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    Completed DonkiDori

    ##Vote DonkiDori
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    Completed It's literally unoptimal play for a twosome Mafia...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby (#40)
    post 33 is either the worst or best possible follow up, I can't decide, ahhh.

    I don't really read the uncomfortable way pugsgiving ended her post one way or the other.


    Donkidori, why weren't you worried that by explaining how wolves voting wolves was bad, you might accidentally teach the mafia how to play the setup? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?


    I'm not positive that power27 is a wolf, but if it turns out she is a wolf I think the way Enkidu went at her was pretty strong so they would probably not be a wolfteam. Since Enkidu is very hidey maybe that kind of thing will be the only way I get a guess at what they really are. I think they are very afraid of the rockthrowing fights.
    It's literally unoptimal play for a twosome Mafia team to vote one of themselves off unless they're super confident they won't be tracked throughout the rest of the game (highly unlikely). If they want to switch up their strategy and immediately get rid of a member then so be it, makes it easier for a Town win.
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    Completed Okay, well even if you don't see it as true now,...

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAFinitelyNotFrog (#35)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#29)
    Thanks for the response. Also, I always talk about mechanics. Do you think what I said isn't helpful to town?
    I AM NOT A BELIEVER IN PUNISHING DISCUSSION OF MECHANICS, OFTEN REFERRED TO AS INFORMATION INSTEAD OF ANALYSIS. I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE MIND SPACE REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN THOUGHTS, AS THE PERSPECTIVE MAY LIKELY OVERLAP WITH THAT OF A MAFIA.

    "DO YOU THINK WHAT I SAID ISN'T HELPFUL TO TOWN?"

    SIMILARLY, FROM A LINGUISTIC POINT OF VIEW, THE PERSPECTIVE MAY IMPLY THAT YOU YOURSELF ARE NOT TOWN. "TO TOWN" WOULD APPEAR REDUNDANT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW HERE.

    TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS LINE OF THOUGHT IS ONLY BENEFICIAL IN SO FAR AS IT IS TRUE. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL, AND THEREFORE I MUST DISAGREE WITH THIS LINE OF THOUGHT HAVING UTILITY AT THIS STAGE.
    Okay, well even if you don't see it as true now, it's the obvious route for Mafia to take.
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    Completed I've seen quite a few games where Hydriegon is...

    Quote Originally Posted by power27 (#33)
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidu (#23)
    Quote Originally Posted by power27 (#22)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hydreigon25 (#16)
    Trioxhydre, Hydreigon, Trikephalo Samsamdrae, Sāntóulóng, Sazandora, Khaydraygon those are the many different languages of the Pokémon name in my profile picture. i just wanted you to know so it helps identify the best non legendary dragon type Pokémon
    hydreigon coming back a few hours later after his first fluff post just to post this, and then continuing to not do anything in his next post
    hes not even trying to make reads or anything, which doesnt really say anything yet but its still a thing
    this mostly goes for enkidu also
    I can see you have a firm grasp on the art of commentating. Rarely before have I seen such a succinct summary of a player's post with so little personal opinion provided on the motives of said content. A fine example of a post that gives the appearance of participating, whilst actually providing nothing new to the game state.

    Here, have a free vote for your effort.

    ##Vote power27

    when writing that post i must have hit submit before rereading it, forgot to put some of my thoughts down
    now hydreigon is getting to be scummy for his lack of content
    I've seen quite a few games where Hydriegon is town and still acts like this. Unfortunately that makes it hard to determine their alignment. I'd leave them to POE for now.
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    Completed Any thoughts so far?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix13 (#30)
    Hey everyone!
    Any thoughts so far?
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    Completed I don't think much about it since it's an early...

    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidu (#27)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#26)
    What do you think of the power27 wagon right now?
    What do you think about it?
    I don't think much about it since it's an early wagon and you're obviously just putting pressure on her. That question was more to gauge Deaf's response.

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAFinitelyNotFrog (#28)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#26)
    Something to keep in mind for the set up, especially today: I don't think mafia teammates will go after eachother, especially when the Tracker hasn't died. 1 Mafia means they're stuck with the NK and will be a sitting duck if they're tracked.

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAFinitelyNotFrog (#25)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#13)
    Yo.

    Interesting post by power27. Seeing how her interactions with Deaf develop might be of interest. I'm liking Ruby's questioning, but I'd also like to know the reasoning behind the Pug read.

