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    if you had to convince someone you were Lawful...

    if you had to convince someone you were Lawful Good but you were under a magic curse that only allowed you to say true things what would you say
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    What's something that you value roughly as much...

    What's something that you value roughly as much as you value your left pinkie finger?
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    kat katze?

    kat katze?
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    what's something that gets to you that you wish...

    what's something that gets to you that you wish wouldn't?
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    what's the best advice you have ever been given?

    what's the best advice you have ever been given?
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    what's something you've wanted to do for a long...

    what's something you've wanted to do for a long time, but never have had the chance to?
  7. Postgame#3251

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    Completed Arete stats

    ##Vote Arete

    stats
  8. Postgame#3208

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    Completed CRich was town though

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#3144)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arete (#459)
    I saw a couple CRich posts and they didn't have the most painfully awkward tone imaginable just normal CRich mildly awkward tone so the dude is probably a villager
    in a hard wolfsiding game
    CRich was town though
  9. Day 4#2860

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    Completed literally outing shot

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#2802)
    arete
    literally outing shot
  10. Day 4#2842

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    Completed insomnia I think their EoD was bad

    insomnia

    I think their EoD was bad
  11. Day 3#2569

    Thread: Breaking Site Turbo

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    Completed Arctic's a villager don't shoot him

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#2536)
    Record Breaking Turbo!!!!!! Game thread Day 3 Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Garden Gnome (#2536)

    Arctic

    The window closes at 5:16 AM EDT on Tuesday, October 17th, 2023. There are 1697534227000 remaining.
    Arctic's a villager

    don't shoot him
  12. Day 3#2542

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    Completed why the $%#! is no one voting Champ he's...

    why the $%#! is no one voting Champ he's literally outed
  13. Day 3#2243

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    Completed Champ I got a ping that I think means 'shoot...

    Champ

    I got a ping that I think means 'shoot again, it'll work this time'
  14. Day 3#1974

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    Completed Champ

  15. Day 3#1958

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    Completed Champ is outed I have a night action and...

    Champ is outed

    I have a night action and literally can't even access the dropdown so he shouldn't have been able to either
  16. Day 2#1785

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    Completed several pages back (maybe???) Champ shot Lissa...

    several pages back (maybe???) Champ shot Lissa after vanity. died which is probably also outing

    was going to say this but then the site went down
  17. Day 2#1554

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    Completed Sett

    ##Vote Sett
  18. Day 2#1484

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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Sett (#1401)
    im masons with vanity

    kill ladd
  19. Day 2#1457

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    Completed SETT IS OUTED

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#1391)
    Record Breaking Turbo!!!!!! Game thread Day 2 Event

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantichora (#1391)
    vanity.
    Hit! vanity. was killed. They were: Mafia Tracker | Odd Cycle.
    Role PM for Record Breaking Turbo!!!!!! Game thread

    You are Mafia Tracker | Odd Cycle. You win when you overpower the Town and are the only evil faction remaining.

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Tracker

    As Mafia Tracker, you have access to the Tracking Night Action. Tracking another player informs you who that player used a Night Action on that night, if any. You will not learn what type of Night Action your target has. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If you do not submit an action, you will forego your action on that night.

    Odd Night

    The Odd Night modifier limits you to only submit Night actions on Odd numbered Nights.


    View ITA History

    The window closes at 10:14 PM EST on Monday, January 18th, 2038. There are 2147483707000 remaining.
    SETT IS OUTED
  20. Day 2#1407

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    Completed (She)

    Quote Originally Posted by ladd (#1358)
    kill vanity. he is a wolf

    then i think spf probw olf too
    (She)
  21. Day 2#1342

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    Completed View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Manasi (#1314)
    chat moving so fast nobody will see that i'm a wolf
  22. 1#1248

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    Completed mfw I see Appel flip alignment Oracle and I'm...

    mfw I see Appel flip alignment Oracle and I'm like 'oh good, a free peek'
  23. 1#1118

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    Completed my MU might be broken but I didn't see any night...

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#1045)
    er how am i alive i lead a wagon on a wolf vig?
    my MU might be broken but I didn't see any night deaths
  24. Night 1#1075

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    Completed an_gorta_pratai all my homies hate trees...

    an_gorta_pratai

    all my homies hate trees
  25. Day 1#640

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    Completed things are happening at work see you d2

    things are happening at work see you d2
  26. Day 1#587

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    Completed people shading sleep voters for being sleep...

    people shading sleep voters for being sleep voters with no specifics >rand W

    easy way to produce content without having to say anything
  27. Day 1#517

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    Completed also this wasn't part of the original read but I...

    also this wasn't part of the original read but I just saw a post that made me think he thinks sleep is an actual player
  28. Day 1#459

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    Completed I saw a couple CRich posts and they didn't have...

    I saw a couple CRich posts and they didn't have the most painfully awkward tone imaginable just normal CRich mildly awkward tone so the dude is probably a villager
  29. Day 1#276

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    Completed congratulations it took 2 minutes to break the...

    congratulations it took 2 minutes to break the site
  30. Day 1#138

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    Completed *gamer $%#! you autocorrect

    *gamer

    $%#! you autocorrect
  31. Day 1#126

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    Completed Orange gamer not w w because orange didn't...

