Type: Posts; User: Arby
yeah, I guess that's on my end on using NAI. Use it in chat based mafia as well, so I suppose its become habit whereas I've never even heard of strawman before.
I did try to Google and I still didn't understand how it applied to this context. Apologies for my terrible reading comprehension.
A "Straw man" argument (also called "setting up a straw man") involves mischaracterizing your opponent's position in order to present a weaker argument than they have actually given, thereby allowing you to defeat it. It usually involves subtle changes to the given facts of the matter, or minor changes to wording that lead to semantic differences in what is said.
Also, "Strawmanning" involves taking a small piece of the case someone has built up that is weaker than their other points and blowing it up. They can then defeat the weaker point and use that as 'proof' that everything that person has said is wrong.
initial beeboy posts are completely NAI. It's just a random meme post and I don't think looking back at game history is really going to matter to check if he's done it before.
I don't think he's trying to pull the same shounen shtick to appear townie either as Derz mentioned. Scum would rather try to look townie by making posts and contributing than just making a meme post and disappearing to emulate a past game where they were town. NAI.
That's all I'm gonna say on the beeboy stuff until he comments further. Onto Litt and Derz now
Read back through the game as far and will make comments here and there, but would want to make an open request here:
Is it really necessary to use buzzwords like 'strawman'. It makes reading a lot more challenging for me especially because I don't play forum mafia that often. I'm sure there are substitutes that could be used that would just as well express the meaning of what you're trying to say. Using buzzwords just leads to people misinterpreting what you're trying to say which helps no-one and is frankly a disingenuous thing to do.
I'm not targeting anyone and this isn't a read, but just a frank request. Please don't say gOoGlE It either. That's just a cheap excuse for not doing something that will make the game clearer for everyone.
Sorry, just was a bit annoyed
will be here in about 2 hours.
have a lovely day
wait why isnt tbz in the game...
we were robbed of a 3 day win :[
@schia admittedly have not read majority of either of their interactions today.
Also 6 min oop
Is this what I’m supposed to do?
Apologise for the inactivity. Work has picked up and I didn’t expect my time to be this taken up. I’ll sub if I anticipate not being able to participate fully
Anyways, I still TR SR and Litt and today's stuff just further cements that. Idk what to make of Ren's stuff but I think I'd rather get on PTSD or Tenz for now.
##Vote Utsuho Reiuji]
am interested in hearing from tenzhii atm bc of the track
also not me checking every page looking forward to this Spiderz case on me and it never appearing
hi frens, been a busy 24 hrs but I intend to read and comment tn.
Also @Schia ik you pinged me re the floood/litt interaction, don’t have the capability of making a full fledged post tonight, but I do think the Litt/Floood dynamic bears some resemblance to us in Lich
This was an elaborate plan to up my post count, definitely not me flopping at commands
Appreciate the insight on the beeboy vote.
Tbh, I would kind of like a PTSD vote. I noticed much of what Amy flagged in her last vote regarding PTSD but assumed he was towned by too many people to gain traction.
With that said,
Beeboy is still better than Misty atp
Is the beeboy vote based on anything other than him talking?
I’m considering getting off Misty because they’ve been much more involved, but genuinely dk what the beeboy vote is based on
Honestly, Litt just seems really out of it rn based on his current posts like he’s being very aggressive for no reason.
Idk if this changes my read on him yet but for now I’d rather vote my sl.
man why is everything PTSD is saying coming across as superficial to me, someone help
I honestly read the post as Amy scumreading me and trying to decide whether Litt's push on floood was indicative of him being my partner. I think the 3 vote wagon comment was just Amy coming up with a reason for why Litt wouldn't start a push to save me at that time given it was still early.
Idk if y'all read it the same way though, I dont think its that deep tbh
##Unvote OM Room
[Pretty Sure Town from what I've read]
Sami - TR as stated several times before, has not changed.
Spiderz - TR - tone read so far but I really liked his posts a few hours ago and him reading on most of the gamethread.
OM - TR - commented on this prior
Litt - TR - commented on this prior
Kaif - I echo others that Kaif just seems town to me lol. His interaction with SR and PTSD where he just stubbornly pushed his reads appeared town to me. I also liked how he was scumreading SR despite noone else sharing the same read, and that independent thinking comes off as town to me.
SR: I just really like how he's involving himself in almost every interaction the game and trying to understand people's motivations. Solid Townread there.
[More Likely Town than not]:
flooood - his interaction with Litt appeared town to me. He had really aggressive replies to Litt's post and I think that came from a town POV who was mad at being scumread for what he considered a bs argument.
Amy - like that she commented on the floood/litt and sr/kaif stuff. Dislike that all her posts do feel surface level like others have said
PTSD - I did not like the interaction with Kaif at all. It just seemed like fake exasperation to me when he was asking Kaif why he sr SR. I didn't like that the interaction amounted to PTSD calling him town!kaif then as well. If you know that town!kaif plays like this, why try and be so aggressive about it. PTSD and I have the same town reads, and they seemed to come from a town PoV which is why I don't scumread him yet.
Misty - same reasons as most players - distancing from gamestate and not really pushing, rather taking a backseat.
Everyone else I have no read on yet
I don't think reducing 15 posts to just 'backpedaling' gives me a lot to work with. I don't think Misty actively is pushing for me at all, rather choosing to take a backseat.
I'm tired of this topic though
Misty is on me for unknown reasons but it seems she's just agreeing with what others say and following suit. I don't know if she has a case on me at all.
Amy is fixated on #p216 (idk how to do this) and really didn't engage with the approximately 15 replies I posted explaining that vote. I'm not sure if she's just on me for pressure or if she has a genuine read on me, but I wish she would elaborate it a bit more, so I could engage with it.
OM randomly calling 3 people scum d1 was poor play imo. His sr on you and Sami was disingenious. I've moved past it due to him having much better posts later in the day
Is there a way that posting replies doesnt take you back to the last page, this is annoying
Hi, have abt an hour so decided to jump on.
Won’t be able to talk until at least 12 hrs. If you want me to address anything, just lmk
Wrt to my above post, it was at the time of me voting blurb, so he had only made his trolly first post by then
if he opens the thread, he speaks and we get a reaction from him.
if he doesn't open the thread, he dies and we lose someone not of value.
TLDR of my rationale.
gn all, still have page 6-7 to comment on but will look at it later
##Vote OM Room
Like I said, I don't like providing reads without reasoning and I'm heading to bed soon. Since you asked though, I do TR Litt and Sami and SL OM atp. The reasoning can be inferred from my above posts. Everyone else will have to wait until tomorrow, please do follow up with me on this though
At least, that's what I'm perceiving this to be.