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    Completed Chemist1422

    ##Vote Chemist1422
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    Completed Does anyone who knows aldo know whether or not...

    Does anyone who knows aldo know whether or not he's likely to bus his wolf partners?
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    Completed Amberiat probably the least likely to flip wolf....

    Amberiat probably the least likely to flip wolf. Let me look back into why, but there were some posts I've really liked and that one is one of them
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    Completed I've been there. I personally think you're more...

    Quote Originally Posted by Amberiat (#3991)
    At the very least I tried to get my $#@! together and help town get its own $#@! together as well

    I know I've dug my own grave D1 and D2 but my efforts during D3 alone are far more than what most others did during the entire game

    So no regrets either
    I've been there. I personally think you're more likely villager than wolf but the thread doesn't listen to me anyway -\_o_o_/-
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    Completed I don't really mind these wagons, I feel like...

    I don't really mind these wagons, I feel like they have decent chances to flip scum
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    Completed I think I should have been in bed a few hours ago

    I think I should have been in bed a few hours ago
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    Completed I'm annoying but you love me anyway, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3764)
    Quote Originally Posted by Scare (#3763)
    Its not so much about spew its more like, their posts together didnt feel w/w, sure, but I think its more beeboy confidence and talking about how meta doesnt matter but then dumps his own meta

    it seems so brash and silly and townie
    it's a steaming pile of manure is what it is, but whatever, i'd rather lynch one of the annoying people than one of the vapid people.
    I'm annoying but you love me anyway, right?

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    Completed this wagon formation always lynches a wolf

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#3758)
    Dragon Ball Super Tournament of Power Mafia! Day 3 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    2 Chemist1422 Aldo (26), beeboy (10)
    2 eduardoleones Amberiat (59), JohnCarter (103)
    1 Amberiat Astros (9)
    1 beeboy eduardoleones (10)
    1 Monstrman Chemist1422 (12)
    1 JohnCarter DoubtingThomas (71)
    1 Gwendolly Wisp (93)
    1 Aldo Monstrman (42)
    1 Scare moth (141)
    1 Astros Grant (48)
    3 Not voting Gwendolly (6), starpendle (33), Scare (25)

    View Vote History

    End day at majority is enabled.

    Day 3 ends at 3:00 PM EST on Tuesday, January 8th, 2019. There are 1546977660000 remaining.

    Requested by Monstrman at 0 days, 13 hours, 45 minutes, 18 seconds remaining.
    this wagon formation always lynches a wolf
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    Completed I'm too tired to go look back and find them right...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#3745)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3743)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#3738)
    I am wholeheartedly avoiding monstr's posts just because im not in the mood... bleh
    I'm still waiting on you to answer some of my questions

    you may have a lot of posts and content but that's only worth so much
    where are these questions?
    I'm too tired to go look back and find them right now, but they had something to do with your opinion of my DT read and some other read I have that you were questioning that I can't remember rn, probably chemist

    I think you were gonna iso me and never did
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    Completed ;.;

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3751)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#3738)
    I am wholeheartedly avoiding monstr's posts just because im not in the mood... bleh
    ;.;
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    Completed I'm still waiting on you to answer some of my...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#3738)
    I am wholeheartedly avoiding monstr's posts just because im not in the mood... bleh
    I'm still waiting on you to answer some of my questions

    you may have a lot of posts and content but that's only worth so much
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    Completed beeboy hasn't acknowledged like anyone he...

    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#3715)
    beeboy hasnt engaged me nor acknowledged I exist.
    beeboy hasn't acknowledged like anyone

    he called me town earlier in the game and I don't know if he's followed up on that

    Why do you think chemist might be town?
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    Completed And you say you're not being abrasive

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3714)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3704)
    It's like I'm on an island all by myself all game every game where everyone is too afraid to completely village read me but also no one cares enough to truly read my posts or think beyond the surface about what might be on my mind when I say these things

    I'm tired of being at arms length with every thread I get into
    Alright if what you're demanding is the rest of us magically read your mind because you're so damn amazing and brilliant you shouldn't lower yourself to explaining things, good luck with that.

    Some of us think this is a team game, but you're welcome to take your solo act on the road.
    And you say you're not being abrasive
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    Completed inb4 grant "well don't hide your thoughts from...

    inb4 grant "well don't hide your thoughts from the thread then"
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    Completed It's like I'm on an island all by myself all game...

    It's like I'm on an island all by myself all game every game where everyone is too afraid to completely village read me but also no one cares enough to truly read my posts or think beyond the surface about what might be on my mind when I say these things

    I'm tired of being at arms length with every thread I get into
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    Completed And then I'm told I'm not enthusiastic enough,...

