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    Completed Upick was also my first game on the site, so I...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#3254)
    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#3252)
    I would have to see your wolf games to compare.
    Upick and Google Translate in my database profile.

    Auto-translate the page for GT Mafia because the gimmick was we all had to post in different languages. It's a little harder to read my tone when I'm speaking in Google Translate French though.

    But overall, the most interesting thing about my scum game is that both games had the exact same timeline of events. I'm in a team of three, one guy gets chopped imidiately, the other guy is really good and both of us get townread, suddenly I get cardiac issues, the really good player slips, they spew me maf right before they get chopped, I get chopped, game ends.
    Upick was also my first game on the site, so I play pretty differently. Hadn't picked up any of my new strategies like ISO-surfing yet. One strategy I've done in every game I've played besides this one is the "most and least suspicious" lists, where it finds all the worst and best things everyone's done to see which side is stronger. They've never failed me and idk why I didn't do them this time.

    tl;dr, one scumgame is sort of outdated and the other's in a language I don't speak, but my playstyle in GT was definitely really similar to where it's at now and help test 2 (well, I managed to do worse this time somehow). If only google translate actually worked.
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    Completed Upick and Google Translate in my database...

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#3252)
    I would have to see your wolf games to compare.
    Upick and Google Translate in my database profile.

    Auto-translate the page for GT Mafia because the gimmick was we all had to post in different languages. It's a little harder to read my tone when I'm speaking in Google Translate French though.

    But overall, the most interesting thing about my scum game is that both games had the exact same timeline of events. I'm in a team of three, one guy gets chopped imidiately, the other guy is really good and both of us get townread, suddenly I get cardiac issues, the really good player slips, they spew me maf right before they get chopped, I get chopped, game ends.
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    Completed Negative utility Town might also be possible, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#3242)
    2) Look for blown cover. Townies giving up and self voting are usually VT. Scummy people giving up and self voting are usually VT or scum. People who want to be put into a tie for the lulz are usually VT. People who self vote as a joke and then abandon the game after making a not believable fake claim are VT or scum far more often. I can say the exception, which was when Duk3star the Town Healer self voted Day One of Mushroom Fiesta, which actually kept me off of his trail for like, a whole night. Because I poisoned him N2 and he cannot self heal, so that was a super slick shot. But usually self voters are VT. Also people who just claim vt under vote pressure or near tied wagons. Just blown cover, blown cover, blown cover over and over again. If cover is progressively that blown, someone needs to at least throw their acting chops into method acting the role of town poisoner so hard that wolves actually go.... "no.... it can't be him.... but if it is, we are so effed. We better do a thing."
    Negative utility Town might also be possible, but VTs are far more common. If the self-vote is done more energetic than hopeless, something like Oracle makes sense I think. Again though, rare role [that should be used more].


    Completely unrelated to this game, but Oracle is actually a very fun role. Play offense solely, less defense, and if you're ever accused or think you're too townread, claim and reveal your target. Now the mafia will avoid trying to vote you out, as doing so will either reveal one of them or clear one of your fellow townies. It is a COOL ROLE, not just a lesser cop-sanity. There is so much more unique strategy to it than a basic investigation role, and should be included in more setups. Rank over.
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    Completed Nope, D1.

    Nope, D1.
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    Completed Eva for stealthiest claim Seriously why did...

    Eva for stealthiest claim

    Seriously why did everyone forget it.
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    Completed Another upick? Sweet, hope I don't have to vanish...

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#3227)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#3225)
    when is help test 4
    February?

    I plan to run Floor is Lava in December and a (bastard) upick 3 in January, so yeah prolly Feb.
    Another upick? Sweet, hope I don't have to vanish from extreme palpitations again.
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    Completed was it?

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#3219)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#3182)
    what the hell, what the frick, what the $%#! just happened

    poisoned...????????????????????????????????????
    wait it was a poison 💀
    was it?
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    Completed Of course. Spread the holy words, so to speak.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#3218)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#3217)
    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#3212)
    help test 3
    Question: What are your thoughts on people turning the name of your test game series into an inside meme.
    i mean its funny and i dont mind

    in fact it practically guarantees that all my help test games will fill which is nice
    Of course. Spread the holy words, so to speak.
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    Completed Question: What are your thoughts on people...

