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    But... I was going to be rooting for jack......

    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#10428)
    Instead of thinking about bad, terrible things, I will thank congratulators and well-wishers, so long as they aren't named Jack.
    But... I was going to be rooting for jack... since we named the monkey jack.
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    Well, it's possible monkey is town....

    Well, it's possible monkey is town.
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    International monkey Day is December 14th.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy (#10406)
    what date does finals start
    International monkey Day is December 14th.
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    Congratz monkey, advancers, and all players. Go...

    Congratz monkey, advancers, and all players. Go WC2!!
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    Sometimes they discuss cheese. I'm just sayin'.

    Sometimes they discuss cheese. I'm just sayin'.
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    They're all burning monkey sacrifices and dancing...

    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#10370)
    Does spec get rowdy during these reveals? I've still never joined. I'm pretty sure I would see my general productivity go completely negative if I was in a big discord server.
    They're all burning monkey sacrifices and dancing hysterically.
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    Can we have another monkey/jack battle anyways?

    Can we have another monkey/jack battle anyways?
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    Deep & wide

    Deep & wide
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    I do baptisms....

    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#10337)
    Fuggles is the best and I'm bad and I feel bad.
    I do baptisms.
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    I get that a lot too.

    I get that a lot too.
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    peeing on the tires is best.

    peeing on the tires is best.
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    The Swedish flag is pretty cool though. Pretty...

    The Swedish flag is pretty cool though. Pretty cool.
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    My homesite is asking me who to root for in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boquise (#10326)
    Gg all and good job to the baddies!
    S T O K E D for the votes
    My homesite is asking me who to root for in finals.
    Frankly, there ARE players who've contributed to a lot of champs game flavour.
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    Sorry we got wonky, Dad.

    Sorry we got wonky, Dad.
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    https://discord.gg/ebXaWF

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    Yeah, Modbot has been truly awful last 2 games....

    Yeah, Modbot has been truly awful last 2 games. It would have been interesting to see the game without that a factor.
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    It's likely just a style thing, and SR was...

    It's likely just a style thing, and SR was vanilla so (attack mode on), but it would have been nice to see SK and SR live a wee longer.
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    You were sooo close, Cobalt. Still, shoulda shot...

    You were sooo close, Cobalt. Still, shoulda shot DarkM instead of Zara. I'm just sayin'. And I still don't know why the wolfies gave you an extra day - going to read wolf chat...
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    Congratz monkey, Dark, and all players, and...

    Congratz monkey, Dark, and all players, and thanks for the game, Lissa, and all the great flavour, Mantichora. With 2 Mantis of course they're gonna win - it's double the pleasure, double the fun!

    gm7 wolves 4-ever (w/monkey as honourary wolfie, now full-fledged)!
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    Congrats to all out champions.

    Congrats to all out champions.
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    I thought the Gallery Hall of Past Champions was...

    I thought the Gallery Hall of Past Champions was the real high point.

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    Thread: I'm Moonious. AMA.

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    It's practically visionary.

    It's practically visionary.
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    Thread: I'm Moonious. AMA.

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    The grammar police know it's possible.

    The grammar police know it's possible.
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    Thread: I'm Moonious. AMA.

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    I see that maybe you're from the PersonalityCafe....

    I see that maybe you're from the PersonalityCafe. Does that mean you've sampled their ENTP mocha latte with cinnamon sprinkles?
  25. I already have, but you have refusedto...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8447)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8443)
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8426)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8406)
    No. Where did you get Adrian from? And I don't think BOTH Amp AND beruru can be mafia. And yes, Fable is mafia.
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#7801)
    My reads depend on a flip of Fable as wolf. I believe myc spewed Fable as wolf but that Fable has also been even wolfier since. So if Fables flips wolf we get more associative info of which we can be sure, and I think that especially points to Ampharos. beruru is assuring that Amp is town.

