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    Completed Embarrassed :v

    Embarrassed :v
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    Completed Sorry but I didn't claim in my first Qualifier...

    Quote Originally Posted by Capage (#6042)
    So, Rosen not claiming in her first post is a wolf tell.

    GG town, these weren't easy wolves to catch!

    I only read few pages and townread Relm for postcount and passion.
    Sorry but I didn't claim in my first Qualifier post either!
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    Completed No wolves allowed in the 7 :wowee:

    No wolves allowed in the 7
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    Completed Rich you were a policy vote :v

    Rich you were a policy vote :v
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    Completed I lol'd at this when you first posted it

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#5965)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#2795)
    there's a bizzaro world where relm, myself, michelle and rich are all town and the last 3 pages look really silly
    ..........
    I lol'd at this when you first posted it
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    Completed HumanDawn or Daniel you'll want to grab a fresh...

    @HumanDawn or @Daniel you'll want to grab a fresh invite link for the wolf Discord, the one in forum chat is dead
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    Completed Where am i wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#5932)
    G $%#!ING G Townie!!! Y'all pulled it out!

    Well played wolves, this town was hard to wolf against. Y'all did well!

    @Michelle, @Relm, @cayvie I'm sorry for doubting you.

    From my SOD2 wall that never made it:

    likely town:
    myc
    radish
    sheppard

    lean town:
    relm
    jack
    rich

    null:
    michelle

    lean wolf:
    dizzy
    Rhand

    likely wolf:
    HD
    barney
    Daniel

    I feel confident I would have gotten there to town on you Relm and Michelle!

    POE MotherFuckingSOLID too.
    Where am i wtf
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    Completed If there was anything I would change about this...

    If there was anything I would change about this game I would have told myself to keep caring about the game by the midway point of Day 1. I really wanted to just replace out at that point and probably should have, but my lack of motivation to play in this environment murdered the $%#! out of my Day 2 lol
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    Completed Rhand was never wolf here But I guess that...

    Rhand was never wolf here

    But I guess that looks good for that wolf!rhand world was actually taken seriously

    seriously $%#! this game though
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    Completed What a boring, toxic $%#!ing game smh

    What a boring, toxic $%#!ing game

    smh
  11. Completed Rich Parente

    ##Vote Rich Parente
  12. Completed Wait $%#! it was tied

    Wait $%#! it was tied
  13. Completed Hi I am here I don’t have time to catch up...

    Hi I am here

    I don’t have time to catch up right now but I will vote self-pres as much as I don’t like it. I feel I have things to answer for that I won’t get the chance to do if I die here.

    ##Vote Rhand
  14. Completed I’m so sorry guys I don’t think I’ll be able...

    I’m so sorry guys

    I don’t think I’ll be able to really do anything here, getting caught up in move-in procedures and unlikely to get out any time soon.

    I’ll try to read and post if I can, but I’m gonna be cutting it really close if at all.
  15. Completed Also I think Michelle’s vote is kind of poor...

    Also I think Michelle’s vote is kind of poor here, only because it only really considers my recent frustration in the thread, and not everything else.
  16. Completed Frankly I feel Relm falls into the same category...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#3161)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3151)
    Pulling a TMI-read on a post that clearly doesn't mean what he thinks it does, and bringing up the G10 argument that I already clarified to Dizzy, and also implying that my IRL circumstances were the same across both games (they weren't, which is why I announced that I would be slightly less active at the start of the game).

    There is nothing here FMPOV. I'm not a fan of it.
    I dragged Shep along. How do you feel about Michelle voting you?

    Also I have a secret for you but don’t tell anybody.

    I was looking at my own iso because out of all the people who think I am funny, I am the one who thinks I am the funniest and I found a post from D1 where Relm welcomes you to the towncore and it looks like buddying. You can find it in my iso. There’s a Wolverine gif. Talk to me about Relm. You’ve talked a lot around Relm and I entirely sympathize but I want you to take a hard stand here and make me believe you. Or fail to. This is a test.
    Frankly I feel Relm falls into the same category that Michelle places my frustration post in: no intent to solve the game. Not much has changed since Day 1 in their play, outside of dropping the ISO spam because people swerve suspicious of it. Wolfish.
  17. Completed Pulling a TMI-read on a post that clearly doesn't...