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#3212)
    help test 3
    Question: What are your thoughts on people turning the name of your test game series into an inside meme.
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    Completed So few people actually know what they're doing on...

    So few people actually know what they're doing on my homesite so reading people is incredibly easy.

    I didn't get a single correct scumread this entire game, but I usually do weirdly well as maf. Sucks that I like playing town better. I finally broke out of my "honorary Oracle" town playstyle, so that's cool I guess. I wonder how my scum game would be on my homesite if I'm a decent maf here. Jokes aside, you guys were fun to play with even though my energy vanished on the last day. It's no Google Translate Mafia, but it was still fun.
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    Completed So blown that I hurt my ankle at practice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy (#3184)
    Basically me and the wolves have been teaming up specifically to blow YOUR mind, Rowan.

    Are you not entertained?
    So blown that I hurt my ankle at practice.
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    Completed what the hell, what the frick, what the $%#! just...

    what the hell, what the frick, what the $%#! just happened

    poisoned...????????????????????????????????????
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    Completed they'll majority anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince J (#3130)
    Gimme Hammer
    they'll majority anyway
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    Completed I did that once because my partner told me he was...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason (#3121)
    masons d1 claim = s tier play
    I did that once because my partner told me he was a traitor and I was one of the mafia when neither of us were
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    Completed Kirbo? I thought they scumread annulus

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonfairy (#3114)
    pizza said annulus was town
    if y'all don't want to listen to me, at least listen to pizza

    think it's just turtle atp
    Kirbo? I thought they scumread annulus
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    Completed a

    Quote Originally Posted by lilypetal (#3110)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#3107)
    Quote Originally Posted by lilypetal (#3103)
    rowan seems legit uninformed this eod not knowing who the $%#! the poisoner is
    seriously when did memory claim I missed this I thought it was just eva and th
    memory claimed like 15 mins ago
    a
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    Completed seriously when did memory claim I missed this I...

    Quote Originally Posted by lilypetal (#3103)
    rowan seems legit uninformed this eod not knowing who the $%#! the poisoner is
    seriously when did memory claim I missed this I thought it was just eva and th
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    Completed .

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#3092)
    @fluffy rabbit

    i hope we dont rand wolf together again

    gl to other wolf
    .
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    Completed eva did it on d1 without much reaction and th...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason (#3066)
    we don’t know who the fake claim is
    eva did it on d1 without much reaction and th kinda randomly threw it in today
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    Completed wait memory too now? You're a poisoner, he's a...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason (#3064)
    memory and th claimed poisoner
    wait memory too now?

    You're a poisoner, he's a poisoner, they're a poisoner, I'M a poisoner?!
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    Completed TripleHaven if t then eva

    ##Vote TripleHaven

    if t then eva
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    Completed why did no one notice this FOS: TripleHaven

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#1237)
    i am the 1 Town Poisoner (2-Shot, D2+).
    do not respond to this post or you are a wolf.
    i am saying this to throw wolves off.
    now i am in the mind of wolves. now i am an option.
    theyre going to keep thinking back to this post.
    but in fact... it's all just reverse psychology.
    or is it reverse reverse psychology?
    why did no one notice this

    FOS: TripleHaven
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    Completed evakyoo I'll find the d1 post asap

    ##Unvote evakyoo

    I'll find the d1 post asap
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    Completed the posts, I think I missed the "I never did...