    If wolves are not in those 3, and I think given how vocal beruru has been in support of all three there's a good possibility not 3 are mafia, it gets a lot harder. It's hard enough working through all the Fable flip-flops days 3 & 4, but even with a Fable flip we're stuck sorting though non-associations or some serious shading or worse by wolves on wolves.

    I'd still think for various reasons that Fuggles, DarkM, Cobalt would then be spewed clear; and I'd still think Amp & beruru look a bit worse than others, but I'd have to reevaluate Adrian, monkey, and jack with the fresh info.

    Monkey has been my #1 town most of the game and she makes a pretty good case on Amp/Fable/beru, apart from how buddy-buddy they've been. Dad died screaming “Amp!”, but monkey says maybe not Amp.

    I've had jack town all game too and he's made some very townie posts. He declares beruru is caught, being dishonest against Dad, jack, and Dark. But he also doubts that he's right on all of Fable, Amp, and beruru.

    Monkey and Fuggles say to maybe look at Adrian, though Adrian too has Fable as an outed wolf and looking at Amp next.

    DarkM and Amp make sure to get their Fable votes in early today. And when Fable shows up accussing Fuggles on the Dad lynch he looks espcially bad.
    Me/fuggles/cobalt spew’d clear
    Monkey as town
    Jack
    Beru
    Adrian
    Amph

    is this not your order?
    No, it's not.
    Correct me or get my vote
    I already have, but you have refusedto acknowledge it.
  26. No, it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8426)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8406)
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8387)
    Grit... Aren't your bottom three amph/adrian/beru? You're also on Fable?
    No. Where did you get Adrian from? And I don't think BOTH Amp AND beruru can be mafia. And yes, Fable is mafia.
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#7801)
    My reads depend on a flip of Fable as wolf. I believe myc spewed Fable as wolf but that Fable has also been even wolfier since. So if Fables flips wolf we get more associative info of which we can be sure, and I think that especially points to Ampharos. beruru is assuring that Amp is town.

    If wolves are not in those 3, and I think given how vocal beruru has been in support of all three there's a good possibility not 3 are mafia, it gets a lot harder. It's hard enough working through all the Fable flip-flops days 3 & 4, but even with a Fable flip we're stuck sorting though non-associations or some serious shading or worse by wolves on wolves.

    I'd still think for various reasons that Fuggles, DarkM, Cobalt would then be spewed clear; and I'd still think Amp & beruru look a bit worse than others, but I'd have to reevaluate Adrian, monkey, and jack with the fresh info.

    Monkey has been my #1 town most of the game and she makes a pretty good case on Amp/Fable/beru, apart from how buddy-buddy they've been. Dad died screaming “Amp!”, but monkey says maybe not Amp.

    I've had jack town all game too and he's made some very townie posts. He declares beruru is caught, being dishonest against Dad, jack, and Dark. But he also doubts that he's right on all of Fable, Amp, and beruru.

    Monkey and Fuggles say to maybe look at Adrian, though Adrian too has Fable as an outed wolf and looking at Amp next.

    DarkM and Amp make sure to get their Fable votes in early today. And when Fable shows up accussing Fuggles on the Dad lynch he looks espcially bad.
    Me/fuggles/cobalt spew’d clear
    Monkey as town
    Jack
    Beru
    Adrian
    Amph

    is this not your order?
    No, it's not.
  27. No, it's bull. Town still hasn't decided where to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt (#8409)
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8404)
    All the people who scumread Beru are on the fable wagon and it makes me ????

    Like the Vigi will shoot fable, he will die.

    Fable wagon is "I need townpoints" wagon
    Omg THANK YOU
    No, it's bull. Town still hasn't decided where to even direct the vig. And we need the wolf flip.
  28. No. Where did you get Adrian from? And I don't...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8387)
    Grit... Aren't your bottom three amph/adrian/beru? You're also on Fable?
    No. Where did you get Adrian from? And I don't think BOTH Amp AND beruru can be mafia. And yes, Fable is mafia.
  29. Then why vote Adrian?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt (#8386)
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuggles (#8382)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt (#8378)
    I know them better than you.