    And then I'm told I'm not enthusiastic enough, I'm too opaque, and nothing I say makes sense apparently, even though it really does but no one is thinking about the same things as me when I'm posting these things
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    Completed "Here's some clarification on my thoughts" ...

    "Here's some clarification on my thoughts"

    "your thoughts suck"

    "well ok"
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    Completed You're so abrasive to me, I hate it And then...

    You're so abrasive to me, I hate it

    And then you either don't see it or pretend it's not happening

    every time, it's like why do I bother posting to you at all?
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    Completed No, because the people jc believes are spewed...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3695)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3689)
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3685)
    JC i think you're off base here, i think Yurkin spews Ed + Dias/Chemist as villager if he spews anyone villager.
    I'm still debating over whether you fighting with me at every turn is villagery or not

    I don't remember the last time we were v/v though, and it's killing me. I mean, most times it seems like when you're v with me people want to lynch you and I'm spending all my time defending your slot
    Dude i'm not fighting you i'm begging for clarification, you're ridiculously opaque this game

    You straight up admit you're deliberately not posting your thoughts to "hide it from wolves" or whatever.

    The fact that you wrote this while quoting a post which only mentioned players who are not you clearly proves your mind is going places but leaving your words far, far behind.
    No, because the people jc believes are spewed town include me
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    Completed I'm still debating over whether you fighting with...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3685)
    JC i think you're off base here, i think Yurkin spews Ed + Dias/Chemist as villager if he spews anyone villager.
    I'm still debating over whether you fighting with me at every turn is villagery or not

    I don't remember the last time we were v/v though, and it's killing me. I mean, most times it seems like when you're v with me people want to lynch you and I'm spending all my time defending your slot
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    Completed I'm gonna sleep on it

    I'm gonna sleep on it
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    Completed Okay so bear with me here Let's say that aldo...

    Okay so bear with me here

    Let's say that aldo is actually softclaiming some kind of parity cop

    If he truly had peeks on the wolfteam he should be dead ten times over. What else has he been doing?
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    Completed I was playing with the idea that he was actually...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3677)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3559)
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3556)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3551)
    I've noticed a lot of things from aldo that I've simply not wanted to talk about,
    Now's a good time to start, buddy.

    Let it all out.

    Let it all out.
    Throw your hands up and shout

    Have you not noticed his "investigations?" showing people as "the same and different alignments?"

    I've tried not to let wolves notice this, idk
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3583)
    Is aldo the one that accidentally voted for me?

    I mean, in order to have done it on accident it sort of seems to me like it was considered in the first place

    idk, maybe he's just bsing
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3637)
    ##Vote aldo
    This progression is just really confusing

    If you think Aldo's wolfy enough to be your lynch today why are you worried about wolves "noticing" his posts?
    I was playing with the idea that he was actually just what he said he was, but I don't really think that's the case anymore. Apart from his "investigations", which I feel like he's just been reliant on, I don't know that I've seen much out of him aside from "lynch gwen"
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    Completed I have mixed feelings about voting aldo while...

    I have mixed feelings about voting aldo while he's voting one of my other scumreads
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    Completed Enlighten me as to what you mean by that? ...

    Enlighten me as to what you mean by that?

    Seems... vague
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    Completed I'll give you something to put in the back of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwendolly (#3647)
    Quote Originally Posted by yurkin (#737)
    I have Shinichi/monstr as town for now

    P.S. Was sick yesterday and still feel awful just in a different way
    Should keep that in backhead
    I'll give you something to put in the back of your head alright
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    Completed aldo

    ##Vote aldo
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    Completed I suppose I don't give dt enough credit insofar...

    I suppose I don't give dt enough credit insofar as he's probably a good enough wolf to not wolfread me and nothing else three games in a row, but I don't even know if that sort of thing is something he pays attention to in general

    Regardless, I still think DT is >>rand v
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    Completed Confirmation bias, some of the people w reading...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3586)
    Why does Amber need to be "resolved" so bad?

    Why can't we decide via the normal process of attempting to read his alignment?
    Confirmation bias, some of the people w reading him are wolves, he is a wolf

    I don't know if I can think of a fourth scenario?
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    Completed mafia is a game of give and take

    Quote Originally Posted by moth (#3584)
    im vt I dont even care that much what DT flips. Im just doing it because you told me to and if I dont follow you youll just berate me for being stupid and failing to see how obvtown you are
    mafia is a game of give and take
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    Completed Is aldo the one that accidentally voted for me? ...

    Is aldo the one that accidentally voted for me?

