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    Completed ##DysonIsALiar :wub:

    ##DysonIsALiar

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    Completed I will not be here EOD at 9 am so whatever I end...

    I will not be here EOD at 9 am so whatever I end up posting here in this time period will be my last and you won't hear from me until after 5 pm tomorrow EST. Sorry about this.
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    Completed Again tinfoil ideas. You are sounding like it is...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1244)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1241)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1239)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1226)
    So you want me to do reads right now when I told you I am bad at it and operating on the claims? I am a person that tries to solve the game and not reliant on feelings. I could say this though if you really want my thought on you and inawordyes; I feel that you guys are just mafia trying to squash my claims and working with each other. Is that a valid read enough?

    And this is not a roleless game apparently. If this is mountainous, I will deal with it. but the best way to solve this game is to go with the claims and test it. don't you agree?
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1226)
    So you want me to do reads right now when I told you I am bad at it and operating on the claims?
    Yes, this is exactly what I want you to do.
    Herein lies the problem. The only claim that, at face value, could easily be from a wolf is suicide bomber. Everyone else has a claim that could legit at face value be town.

    Clearly that means someone is lying because I town read IAWY and I town read them not because of the claim but despite the claim.

    So yeah, I'm not looking for claims analysis and mechanical work, I'm looking for what do you think about players.

    I don't agree that the best way to solve this game is via the claims. If IAWY is telling the truth and he is town and blows up dyson and dyson is a wolf where do you go next? Me? Iron? Zeus?

    You have to be thinking something about these players independent of their claims and claimed actions.
    But you guys are doing the same thing. You are solving me (and blowing me up) based on my claim and the actions that I did. So what is good for you is not good for me?
    I never said I wasn't hypocritical.

    I've also done a metric crapload of work that isn't claims and mechanics related. But your wolf read on me is entirely dependent on the claim I've made. I've dumped 250 posts into this thread at the time of this post and I'd say between 1/4 and 1/3 are claims related. The rest are trying to solve people based on what they're doing, how they're voting, and what they're saying.
    Again tinfoil ideas. You are sounding like it is definitive on my end.
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    Completed I saw a post where it says iron is town so I just...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1242)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1233)
    dyson is not even touching the thread after his lying is exposed. Major sus

    TGT claims JOAT, a loaded role with a doctor in it. In my mind, there should be at least one healing role.

    Zeus is uncooperative as town or maybe in his mind he is not disclosing because he want mafia not to know his role. i think it is okay but given the nature of the game right now where everybody is claiming, I don't see the reason why he shouldn't? It is becoming antitown at this point.

    Irondward claims vanilla...umm..im not even gonna comment on it. in this set up? okay.
    iron didn't claim vanilla, he claimed treestump that gets to post 1 day after he dies.

    Zeus is the only one who's claim is completely unknown and I'm fine with that

    Guillo doesn't "add one healing role" just to have "one healing role"
    I saw a post where it says iron is town so I just copy paste it on my sheet. and went with it.

    Not where I play, it will be frowned upon to not have at least one healing role in a game with lots of PRs
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    Completed But you guys are doing the same thing. You are...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1239)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1226)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1222)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1220)
    I only operate based on mechanics and what I think is factual. I know that I did an action. Dyson lied about it and I jailkeep potential Mafia. In this game, I am inclined to believe that there is at least one healing action. If TGT claimed he is, then I will believe he is town. If Zeus claimed he is a healing role, then one of them is lying, and I will incline to believe TGT is definitely a liar as his role is loaded. But I have to hear from Zeus and see what his role is and if not, then I want to see action.

    Now suicide bomber? that is a role I am not familiar with and I did research on it and it says it could be mafia aligned so if you are blowing me up based on a gut feeling i have and could potentially have saved town inmy mind, then It's a consequence I need to face.
    so what if this were a completely role-less game? would you be completely lost then and not know what to do?

    I want you to talk about how you feel about other players and their alignments, not what mechanics you think make someone town or wolf.
    So you want me to do reads right now when I told you I am bad at it and operating on the claims? I am a person that tries to solve the game and not reliant on feelings. I could say this though if you really want my thought on you and inawordyes; I feel that you guys are just mafia trying to squash my claims and working with each other. Is that a valid read enough?

    And this is not a roleless game apparently. If this is mountainous, I will deal with it. but the best way to solve this game is to go with the claims and test it. don't you agree?
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1226)
    So you want me to do reads right now when I told you I am bad at it and operating on the claims?
    Yes, this is exactly what I want you to do.
    Herein lies the problem. The only claim that, at face value, could easily be from a wolf is suicide bomber. Everyone else has a claim that could legit at face value be town.