    Pulling a TMI-read on a post that clearly doesn't mean what he thinks it does, and bringing up the G10 argument that I already clarified to Dizzy, and also implying that my IRL circumstances were the same across both games (they weren't, which is why I announced that I would be slightly less active at the start of the game).

    There is nothing here FMPOV. I'm not a fan of it.
  18. Completed What makes you assume I thought you could have in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#3118)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3115)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#3111)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3101)
    Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this idea has at least some stock and can't be easily defended. I didn't even explicitly agree with Rich's case to begin with, but I'm starting to now that Jack isn't actually defending it, and is instead accusing me of sheeping it.

    Rich moving up in my headspace.
    If you want to talk about toxic dismissal, read Rich's posts re: my theory last night.
    This, I think puts Jack and Rich on about equal footing in my reads now. However, at this point, I think only one of them can be Wolf now. I don't think this happens twice in separate Wolf plays, ever.
    Jesus Christ on a pogo stick you though maybe me and Rich came up with this stuff together?
    What makes you assume I thought you could have in the first place?
  19. Completed It doesn't, I'm just venting my frustrations...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#3117)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3109)
    Sigh

    This D2 feels like it's imploding the same way it did in G10. I wish I knew how to prevent it this time.
    How can this sentence help this game?
    It doesn't, I'm just venting my frustrations because I can't answer myself here
  20. Completed Though admittedly I think Rich has a better...

    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3115)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#3111)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3101)
    Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this idea has at least some stock and can't be easily defended. I didn't even explicitly agree with Rich's case to begin with, but I'm starting to now that Jack isn't actually defending it, and is instead accusing me of sheeping it.

    Rich moving up in my headspace.
    If you want to talk about toxic dismissal, read Rich's posts re: my theory last night.
    This, I think puts Jack and Rich on about equal footing in my reads now. However, at this point, I think only one of them can be Wolf now. I don't think this happens twice in separate Wolf plays, ever.
    Though admittedly I think Rich has a better approach to dismissing that case, as weird as that sounds. Seemed a lot more like a "please look at my perspective here, this will show how you are incorrect" rather than the "lol fuk u" feeling I'm getting from Jack here.
  21. Completed This, I think puts Jack and Rich on about equal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#3111)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3101)
    Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this idea has at least some stock and can't be easily defended. I didn't even explicitly agree with Rich's case to begin with, but I'm starting to now that Jack isn't actually defending it, and is instead accusing me of sheeping it.

    Rich moving up in my headspace.
    If you want to talk about toxic dismissal, read Rich's posts re: my theory last night.
    This, I think puts Jack and Rich on about equal footing in my reads now. However, at this point, I think only one of them can be Wolf now. I don't think this happens twice in separate Wolf plays, ever.
  22. Completed Sigh This D2 feels like it's imploding the...

    Sigh

    This D2 feels like it's imploding the same way it did in G10. I wish I knew how to prevent it this time.
  23. Completed Rhand - I also want you to weigh in on this,...

    @Rhand - I also want you to weigh in on this, since this is based around your posts. What's going on in your head regarding Jack? What changed?
  24. Completed A read on Rhand in general would also be pretty...

    A read on Rhand in general would also be pretty helpful at this stage -- I don't think you've outed one recently here.
  25. Completed Tell me why you aren't Wolf with Rhand. Give me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#3102)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3101)
    Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this idea has at least some stock and can't be easily defended. I didn't even explicitly agree with Rich's case to begin with, but I'm starting to now that Jack isn't actually defending it, and is instead accusing me of sheeping it.

    Rich moving up in my headspace.
    What am I supposed to defend? It’s Rhand’s progression.
    Tell me why you aren't Wolf with Rhand. Give me something that isn't just "well I know my alignment so..." That tells me nothing.
  26. Completed Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this...

    Really toxic dismissal of this case tells me this idea has at least some stock and can't be easily defended. I didn't even explicitly agree with Rich's case to begin with, but I'm starting to now that Jack isn't actually defending it, and is instead accusing me of sheeping it.

