Type: Posts; User: -Rosen
No wolves allowed in the 7
Rich you were a policy vote :v
If there was anything I would change about this game I would have told myself to keep caring about the game by the midway point of Day 1. I really wanted to just replace out at that point and probably should have, but my lack of motivation to play in this environment murdered the $%#! out of my Day 2 lol
Rhand was never wolf here
But I guess that looks good for that wolf!rhand world was actually taken seriously
seriously $%#! this game though
What a boring, toxic $%#!ing game
##Vote Rich Parente
Wait $%#! it was tied
Hi I am here
I don’t have time to catch up right now but I will vote self-pres as much as I don’t like it. I feel I have things to answer for that I won’t get the chance to do if I die here.
I’m so sorry guys
I don’t think I’ll be able to really do anything here, getting caught up in move-in procedures and unlikely to get out any time soon.
I’ll try to read and post if I can, but I’m gonna be cutting it really close if at all.
Also I think Michelle’s vote is kind of poor here, only because it only really considers my recent frustration in the thread, and not everything else.
Pulling a TMI-read on a post that clearly doesn't mean what he thinks it does, and bringing up the G10 argument that I already clarified to Dizzy, and also implying that my IRL circumstances were the same across both games (they weren't, which is why I announced that I would be slightly less active at the start of the game).
There is nothing here FMPOV. I'm not a fan of it.
This D2 feels like it's imploding the same way it did in G10. I wish I knew how to prevent it this time.
A read on Rhand in general would also be pretty helpful at this stage -- I don't think you've outed one recently here.
Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this idea has at least some stock and can't be easily defended. I didn't even explicitly agree with Rich's case to begin with, but I'm starting to now that Jack isn't actually defending it, and is instead accusing me of sheeping it.
Rich moving up in my headspace.
Rich's prior pushes were bad, I agree with that wholeheartedly. This most recent case is the complete opposite of what he's been doing all game.
Real shocker coming from me but I like Rich's Jack/Rhand post. Feels like the first time he's actually building a proper case instead of miring the thread in questionable logic.
Can we PLEASE stop using out-of-Mafia context to $%#!ing read people
I really do not want to play this game if we're gonna keep going back to it
@Jackofhearts2005 - It pretty much has to do entirely with how the thread was being handled by those four players at the time. Michelle and Rich are the most disconnected from one another in this case, therefore I believe they would be unaligned in every world.
I had already explained Shep/Relm to Michelle a few pages before you asked about it. I'd call Shep/Michelle a really unlikely combination here, as neither of them would really be pushing thread control here, rather just contributing to it.
@Dyslexicon - I did not comment on that right away as I didn't want to come off as clueless, but since you're asking directly about it, I'll answer honestly. Typically my play becomes a lot more distinguished and active the more I have a good track to ride on going into a game, and Qualifiers solidified that pretty damn early with the outline of the JoAT strat to piggy back off of. I'm not playing the same as in my Qualifier because I don't really have that outline that I can just direct my play with, so I'm a lot more off the cuff here.
In terms of who I think we should yeet, I think Rich still yields the best results for us at this stage, as I think his slot can help us try to solve several others here.
Okay bed time for me now
@ Me with any questions while I’m asleep and I’ll try to answer when I get up, though I will be packing my $%#! up to head back to my campus tomorrow so I’ll be *slightly* less available, but nothing as egregious as Day 1.
I want to reiterate too that I'm not putting too much stock in the idea just yet, just throwing it out there as an idea to see if people possibly see any stock in it themselves.
For those two specifically, though, I'd argue coordination in melding the arguments together to some extent, heightening thread control. I say this because I've observed Relm come in and out of the Rich argument in between arguing with you, which is NAI in a vacuum, but the context of two adjacent arguments happening at the same time makes it a bit questionable in my eyes.
That being said, I still don't really think it would be Sheppard here, as I think the reasoning I laid out with myc earlier outweighs this current situation, and Sheppard doesn't have nearly as much of a hand in thread control in this world. I wouldn't expect Relm to be pulling all the weight if they were both Wolves here.
Either Rich is Wolf and his teammates are outside of Jack/Sheppard/Michelle/Relm, or he is Town and we have two Wolves in that same grouping.
I'm feeling tinfoily Tonight. I'd like thoughts outside of these five to see if it could potentially track at all, as I've been watching these two fights unfold for a while and can't shake the feeling that we're looking at Wolf thread control to some extent here. I only suggest this because I've seen several very similar situations like this play out in the past, and it's always led to that kind of world.
Or maybe I'm just a victim of perspective, and catching the game in a time where just the right people are online to just argue in circles with each other.
Relm doing the same thing Rich was Day 1 asking for information in exchange for information.
I still do not like that concept in the slightest.
Prediction from that is that I'm probably still going to like your slot moving forward.
Alright, that's probably enough for my questions to you for the time being.
Anything you'd like to get into my head about here, while I'm still awake?
Do you think this factional structure you've talked about has changed at all since EoD1?
Personally I wasn't too subscribed to the idea of "factions" in the first place, but I could see where the idea came from. I'm wondering if your perceptions have changed at all there.
As a follow-up to that, try to consider a world where RP/MR is V/W, W/V, V/V. How does your analysis of MR here change to account for that?
Mind you, I saw no interaction between Barney and myc in relation to their reads on me -- as they were the only two people really against me at the time (I think myc less so than Barney? I honestly didn't pay much attention because there just wasn't much there beyond the reads themselves), the lack of interactions on that front lead me to believe they're just independent of one another.
Everything seems far too independent in a game where both sides -- especially the Wolves -- practically require teamwork to win for their faction. This unadulterated independence makes me very confident in a Town-read.
Yeah, it might just be best to let it go for now, since I imagine there's a big enough difference in perspective that we won't be able to get on the same page there for the time being.