    Clearly that means someone is lying because I town read IAWY and I town read them not because of the claim but despite the claim.

    So yeah, I'm not looking for claims analysis and mechanical work, I'm looking for what do you think about players.

    I don't agree that the best way to solve this game is via the claims. If IAWY is telling the truth and he is town and blows up dyson and dyson is a wolf where do you go next? Me? Iron? Zeus?

    You have to be thinking something about these players independent of their claims and claimed actions.
    But you guys are doing the same thing. You are solving me (and blowing me up) based on my claim and the actions that I did. So what is good for you is not good for me?
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    Completed Dyson>>>>>> Inawordyes>> Hollowkat >>>TGT >>>...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1235)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1233)
    dyson is not even touching the thread after his lying is exposed. Major sus

    TGT claims JOAT, a loaded role with a doctor in it. In my mind, there should be at least one healing role.

    Zeus is uncooperative as town or maybe in his mind he is not disclosing because he want mafia not to know his role. i think it is okay but given the nature of the game right now where everybody is claiming, I don't see the reason why he shouldn't? It is becoming antitown at this point.

    Irondward claims vanilla...umm..im not even gonna comment on it. in this set up? okay.
    Okay, thank you

    So if you had to rank all 6 of us in order of how townie you think we are, where do we all rank?
    Dyson>>>>>> Inawordyes>> Hollowkat >>>TGT >>> Iron >>>> Zeus
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    Completed I just have all these tinfoil ideas and I really ...

    I just have all these tinfoil ideas and I really hate putting it out there. I always get a blast from these tinfoil reads so I try to solve on what I think might be concrete and based on facts that I gather.
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    Completed my reads really suck im sorry.

    my reads really suck im sorry.
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    Completed dyson is not even touching the thread after his...

    dyson is not even touching the thread after his lying is exposed. Major sus

    TGT claims JOAT, a loaded role with a doctor in it. In my mind, there should be at least one healing role.

    Zeus is uncooperative as town or maybe in his mind he is not disclosing because he want mafia not to know his role. i think it is okay but given the nature of the game right now where everybody is claiming, I don't see the reason why he shouldn't? It is becoming antitown at this point.

    Irondward claims vanilla...umm..im not even gonna comment on it. in this set up? okay.
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    Completed I gave you my first reads You and and inawordyes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1229)
    Bianca, if you’re bad at reads you’re bad at reads, but using that as an excuse not to try is just

    We don’t care if you think they’re bad reads, we just want you to give reads, period. They can be bad, as long as we know where your head is at
    I gave you my first reads You and and inawordyes could be mafia trying to work togethre and active now. Both of your claims are not testable without you guys dying so it is very convenient. So I am sus of that of now , thinking about it.
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    Completed Your role and Inawordyes is reliant on you guys...

    Your role and Inawordyes is reliant on you guys dying. Very very convenient for mafia to say isnt it ? There is no way to test you guys unless you die.
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    Completed not reliant on feelings soley i meant

    not reliant on feelings soley i meant
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    Completed So you want me to do reads right now when I told...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1222)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1220)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1214)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1212)
    He is the only one who claimed Doctor and unless Zeus is the doctor, then I have no reason to not believe him. If Zeus is doctor, then his role is major sus.
    ok, that's mechanics, not reads. I want you to talk about whether you think he's town or not and why would you think that way.

    If we are immediately believing claims then nobody is a wolf, all the claims are "fine"
    But you already said you didn't believe the suicide bomber claim, so why believe the TGT claim?

    I'm trying to get you on the record for making reads here, not talking about mechanics
    I only operate based on mechanics and what I think is factual. I know that I did an action. Dyson lied about it and I jailkeep potential Mafia. In this game, I am inclined to believe that there is at least one healing action. If TGT claimed he is, then I will believe he is town. If Zeus claimed he is a healing role, then one of them is lying, and I will incline to believe TGT is definitely a liar as his role is loaded. But I have to hear from Zeus and see what his role is and if not, then I want to see action.

    Now suicide bomber? that is a role I am not familiar with and I did research on it and it says it could be mafia aligned so if you are blowing me up based on a gut feeling i have and could potentially have saved town inmy mind, then It's a consequence I need to face.
    so what if this were a completely role-less game? would you be completely lost then and not know what to do?

    I want you to talk about how you feel about other players and their alignments, not what mechanics you think make someone town or wolf.
    So you want me to do reads right now when I told you I am bad at it and operating on the claims? I am a person that tries to solve the game and not reliant on feelings. I could say this though if you really want my thought on you and inawordyes; I feel that you guys are just mafia trying to squash my claims and working with each other. Is that a valid read enough?

