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    Sticky: this is very much a larger issue yeah, that kind...

    Quote Originally Posted by Haru Okumura (#347)
    Quote Originally Posted by Art3mis (#338)
    Winners Advance is a wonderful idea and goes a long way towards eliminating things like "wolves didn't win, town just sucked" which when you rand wolf, play your $%#! off, and win, is a horrific gut punch at absolute best. Walking into Spec Chat after a hard fought wolf win only to see 3 days worth of "lol willage" and "town threw this away" sucks a lot.

    Your accomplishments being diminished like that is part of the toxicity of spec chat that people haven't addressed yet so I'm glad you tangentially brought it up.

    I have a lot of feelings here I'm struggling to put into words, sorry
    I think this is an issue larger than just champs sadly. We meme about it a lot of the time, but it's truthful that post game toxicity is higher in wolf wins than village wins (I think for a while the quote was "why does it always have to be a $%#!show? why can't it ever just be that the wolves played better gg?"). Go read the postgame of the last 3 team games and check how the post game of the 2 village wins compared to the wolf win. Anni 2020 also says hi when compared to the village ones (these are just my own personal examples off the top of my head).

    We've thrown around theories on why this is in the past: maybe it's because people think villages "should" win if played well, maybe it's because people view villages as the "good team", maybe it's because people rand villager way more often so have more ideas of "constructive" criticism, maybe it's because being fooled/wrong hurts more than solving/being correct feels good. Maybe it's a combo, maybe it's none of it, we haven't really landed on an answer. It's just become kind of an accepted thing about our site culture at this point.

    You're right that "lol town threw", "X was an obvious wolf what a punt", and the like are just miserable to hear as a wolf (and frankly as a villager who got it wrong too). Hopefully we can improve on this topic and start giving wolves credit more often, especially in larger games like champs/main mashes/etc.
    this is very much a larger issue yeah, that kind of $%#! postgame in wolf wins isn't fun for anyone actually involved in the game's ending instead of sitting in dvc and it's a larger cultural problem that it exists
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    Sticky: fwiw this thread isn't at all the extent of what...

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa (#175)
    yeah i mean i was thinking of it more as people mentioning what they may prefer in that regard to get a general sense when scheduling than catering to (or trying to cater to) every single individual need

    i think going with a new base/deciding in discussion threads like this is ~fine but it will mean the majority of people did not have a say/did not feel comfortable speaking up, whereas a form or some way of providing feedback that way is more likely to give voice to more opinions
    fwiw this thread isn't at all the extent of what we plan to do regarding champs feedback including on that particular element, this is just a starting point. I agree that only using one location for feedback has hefty limitations
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    Sticky: yeah so here's my take, this is a pretty gameplay...

    Quote Originally Posted by Arapocalypse (#19)
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuti plz (#16)
    I think games should have varied post caps alongside varying time preference. People have different posting styles as you have said. Should a high posting community player change their style to adjust to a low post cap because some communities are low posting?
    That's come up as a consideration before but if I recall correctly it was not considered feasible due to all the currently existing restrictions which make scheduling games to people's preferences difficult even now!!

    @Lissa can correct me if I'm misremembering!!!
    yeah so here's my take, this is a pretty gameplay affecting feature, and it's not possible to accommodate every preference as it is even now. I don't feel good at all about the idea of someone having to wind up in a game that's very unsuited to their preferences in this regard, and it will happen. I'm also not a huge fan of there being gameplay-affecting structural variants to that degree between games but the big thing is that it'll $%#! some people over in a way I think feels like... really bad? It's hard to articulate why I think this is uniquely bad relative to other scheduling issues but I do think that's the case.
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    Completed REVEAL (PART NINE) The Season 9 Mafia...

    REVEAL (PART NINE)


    The Season 9 Mafia Champion, with 94 points, is...









    @Lumi (SC2 Mafia)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART EIGHT) In 2nd place with 93...

    REVEAL (PART EIGHT)


    In 2nd place with 93 points, only one point behind the Season 9 Champion, is...









    @Tilgarial (Novel Updates)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART SEVEN) In 3rd place with 64...

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    In 3rd place with 64 points is...







    @Wisp (Mafia Colosseum)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART SIX) In 4th place with 37 points...

    REVEAL (PART SIX)

    In 4th place with 37 points is...







    @neopest (ArcMafia)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART FIVE) In 5th place with 36 points...

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    @marmot (The Syndicate)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART FOUR) In 6th place with 35 points...

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    In 6th place with 35 points is...







    @Violet (Kyla)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART THREE) In 7th place with 32...

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    In 7th place with 32 points is...