    Rich moving up in my headspace.
  27. Completed How you read that post as nonsense is beyond me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#3088)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#3086)
    Real shocker coming from me but I like Rich's Jack/Rhand post. Feels like the first time he's actually building a proper case instead of miring the thread in questionable logic.
    How is Rich trending upwards and you’re trending downwards while sheeping Rich’s nonsense?
    How you read that post as nonsense is beyond me at this point. I think you're starting to get too deep in your "I know my alignment so anyone who cases me is making a bad case" perspective here.

    Rich's prior pushes were bad, I agree with that wholeheartedly. This most recent case is the complete opposite of what he's been doing all game.
  28. Completed Real shocker coming from me but I like Rich's...

    Real shocker coming from me but I like Rich's Jack/Rhand post. Feels like the first time he's actually building a proper case instead of miring the thread in questionable logic.
  29. Completed Can we PLEASE stop using out-of-Mafia context to...

    Can we PLEASE stop using out-of-Mafia context to $%#!ing read people

    I really do not want to play this game if we're gonna keep going back to it
  30. Completed Jackofhearts2005

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#3060)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanDawn (#3039)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#3035)
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanDawn (#3021)
    If you're not convinced yourself, then I don't know if I'm in the best position myself to give you anything convincing, but I might find something later. Would help if you read it too .

    I don't think you're going to be chopped today, and we're over half the phase now. Energy spent on one target, even if you think that target might be Mafia, is not energy well spent. It would probably be better to case somebody else.
    @HumanDawn

    I mean convince me of anything. Convince me Relm or someone else you suspect is a wolf. Convince me you aren’t teamed with Rich. Convince me of anything without massive walls of links.
    I'm not convinced Relm is a wolf, but we can start by you telling me why you think Relm might more likely to be Town than Mafia, and if you had any issues with my reasoning for her vote. What do you think of her EoD?

    I'm not teamed with Rich because him accusing me of lying about my sickness is not a Mafia distancing strategy I would ever agree to.

    Still catching up right now but this should never be an issue again except for going outside for some groceries and some social meetings.
    Didn’t say she was. I don’t remember the reasoning for your vote today. 🤷🏻♂️ I remember you deciding you needed to vote Cayvie for like consistency or something, which I wasn’t a fan of.

    Maybe. Some people don’t like that stuff. Counterpoint: Rich accusing you of spreading Covid is way less toxic if he knows you don’t mean it. You didn’t get very offended. Generally, Rich has spent a lot of time saying you’re an optimal chop or that you’re a baddie in real life while inviting people to defend you and yelling at anyone who does and calling you teamed with me until now, when most people don’t suspect me at which point he started to townread you. That all sounds a lot like distancing to me.
    ##Vote Jackofhearts2005
  31. Completed As if I didn't already scumread him beforehand :v

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel (#2997)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2995)
    In terms of who I think we should yeet, I think Rich still yields the best results for us at this stage, as I think his slot can help us try to solve several others here.
    is this an info yeet
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Radishes (#2998)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2995)
    In terms of who I think we should yeet, I think Rich still yields the best results for us at this stage, as I think his slot can help us try to solve several others here.
    ...


    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2395)
    I will personally destroy anyone who tries to infoyeet unironically.
    As if I didn't already scumread him beforehand :v
  32. Completed Jackofhearts2005 - It pretty much has to do...

    @Jackofhearts2005 - It pretty much has to do entirely with how the thread was being handled by those four players at the time. Michelle and Rich are the most disconnected from one another in this case, therefore I believe they would be unaligned in every world.

    I had already explained Shep/Relm to Michelle a few pages before you asked about it. I'd call Shep/Michelle a really unlikely combination here, as neither of them would really be pushing thread control here, rather just contributing to it.

    @Dyslexicon - I did not comment on that right away as I didn't want to come off as clueless, but since you're asking directly about it, I'll answer honestly. Typically my play becomes a lot more distinguished and active the more I have a good track to ride on going into a game, and Qualifiers solidified that pretty damn early with the outline of the JoAT strat to piggy back off of. I'm not playing the same as in my Qualifier because I don't really have that outline that I can just direct my play with, so I'm a lot more off the cuff here.