    And this is not a roleless game apparently. If this is mountainous, I will deal with it. but the best way to solve this game is to go with the claims and test it. don't you agree?
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    Completed I only operate based on mechanics and what I...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1214)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1212)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1208)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1206)
    I just don't know what to say to this because i did my action. I got the night action form and it says Jailkeep: and my role pm says I inherit the role PR of the player. IS there anything I should be aware that this is not the case?
    lets talk more about people who aren't Dyson while you're here. Can you give me thoughts on literally anyone else?
    Preferably TGT would be great
    He is the only one who claimed Doctor and unless Zeus is the doctor, then I have no reason to not believe him. If Zeus is doctor, then his role is major sus.
    ok, that's mechanics, not reads. I want you to talk about whether you think he's town or not and why would you think that way.

    If we are immediately believing claims then nobody is a wolf, all the claims are "fine"
    But you already said you didn't believe the suicide bomber claim, so why believe the TGT claim?

    I'm trying to get you on the record for making reads here, not talking about mechanics
    I only operate based on mechanics and what I think is factual. I know that I did an action. Dyson lied about it and I jailkeep potential Mafia. In this game, I am inclined to believe that there is at least one healing action. If TGT claimed he is, then I will believe he is town. If Zeus claimed he is a healing role, then one of them is lying, and I will incline to believe TGT is definitely a liar as his role is loaded. But I have to hear from Zeus and see what his role is and if not, then I want to see action.

    Now suicide bomber? that is a role I am not familiar with and I did research on it and it says it could be mafia aligned so if you are blowing me up based on a gut feeling i have and could potentially have saved town inmy mind, then It's a consequence I need to face.
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    Completed He is the only one who claimed Doctor and unless...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1208)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1206)
    I just don't know what to say to this because i did my action. I got the night action form and it says Jailkeep: and my role pm says I inherit the role PR of the player. IS there anything I should be aware that this is not the case?
    lets talk more about people who aren't Dyson while you're here. Can you give me thoughts on literally anyone else?
    Preferably TGT would be great
    He is the only one who claimed Doctor and unless Zeus is the doctor, then I have no reason to not believe him. If Zeus is doctor, then his role is major sus.
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    Completed Hopefully it's for the best... I know that Dyson...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1207)
    I will be blowing myself up, it’s just not an easy black-and-white choice here. I also am stalling as much as I can because I don’t want to hit wrong here and it’s hard for me to actively pull that trigger and remove myself because I care so much about solving this game and killing myself feels like such an awful play and that’s a touchy subject for me specifically

    I’m making excuses
    Hopefully it's for the best... I know that Dyson is lying and convinced he is scum. So if it comes down to it, we will see.
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    Completed I just don't know what to say to this because i...

    I just don't know what to say to this because i did my action. I got the night action form and it says Jailkeep: and my role pm says I inherit the role PR of the player. IS there anything I should be aware that this is not the case?
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    Completed That is what is in my role that I cannot...

    That is what is in my role that I cannot paraphrase....so i inherited Dolby's passively.
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    Completed Also, sometimes the Universal Backup is not able...

    Also, sometimes the Universal Backup is not able to choose at all, but instead will inherit the role of the first power role to die (for this variant, the host may decide that the Universal Backup is not even self-aware until they passively inherit a role)
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    Completed I meant that with no hey ...just "hate the game,...

    I meant that with no hey ...just "hate the game, not the player"
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    Completed Hey hate the game , not the player!

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1172)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1170)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1168)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1165)
    No, you’ll deal with them now. That is not a read on any of them, and that is extremely unhelpful to the gamestate for you to withhold your thoughts or else refuse to actually evaluate them because of your tunnel on me and Dyson
    I will make reads but they will be sucky as hell as the others I don't really can't tell. But I have a clear vision of you. and besides arent you supposed to explaining why you have a powerrole that's mafia aligned?
    I'd much rather hear more from you today than IAWY. I think there's enough IAWY in the thread currently but not nearly enough bianca
    ^ also this

    Love me or hate me, I’m present, and present enough that people can easily love me or hate me

    I’ll dip for a little while for that reason, give Bianca some space. But if she doesn’t utilize it, best know I’ll be taking my fair share of the free real estate
    Hey hate the game , not the player!
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    Completed oh okay i get it.. Okay my mind set is this. I...

    oh okay i get it..

    Okay my mind set is this. I saw his claim. I don't trust it. If I don't trust it, you might be lying about your role and you could be mafia. Based on that reasoning, I think he could be possible mafia and I have to jail him to prevent night actions from him.