    @Ruby @DEAFinitelyNotFrog How new are you two? Have you played mafia on other sites? Are you an alt?
    DONKIDORI,

    MY EXPERIENCE WITH MAFIA IS BOTH VAST AND CYCLICAL. I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH ANY POLITICAL ALT MOVEMENTS.

    FOR MY MOST RECENT TOWN GAME, PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK. THANK YOU!

    WITH REGARDS TO POWER27, I READ THEIR POST THINKING TO MYSELF "DON'T GET POCKETED, DON'T GET POCKETED, DON'T GET POCKET-.... HECK, I'M POCKETED."
    Oh wow, I was in that game. I don't remember you though

    What do you think of the power27 wagon right now?
    DONKIDORI,

    THE MAFIA, BEING SELF-AWARE, ARE PREOCCUPIED WITH THEIR OWN STRATEGIES; POSTULATING ON MAFIA THOUGHTS SIGNIFIES THAT YOU ARE ALREADY CONSUMED BY THIS VERY HEADSPACE THAT MAFIA ARE CURRENTLY DEALING WITH. YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS WORRISOME TO ME.

    ##Vote DONKIDORI

    AS FOR THE POWER27 WAGON, NEITHER ENKIDU NOR RUBY HAVE DEMONSTRATED WORRISOME BEHAVIOR. WHILE I DO BELIEVE POWER27 IS TOWN, I'D LIKE TO WAIT FOR ALL PLAYERS TO AT LEAST CHECK IN BEFORE CONTINUING DOWN THIS LINE.
    Thanks for the response. Also, I always talk about mechanics. Do you think what I said isn't helpful to town?
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    Completed Something to keep in mind for the set up,...

    Something to keep in mind for the set up, especially today: I don't think mafia teammates will go after eachother, especially when the Tracker hasn't died. 1 Mafia means they're stuck with the NK and will be a sitting duck if they're tracked.

    Quote Originally Posted by DEAFinitelyNotFrog (#25)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#13)
    Yo.

    Interesting post by power27. Seeing how her interactions with Deaf develop might be of interest. I'm liking Ruby's questioning, but I'd also like to know the reasoning behind the Pug read.

    @Ruby @DEAFinitelyNotFrog How new are you two? Have you played mafia on other sites? Are you an alt?
    DONKIDORI,

    MY EXPERIENCE WITH MAFIA IS BOTH VAST AND CYCLICAL. I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH ANY POLITICAL ALT MOVEMENTS.

    FOR MY MOST RECENT TOWN GAME, PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK. THANK YOU!

    WITH REGARDS TO POWER27, I READ THEIR POST THINKING TO MYSELF "DON'T GET POCKETED, DON'T GET POCKETED, DON'T GET POCKET-.... HECK, I'M POCKETED."
    Oh wow, I was in that game. I don't remember you though

    What do you think of the power27 wagon right now?
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    Completed Mkay. I think Pug is an experienced player, so I...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby (#14)
    I think apologizing for sucking is more likely to come from a townie because a townie can play wrong by voting other townies, but everything a wolf does can be considered a good strategy, even voting other wolves on purpose if you're being clever about it. Pugsgiving could be doing a good job remembering that she should be worried about playing badly if she were a townie but the opposite feeling she should have from getting wolf would make it harder. So that's why the read.

    Claiming to be a townie or even claiming to be a wolf for fun should mostly be ignored, I didn't care about that part.

    This is my main account for mafiauniverse and I've never played a mafiauniverse game before. I've played mafia a whole lot at mafiascum.
    Mkay. I think Pug is an experienced player, so I wouldn't put it past her to say that as mafia, but I see where you're coming from.

    @Esooa @Phoenix13 Where you at?
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    Completed Yo. Interesting post by power27. Seeing how...

    Yo.

    Interesting post by power27. Seeing how her interactions with Deaf develop might be of interest. I'm liking Ruby's questioning, but I'd also like to know the reasoning behind the Pug read.

    @Ruby @DEAFinitelyNotFrog How new are you two? Have you played mafia on other sites? Are you an alt?
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    Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by bbt (#32)
    sweet!

    @power27
    @Esooa
    @Ruby
    @Phoenix13
    @Enkidu
    @Pugsgiving Feast
    @DonkiDori
    @Hydreigon25

    as per usual, would appreciate if you could confirm that you're still in! if you don't confirm in time you'll still be randed into the game, this is just to remind you that you signed up for this and also to give me peace of mind if someone doesn't show up until later in the phase!