    In terms of who I think we should yeet, I think Rich still yields the best results for us at this stage, as I think his slot can help us try to solve several others here.
  33. Completed Okay bed time for me now @ Me with any...

    Okay bed time for me now

    @ Me with any questions while I’m asleep and I’ll try to answer when I get up, though I will be packing my $%#! up to head back to my campus tomorrow so I’ll be *slightly* less available, but nothing as egregious as Day 1.
  34. Completed I wholeheartedly agree, which is why I'm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Radishes (#2830)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2823)
    I want to reiterate too that I'm not putting too much stock in the idea just yet, just throwing it out there as an idea to see if people possibly see any stock in it themselves.
    (This is in regards to the 'townies arguing' thing, right?)


    I'd need to re-read (only sort of first-draft-skimmed a lot of the arguments once I realised they were just arguments) but I think:
    (a) people arguing over minor things is usually t/t
    (b) people throw out 'they're probably just t/t' too often

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    I wholeheartedly agree, which is why I'm suggesting it isn't V/V here, especially in the case of there being adjacent arguments.
  35. Completed I want to reiterate too that I'm not putting too...

    I want to reiterate too that I'm not putting too much stock in the idea just yet, just throwing it out there as an idea to see if people possibly see any stock in it themselves.
  36. Completed Not necessarily those two specifically -- though...

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle (#2818)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2814)
    Hot take

    Either Rich is Wolf and his teammates are outside of Jack/Sheppard/Michelle/Relm, or he is Town and we have two Wolves in that same grouping.

    I'm feeling tinfoily Tonight. I'd like thoughts outside of these five to see if it could potentially track at all, as I've been watching these two fights unfold for a while and can't shake the feeling that we're looking at Wolf thread control to some extent here. I only suggest this because I've seen several very similar situations like this play out in the past, and it's always led to that kind of world.

    Or maybe I'm just a victim of perspective, and catching the game in a time where just the right people are online to just argue in circles with each other.
    The bolded, that would make Relm and Shepard wolves in your oppinion, can you expand your tinfoils?
    Not necessarily those two specifically -- though I think there would be a higher chance of one being in within each argument if I were to believe in the tinfoil. At that point probably one of Jack/Sheppard, and one of Relm/You.

    For those two specifically, though, I'd argue coordination in melding the arguments together to some extent, heightening thread control. I say this because I've observed Relm come in and out of the Rich argument in between arguing with you, which is NAI in a vacuum, but the context of two adjacent arguments happening at the same time makes it a bit questionable in my eyes.

    That being said, I still don't really think it would be Sheppard here, as I think the reasoning I laid out with myc earlier outweighs this current situation, and Sheppard doesn't have nearly as much of a hand in thread control in this world. I wouldn't expect Relm to be pulling all the weight if they were both Wolves here.
  37. Completed Hot take Either Rich is Wolf and his teammates...

    Hot take

    Either Rich is Wolf and his teammates are outside of Jack/Sheppard/Michelle/Relm, or he is Town and we have two Wolves in that same grouping.

    I'm feeling tinfoily Tonight. I'd like thoughts outside of these five to see if it could potentially track at all, as I've been watching these two fights unfold for a while and can't shake the feeling that we're looking at Wolf thread control to some extent here. I only suggest this because I've seen several very similar situations like this play out in the past, and it's always led to that kind of world.

    Or maybe I'm just a victim of perspective, and catching the game in a time where just the right people are online to just argue in circles with each other.
  38. Completed Michelle important question in light of what's...

    @Michelle important question in light of what's been happening for the past few pages, give me your read on Rich and a brief explanation for it, if you can.
  39. Completed Relm doing the same thing Rich was Day 1 asking...

    Relm doing the same thing Rich was Day 1 asking for information in exchange for information.

    I still do not like that concept in the slightest.
  40. Completed I liked all of them based on initial reaction...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#2697)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2651)
    Alright, that's probably enough for my questions to you for the time being.