    Lying about role== wolfy = wolfy== jail from me
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    Completed I will make reads but they will be sucky as hell...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1165)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1161)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1160)
    You do you Bianca

    What’s your read on the game right now? I want your thoughts on everybody considering you’ve evidently been keeping up by your own words earlier
    That you are potential mafia and I have my eyes set on you. but I want Dyson first. The others I will deal with them one by one.
    No, you’ll deal with them now. That is not a read on any of them, and that is extremely unhelpful to the gamestate for you to withhold your thoughts or else refuse to actually evaluate them because of your tunnel on me and Dyson
    I will make reads but they will be sucky as hell as the others I don't really can't tell. But I have a clear vision of you. and besides arent you supposed to explaining why you have a powerrole that's mafia aligned?
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    Completed Can you elaborate more on this? Inawordyes asked...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1164)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1155)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1153)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1150)
    well i jailed you just in case you have a nightkilll because you could be mafia..thats the only reason i jailed you
    I understand that, but this is now the third reasoning that you’ve used to explain why you’ve targeted me in the last 20 minutes. You keep changing your story every time I question it
    well you asked me to elaborate more so i did ...why would you ask me for more and then tell me I change stories? I don't trust your claim. You could be mafia. I jail you.
    because your reasoning does not remain consistent with added details, it's changing each time you're asked about it.
    Can you elaborate more on this? Inawordyes asked the same thing but I dont understand how it is changing. I didn't say i did not trust his claim and now i trust his claim or i do this and now I am doing that. I think what I did made sense? So I don't get it. Can you elaborate on it and I can shed light on your misunderstanding?
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    Completed Would you actually do your powerrole claim? It...

    Would you actually do your powerrole claim? It seems convenient?
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    Completed That you are potential mafia and I have my eyes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1160)
    You do you Bianca

    What’s your read on the game right now? I want your thoughts on everybody considering you’ve evidently been keeping up by your own words earlier
    That you are potential mafia and I have my eyes set on you. but I want Dyson first. The others I will deal with them one by one.
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    Completed im confused because you told me I contradict...

    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1150)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1147)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1138)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1130)
    you didn't spend any words on iawy yesterday so I can't verify whether or not you had a wolf read there, or if you're telling the truth at all.

    I assume you town read everyone else more than iawy then? or what?
    I just got notified during night phase that I got Jailkeeper role and did research on the roles. I even mentioned in one of the threads earlier and asked which ones are mafia aligned or could be mafia aligned or town i dont remember..

    I know Dyson's a liar with my vote though and Iawy , i dont know what to make of his suicide bomb claim other than i dont trust it as it is mafia aligned but Dyson did something more scummy and lied about it and claimed there is no motion on me

    Dyson >>> Iawyr >> everyone else
    Okay, but again, you’re contradicting yourself, because you stated initially that you didn’t believe the claim and that’s why you targeted me, but now you’re targeting me because you did the research on the roles and took away that it is usually a mafia-aligned role?

    You can’t both disbelieve the claim and use the claim as your reason to act on me
    well i jailed you just in case you have a nightkilll because you could be mafia..thats the only reason i jailed you
    im confused because you told me I contradict myself yet i said that I got the powerrole. I looked at the claims and see who I can jail and seems sus. I see the suicide bomber role as mafia-aligned. Raised my suspicion on you and immediately jailed you just in case you have some mafioso nightkills or something. I just want to disable whatever it is that you are doing for the night. Dyson was already out of my radar by then. Then he had to declare his scummy thing and I was forced to call out on him and declared that I jailed you. I wouldnt even bring it up if not for Dyson scummy thing.
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    Completed well you asked me to elaborate more so i did...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1153)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1150)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1147)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1138)
    I just got notified during night phase that I got Jailkeeper role and did research on the roles. I even mentioned in one of the threads earlier and asked which ones are mafia aligned or could be mafia aligned or town i dont remember..

    I know Dyson's a liar with my vote though and Iawy , i dont know what to make of his suicide bomb claim other than i dont trust it as it is mafia aligned but Dyson did something more scummy and lied about it and claimed there is no motion on me

    Dyson >>> Iawyr >> everyone else
    Okay, but again, you’re contradicting yourself, because you stated initially that you didn’t believe the claim and that’s why you targeted me, but now you’re targeting me because you did the research on the roles and took away that it is usually a mafia-aligned role?