    (not-Frog doesn't need to confirm ofc because you just signed up)
    Confirmed
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    I'll /in

    I'll /in
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    Completed Care to elaborate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Astil (#263)
    ##Vote BATMAN

    This one is very wolfy to me.

    Glad to see the GDS tradition of useless fluff still lives. I'll reread it again to make sure I didnt miss anything.
    Care to elaborate?
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    Completed 1610 scum slips aren't real. They're a myth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugkin Spooky (#254)
    Quote Originally Posted by Memory of Talon (#246)
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugkin Spooky (#175)
    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN (#170)
    He’s doing wolfy $%#!. Are you defending it as towny?
    Nothing townie about it no. I just felt like Lukess was unfairly picking on Anaxagore because of previous games and not something he actually did this game. 🤔
    Hmm tbh lukess does this a lot. He's sort of the kind of player who openly expresses his actual anxieties into the game thread as both alignments. atm i'd say its NAL, but now I wonder about what anax means about the discord thing.

    Batman mentioning that it's strange makes me realize that I'm not sure how the rest of MU operates with scum chat. GDS typically uses discord, where as where I come from we typically use quicktopic.
    Most of MU uses discord. Also based on the rest of Anaxs posts I'm pretty sure he intentionally said something that made no sense about discord to look like it was a wolf slip.
    1610 scum slips aren't real. They're a myth created by Big Wolf corporations to make townies paranoid of each other.

    Anax could still be a wolf acting TWTBAW, but maybe this isn't the best evidence to discuss that.
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    Completed Catching up I would say you have too much...

    Catching up

    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN (#120)
    Donki is a good villager. Trust, I need to see more, he’s not a nooby.
    ##Vote DonkiDori

    I hereby declare Poison a Villager. She handle herself with class and true villagery spells. Like that’s town folks
    I would say you have too much faith in me, but I did correctly read wolves in the last two games I was in, lol.
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    Completed So, I lied. I'm too tired, so I'm out of here for...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#67)
    Hello, I am here, I am present.

    So it looks like mafia should know the set up unless they have 1-shot Strongman and 1-shot Bulletproof, in which case it could be either Row 4 or Column B.
    So, I lied. I'm too tired, so I'm out of here for a while.
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    Completed Idk, it just helps me wrap my head around the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Poison (#69)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#67)
    Hello, I am here, I am present.

    So it looks like mafia should know the set up unless they have 1-shot Strongman and 1-shot Bulletproof, in which case it could be either Row 4 or Column B.
    Hello, I was here, I am Past.

    This is no Christmas Carol, alright!

    Why do you think talking about the matrix would help us so much? Also, how do you feel about fake PR claims and people discussing it?
    Idk, it just helps me wrap my head around the mechanics of the game. It also let's people see my thought process.

    I don't think claims like Pugkin's are super useful because mafia presumably knows town's PR's and knows if the claim is fake (unless it's a lucky guess). But this all like, Hour 1 stuff, so it's probably not meant to be scrutinized.
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    Completed Hello, I am here, I am present. So it looks...

    Hello, I am here, I am present.

    So it looks like mafia should know the set up unless they have 1-shot Strongman and 1-shot Bulletproof, in which case it could be either Row 4 or Column B.
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    I'll /in

    I'll /in
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    Thread: Jailtracker v Rolecop 2

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    Completed Why do you trust me so much? Do you just remember...

    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN (#877)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#874)
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitewater Hysteria (#871)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#867)
    If I'm V/V with Baker and BATM is a wolf, who in this world is BATM's partner?
    another player in this game, i'd imagine
    I don't think BATM/Appel is possible as with BATM's wolf play in mind that he'd just vote me as I was easily ML-able instead of piling further on Apple.

    Baker/BATM would not make sense here.

    Baker/Mischief is a possibility.

    Baker/Dori relies solely on the possibility of Dori being a wolf, which I really doubt.
    Anyone who knows how to read or play WW knows I’m not a wolf here. I pushed CW and Appel. Donki convinced me to go Apple. That was my only reason as I didn’t care which one went down as long as it wasn’t you Alice. This is clearly documented.
    Only person ya can tinfoil is me and Alice or me and donki if you think me and donki stick our necks out for our partner.

    What doesn’t make sense is why if me and donki were saving him he will flip out and claim scum when he wasn’t too wagon? He did it when Apple was ahead by 1
    Why do you trust me so much? Do you just remember my tone from the last game we played?
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    Thread: Jailtracker v Rolecop 2

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    Completed Unless mafia got really lucky, I'm assuming cw...