    I will elaborate on this further ( I was already supposed to) but I just modded a game with wolf Beru and they were LITERALLY NOTHING LIKE THIS. Pls
    Smh then give me a scum world where I'm not in it.
    Myc/Fable/Grit/(Monkey, Jack)
    Then why vote Adrian?
  30. That's not true. And I think you actually believe...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8356)
    The entire side of Jack/monkey/grit thinks beru is scum but isnt voting him?
    That's not true. And I think you actually believe I am town.
  31. It's OK voting a player who has said they can't...

    It's OK voting a player who has said they can't be here, but if you're doing it the honourable thing would have been to at least have presented a case while he was here and ready for questioning. Some of you did.
  32. It hasn't changed with further research and...

    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8323)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8321)
    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8315)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8314)
    They're either wolves or wrong. Players can ve wrong. I've been wrong. That's part of the game.
    I think all wolves (who don't) of course want other players to think that.
    how do you feel about those players in specific, then
    You mean reads? I've given those recently, twice. Or are you trying to go somewhere more specific wuth this? It doesn't bother me that players make decisions.
    no i want you to write how you feel about everyone again, in a reads list type fashion
    It hasn't changed with further research and dialog.

    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#7801)
    My reads depend on a flip of Fable as wolf. I believe myc spewed Fable as wolf but that Fable has also been even wolfier since. So if Fables flips wolf we get more associative info of which we can be sure, and I think that especially points to Ampharos. beruru is assuring that Amp is town.

    If wolves are not in those 3, and I think given how vocal beruru has been in support of all three there's a good possibility not 3 are mafia, it gets a lot harder. It's hard enough working through all the Fable flip-flops days 3 & 4, but even with a Fable flip we're stuck sorting though non-associations or some serious shading or worse by wolves on wolves.

    I'd still think for various reasons that Fuggles, DarkM, Cobalt would then be spewed clear; and I'd still think Amp & beruru look a bit worse than others, but I'd have to reevaluate Adrian, monkey, and jack with the fresh info.

    Monkey has been my #1 town most of the game and she makes a pretty good case on Amp/Fable/beru, apart from how buddy-buddy they've been. Dad died screaming “Amp!”, but monkey says maybe not Amp.

    I've had jack town all game too and he's made some very townie posts. He declares beruru is caught, being dishonest against Dad, jack, and Dark. But he also doubts that he's right on all of Fable, Amp, and beruru.

    Monkey and Fuggles say to maybe look at Adrian, though Adrian too has Fable as an outed wolf and looking at Amp next.

    DarkM and Amp make sure to get their Fable votes in early today. And when Fable shows up accussing Fuggles on the Dad lynch he looks espcially bad.
    Some of the circumstances have maybe changed with what some players have revealed on their reads, but I think most of those are no new reads, just new reveals. I still want a sure wolf flip.
  33. You mean reads? I've given those recently, twice....

    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8315)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8314)
    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8305)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8304)
    I really don't think anyone doubts where my vote goes.

    ##Vote Fable
    how do you feel about most people thinking you're a wolf with fable?
    They're either wolves or wrong. Players can ve wrong. I've been wrong. That's part of the game.
    I think all wolves (who don't) of course want other players to think that.
    how do you feel about those players in specific, then
    You mean reads? I've given those recently, twice. Or are you trying to go somewhere more specific wuth this? It doesn't bother me that players make decisions.
  34. They're either wolves or wrong. Players can ve...

    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8305)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8304)
    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8302)
    @grit

    no vote?

    how do you feel right now. what's going on my dude
    I really don't think anyone doubts where my vote goes.

    ##Vote Fable
    how do you feel about most people thinking you're a wolf with fable?
    They're either wolves or wrong. Players can ve wrong. I've been wrong. That's part of the game.
    I think all wolves (who don't) of course want other players to think that.
  35. I really don't think anyone doubts where my vote...

