon entering the thread gives them town points. Also I think they're one of the people that I can't read at all, so I'm going to base it off my gut and say they're town. Probably even one of the town leaders. But if they don't die in the next one to two days I'm going to be really suspicious of them. Could be scum just fooling us and playing with the endgame (F3/ELO/MELO) in mind. One of my Top Towns currently.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Oats: nothing really pinged me either way, except for the "I'd like to vote for Awesome now" in 202. I'm really sorry that I can't really explain more about them. Null-town.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Quick: thanks for the song link @Quick! Never thought I'd listen to songs like that and like them. Anyway, back to the read. I've compared the way they played in Independence Day Mafia:[/FONT]
    [FONT="]https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...archid=7361541[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]to the way they're playing now. I don't know why, but I feel that there's a big difference. Maybe because they haven't posted too much in the thread? Null-scum.[/FONT]
    [FONT="]
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    [FONT="]Vibrava: their first post seemed fine, then they voted Creature, who appears to be a null read. 187 doesn't sit well with me, but I don't know why. Also defending their early wall post did not sit well with me either. Is 243 AtE? I think so. But their posts later on have become more townie. Then 259 comes around and makes them look scummy again. Feels like they know that zwerd is town. 261 feels weird. All of their other posts are NAI from then on. Null.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]VigGOAT: the audacity this man has. Getting drunk, in the middle of a (mafia) game??? Wow.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Anyway, as I said before, I checked Anniversary 2020. They were town there, and they seemed to play the same way as they are doing now. If confidence is a scum tell, then this man is confirmed scum. But I don't think so. I'd be willing to bet that they'll be a town leader just like Kary. If they don't die in the next one to two days I'm going to be worried. Also one of my Top Towns currently.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Hunter: their first few posts give me "scum-trying-to-explain-why-they-were-gone-so-long" vibes (116, 352, 355, 358). 360: scum can also ask questions and seem like they're solving. Plus scum points, since it feels like they're struggling to find a reason to town read someone without showing that they have TMI. Their posts afterwards feel like fluff. 615 feels like they don't know how to read Swag as scummy. If Hunter flips red, then I'd say Swag is cleared (spew cleared? I don't know man). Closest to scum.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]Swag: the way they seem to not care when others scum read them seems townie to me. I'm so sorry, but I'm kind of relying on how Kary flips (if they ever flip, that is). If Kary flips red, then I think Swag would be green, because tunneling is a thing. Not very sure what I 'd think if Kary flipped green though.[/FONT]
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    [FONT="]zwerdjib: entrance of the thread was not very good. Feels kinda placeholder-y. 123 was nasty. Just because it's illegible (in a different language) doesn't mean it's scum motivated. 125 feels townie though. 297 sounds like AtE. I have to be honest: I can't read them as anything else other than Light town.[/FONT]
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    265: "because hes the only one doing it like this lol. this is a silly q tbh" 看!我也在做!


    https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...1#post_4371501

    Mafia Game Read List

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#717)
    Alexa: top town. Probably don't even need to reread.


    Apogee: light town. His catch up was townie, but his conversations with Alexa rubbed me the wrong way. P#606 too.


    Barley: P#668 shows signs of being willing to sheep others' ideas, which would normally raise some red flags if he weren't new, but given that he is new, I feel like it's >rand town, because of his trust. Very, very light town.


    c4e5g3d5: town. Their solving I can see coming from a townie standpoint. The only thing that makes me go ??? is p#465 and p#495. @c4e5g3d5 what made you not want to eliminate Frog anymore, aside from Spooky being your biggest scum read?


    Cider head: light town. Wes off to a good start; solving very often, but it's gone down quite a bit since then.


    Fox falls: even just reading her first few posts made me go "yep, she's town". Her saying she scum read Frog, Cider, and Man (now Apogee) without explaining feels too un-mafia-like to be mafia. That's almost completely impossible to do as scum, unless she's a really good actor/actress. Probably gonna reconsider a few days from now, but today? Nope.