    @Conq (Play Diplomacy) and @supershorty (Student Doctor Network)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART TWO) This was the vote...

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    This was the vote distribution:

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    Completed sorry for delay friends REVEAL (PART ONE) ...

    sorry for delay friends

    REVEAL (PART ONE)

    14 people received at least one vote, and two people received first place votes!
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    Completed revealing 8pm eastern today

    revealing 8pm eastern today
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    Completed VOTING TIME . Ace Marvel Conq ...

    VOTING TIME



    All players that participated in this game must vote for who you think is the best all-around mafia player based on what you've seen from this game.

    THIS IS NOT AN MVP VOTE, nor is it a vote for the player who had the most positive impact on the game (otherwise the people who died early would rarely be in contention). Instead, you should vote based off who you think displayed the most overall skill as either alignment.

    You are giving a RANKED TOP 7.

    The names should be ordered from first to last. The first player will receive 8 points, the second player will receive 7 points, the third player will receive 6 points, and so on until the seventh player will receive 2 points. You may not include yourself in your votes.

    PM your votes to me, please.
  15. Completed REVEAL (PART NINE) In first place with 91...

    REVEAL (PART NINE)

    In first place with 91 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @DkKoba (Kongregate)!
  16. Completed REVEAL (PART EIGHT) In second place with 73...

    REVEAL (PART EIGHT)

    In second place with 73 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @illario (EpicMafia)!
  17. Completed REVEAL (PART SEVEN) In 3rd place with 71...

    REVEAL (PART SEVEN)

    In 3rd place with 71 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Seven (Smashboard) and @Violet (Kyla)!
  18. Completed REVEAL (PART SIX) In 5th place with 51 points...

    REVEAL (PART SIX)

    In 5th place with 51 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Ace Marvel (The Bell Tree)!
  19. Completed REVEAL (PART FIVE) In 6th place with 34 points...

    REVEAL (PART FIVE)

    In 6th place with 34 points is...







    @Psycho666Soldier (Rajah)!
  20. Completed REVEAL (PART FOUR) In 7th place with 30 points...

    REVEAL (PART FOUR)

    In 7th place with 30 points is...







    @bladescape (Giant in the Playground)!
  21. Completed REVEAL (PART THREE) In 8th place with 26...

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    @Guiri (The Giraffe Boards)!
  22. Completed REVEAL (PART TWO) This was the vote...

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    14 people received at least one vote, and five of them received at least one first place vote.
  24. Completed sorry guys it was me I ate all the sandwiches you...

    sorry guys it was me I ate all the sandwiches you were supposed to be voting on

    revealing @ 1pm tomorrow(today/saturday)
  25. Completed VOTING TIME . Ace Marvel bladescape...

    VOTING TIME



    All players that participated in this game must vote for who you think is the best all-around mafia player based on what you've seen from this game.

    THIS IS NOT AN MVP VOTE, nor is it a vote for the player who had the most positive impact on the game (otherwise the people who died early would rarely be in contention). Instead, you should vote based off who you think displayed the most overall skill as either alignment.

    You are giving a RANKED TOP 7.

    The names should be ordered from first to last. The first player will receive 8 points, the second player will receive 7 points, the third player will receive 6 points, and so on until the seventh player will receive 2 points. You may not include yourself in your votes.

    The top 5 players will advance to the Finale.

    PM your votes to me, please.

    Ideally I'd like to reveal votes in about 3 days. If you need a bit more time, this is totally fine, but please let me know!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART EIGHT) In 1st place with 78...

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    @neopest (ArcMafia)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART SEVEN) In 2nd place with 72...

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    @marmot (The Syndicate)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART SIX) In 3rd place with 54 points...

    REVEAL (PART SIX)

    In 3rd place with 54 points and advancing to the Finale are...







    @Poyser (wrestlingmarks.com) and @Conq (PlayDiplomacy)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART FIVE) In 5th place with 53 points...

    REVEAL (PART FIVE)

    In 5th place with 53 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Tilgarial (Novel Updates)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART FOUR) In 6th place with 44 points...

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    In 6th place with 44 points is...







    @sothys (PokerNet)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART THREE) In 7th place with 33...

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    @DoctorZeus (Two Plus Two) and @WindwardAway (Fortress of Lies)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART TWO) This was the vote...

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    Completed REVEAL (PART ONE) Every player received at...

    REVEAL (PART ONE)

    Every player received at least one vote, and seven different players received at least one first place vote.
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    Completed sorry for delay, reveal at 2pm eastern tomorrow

    sorry for delay, reveal at 2pm eastern tomorrow
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    Completed VOTING TIME . Conq marmot ...

    VOTING TIME



    All players that participated in this game must vote for who you think is the best all-around mafia player based on what you've seen from this game.