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2874)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2869)
    I've gone over the ISO like twice, and have especially TR'd their recent posts. Generic isn't mafia. I don't see the drive behind it. Self-voting and trying to get people to press them might be the single towniest reaction ever. Unless you guys are voting for information, which god I hope you aren't.
    self voting isnt townie but here it is. i think its out of pure frustration

    regardless, i shouldnt be the wagon, as i am a pr
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2910)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2905)
    @evakyoo are you claiming pr or not
    i never did wdum
    no
    the posts, I think I missed the "I never did thing", but it's still weird to me to just say "nah I never did that", did you say "I'm a pr" as a jpoke?
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    Completed phrased that weird, by that I mean claimed an...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2946)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2943)
    tbh im conflicted on whether or not eva is scum

    cause i think the time thye claimed is very convinent for them but theyve also been pretty consistently providing cover the whole game
    claimed pr even though all town prs were already claimed.

    ##Vote evakyoo
    phrased that weird, by that I mean claimed an ambiguous pr not long before every town pr was claimed
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    Completed ????

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2947)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2933)
    im town poisoner

    was gonna bait eva into fakeclaiming. dont think they wouldve done it anyways bc theyre not in direct danger rn but it would've been funny
    oh $%#! oh $%#!
    my fake claim would have worked if the wagons were generic and I 😔 but since you were becoming a wagon I decided to say it wasn't me... AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW
    ????
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    Completed claimed pr even though all town prs were already...

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#2943)
    tbh im conflicted on whether or not eva is scum

    cause i think the time thye claimed is very convinent for them but theyve also been pretty consistently providing cover the whole game
    claimed pr even though all town prs were already claimed.

    ##Vote evakyoo
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    Completed every town role has been claimed. Eva..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twice Shrunk (#1)
    etup

    town
    - 10 VTs
    - 1 Town Poisoner (2-Shot, D2+)
    - 1 Town Jailkeeper (Odd Night, Mason {Group A})
    - 1 Town Voyeur (Even Night, Mason {Group A})

    mafia
    - 1 Mafia Vigilante (Odd Night, Recluse, Neighbor {Group B}, Inventor {Vigilante x1, Roleblocker x1})
    - 1 Mafia Vigilante (Odd Night, Backup, Recluse, Neighbor {Group B}, JOAT {Poisoner x1, Rolecop x1, Tracker x1})
    - 1 Mafia Poisoner (Even Night, Recluse, Neighbor {Group C}, Inventor {Watcher x1, Roleblocker x1})
    - 1 Mafia Poisoner (Even Night, Backup, Recluse, Neighbor {Group C}, JOAT {Redirector x1, Rolecop x1, Tracker x1})
    every town role has been claimed.

    Eva..?
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    Completed p#2452

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2919)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2908)
    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2874)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2869)
    I've gone over the ISO like twice, and have especially TR'd their recent posts. Generic isn't mafia. I don't see the drive behind it. Self-voting and trying to get people to press them might be the single towniest reaction ever. Unless you guys are voting for information, which god I hope you aren't.
    self voting isnt townie but here it is. i think its out of pure frustration

    regardless, i shouldnt be the wagon, as i am a pr
    He said why he wants to get chopped, he's having issues with the players.

    Also wait did you claim pr earlier
    frustration with the others. i hope he stays alive and we can interact ;_; idek what went on
    p#2452
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    Completed Here's just a compilation of every major...

    Here's just a compilation of every major interaction with a little bit of commentary, serving as a tool and readlist at the same time. Feel free to us the postnums. This is as far as I got before I was told to get off my computer and take a shower last night.


    annulus- p#219 is impossible to read without ritalin and the interaction kinda looks forced on rabbit's part? p#228 please give me a read on this I need my meds and this looks like gibberish. p#237 I'm really starting to see the "rabbit was buddying with annulus" thing at this point. Blatant agreeing . More in p#271, p#374.
    evakyoo
    evil-turtle- p#225 buddying. p#235 this looks spewy/telly namedropping and I'm not sure what's going on. p#291 is also possible buddying. Same with p#727 and p#731. p#732 ??????????
    Generic- p#228 again I have a hard time reading this but it seems kinda town spewing for gen. p#229 says gen's good I think, p#726 suddenly gen=bad?
    Lemonfairy
    lilypetal
    Mason- p#230 they already claimed though so a townspewing thing doesn't give us much. p#357 exists.
    Memory
    NANOOKTHECONQUEROR- p#207 is rabbit's first post (why is cursing okay when it's in comic sans?). p#239 hm.
    Prince J- p#253 okay.
    Rowan the Pomegranate- p#322 exists, same with 337, completely void of tone in those. p#371 annoyed rabbit was able to understand that but I wasn't.
    TigerWoodsPGATour2004
    TripleHaven- p#222 reads weird, feel free to interpret it cuz I can't really. p#223 makes it a little more icky though. Whether it's buddying or a teammate thing I can't tell. Gets super into "TH FRENCH ONION SOUUUUP" and other fluff for a bit.