    I mean, in order to have done it on accident it sort of seems to me like it was considered in the first place

    idk, maybe he's just bsing
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    Completed No one ever thinks my reasoning is good enough ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3567)
    Monstr i was trying to tiptoe around you yesterday but how about today you just take my word for it that i'm not passive-aggressively hiding my arguments behind questions.

    (Or don't take my word for it, if you'd rather not interact with me).

    If you want to influence who's lynched today you'll need to provide some solid reasoning, which is a fair thing to ask.
    No one ever thinks my reasoning is good enough

    I just think people just listen to whoever yells
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    Completed interesting how both grant and amberiat...

    interesting how both grant and amberiat questioned that

    I don't think that's really a tell though

    maybe it's not interesting maybe I'm dumb
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    Completed but monstrman is a great guy and everyone loves...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3558)
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCarter (#3507)
    beeboy and monstr are spewed V by yurk.
    Based off of only 1 or 2 posts from a slow-poster, vig-bait slanker wolf?

    Naaah. They might get credit for them to live a day or two MAYBE but no one qualifies from cleared by spew yet.
    but monstrman is a great guy and everyone loves him

    or so i've heard
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    Completed Throw your hands up and shout Have you not...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3556)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3551)
    I've noticed a lot of things from aldo that I've simply not wanted to talk about,
    Now's a good time to start, buddy.

    Let it all out.

    Let it all out.
    Throw your hands up and shout

    Have you not noticed his "investigations?" showing people as "the same and different alignments?"

    I've tried not to let wolves notice this, idk
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    Completed so close

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3553)
    Quote Originally Posted by Amberiat (#3549)
    Guess I'll put Wisp's ISO on hold and check Grant's before I continue
    Great Excite!

    [IMG]https://media3.giphy.com/media/Zlhqv3nBIURPO/200w.webp?cid=3640f6095c33f730456f534c49b1b3ea[/IMG
    ]
    so close
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    Completed I'm kinda demoralized right now, like yeah,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Amberiat (#3548)
    I want Monstrman to be up there too, but his abrupt dropoff makes me paranoid about him tbh, not only activity-wise, but his content seems to be lacking a lot compared to before.

    I'm kinda demoralized right now, like yeah, yurkin got shot that's awesome but I spent all game telling people to do this stuff and idk, even now I still see people like grant saying "yeah but monstrman wasn't that enthusiastic about it."

    I've been reading the game, I think most people that are posting still are still more likely town than not, but I feel like this is exactly the play you would need to make as scum in this position so I don't know if I'm fully on board. I'd like to think JC and Moth are both town, and I think given the situation in the thread that it's more likely they come in "in it to win it" as villagers, and probably are less likely to rock the boat if they've just popped into the thread as a wolf. Maybe I don't know moth and JC as well as I would like, but from what I remember in mashes moth is very capable as a wolf, but has a difficult time imposing his will on the thread, which doesn't really seem like it's the case here as he's come in with a significant sense of ease insofar as he's trying to impose his will on the thread. Perhaps in a vaccuum I would call it villagery, which I suppose I could support.

    In the case of JC, I only really most recently recall the turbo I played where he slam dunked on dt with me so if we can find a wolf together he's probably just a villager

    On second thought, I think they're probably both fine, but I think it's a little bit not enough from either of us at that point to make that kind of surface level assessment. I think the people we need to solve right now are scare, chemist, gwen, beeboy, aldo

    I've noticed a lot of things from aldo that I've simply not wanted to talk about, and I think it might help support an inactive wolf team theory, though.
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    Completed Even if somehow it was a well thought out read...

    Even if somehow it was a well thought out read with lots of evidence I can hardly believe someone actually thinks I'm the best wagon right now
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    Completed Didn't mean to drop off today, fot suddenly busy...

    Didn't mean to drop off today, fot suddenly busy

    I'll be back in a few hours to dive back in

    My gut says that relacing in and making 77 content filled posts is very difficult for a wolf to do so I'm inclelined to believe moth is town as well, and probably the same with JC

    Jc, I noticed you post that you saw some yurkin spew that looks good for me. Idk if I missed it, but could you possibly elaborate? I ask because chemist seems to think yurkin spewed me scum
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    Completed Chemist1422 I wanna see some reads that have...

    @Chemist1422

    I wanna see some reads that have nothing to do with me

    preferably some strong ones
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    Completed Maybe that's a real read? I don't really remember...