    You can’t both disbelieve the claim and use the claim as your reason to act on me
    well i jailed you just in case you have a nightkilll because you could be mafia..thats the only reason i jailed you
    I understand that, but this is now the third reasoning that you’ve used to explain why you’ve targeted me in the last 20 minutes. You keep changing your story every time I question it
    well you asked me to elaborate more so i did ...why would you ask me for more and then tell me I change stories? I don't trust your claim. You could be mafia. I jail you.
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    Completed well i jailed you just in case you have a...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1147)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1138)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1130)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1120)
    I don't trust your claim.
    you didn't spend any words on iawy yesterday so I can't verify whether or not you had a wolf read there, or if you're telling the truth at all.

    I assume you town read everyone else more than iawy then? or what?
    I just got notified during night phase that I got Jailkeeper role and did research on the roles. I even mentioned in one of the threads earlier and asked which ones are mafia aligned or could be mafia aligned or town i dont remember..

    I know Dyson's a liar with my vote though and Iawy , i dont know what to make of his suicide bomb claim other than i dont trust it as it is mafia aligned but Dyson did something more scummy and lied about it and claimed there is no motion on me

    Dyson >>> Iawyr >> everyone else
    Okay, but again, you’re contradicting yourself, because you stated initially that you didn’t believe the claim and that’s why you targeted me, but now you’re targeting me because you did the research on the roles and took away that it is usually a mafia-aligned role?

    You can’t both disbelieve the claim and use the claim as your reason to act on me
    well i jailed you just in case you have a nightkilll because you could be mafia..thats the only reason i jailed you
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    Completed I can't. I inherited Dolby's one shot,...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1139)
    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorZeus (#1134)
    Imma go sleep. You guys figure this out
    I did. we chop dyson. bianca JK iawy. no kill = chop iawy tomorrow. kill = iawy lock clear
    I can't. I inherited Dolby's one shot, non-consecutive thingie..
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    Completed I just got notified during night phase that I got...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#1130)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1120)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1118)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1113)
    ##Vote Dyson sphere

    Dyson's a liar!

    I inherited the first town PR role who died which is Jailkeeper, and I jailed Inawordyes.
    Okay bruh

    I claimed suicide bomber

    A day role

    Aka “Oh, Iawy doesn’t have to be lying about his role at all to just be a mafia suicide bomber”

    Why in the world would you ever JK me?
    I don't trust your claim.
    you didn't spend any words on iawy yesterday so I can't verify whether or not you had a wolf read there, or if you're telling the truth at all.

    I assume you town read everyone else more than iawy then? or what?
    I just got notified during night phase that I got Jailkeeper role and did research on the roles. I even mentioned in one of the threads earlier and asked which ones are mafia aligned or could be mafia aligned or town i dont remember..

    I know Dyson's a liar with my vote though and Iawy , i dont know what to make of his suicide bomb claim other than i dont trust it as it is mafia aligned but Dyson did something more scummy and lied about it and claimed there is no motion on me

    Dyson >>> Iawyr >> everyone else
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    Completed yea but I saw that role is often mafia-aligned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1125)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1121)
    Suicide Bomber

    Role Description:

    The Suicide Bomber may once per game choose a target to suicide bomb during a day phase, killing both the Suicide Bomber and the target.

    Notes:

    This role is often mafia-aligned. It varies whether the Suicide Bomber simply announces the action in the game thread somehow, or whether they need to submit the action to the host. Sometimes, a Suicide Bomber may be allowed to submit their action during night phases as well, though the obvious downside to this is that their target can potentially be protected. The Suicide Bomber, however, should always die as a result of their action, even if they have been targeted for some sort protection during the phase in which they use their action.
    Note: this is a Guillo’s Tactics game, aka the same game where everybody seems to have forgotten that Iron claimed treestump which means everybody has a PR
    yea but I saw that role is often mafia-aligned?
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    Completed I'm debating whether to vote you or Dyson today...

    I'm debating whether to vote you or Dyson today but dyson today because Dyson's a liar.
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    Completed Suicide Bomber Role Description: The...

    Suicide Bomber

    Role Description:

    The Suicide Bomber may once per game choose a target to suicide bomb during a day phase, killing both the Suicide Bomber and the target.

    Notes:

    This role is often mafia-aligned. It varies whether the Suicide Bomber simply announces the action in the game thread somehow, or whether they need to submit the action to the host. Sometimes, a Suicide Bomber may be allowed to submit their action during night phases as well, though the obvious downside to this is that their target can potentially be protected. The Suicide Bomber, however, should always die as a result of their action, even if they have been targeted for some sort protection during the phase in which they use their action.
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    Completed I don't trust your claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#1118)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#1113)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyson sphere (#1054)
    I targeted @biancasbotique and the action failed, which, I suppose, means that there wasn't any motion towards or from her.
    ##Vote Dyson sphere

    Dyson's a liar!