    Orange gamer not w w because orange didn't realize katze was Gamay
  32. Day 1#69

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    Completed aret aret gamer

    aret aret

    ##Vote gamer
  33. Postgame#86

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    Completed mfw I vote Ladd and immediately see that he...

    mfw I vote Ladd and immediately see that he claimed dayvig
  34. Day 2#60

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    Completed n

    ##Unvote n
  35. Day 2#59

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    Completed ladd

    ##Vote ladd
  36. Day 2#50

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    Completed Ladd (2) sbpcbwe

    Ladd (2)

    sbpcbwe
  37. Day 1#34

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    Completed rabbit v

    rabbit v
  38. Day 1#25

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    Completed this is OMGUS but unironically

    this is OMGUS but unironically
  39. Day 1#18

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    Completed gamer

    ##Vote gamer
  40. Day 1#13

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    Completed iaafr

    ##Unvote iaafr
  41. Day 1#9

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    Completed hops in iaafr

    hops in

    ##Vote iaafr
  42. Day 1#44

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    Completed Visor has zero reads, blast him

    Visor has zero reads, blast him
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    Completed Visorslash

    Quote Originally Posted by Visorslash (#19)
    can you not rand 0/0 btw?
    ##Vote Visorslash
  44. Day 1#14

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    Completed kat katze gamer

    kat katze

    ##Vote gamer
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    Completed kat katze katze

    kat katze

    ##Vote katze
  46. Postgame#9707

    Thread: Poisoner 21'er

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    Completed is that where you misclear c4

    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#9706)
    Solution to all of the above is the patented c4 misclear exercise
    is that where you misclear c4
  47. Postgame#9705

    Thread: Poisoner 21'er

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    Completed also fwiw I'm not sure if I'm accurately...

    also fwiw I'm not sure if I'm accurately representing Ran's position, get her to quote you on what it is not me
  48. Postgame#9704

    Thread: Poisoner 21'er

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    Completed I think it's complicated, and not always true or...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryker (#9691)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arete (#9223)
    Quote Originally Posted by katze (#9209)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arete (#9207)
    maybe Ran was right about how MUers play
    i feel like i should know what you mean but i don't
    Ran is of the opinion that MU's approach to towncores is deeply flawed and basically tends to involve clearing some people who seem solvy early and not really reevaluating even when they say they are, and basically just taking everything as evidence to reinforce what they already believed, and that this makes it easy for people who can look solvy early to pocket everyone

    and I had always thought this was kind of oversimplified and not really how anyone does anything, I've argued with her a lot in spec chat

    but no one is actually considering anything about my slot, they're just taking everything I do as evidence that I'm a wolf, like they're like 'Arete defended Kaif which is bad because they were powerwolfing!!!' and then they're like 'Arete pushing Mewt is bad because they could have been bussing!!!!' or being like 'Arete isn't doing enough to solve the game!!!' even though the past few days I've done more than literally any other living player

    and I can't even think it's wolfy because everyone's doing it and they can't all be wolves


    This in particular is hilarious in hindsight, but is somewhat close to a feeling I had had before I quit mafia. I had stomped on it because I think it's the exception, not the rule, to losing to this behavior, but I'm curious if you think this is actually true.
    I think it's complicated, and not always true or always false

    personally as a villager I lean strongly towards a 'towncore + PoE' approach, I think that Ran (the player I was referencing) believes more strongly than I do that a lot of what MUers towncore people for early is basically NAI/just being solvy. To a certain extent I think her claim is normative -- that people shouldn't be able to be cleared off of it -- whereas mine is that they can be, and that if someone does something clearing-for-them you should clear them for it even if that's really just an insult to their wolfgame.

    I do think that 'not reevaluating towncores' and 'putting people in towncores for bad reasons' can sometimes be problems some people have, and that that can sometimes happen on MU, but I don't think that's an inherent problem of towncores, sort of like how 'sometimes people scumread villagers for bad reasons' isn't an inherent problem with making scumreads. But this doesn't mean that these problems aren't problems, and in particular I think a lot of people are kind of bad at weighing different amounts of evidence that someone is an alignment and assigning them an appropriate amount-of-weight (in both directions, people underweight things and overweight them).

    idk this is probably kind of word salad
  49. Postgame#9678

    Thread: Poisoner 21'er

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    Completed fwiw the reason I bussed Mewtini is that I was...

    fwiw the reason I bussed Mewtini is that I was pretty sure one of us was dying soonish and if it was me Mewtini was going to also have to contend with Ryker/Yolo mechclears which I thought would be unwinnable whereas if it was her it would just be really really hard to not lose rather than probably actually impossible
  50. Postgame#9659

    Thread: Poisoner 21'er

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    Completed that one's on me I was like 'well we're...

    Quote Originally Posted by iaafr (#9654)
    tfw the wolves n2 the wolf wincon
    that one's on me

    I was like 'well we're probably $%#!ed because everyone has all of us in PoE, maybe if we kill rabbit Mewtini can deepwolf off the SHC'

    I think it could have worked if Mewtini had had the ability to put more time into the game but in practice her level-of-time-commitment was 'at some point I started writing posts and telling her to copypaste them into the thread' which somewhat reduced the effectiveness of the strategy
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