    Anything you'd like to get into my head about here, while I'm still awake?
    Any gut reactions to my answers?
    I liked all of them based on initial reaction alone. At some point I'll look to see if what you're saying aligns with what you're doing, and at that point I'll have a much more thought out opinion for you.

    Prediction from that is that I'm probably still going to like your slot moving forward.
  41. Completed Alright, that's probably enough for my questions...

    Alright, that's probably enough for my questions to you for the time being.

    Anything you'd like to get into my head about here, while I'm still awake?
  42. Completed Do you think this factional structure you've...

    Do you think this factional structure you've talked about has changed at all since EoD1?

    Personally I wasn't too subscribed to the idea of "factions" in the first place, but I could see where the idea came from. I'm wondering if your perceptions have changed at all there.
  43. Completed Not having a math wall yet makes me sad. I'm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackofhearts2005 (#2640)
    This game needs less isos and more gifs and charts.
    Not having a math wall yet makes me sad. I'm tempted to copy/paste my JoAT post from Qualifiers just so I can look at some M A T H.
  44. Completed Do you think your case on the RP/MR world could...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#2638)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2628)
    Sure, I love hearing about people's stories. I'd like to know about some of your other reads -- if not MR and Rich, then who would you be looking into the most Today? Any particular reason for your choice here?
    Yeah, I kind of partition myself into flowcharty style reads so please let me know if this is confusing.

    Right now I have a few categories, the Rich/MR is the one I'm most vested in.

    I also see some Relm stuff happening, but so does everyone to almost no defense/distraction (which itself is a tell) but also nobody seems serious about pushing that so who knows.

    Jack, Barney, Myc are all in this weird slightly below null place right now. Myc's play kind of aligns with MR/PR but on a deeper level it doesn't work out so well. Barney is just a very low post # and hard to read (my IRL instincts say VOTE but I'm fighting them very much).

    Jack I thought was scum-like yesterday but my stronger reads are in conflict with them, plus I think its largely a playstyle thing for him.

    Rhand is also on the maybe list, same range as Relm. You're also kind of in this category with Rhand, where you were both heavily townread early D1. Then some not so + reads from others, and then a long period of silence.
    Do you think your case on the RP/MR world could be another case of someone simply committing to their reads, like what I brought up in cayvie's post about HK/Rich?

    As a follow-up to that, try to consider a world where RP/MR is V/W, W/V, V/V. How does your analysis of MR here change to account for that?
  45. Completed Mind you, I saw no interaction between Barney and...

    Mind you, I saw no interaction between Barney and myc in relation to their reads on me -- as they were the only two people really against me at the time (I think myc less so than Barney? I honestly didn't pay much attention because there just wasn't much there beyond the reads themselves), the lack of interactions on that front lead me to believe they're just independent of one another.
  46. Completed I think it is in this situation -- I think if...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2621)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2514)
    I think it's possible, but incredibly unlikely. His explanation for the vote is that you and Radishes were on me before he placed his vote, and he believed they would potentially come back. I think Scum!Barney would try to push the wagon more here, trying to bring you guys back to have a third full wagon be set into motion. Instead, he just...kind of disappeared. I think that's a Town move in most worlds.
    Why?
    Not pushing your preferred yeet is more town, why?
    I think it is in this situation -- I think if Barney were scum and wanted me gone that early, there would have been significantly more effort put into actually doing that, whether that be from him or from his teammates. Barney just...existing, rather than actively trying to push a Wolf agenda in that read, leads me to the conclusion that he is just Town with an incorrect read.

    Everything seems far too independent in a game where both sides -- especially the Wolves -- practically require teamwork to win for their faction. This unadulterated independence makes me very confident in a Town-read.
  47. Completed Sure, I love hearing about people's stories. I'd...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppard (#2615)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2503)
    Quote Originally Posted by myc (#2501)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2495)
    I think Rhand's vote flipping toward EoD1 showed a willingness to push things in a direction he thinks will be truly beneficial to Town, but gets brought under my Barney read due to being on cayvie at EoD, which I believed to be the worse choice of the two.
    What is distinctive about Rhand's vote flipping at EOD1 compared to other players?
    I think the shift from HD to Rich, to cayvie afterward indicated a desire to garner reads on the basis of wagon formations for their time, rather than just switch so that somebody gets chopped (2081 shows an early indication of this IMO).