    Unless mafia got really lucky, I'm assuming cw checked Pugkin N1. If mafia was confident in eliminating a town PR, they might be inclined to bus a goon to get town cred. If I'm correct, then we shouldn't feel comfortable with Appel just yet.
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    Completed I'll clarify that #642 is entirely true if not...

    I'll clarify that #642 is entirely true if not slightly exaggerated. Throughout the game I gave cw the benefit of the doubt. I put him in tinfoil hat town, I didn't SR him despite trying to QH, and I was prolonging voting for him as long as I could. I was faltering in my defense near the end of Day 2, as you can probably see in my ISO, which is why I implied that I was in denial.

    Cw has betrayed me yet again
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    Completed [QUOTE=DonkiDori;4414003] X_X

    [QUOTE=DonkiDori;4414003]
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#639)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#633)
    @bakermir what are your scumread at present? And your stances on the current wagons?

    This was about all I could find for why you were on appel
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#518)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#490)
    @bakermir

    I feel like someone who knows how TH plays and has reason to fear her town game would NK her Day 1.

    im okay with this

    ##Vote Appelsiini

    I think Donki and Alice are a team. If Donki is town, Alice did make them look bad. If Alice is town(i doubt) then someone explain to me how. CW and Donki are covering for each other too so idk what to tell you mate

    I don't really have a clear TR, maybe mikey and pugkin and slightly WWH if the above are scum.

    Do you think I am a madman to SR a globally townlocked slot?
    I am hardcore covering for cw, lol. The thing is he thanked my post when I /in'd for this game and sent me a PM recognizing me from our last game. I was excited to be town buddies this time and find scum together.

    Call it denial, call it throwing, but I would rather DIE than live in a world where cw is wolfing me again
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#777)
    Jailtracker v Rolecop 2 Day 2 Votecount

    Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase)
    4 cw357 Pugkin Spooky (19), Ciderhead (49), [NSM] Mikey (28), Whitewater Hysteria (70)
    3 Appelsiini DonkiDori (35), BATMAN (7), cw357 (38)
    2 Alice Liddell Mischief (18), bakermir (43)
    2 Not voting Appelsiini (2), Alice Liddell (77)


    View Vote History

    End day at majority is enabled. With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to reach majority.

    cw357 was eliminated. They were: Mafia Role Cop.
    Role PM for Jailtracker v Rolecop 2

    You are Mafia Role Cop. You win when you overpower the Town and are the only evil faction remaining.

    As Mafia, you have access to the Factional Night Kill Night Action. Players targeted with this action will die at the end of the Night unless protected. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.

    If no Mafia submit an action, a player will be picked at random from the living non-Mafia players.



    Mafia Role Cop

    As Mafia Role Cop, you have access to the Role Inspection Night Action. Role Inspection will reveal a target's role and any role modifiers. Vanillas and Goons will inspect as Vanilla. Submit your Night Action each night using the form below the game thread. You may change your target as many times as you want. The last action submitted will be used.


    Day 2 has ended.

    Day 2 ended at 9:00 PM EDT on Thursday, October 29th, 2020.
    X_X
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    Completed [QUOTE=bakermir;4413987] I am hardcore...

    [QUOTE=bakermir;4413987]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#633)
    @bakermir what are your scumread at present? And your stances on the current wagons?

    This was about all I could find for why you were on appel
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#518)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#490)
    @bakermir

    I feel like someone who knows how TH plays and has reason to fear her town game would NK her Day 1.

    im okay with this

    ##Vote Appelsiini

    I think Donki and Alice are a team. If Donki is town, Alice did make them look bad. If Alice is town(i doubt) then someone explain to me how. CW and Donki are covering for each other too so idk what to tell you mate

    I don't really have a clear TR, maybe mikey and pugkin and slightly WWH if the above are scum.

    Do you think I am a madman to SR a globally townlocked slot?
    I am hardcore covering for cw, lol. The thing is he thanked my post when I /in'd for this game and sent me a PM recognizing me from our last game. I was excited to be town buddies this time and find scum together.

    Call it denial, call it throwing, but I would rather DIE than live in a world where cw is wolfing me again
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    Completed Make it quick please! You only got 2 hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN (#632)
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafia Host (#481)
    Player Substitution in Jailtracker v Rolecop 2

    BATMAN has subbed in for Phoenix13.