    Frog: scum. He pretty much focused on the whole "Fox having him and two others as her scum reads and her not explaining them" bit. Wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the only one who's scum in there. @fwogcarf I still don't understand p#472. I haven't been born with a brain. Gonna need you to be more obvious.


    Hacker: essentially null. Only thing that's actually readable is p#215, which is light town enough for me to have an inkling of his alignment, but nothing more.


    Hydreigon: feels like his regular self (and when I say regular, I mean weird). His posts seem to be in like with all the games I've seen him participate in, so light town.


    Ignoramus: that's me!



    Let me talk: the amount of "I don't care" vibes I get from him makes me feel like he's just town. I don't understand how he's "thread-spewed town" though.


    Object: was gonna be light town, but then! P#413 stuck, and lots of town credit went out the window. Town credit started to go up little by little, until p#330's "we just need to pick who we want to mis-yeet" which rang alarms. Lots of them. P#658 is just the cherry on the top. Scum.


    Phoenix: very light town, almost null. The only thing stopping me from calling her null is the fact that she's shown solving, even if it was just a little bit. @Phoenix13 care to give your reads now?


    Spooky: hedge 100. If I got my facts right, she only started to scum read Alexa when Alexa voted Spooky. Could either just be a special OMGUS, or just plain old scum. Her arguments about the game-link sharing feels like something suicidal for mafia to do, tbh. Bringing too much attention to herself is mafia's worst nightmare. Light town, but might go down into scum territory sooner or later.


    Race: same category as WerewolfHunter, tbh. @Race Bannon: got reads?


    WerewolfHunter: there's a thin line between light town and null, and she's barely hanging. @WerewolfHunter come back


    WaywardSon: null.


    Anaxagore: null. Reminds me of the game where we were lovers (him serial killer, me town JOAT) and he was aggressive there too. Town read scum. If I'm to reevaluate, I need more.


    Alice Lidell: null.

    Class took longer than expected, and I still got homework to do, so I'll be checking in every now and then. If you want me to respond to anything, please @ me. Thank you.


    Igno cannot be read on whether or not they are being proactive

    Igno is at least aware that sounding floppy floppy / uncertain can be towny

    Igno seems to make the 'doesn't care, probably town' read more as Mafia
  34. Day 1#1484

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    Game Thread I found a good post

    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#54)
    i
    I found a good post
  35. Day 1#1482

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Marshal is assuredly here and has stated they...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1480)
    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1478)
    ##Vote Marshal
    well see I was initially planning on just outright unvoting and making it 4-4 for a bit, but now I can't do that

    :stare:
    Marshal is assuredly here and has stated they will self pres
  36. Day 1#1479

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    Game Thread Also, Igno is like, not super villagery or...

    Also, Igno is like, not super villagery or anything

    Although if they were Mafia I would kind of expect them to be here for this or something?

    Going to quick ISO both Igno and Marshal quick again
  37. Day 1#1476

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread For me it's much more of a feeling I think Wes...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1475)
    Frog/Shad:

    Can the two of you convince me, based solely on the content of their posts and not mentioning wagon composition, generalities related to volume, associatives, etc, why I should switch my vote to Marshal?

    The alcohol is telling me to do it but that's not enough on its own.
    For me it's much more of a feeling

    I think Wes was very kind when he said I was probably right for the wrong reasons
  38. Day 1#1474

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread People voting off wagons right now: ignoramus ...

    People voting off wagons right now:
    @ignoramus
    @DkKoba - ok understandable lol
    @Trustworthy Liberal
    @WerewolfHunter
    @sheepsaysmeep
    @Marshal
    @lendunistus
    @Cuthalion

  39. Day 1#1471

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    Game Thread Well, whatever happens in the next couple of...