    MR and Sheppard, in particular, switched votes the most at EoD IIRC (correct me if I'm wrong, please), and lead me to like them more due to a sort of control that makes it more difficult for Wolves to get through EoD in a more organic fashion. I don't think Wolves do what those two do, as it has plenty of potentials to harm their partners because of it (unless they're W/W and that much was coordinated but I don't want to tinfoil that).
    Rosen, I feel like we haven't interacted much all thread.

    We should change that
    Sure, I love hearing about people's stories. I'd like to know about some of your other reads -- if not MR and Rich, then who would you be looking into the most Today? Any particular reason for your choice here?
  48. Completed Yeah, it might just be best to let it go for now,...

    Yeah, it might just be best to let it go for now, since I imagine there's a big enough difference in perspective that we won't be able to get on the same page there for the time being.
  49. Completed EBWOP: underlined, three words lol

    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2533)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2529)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2527)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2521)
    What reevaluation? What is it supposed to mean?

    You've been pretty consistently town read throughout the game. A wagon on you doesn't take off, which is not surprising at all imo. So what interest do you take in this?
    Reevaluation, pending further flips.

    I agree that it's unsurprising that my own wagon didn't really take off; I never really felt in danger of being the Day 1 yeet, and only would have been if I didn't already think MR was going for reactions with his swap over to me. I think the complete lack of reactions from players outside of myc and Barney will be important at some point down the line, but I also think we need more flips before we can really make any accurate conclusions around that.

    I have an inkling on Daniel based on MR's swap in that direction, but it mostly revolves around his apparent lack of a read toward me on Day 1. Daniel's attitude toward me on Day 1 felt a lot like some kind of controlled complacency, questioning why I was being so Town-Read early, but not actually committing to any kind of read himself.

    Beyond that, I've really got nothing there, but I think there's a possibility that something is there that will be uncovered down the line. I simply want to hold onto the idea, rather than just forgetting about it, since I believe it to be important.
    Alright, I'm just going to say what's on my mind regarding this. I can only see it become important if you're scum. I fail to see how it's very interesting or telling if you're town. That's why I'm confused.
    I don't think it has anything to do with me or my slot. I think it has everything to do with everyone else.
    EBWOP: underlined, three words lol
  50. Completed I don't think it has anything to do with me. I...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2529)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2527)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyslexicon (#2521)
    Quote Originally Posted by -Rosen (#2518)
    I reckon this will be a topic of reevaluation further down the line, should we get to that point. I just don't think there's enough of the subsequent information to glean anything from it right now.
    What reevaluation? What is it supposed to mean?

    You've been pretty consistently town read throughout the game. A wagon on you doesn't take off, which is not surprising at all imo. So what interest do you take in this?
    Reevaluation, pending further flips.

    I agree that it's unsurprising that my own wagon didn't really take off; I never really felt in danger of being the Day 1 yeet, and only would have been if I didn't already think MR was going for reactions with his swap over to me. I think the complete lack of reactions from players outside of myc and Barney will be important at some point down the line, but I also think we need more flips before we can really make any accurate conclusions around that.

    I have an inkling on Daniel based on MR's swap in that direction, but it mostly revolves around his apparent lack of a read toward me on Day 1. Daniel's attitude toward me on Day 1 felt a lot like some kind of controlled complacency, questioning why I was being so Town-Read early, but not actually committing to any kind of read himself.

    Beyond that, I've really got nothing there, but I think there's a possibility that something is there that will be uncovered down the line. I simply want to hold onto the idea, rather than just forgetting about it, since I believe it to be important.
    Alright, I'm just going to say what's on my mind regarding this. I can only see it become important if you're scum. I fail to see how it's very interesting or telling if you're town. That's why I'm confused.
    I don't think it has anything to do with me. I think it has everything to do with everyone else.
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Death Miller

The Death Miller will be viewed as mafia if investigated by a cop and will also flip as such upon death, despite being town and counting for town's numbers.