    I inherited the first town PR role who died which is Jailkeeper, and I jailed Inawordyes.
    Okay bruh

    I claimed suicide bomber

    A day role

    Aka “Oh, Iawy doesn’t have to be lying about his role at all to just be a mafia suicide bomber”

    Why in the world would you ever JK me?
    I don't trust your claim.
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    Completed Dyson sphere Dyson's a liar! I inherited...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dyson sphere (#1054)
    I targeted @biancasbotique and the action failed, which, I suppose, means that there wasn't any motion towards or from her.
    ##Vote Dyson sphere

    Dyson's a liar!

    I inherited the first town PR role who died which is Jailkeeper, and I jailed Inawordyes.
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    Completed Hello everyone!! Sorry for not being able to...

    Hello everyone!!

    Sorry for not being able to vote, my intent really was to vote for Irondwarf but I dont think it registered and I was not able to do the proper voting. Looking at various factors yesterday , I think I would have shifted to Dyson based on the fact that he didnt' even bother answering my question and also his post count is as abysmal as me.

    I did do a quick read of the forum as my time is limited today and I will not be able to answer until I don't know when (real life stuff) but I understand the question on me and it seems more focused on my tone and thoughts. I am not new to mafia but I am still trying to figure out stuff and how you do things at MU including these roles, I was not able to ask Guillo about my role further as I need further analysis on how I can use this to help town win. I will not be able to do much the rest of the day today so if a wagon starts forming on me I just leave it to the powers that be as I cannot do anything about it especially if it gets uber busy today.

    As for my non-vote yesterday. I didn't really get a chance to fix my vote to relfect on postcount and EOD really sucks for me (9 am?). They will not work for me and I will end up not changing my votes or not active. So in the future, if I am non participating in EOD activities now you know. I will try to put a vote better next time.

    I think people are examining me based on tone and changes without looking at what I am saying. All I said was my philosophy that if you are PR, please don't divulge it already and only reveal when you are in danger of being yeeted. ALways hold back to the last minute. I said this to everyone and everyone starts claiming and of course, I am gonna claim since the pattern is going to that trend and not disclosing when everyone is is just pure anti-town, not being cooperative. I am not used to it. I think people divulging early their claims is just game throwing in a sense. You might as well give mafia the win if everyone starts disclosing. and it made me even more confused with all these claims. Some of you are are probably lying about your claims and your role is mafia aligned. I don't know.
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    Completed I think so. I mean am I allowed to say my full...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenTyranno (#663)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#661)
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#657)
    in order:
    tracker
    motion detector
    jailkeeper
    oracle
    joat (doc/vig/parity cop)

    anyone else want to claim something just bat$%#! insane? deathmillergodfathercop?
    Nothing exciting to claim for me unfortunately..Just a regular vanilla townie that can be backup?
    Wdym? Like a Universal Backup?

    I think so. I mean am I allowed to say my full role or just gist of it?
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    Completed that makes sense thanks HK

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#662)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#659)
    At this point, Laurentus might be right, this is a madness game type where everybody could be a PR. So based on the claims that came out , which roles could be either mafia/town and which ones are AI?
    the only one that is called out as "typically town aligned" is oracle. Everything else can be both alignments.
    Additionally, oracle loses the majority of it's functionality when given to a mafia player as there's no point in it existing for a mafia aligned player
    that makes sense thanks HK
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    Completed Nothing exciting to claim for me...

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#657)
    in order:
    tracker
    motion detector
    jailkeeper
    oracle
    joat (doc/vig/parity cop)

    anyone else want to claim something just bat$%#! insane? deathmillergodfathercop?
    Nothing exciting to claim for me unfortunately..Just a regular vanilla townie that can be backup?
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    Completed At this point, Laurentus might be right, this is...

    At this point, Laurentus might be right, this is a madness game type where everybody could be a PR. So based on the claims that came out , which roles could be either mafia/town and which ones are AI?
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    Completed crazy day 1

    crazy day 1
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    Completed whaa? dyson claimed too? where ? what

    Quote Originally Posted by hollowkatt (#581)
    I mean we can all do claims, that'll be fun
    laurentus - tracker
    dolby - jk
    dyson sphere - motion detector

    motion + track in the same set, when there's a joat with likely a track/watch/motion as well seems incredibly unlikely and of the claims I believe laurentus the most.
    whaa? dyson claimed too? where ? what
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    Completed No please . You are not even in danger of being...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dolby (#571)
    From thread reactions I'm thinking it may be necessary for me to claim, particularly given how bad EoD is for me