    Do not discuss substitutions.
    BATMAN HYPE. I got a clear on Phoenix so BATMAN the hero is lock clear. Sorry wolves, sucks you have to kill me and im gonna own one of you today
    Make it quick please! You only got 2 hours.
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    Completed Like, they wouldn't make any risky plays I guess....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#624)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#617)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#611)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#608)
    @DonkiDori what do you make of CW? You say you've seem them wolf before, yes?
    Yes, and I think if they were actually a wolf, they wouldn't have so many people SRing them. I imagine they'd play more carefully and their entrance didn't look like they were coming in with a strategy.
    I guess the only problem with this is that they were never meaningfully pushed in that game, so I don't how they act under pressure.
    When you say they'd play more carefully, what do you mean by that? Cos I'd say their play has felt pretty careful here, or tentative is perhaps a better word.
    Like, they wouldn't make any risky plays I guess. The game I played probably isn't a good gauge to read them in this context. They've had pressure on them since Day 1 and they aren't playing with other newbies.
  26. Day 2#617

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    Completed I guess the only problem with this is that they...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#611)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#608)
    @DonkiDori what do you make of CW? You say you've seem them wolf before, yes?
    Yes, and I think if they were actually a wolf, they wouldn't have so many people SRing them. I imagine they'd play more carefully and their entrance didn't look like they were coming in with a strategy.
    I guess the only problem with this is that they were never meaningfully pushed in that game, so I don't how they act under pressure.
  27. Day 2#611

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    Completed Yes, and I think if they were actually a wolf,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciderhead (#608)
    @DonkiDori what do you make of CW? You say you've seem them wolf before, yes?
    Yes, and I think if they were actually a wolf, they wouldn't have so many people SRing them. I imagine they'd play more carefully and their entrance didn't look like they were coming in with a strategy.
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    Completed Idk, probably the same things if she flips at...

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#597)
    What would you do tomorrow if the hammer happened?
    Idk, probably the same things if she flips at EoD. I'm not opposed to Appel flipping, but I don't like the attempt at cutting 5 hours off the Day. I don't SR cw because of it, but it's like, why?
  29. Day 2#596

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    Completed Okay, I can see how you view it that way. I don't...

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#593)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#591)
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#590)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#589)
    What do you mean it doesn't describe my thoughts? I've already made a post to describe my readlist and she was at the bottom. Tell me what specifically you are confused about.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#565)
    ##Vote Appelsiini

    Though I'm not enthusiastic about the other two on the wagon. I'm still willing to go this direction despite the attempted hammer.
    Explain this
    I'm not enthusiastic about you and cw because you were the last two votes on that wagon. It looked like cw would've hammered if WWH didn't unvote. This doesn't mean I'm going to knee-jerk reaction vote off the person who did it.

    Again, this hammer doesn't change my opinion on Appel, especially since she hasn't come back to say anything in her defense.
    this makes no sense. why does my vote bother you?

    if you already made up your mind on a slot, why would you diss me for sheeping your vote.. are you scared of gettin scumread?
    Okay, I can see how you view it that way. I don't intend to diss your vote on Appel. The close proximity with an attempted hammer got me paranoid, but you didn't actually initiate it and it was 30 minutes after you voted.

    I'll be more clear. I read you as null right now and I didn't like cw's vote. I haven't changed my opinion on Appel, though, so I'm still voting her.
  30. Day 2#591

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    Completed I'm not enthusiastic about you and cw because you...

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#590)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#589)
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#587)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#586)
    I don't know what other way to describe it. Just because Appel was almost hammered doesn't change my thoughts on her.
    That describes your actions, not your thoughts.
    What do you mean it doesn't describe my thoughts? I've already made a post to describe my readlist and she was at the bottom. Tell me what specifically you are confused about.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#565)
    ##Vote Appelsiini

    Though I'm not enthusiastic about the other two on the wagon. I'm still willing to go this direction despite the attempted hammer.
    Explain this
    I'm not enthusiastic about you and cw because you were the last two votes on that wagon. It looked like cw would've hammered if WWH didn't unvote. This doesn't mean I'm going to knee-jerk reaction vote off the person who did it.

    Again, this hammer doesn't change my opinion on Appel, especially since she hasn't come back to say anything in her defense.
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    Completed What do you mean it doesn't describe my thoughts?...