    Quote Originally Posted by beruru (#8302)
    @grit

    no vote?

    how do you feel right now. what's going on my dude
    I really don't think anyone doubts where my vote goes.

    ##Vote Fable
  36. So you'd put a buddy on top or bottom?

    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#8280)
    I also am wary of putting too much weight into d1 reads unless they heavily connect to something else but maybe that's just me.
    So you'd put a buddy on top or bottom?
  37. Do you make much of Fable having you in the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ampharos (#8266)
    just found out there's a chance I'll have to leave like 5 minutes from eod

    thanks work
    Do you make much of Fable having you in the middle of their Day 1 reads list as Null ? 1333

    Quote Originally Posted by Fable (#1333)
    Amphy- Disclaimer: I am a narcissist. I kinda like their post about me, I also like their posts directed to jack and in general haven't seen anything that's come across as agenda-y that being said most of his reads just being "feels" doesn't do it for me and I would have to see him push something and their being actual reasons for it before I could feel good about him a villager.
  38. I'm just saying all three voted off the myc wagon...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobalt (#8254)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8234)
    ^ And then, Amp, beruru, and Fable all start D3 voting DarkM, like bam, bam, bam.
    How is that w/w though? I find it extremely likely that only one of those votes comes from a wolf.
    I'm just saying all three voted off the myc wagon D2. Day 2! Now, I fully realise some players were off wagon for the purpose of NOT ending to day too early. But then they also open Day 3 voting in close order as a block.

    I'm not saying it's w/w. I'm contrasting them with DarkM, who they voted.
  39. Then asks beruru what they think of Amp. "beruru...

    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8250)
    Or Amp. On his 1st thorough reads list he waffles on beruru, but leaves Amp completely off.
    Then asks beruru what they think of Amp. "beruru & SR: What exactly is your stance on Amph right now?"
  40. Or Amp. On his 1st thorough reads list he waffles...

    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8240)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#8235)
    If it’s one of Beru and Amph, who is it?
    myc opens saying it's beruru.
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8244)
    maybe
    Or Amp. On his 1st thorough reads list he waffles on beruru, but leaves Amp completely off.
  41. maybe

  42. myc opens saying it's beruru.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#8235)
    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#8216)
    I've looked and looked and I still think the D1 myc wagon is pure. There's the possibility monkey especially may have been looking for town cred, but did she really need it, really? And, yeah, I know that means all the wolves were piled on Buffy, which to me would be an anomaly.

    But if pure, that again means wolves (in no particular order apart from the ModBot vote record) are in Darkmanticorex2, beruru, grit, Fable, and Ampharos. And at least 2 wolves there is a strong probability. And I know I'm not one. And we know Fable is one. So DarkM, beruru, or Ampharos is most certainly bad.
    If it’s one of Beru and Amph, who is it?
    myc opens saying it's beruru.
  43. ^ And then, Amp, beruru, and Fable all start D3...

    ^ And then, Amp, beruru, and Fable all start D3 voting DarkM, like bam, bam, bam.
  44. So DarkM, beruru, or Ampharos is most certainly...

    So DarkM, beruru, or Ampharos is most certainly bad.

    Again, all three were off the myc wagon D2.

    beruru and Amp were on DarkM, and with scum!myc, scum!Fable, and Adrian). So again, if beruru & Amp it would mean all wolves were there together, and that seems improbale to me, though 1 vote may have swing the lynch.

    DarkM was alone on Fable. It would have been a great place to hide if no self-pres was needed. But there are other things, of course, in DarkM's favour.
  45. I've looked and looked and I still think the D1...

    I've looked and looked and I still think the D1 myc wagon is pure. There's the possibility monkey especially may have been looking for town cred, but did she really need it, really? And, yeah, I know that means all the wolves were piled on Buffy, which to me would be an anomaly.