    Well, whatever happens in the next couple of months, it's been a pleasure. I hope 2022 can be less pandemic and more hype. Also, I propose a special unspoiled discord dead chat for exotic betting and shenanigans
  40. Day 1#1468

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I don't see that If we assume Igno = Mafia,...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1455)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#547)
    Reads-list #1 (July 7, 2021; UTC+8)
    Okay I will admit I haven’t been here in so long I think I may have forgotten how to play

    Amy: has Amy played any other longest mafia games before? Because if no, I feel like her coming back after about a month when most people would probably be screwing about is kinda townie

    (to anyone who's played with her a lot before: does she make spurts of effort then dip as town more often or as mafia more often?) p#118’s vibes are pretty good imo, didn’t think/expect Amy to type like this (I thought she’d be more calm? or less rambly) but I think her rambling shows she's actively Thinking About Stuff while typing so I’d say that makes her pretty townie

    P#127 feels different from p#118 so either there’s some w/w going on (I personally don’t think so at the time of writing this but I still need to read more, especially for GH) or Amy wasn’t really Thinking About Stuff while writing this
    Probably means she’s more confident on this set of reads or something

    Her spurt (is that what you call it? English is pain) of posts from p#118-p#129 feels pretty good, I think
    P#155 she didn’t follow up to that but I guess it could be ignored

    Probably projecting here but I think p#503 is townie, reason being forgetting her reason for voting Koba and her saying their posting since her last post was townie feels townie to me
    I tend to forget more often as town because as mafia I got people to rely on if I forget anything
    Her turnaround (is that the correct term?) in p#505 also feels townie like
    It feels natural to me

    There’s another spurt of activity that doesn’t feel as townie as before but still pretty okay

    I’d say she’s town


    GH: all of his posts feel okay (I’ve played with him once as w/w and tbh? I can’t tell the difference someone please help me)

    P#135 feels a teeny bit unaligned
    There’s quite a lot of hedge there that makes me think there’s a chance they’re w/w and the "sorry Amy” is kinda :sus: but given that Amy wasn’t in danger whatsoever there’s also a chance GH is just kinda unsure about this

    Okay I reread it again a few times and this makes me think that if GH flips red, Amy’s most likely next

    P#195 might be veiled TMI for pocketing purposes but no flips yet so idk

    I have no idea about this dude



    Cuth: m
    Town on the basis that he just Doesn’t Care

    I feel like drawing and sleeping again ciao
    question for the peanut gallery:

    do we think this drilldown from igno on Amy is w/w?

    because if there's potential there, that's possible affiliation with both of our leading wagons atm

    (I don't think it is, largely because I think a low-impact wolf doesn't expend this much comparative effort on one of their partners, but am not fully confident in this)
    I don't see that

    If we assume Igno = Mafia, most of it feels like TMI Amy Town, with a random association between Amy and You, which from your perspective (!town perspective), should be nonsense

    Tbh, there are only two things that bother me about this post

    1. the format - like, the font choice, and the including the date at the top, yuck

    2. the part where Cuth reads:

    Cuth: m
    Town on the basis ....

    It feels like a shroop of notes possibly made for wolf chat that got modified for posting in main chat or something, I dunno, just a thought

    But if I'm looking at this neutrally, I dunno, it's like someone starting something and then thinking, 'that's enough, going to do other stuff now' - which is like most of the game already
  41. Day 1#1467

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    Game Thread Igno hasn't even shown up lol

    Igno hasn't even shown up lol
  42. Day 1#1452

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    Game Thread Especially if GH and DkKoba are both Town, then...

    Especially if GH and DkKoba are both Town, then 1000% Ara would rise to the top of the suspect list
  43. Day 1#1451

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    Game Thread 1) Trustworthy Liberal 2) Frog 3)...

    1) Trustworthy Liberal
    2) Frog
    3) GeneralHankerchief
    4) Visorslash
    5) ignoramus
    6) Michelle
    7) lendunistus
    8) jumpluff -> DkKoba
    9) Ampharos
    10) Arapocalypse
    11) Marshal
    12) Garden Gnome -> I've been adamant about Gnome being pure, but I want someone to tell me if I'm wrong please
    13) Wesmaster160
    14) Cuthalion
    15) sheepsaysmeep
    16) Shad
    17) WerewolfHunter

    Ok yes, I think Ara could be Wolf here
  44. Day 1#1450

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    Game Thread Before I had Ara as likely being part of the wolf...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1443)
    i think frog gh (sue me), wes, dkkoba (light but eh) are all prob villagers

    frog, do you still wolfread ara
    Before I had Ara as likely being part of the wolf team