    Maybe that's a real read? I don't really remember anything irt chemist from SSBU and even there it seemed like he wasn't really paying attention to me. IDK

    Still not 100% convinced someone can make that kind of spew assessment off one post
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    Completed The funny part about this is that I was playing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3306)
    Quote Originally Posted by starpendle (#3304)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3302)
    Hewwo
    Pinged you earlier, could you explain more about your scumread regarding Monstr? I feel like your only mention was one post Yurkin said.
    Oh yeah

    I also think his tone is way more serious than the SSBU Mash and some of his pressures felt like they had wolfy intent
    The funny part about this is that I was playing SSBU to win, and I WANT to play this game for fun, so I've actually been trying to be the opposite of serious

    I guess I just can't
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    Completed I love how almost all the people who scumread me...

    I love how almost all the people who scumread me so far have barely read my posts
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    Completed I actually did plenty of times before? I'm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisp (#3237)
    @osieorb13 @starpendle
    its easy for to gather Beeboys alignment just from the tone of his posts, even if some are utter crap

    @osieorb13
    also I understand where Aldo is coming from, at least mechanically, or he's a liar, and his breadcrumbs are utter bull$#@!
    secondly, your pocket attempt was denied
    lastly, that PR soft... but I guess with how his question was worded, you were almost obligated to answer, but also not really? "maybe, but my role isnt scummy" is just an oddily specific answer...

    @Amberiat
    so whats so bad about my post, if you have the ability to say its bad, you should also have enough reason to state why
    also from what I noticed, you dont pay attention a lot...

    @Monstrmann
    you never expressed before that his tone felt towny, why now?
    Why do you like about chemist?

    had plans to post more, but a turbo happened, and other things
    I actually did plenty of times before? I'm confused why you think i haven't said that about DT yet because I was village reading him all yesterday

    I don't like anything about chemist, in fact just the opposite. Are you sure you've been reading my posts?
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    Completed Is it bad and lazy if I say toan? You remind...

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (#3225)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3224)
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (#3221)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3218)
    Maybe Gwen, but I kind of liked Scare yesterday, he made some posts that I would think a wolf would have an extremely difficult time faking toward me
    what about me big boi
    I village read you yesterday. Viggo flipping v like I suspected doesn't really give me a reason to change that read.
    why you village read me
    Is it bad and lazy if I say toan?

    You remind me nothing of your wolfgame and you're questioning me at every turn
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    Completed I village read you yesterday. Viggo flipping v...

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (#3221)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3218)
    Quote Originally Posted by eduardoleones (#3215)
    Chemist and DT have their own issues but I don't think that DT is as good to deal with, and I think Chemist is less inherently susp than Gwen or even Scare.
    Maybe Gwen, but I kind of liked Scare yesterday, he made some posts that I would think a wolf would have an extremely difficult time faking toward me
    what about me big boi
    I village read you yesterday. Viggo flipping v like I suspected doesn't really give me a reason to change that read.
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    Completed Maybe Gwen, but I kind of liked Scare yesterday,...

    Quote Originally Posted by eduardoleones (#3215)
    Chemist and DT have their own issues but I don't think that DT is as good to deal with, and I think Chemist is less inherently susp than Gwen or even Scare.
    Maybe Gwen, but I kind of liked Scare yesterday, he made some posts that I would think a wolf would have an extremely difficult time faking toward me
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    Completed They obviously aren't all inactive, but I imagine...

    Quote Originally Posted by Transience (#3051)
    Quote Originally Posted by Monstrman (#3047)
    Or at least mostly inactive team
    why does it support it tho?, all we have is one dead

    I'll admit RE was an easy kill for an inactive team maybe but she was indeed a threat regardless of her post count
    which is more than we can say for short, say
    he had volume but not much threat to maf (assuming maf killed him here ofc)
    achro wouldnt have been an lazy maf kill either

    unless they're really lazy enough to be randing
    They obviously aren't all inactive, but I imagine 2 of them at least still are

    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3187)
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant (#3176)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist1422 (#3058)
    I’m gonna go read yurkin for spew
    so i read your yurkin MQ and i failed to find you coming up with anything actionable from it? Take us to the promised land, Chemist!
    From it I’m getting Monstr wolf mainly

    Not sure if anyone else would be up for the wagon
    Was it just that one post that you read, or is there some other reason you think I could be a wolf?

    I ask, because I don't really believe someone can make this kind of matter-of-fact assessment from a single post of wolf spew

    Also, considering that post, would you really characterize what I'm doing as "trying to control the thread" or did you have some specific set of posts in mind that I'm not aware of to show me that your assessment is accurate?
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    Completed Or at least mostly inactive team

    Or at least mostly inactive team
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    Completed I think yurkin flipping scum supports my inactive...

    I think yurkin flipping scum supports my inactive team theory
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