    THIS IS NOT AN MVP VOTE, nor is it a vote for the player who had the most positive impact on the game (otherwise the people who died early would rarely be in contention). Instead, you should vote based off who you think displayed the most overall skill as either alignment.

    You are giving a RANKED TOP 7.

    The names should be ordered from first to last. The first player will receive 8 points, the second player will receive 7 points, the third player will receive 6 points, and so on until the seventh player will receive 2 points. You may not include yourself in your votes.

    The top 5 players will advance to the Finale.

    PM your votes to me, please.

    Ideally I'd like to reveal votes in about 3 days. If you need a bit more time, this is totally fine, but please let me know!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART TEN) In 1st place with 75 points...

    REVEAL (PART TEN)

    In 1st place with 75 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Santygrass (MafiaLandia)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART NINE) In 2nd place with 73 points...

    REVEAL (PART NINE)

    In 2nd place with 73 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Ephemera (PokeBeach)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART EIGHT) In 3rd place with 67...

    REVEAL (PART EIGHT)

    In 3rd place with 67 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Wisp (Mafia Colosseum)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART SEVEN) In 4th place with 50...

    REVEAL (PART SEVEN)

    In 4th place with 50 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @supershorty (Student Doctor Network)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART SIX) In 5th place with 48 points...

    REVEAL (PART SIX)

    In 5th place with 48 points and advancing to the Finale is...







    @Lumi (SC2Mafia)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART FIVE) In 6th place with 47 points...

    REVEAL (PART FIVE)

    In 6th place with 47 points is...







    @arogame123 (Super Mafia All-Stars)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART FOUR) In 7th place with 38 points...

    REVEAL (PART FOUR)

    In 7th place with 38 points is...







    @Arete (Chief Delphi)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART THREE) In 8th place with 33...

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    In 8th place with 33 points is...







    @Fext (Zelda Dungeon)!
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    Completed REVEAL (PART TWO) This is the vote...

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    Completed REVEAL (PART ONE) 13 people received at least...

    REVEAL (PART ONE)

    13 people received at least one vote, and six of them received at least one first place vote.
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    Completed sorry, kinda got home from a long day and spaced...

    sorry, kinda got home from a long day and spaced out for a while

    reveal is tomorrow (today/tuesday) at 2pm edt, regardless of if i get last vote by then
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    Completed VOTING TIME . Arete arogame123 ...

    VOTING TIME



    All players that participated in this game must vote for who you think is the best all-around mafia player based on what you've seen from this game.

    THIS IS NOT AN MVP VOTE, nor is it a vote for the player who had the most positive impact on the game (otherwise the people who died early would rarely be in contention). Instead, you should vote based off who you think displayed the most overall skill as either alignment.

    You are giving a RANKED TOP 7.

    The names should be ordered from first to last. The first player will receive 8 points, the second player will receive 7 points, the third player will receive 6 points, and so on until the seventh player will receive 2 points. You may not include yourself in your votes.

    The top 5 players will advance to the Finale.

    PM your votes to me, please.

    Ideally I'd like to reveal votes in about 3 days. If you need a bit more time, this is totally fine, but please let me know!
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    Sticky: Fontana replaces Sunbae in SF3 pregame.

    @Fontana replaces Sunbae in SF3 pregame.
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    Sticky: Awesome, thanks Confirming this swap is...

    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#1127)
    Quote Originally Posted by Seven (#1121)
    Quote Originally Posted by Seven (#1118)
    My schedule has become unexpectedly loaded and it's looking like I'm probably not going to be able to play the week of the 8th. Is it possible to swap with someone in game 3? If not, I may need to be replaced unfortunately. Sorry for the inconvenience :(.

    @bladescape
    @Chilly
    @Datisi
    @DkKoba
    @Hedin
    @illario
    @Jackofhearts2005
    @moth
    @NANOOKTHECONQUEROR
    @Psycho666Soldier
    @roro__b
    @Schiavetto
    @Sunbae The Org
    @Violet
    yes
    @Lissa
    @Arapocalypse

    I would do this.
    Awesome, thanks

    Confirming this swap is seen/acknowedged
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    Thread: i'm zack, ama

    by Lissa
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    was that your avatar during the rick and morty...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zack (#95)
    Quote Originally Posted by c4e5g3d5 (#76)
    Rank the avatars you've used
    There are way too many and I don't have all of them easily accessible. I do like batmanthinking.gif and will probably keep it for awhile

    I really like this one but iirc it was somewhat controversial/disliked by others:

    was that your avatar during the rick and morty game? very random but it instantly sprung to mind and now I'm curious
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