    But if pure, that again means wolves (in no particular order apart from the ModBot vote record) are in Darkmanticorex2, beruru, grit, Fable, and Ampharos. And at least 2 wolves there is a strong probability. And I know I'm not one. And we know Fable is one. So DarkM, beruru, or Ampharos is most certainly bad.
  46. Town just won Wild 1. C'mon, me'hearties.

    Town just won Wild 1. C'mon, me'hearties.
  47. I'm saved!...

    I'm saved!
  48. I want the Fable flip. I want us to lynch Fable...

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmanticorex2 (#8112)
    Grit what is your POE right now?

    Based on your last post that had something resembling a readlist, you had

    Me/fuggles/cobalt spew’d clear
    Monkey as town
    Jack
    Beru
    Adrian
    Amph

    Something like this?
    I want the Fable flip. I want us to lynch Fable today.

    Quote Originally Posted by grit (#7801)
    My reads depend on a flip of Fable as wolf. I believe myc spewed Fable as wolf but that Fable has also been even wolfier since. So if Fables flips wolf we get more associative info of which we can be sure, and I think that especially points to Ampharos. beruru is assuring that Amp is town.

    If wolves are not in those 3, and I think given how vocal beruru has been in support of all three there's a good possibility not 3 are mafia, it gets a lot harder. It's hard enough working through all the Fable flip-flops days 3 & 4, but even with a Fable flip we're stuck sorting though non-associations or some serious shading or worse by wolves on wolves.

    I'd still think for various reasons that Fuggles, DarkM, Cobalt would then be spewed clear; and I'd still think Amp & beruru look a bit worse than others, but I'd have to reevaluate Adrian, monkey, and jack with the fresh info.

    Monkey has been my #1 town most of the game and she makes a pretty good case on Amp/Fable/beru, apart from how buddy-buddy they've been. Dad died screaming “Amp!”, but monkey says maybe not Amp.

    I've had jack town all game too and he's made some very townie posts. He declares beruru is caught, being dishonest against Dad, jack, and Dark. But he also doubts that he's right on all of Fable, Amp, and beruru.

    Monkey and Fuggles say to maybe look at Adrian, though Adrian too has Fable as an outed wolf and looking at Amp next.

    DarkM and Amp make sure to get their Fable votes in early today. And when Fable shows up accussing Fuggles on the Dad lynch he looks espcially bad.
    I've thought the last wolves might be in beruru/Amp, but I'm never been very confident in that, 'cause they've been way too buddy-buddy throughout the game. That means there's likely a wolf in Adrian or the gm7 gang, and with the gm7 gang that could be anyone, and you know that for a fact. Every one of us have strong points for and against.
  49. I've already said I don't like putting off a...

    Quote Originally Posted by hey_monkey (#8075)

    Boy that's a nice twist. IF you are town (signs point to perhaps not), there's good information from such a lynch. But definitely predicated on an IF.

    grit, why do you think people seem resistant to actually lynching Fable today? I mean, the vig plan is well and good but it does mean not lynching an all but outed wolf.
    I've already said I don't like putting off a Fable lynch, though for a lost vig who shot Zara it's not so bad a plan to have us experiment with a risk rather than them. I just think we need the certainty and that it's the better way to go. We're doing what we can to sort as well as we can before the lynch, to give the vig... enough.

    I don't know if that's completely why a Fable lynch has met with some resistance, or even that it really has. The last 2 wolves are maybe in a different calibre than myc or Fable - though, yeah, they both got caught with too little time to really adjust to developments. The last 2 wolves have better cover, like having 2 DarkMs in one game... maybe. And I say maybe because a couple of folk look a wee too obvious, maybe, and no doubt at least 1 mafia has brought their A game.
  50. Well, how about what you think? For example, it's...

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian (#8070)
    @grit, you need to spell out how exactly Fable spews Fuggles town.
    Well, how about what you think? For example, it's pretty clear the Fuggles vote on Fable that was rejected and led to the Dad lynch was made before the buzzer. Would you agree? And if so, do you think a 2nd bus was on that day, to actually get Fable lynched by Fuggles at the last second?
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