    Should I?
    No please . You are not even in danger of being yeeted yet..tsk tsk ... By the pace of the claims, everybody will be outed day 1
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    Completed I really didn't see it. As far I know, when you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#461)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#458)
    and I am also trying to understand this optimal path. That means you are now a target for mafia and we might lose a Pr role today and what good would that be?
    No, no, I was already a target. That's the point. I PR-slipped, but would have been okay to try and play on, until Dyson pointed the PR-slip out.
    I really didn't see it. As far I know, when you made that statement, we are still in day 1 and all that comes with it, including random thoughts random memes etc. When I saw that statement of yours, I was thinking you were making assumptions on the play or set up and really didnt think of it. As for dyson, he said something that pertains to convenience of a night form and my mind set is aha there is mafia. I guess I was so focused on dyson that I thought of nothing else of other's post because I want to solve him first.
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    Completed You cannot elaborate on it yet you told me it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#459)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#455)
    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#444)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#441)
    Good morning inawordyes and thanks Hollowkatt!! I will proceed with voting haha

    My first impressions are as follows:

    I always voted for inactivity and the next one next to me is irondwarf so I expect them to have more activity.

    Dolby is quite not the Dolby I know in a mafia game. He is usually up to the task with the reads but then again I know he is in a lot of games right now so giving him benefit of the doubt

    I townlean inawordyes because he was able to hold up on his own when pressured by others. Also, for some reason, I can relate to him more because the same pressure that others hold him is the same thought process I have in terms of trusting townie people more and leaving scummy townie to burn themselves as they might have ulterior motives or is just good for POE.

    Laurentus came in the thread all ready for action and I am just suprised that he claimed with one pressure from Dyson. Since no one really counterclaimed him, I am inclined to believe that he might be PR (but then again..I don't know the motivation for this kind of play early on.....as if I would be PR.. I try to conceal me as much as possible because of importance of my role in the game. I really don't want anyone claiming anymore for this reason. So I hope that's the end of that.

    Dysonsphere has refused to answer my question because I want to know the nature of his statements as this is my first time playing with him and he seems new to MU. That would be useful for my POE which he didn't bother to address. I am inclined to vote for him if Irondwarf picks up activity.

    I have to address the others soon as I need to eat. Will be back for part 2
    I have no problems with the content here, but for some reason it’ll tonally reads as stilted and mildly pretentious, and I’m not sure why; I know it comes from like weird word choices in the Iawy and Laurentus reads, but what specifically is pinging me I don’t know beyond that

    Pretentious might be a bad word, but more like it’s coming across like a front is being put up, there’s an air of insincereity that comes from potentially playing up a character? Or that she’s being very cautious with her words so it’s coming across as if she has more she could say but she is withholding information

    Idk, townreads are wack
    Can you explain what are those weird word choices? I don't get it. Those are my impressions of the game. If there are weird word choices, what are those so I can elaborate and made it more clear?
    Unfortunately I can’t elaborate on it more than I already have, as it’s a toneread on your post. I can narrow it down to where the pinging is, but I can’t narrow down the specifics of what the pinging is coming from
    You cannot elaborate on it yet you told me it was weird. I really cannot answer really without you being specific about it.
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    Completed and I am also trying to understand this optimal...

    and I am also trying to understand this optimal path. That means you are now a target for mafia and we might lose a Pr role today and what good would that be?
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    Completed I understand but where I come from and please...

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#453)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#451)
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#443)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyson sphere (#306)
    Obviously if there is even a possibility that everyone has an ability, that means that you too have one, because if you didn't have any abilities at all, you wouldn't have to ask the question.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#309)
    /Outted

    But if you think that, how do you read me?
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#334)
    Okay, so yeah, I've tried to kinda just sweep this under the rug and I appreciate that no townies have commented on this, but in my experience mafia doesn't miss this $%#! when PR hunting. I fully own that I $%#!ed up by PR-slipping to begin with, though.

    I am hard claiming Tracker.

    Now solve around me.

    And before you get annoyed, please understand that I'm making a judgment call here about what my most optimal path forward is, and I really think I'm just the NK, so I might as well hard claim and get it out of the way early.


    For reference, @biancasbotique.
    That is the exact same post that gave me that impression. He just mentioned that you might have abilities too because you wouldn't ask that question and you just claimed just like that. Any reasons why a simple push made you do it?
    ##Vote biancasbotique

    Because it wasn't a push. I literally explain my reasons with the following:

    "Okay, so yeah, I've tried to kinda just sweep this under the rug and I appreciate that no townies have commented on this, but in my experience mafia doesn't miss this $%#! when PR hunting. I fully own that I $%#!ed up by PR-slipping to begin with, though.

    I am hard claiming Tracker.

    Now solve around me.