    Tiger, Lemon, Lily, and Eva were the only people without actual interactions at the halfway point. Of the interactions show TH's is probably the worst, but I'll look into them more.
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    Completed Still reading.

    Quote Originally Posted by lilypetal (#2893)
    Still reading.
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    Completed He said why he wants to get chopped, he's having...

    Quote Originally Posted by evakyoo (#2874)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2869)
    I've gone over the ISO like twice, and have especially TR'd their recent posts. Generic isn't mafia. I don't see the drive behind it. Self-voting and trying to get people to press them might be the single towniest reaction ever. Unless you guys are voting for information, which god I hope you aren't.
    self voting isnt townie but here it is. i think its out of pure frustration

    regardless, i shouldnt be the wagon, as i am a pr
    He said why he wants to get chopped, he's having issues with the players.

    Also wait did you claim pr earlier
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    Completed The rabbit interactions I looked into were kinda...

    The rabbit interactions I looked into were kinda useless (everything of note was already said), ISOing Memory and Eva now.
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    Completed I've gone over the ISO like twice, and have...

    I've gone over the ISO like twice, and have especially TR'd their recent posts. Generic isn't mafia. I don't see the drive behind it. Self-voting and trying to get people to press them might be the single towniest reaction ever. Unless you guys are voting for information, which god I hope you aren't.
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    Completed And no, it's not cardiac related. I've just been...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2797)
    I think this game is super fun, but I've been pretty low energy and I'm having trouble keeping up. If I miss this Eod I might consider subbing.
    And no, it's not cardiac related. I've just been forgetting to take my meds a lot and my homework's increased.
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    Completed I think this game is super fun, but I've been...

    I think this game is super fun, but I've been pretty low energy and I'm having trouble keeping up. If I miss this Eod I might consider subbing.
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    Completed um it's not like I have a big worldbuilding...

    um it's not like I have a big worldbuilding assignment for creative writing class
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    Completed I just remember distancing was big in help test...

    Quote Originally Posted by evil-turtle (#2704)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2703)
    Quote Originally Posted by evil-turtle (#2702)
    tbh rabbit’s iso had like,,, not a lot? that’s worth reading into? like it kinda annoys me that most of what i’m getting is fluff and a i generated images ._.
    Yeah, the interactions he does have so impossible to read without the meds I forgot to take, so most of my reads are sorta "here's this postnum, someone decipher it"
    issue is ik next to nothing abt rabbits meta when it comes to, say, distancing or rvs
    all ik is that his play was not towny yesterday
    but like beyond that i can’t tell much and i think it’ll be better to see how other people interact w rabbit than how he interacted w them
    I just remember distancing was big in help test 2, maybe that was just cuz of the flag wolf though idk
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    Completed Yeah, the interactions he does have so impossible...

    Quote Originally Posted by evil-turtle (#2702)
    tbh rabbit’s iso had like,,, not a lot? that’s worth reading into? like it kinda annoys me that most of what i’m getting is fluff and a i generated images ._.
    Yeah, the interactions he does have so impossible to read without the meds I forgot to take, so most of my reads are sorta "here's this postnum, someone decipher it"
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    Completed Also to avoid getting taken to the post, here's...