    Now I have it less likely

    I think she just made what felt like the exact same reads I made, it just took me longer to get there, so it felt like I was mind melding with her after the fact and I understoof where she was coming from, playing it safe

    I do think she could have been more in the zone, like a warmarshal, but I would need to look at her again to figure out any substantial suss

    I would also need to reeval on my wolf teams, and I don't see her in there at the moment

    If GH is Town, that changes things up a bit

    Even moreso if DkKoba is Town
  45. Day 1#1435

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Believe me, from my perspective I can totally see...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#1433)
    Honestly frog I could level with shad and mich being v

    I just think ignos a lame chop, GH is a powerwolf but nobody wants to touch him so I’m going for his underwhelming partner instead.

    I’d rather vote any and throw that forward as an option than self pres on a slot that to me is mega =rand. I’ll vote Igno if I have to but yea lol
    Believe me, from my perspective I can totally see a world where GH is power wolfing. In fact I think I have been like the only person saying this. There are a couple of problems with this unfortunately. GH has been mega active playing the game, GH has for the most part been pretty villagery, and if GH is Town, he will be self-resolving +90% of the time. So yeeting GH today isn't only unlikely to happen, it's also probably not the best of ideas, even with the existing suspicion.

    And yes, I think you will have to self pres on Igno

    And I think Igno dies today, and I think Igno could just be Town, so, we're going to have another year to figure things out I think
  46. Day 1#1432

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread :ghosthug Even though you rejected my appeals...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1430)
    Ok, so re: igno

    Short version is that yeah, Marshal seems like a hit and I do like her wagon comp better than igno's, but dammit, igno's is *mine* and I feel committed now.

    Long version gets somewhat into tetchy territory so I'll put it in spoilers, it's not super long though:

    Anni 21 and the way it ended pretty much killed most if not all enthusiasm I have for mafia as a whole in general, and MU specifically. I don't know if I'll be gone for good, I've seen too many "retirements" that haven't stuck to say I won't be the same, but at this moment this game is the one thing remaining that's tying me to this community, and while I've enjoyed interacting with friends and acquaintances these past two months, I'm also ready to make a clean break.

    Ignoramus a) dying and b) being a wolf puts me first in line to buy the N1 kill. I've been igno's main and loudest pusher, after all. I'm really looking forward to being the N1 kill, for reasons mentioned just above. So while if I take a step back and look at it with NOTHING BUT ABSOLUTE COLD LOGIC, I say that Marshal *may* be a better chop, I'm still holding onto that hope.

    And here's the thing: I still think igno's a wolf! Sure, there's the uncertainty, but there's the uncertainty around Marshal as well! They're roughly equivalent in my mind, and ahead of everyone else currently, both viable and unviable. So selfishness is my tiebreaker.



    Even though you rejected my appeals a couple of times, I still always maintained a great deal of respect and admiration for what you've done. If you're ready to move on, I hope you will be happy with whatever it is you decide to do.
  47. Day 1#1429

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread If you're town, I don't think a single Mafia is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#1427)
    Yeah that’s about all I have I prob die, GH is doing that thing where he slanders me itt but doesn’t actually vote me so my wagon doesn’t get too large and sketch people out only to vote me later on in the day when that doesn’t matter
    If you're town, I don't think a single Mafia is voting you right now

    So the only people who would be joining your wagon would be like, igno out of self pres, that's IF they even show up, which, I think they're town and have completely forgotten about the game tbh
  48. Day 1#1424

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Thanks at least for looking at it from my...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1422)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1418)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1416)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1415)
    awesome

    Since you requested Wes to come into the thread and drop thoughts on Marshal, I think you largely vibed with what Wes had to throw down, but can you place them in your solid town list today?
    Yes

    I have also had him as a villager from early on

    Shad is the one person in the entire game who, at this moment, eod1, the second of December Anno Domini 2021, I would be gobsmacked if he was a wolf

    Wes isn't quite there but he's probably my second overall
    I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure. I'm not trying to do a gotcha, I'm just trying to make this coherent for you, me, an anyone else reading along.