    And before you get annoyed, please understand that I'm making a judgment call here about what my most optimal path forward is, and I really think I'm just the NK, so I might as well hard claim and get it out of the way early."

    He outted me as a PR already, and that means I am the NK. Ergo, if I'm dying, I might as well claim.
    I understand but where I come from and please forgive me if I am new to MU culture or Civ culture even, we don't claim unless you are getting ready to be yeeted so no matter what everyone says to me and if I am PR, I will not even entertain the idea that I am PR and I had no impression that you were being pushed further by other people about your statement. It was dyson who got the most pressure with his statement.

    Am I wrong in saying that he didnt necessarily out you as you could have just said I am not PR?
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    Completed Can you explain what are those weird word...

    Quote Originally Posted by Inawordyes (#444)
    Quote Originally Posted by biancasbotique (#441)
    Good morning inawordyes and thanks Hollowkatt!! I will proceed with voting haha

    My first impressions are as follows:

    I always voted for inactivity and the next one next to me is irondwarf so I expect them to have more activity.

    Dolby is quite not the Dolby I know in a mafia game. He is usually up to the task with the reads but then again I know he is in a lot of games right now so giving him benefit of the doubt

    I townlean inawordyes because he was able to hold up on his own when pressured by others. Also, for some reason, I can relate to him more because the same pressure that others hold him is the same thought process I have in terms of trusting townie people more and leaving scummy townie to burn themselves as they might have ulterior motives or is just good for POE.

    Laurentus came in the thread all ready for action and I am just suprised that he claimed with one pressure from Dyson. Since no one really counterclaimed him, I am inclined to believe that he might be PR (but then again..I don't know the motivation for this kind of play early on.....as if I would be PR.. I try to conceal me as much as possible because of importance of my role in the game. I really don't want anyone claiming anymore for this reason. So I hope that's the end of that.

    Dysonsphere has refused to answer my question because I want to know the nature of his statements as this is my first time playing with him and he seems new to MU. That would be useful for my POE which he didn't bother to address. I am inclined to vote for him if Irondwarf picks up activity.

    I have to address the others soon as I need to eat. Will be back for part 2
    I have no problems with the content here, but for some reason it’ll tonally reads as stilted and mildly pretentious, and I’m not sure why; I know it comes from like weird word choices in the Iawy and Laurentus reads, but what specifically is pinging me I don’t know beyond that

    Pretentious might be a bad word, but more like it’s coming across like a front is being put up, there’s an air of insincereity that comes from potentially playing up a character? Or that she’s being very cautious with her words so it’s coming across as if she has more she could say but she is withholding information

    Idk, townreads are wack
    Can you explain what are those weird word choices? I don't get it. Those are my impressions of the game. If there are weird word choices, what are those so I can elaborate and made it more clear?
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    Completed That is the exact same post that gave me that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#443)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyson sphere (#306)
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#165)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenTyranno (#163)
    What think ye? Is that a townie or scummy comment? Or NAI?
    Wait, are we playing a role madness game where everyone has an ability? NAI if so. But I am oddly paranoid about it for reasons I can't quite pin down yet.
    Obviously if there is even a possibility that everyone has an ability, that means that you too have one, because if you didn't have any abilities at all, you wouldn't have to ask the question.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#309)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyson sphere (#306)
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#165)
    Wait, are we playing a role madness game where everyone has an ability? NAI if so. But I am oddly paranoid about it for reasons I can't quite pin down yet.
    Obviously if there is even a possibility that everyone has an ability, that means that you too have one, because if you didn't have any abilities at all, you wouldn't have to ask the question.
    /Outted

    But if you think that, how do you read me?
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#334)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyson sphere (#306)
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentus (#165)
    Wait, are we playing a role madness game where everyone has an ability? NAI if so. But I am oddly paranoid about it for reasons I can't quite pin down yet.
    Obviously if there is even a possibility that everyone has an ability, that means that you too have one, because if you didn't have any abilities at all, you wouldn't have to ask the question.
    Okay, so yeah, I've tried to kinda just sweep this under the rug and I appreciate that no townies have commented on this, but in my experience mafia doesn't miss this $%#! when PR hunting. I fully own that I $%#!ed up by PR-slipping to begin with, though.

    I am hard claiming Tracker.

    Now solve around me.

    And before you get annoyed, please understand that I'm making a judgment call here about what my most optimal path forward is, and I really think I'm just the NK, so I might as well hard claim and get it out of the way early.


    For reference, @biancasbotique.
    That is the exact same post that gave me that impression. He just mentioned that you might have abilities too because you wouldn't ask that question and you just claimed just like that. Any reasons why a simple push made you do it?
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