    Also to avoid getting taken to the post, here's the postnums:

    p#207 voted for nanook
    p#329 unvoted
    p#329 for generic
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    Completed idk how to post that without a spoiler tag

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2699)
    For reference

    idk how to post that without a spoiler tag
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    Completed For reference fluffy rabbit;;

    For reference

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    Completed Gotta switch to a different computer when I get...

    Gotta switch to a different computer when I get to school so I'll post the half-finished list now to save the progress and finish it when I get there.

    Doing this brings fond memories of help test 2.

    Also here's just a compilation of every major interaction with a little bit of commentary, serving as a tool and readlist at the same time. Feel free to us the postnums.


    annulus- p#219 is impossible to read without ritalin and the interaction kinda looks forced on rabbit's part? p#228 please give me a read on this I need my meds and this looks like gibberish. p#237 I'm really starting to see the "rabbit was buddying with annulus" thing at this point. Blatant agreeing . More in p#271.
    evakyoo
    evil-turtle- p#225 buddying. p#235 this looks spewy/telly namedropping and I'm not sure what's going on. p#291 is also possible buddying.
    Generic- p#228 again I have a hard time reading this but it seems kinda town spewing for gen. p#229
    Lemonfairy
    lilypetal
    Mason- p#230 they already claimed though so a townspewing thing doesn't give us much.
    Memory
    NANOOKTHECONQUEROR- p#207 is rabbit's first post (why is cursing okay when it's in comic sans?). p#239 hm.
    Prince J- p#253 okay.
    Rowan the Pomegranate- p#322 yes
    TigerWoodsPGATour2004
    TripleHaven- p#222 reads weird, feel free to interpret it cuz I can't really. p#223 makes it a little more icky though. Whether it's buddying or a teammate thing I can't tell.


    I also am currently only looking at rabbit, I'll look at memory later but I think memory is the highest posters without any interaction with memory halfway through the iso page. Lack of interaction was a tool used in ht2 to an extent so that's one thing I'm going after.
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    Completed currently like halfway through my post and rabbit...

    currently like halfway through my post and rabbit hasn't interacted with memory at all at that point.
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    Completed turtle's my age or a little older I think Also...

    turtle's my age or a little older I think

    Also got two people done on the rabbit-based ISO list thing gonna speed up now
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    Completed remember I'm only 15 I don't know what that word...

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince J (#2551)
    imperative
    remember I'm only 15 I don't know what that word means
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    Completed I post and no one's online, I leave for my...

    I post and no one's online, I leave for my cousin's birthday dinner and the thread explodes.

    Any questions before I go back to the rabbit thing, it's going pretty good I think.
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    Completed help test 3

    help test 3
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    Completed Personally offended. Yet again. What the...

    Quote Originally Posted by annulus (#2456)
    i also think town rowan just doesn't care enough to post this
    Personally offended.

    Quote Originally Posted by annulus (#2456)
    also kind of feel like the real reason rowan ditched eod was due to demoralisation from rabbit not trying to defend himself tbh. actually i remember he admitted to exaggerating irl excuses before as a wolf, though we don't really need to litigate this. and generally he posted a lot less d2 (30) than he did d1 (92), and didn't vote d2
    Yet again. What the hell man, my parents are pretty serious about my screen usage and eod was at 11am. Saw me on a screen, told me to get off and go down stairs. Which is why I left off so abruptly in the middle of stuff.


    Quote Originally Posted by annulus (#2457)
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan the Pomegranate (#2453)
    Generic you aren't an oracle.

    Please stop. No one's going to vote you, you're wasting the town's time. Distracting us. This is the job of an Oracle, and that isn't in the setup so FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE SHUT UP AND GET BACK TO SOLVING.
    what's your read on generic today?
    Town, unless it's some weird parody of how I act in a lot of town games. I find that unlikely because it's so risky though, so yeah, solid town read. I do think he should sub out if he feels that way though.
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    Completed Oh, I missed that, sorry. Maybe sub out then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Generic (#2452)
    I may disclose why I gave up caring in this game thanks to specific players in post game but I don’t want to bring the mood down on people.
    Oh, I missed that, sorry. Maybe sub out then?
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