    I read you posted this:

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1215)
    If Shad and Wes are this far out in Michelle being a villager then I'm cool with upgrading her to my "save" tier.

    Which is then like, a defacto, ok, your two pretty high town reads are saying Michelle is Town, you can vibe with it.

    Finally I'd like to bring you to me. I think we have a vibe of disconnect going on, where I'm suspicious of you, and I think you're just more annoyed by me than you are suspicious of me, which, understandable, I'm trying to figure the game out.

    So if I'm wrong on you, and you can move past you're annoyance of me and see me as obv Town, I'll stop here. Can you do this for just one moment please?

    Now take a look at the current vote count wagons.

    Keep in mind this world.

    This is more or less where I'm living right now.

    So take a look at the people joining you on igno.

    Can you understand why I'm skeptical of you? And why I think the Marshal wagon is both pure and likely a hit?
    took all of three seconds after I called up the vc to see what you mean lol

    the igno wagon isn't *bad* from my POV but the Marshal one is definitely better

    (bolded is fully correct btw)

    anyway I'll talk about my own thoughts in a new post that deserves proper formatting and everything, please stand by
    Thanks at least for looking at it from my perspective
  49. Day 1#1423

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread Agreed it's not good vibes. This is the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#1420)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesmaster160 (#1419)
    Quote Originally Posted by ignoramus (#1290)
    Good morning! Can we hurry I want to flip already
    Also to respond to Ara's ping that got lost somewhere here: I don't need to claim tbhtbh
    Oh yeah, this post super skeeves me out btw. I remembered I wanted to comment on this.
    Reads a bit like a wolf getting bussed, but only really see that as Ampharos rn, though I guess could feasibly be Ara or GG as well.
    Agreed it's not good vibes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal (#1322)
    GH Voice

    I just wanted to say… I know it’s been a long day, and we may be confbiasing ourself but these wagons just.. wipes tear from eyes feel right.
    This is the post I keep coming back to on Marshal, it feels like too theatrical

    I'm not saying Igno's post isn't weird feeling, I'm saying Marshal also has similar weird feeling posts
  50. Day 1#1418

    Thread: The Longest Mafia Game Redux

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    Game Thread I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure. I'm...

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1416)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1415)
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1414)
    Quote Originally Posted by Frog (#1412)
    Ok, I think Shad's posts 1403, 1404 demonstrate villagery imagination and paranoia that is hard to fake as wolf imo

    I don't think there is agenda there? It's just further musings on someone they are already voting

    GH, you agree here?
    I've had him as my top villager ever since I came back to the thread in October
    awesome

    Since you requested Wes to come into the thread and drop thoughts on Marshal, I think you largely vibed with what Wes had to throw down, but can you place them in your solid town list today?
    Yes

    I have also had him as a villager from early on

    Shad is the one person in the entire game who, at this moment, eod1, the second of December Anno Domini 2021, I would be gobsmacked if he was a wolf

    Wes isn't quite there but he's probably my second overall
    I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure. I'm not trying to do a gotcha, I'm just trying to make this coherent for you, me, an anyone else reading along.

    I read you posted this:

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief (#1215)
    If Shad and Wes are this far out in Michelle being a villager then I'm cool with upgrading her to my "save" tier.

    Which is then like, a defacto, ok, your two pretty high town reads are saying Michelle is Town, you can vibe with it.

    Finally I'd like to bring you to me. I think we have a vibe of disconnect going on, where I'm suspicious of you, and I think you're just more annoyed by me than you are suspicious of me, which, understandable, I'm trying to figure the game out.

    So if I'm wrong on you, and you can move past you're annoyance of me and see me as obv Town, I'll stop here. Can you do this for just one moment please?

    Now take a look at the current vote count wagons.

    Keep in mind this world.

    This is more or less where I'm living right now.

    So take a look at the people joining you on igno.

    Can you understand why I'm skeptical of you? And why I think the Marshal wagon is both pure and likely a hit?
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