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#587)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#586)
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#582)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#581)
    I'm fine with the Appel wagon. I'm not fine with ending the day 5 hours early.
    this is a politicians answer.
    I don't know what other way to describe it. Just because Appel was almost hammered doesn't change my thoughts on her.
    That describes your actions, not your thoughts.
    What do you mean it doesn't describe my thoughts? I've already made a post to describe my readlist and she was at the bottom. Tell me what specifically you are confused about.
  32. Day 2#586

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    Completed I don't know what other way to describe it. Just...

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#582)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#581)
    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#577)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#565)
    ##Vote Appelsiini

    Though I'm not enthusiastic about the other two on the wagon. I'm still willing to go this direction despite the attempted hammer.
    your actions don't align with your thoughts. make up your mind dokidoki
    I'm fine with the Appel wagon. I'm not fine with ending the day 5 hours early.
    this is a politicians answer.
    I don't know what other way to describe it. Just because Appel was almost hammered doesn't change my thoughts on her.
  33. Day 2#581

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    Completed I'm fine with the Appel wagon. I'm not fine with...

    Quote Originally Posted by bakermir (#577)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#565)
    ##Vote Appelsiini

    Though I'm not enthusiastic about the other two on the wagon. I'm still willing to go this direction despite the attempted hammer.
    your actions don't align with your thoughts. make up your mind dokidoki
    I'm fine with the Appel wagon. I'm not fine with ending the day 5 hours early.
  34. Day 2#571

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    Completed Here's a conspiracy theory: BATMAN isn't posting...

    Here's a conspiracy theory: BATMAN isn't posting so he isn't immediately NK'd, lol.
  35. Day 2#565

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    Completed Appelsiini Though I'm not enthusiastic about...

    ##Vote Appelsiini

    Though I'm not enthusiastic about the other two on the wagon. I'm still willing to go this direction despite the attempted hammer.
  36. Day 2#530

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    Completed Also, somethings feels wrong. I voted LMT and...

    Also, somethings feels wrong. I voted LMT and then he got a CFD. I list Appel at the bottom of my reads and then her wagon almost gets hammered. I've never had this much influence over votes before.
  37. Day 2#528

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    Completed Why was Appel that close to maj?

    Why was Appel that close to maj?
  38. Day 2#527

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    Completed Appelsiini

    ##Unvote Appelsiini
  39. Day 2#499

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    Completed Mkay Appelsiini

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitewater Hysteria (#492)
    can you please vote it really hurts us to only have 4 players voting. wolves can just pile on a villager at eod
    Mkay
    ##Vote Appelsiini
  40. Day 2#491

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    Completed Town can also be replaced with won't vote for...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#488)
    Alice- I didn’t see anything wrong with Alice’s Day 1 SR on Mikey, despite not SRing Mikey myself. It’s understandable from a town perspective to react this way towards Mikey’s excuse to be townread and his vote towards Appelsiini, especially with what little info we got on Day 1. Alice’s SR on Mischief is less compelling given that they just started the game and their reads won’t be fully realized just yet. I can understand why Alice rubs people the wrong way, she could be a wolf or just aggressive on her SR’s. I’d want to see if she gets NK’d before I vote for her.

    Mikey- Ngl, the odds of randing scum 4 times in a row does have me a bit paranoid. That’s why I didn’t want people voting him just for saying that. The only thing I didn’t like about him was the way he reacted to Appelsiini not believing him, but maybe he had other reasons to vote her as well. I’m liking his questioning today.

    Pugkin Spooky- I haven’t been paying too much attention to their posts. I know they voted WWH and people have been saying she acts like her usual town self.

    WWH- Also someone that people say acts like their town self. Their concerns with cw are pretty towny. Their reads check out to me as well.

    Cw- The way they are approaching the game seems like clueless villager. If they had all the answers already, I feel like they would be acting more confident. It could also be that they’re busy with school, but I’ve seen busy wolves be confident in their plays as well.

    Cider- Their first read post was pretty towny, but I guess they made it before they subbed in? That’s NAI I guess.

    Appelsiini- Their LMT interaction was NAI, not as scummy as I thought, though it implied she was defending bakermir and Pugkin Spooky agreed with this sentiment (that LMT’s SR on bakermir wasn’t strong). That’s why I’ve asked for her opinions on those two. I feel like if she was truly trying to solve Alice then she’d be more critical of her, but a lot of people have said they TR Alice.

    Mischief- I was initially concerned that they were coming straight out with their scumreads. It just makes more sense to me for someone to start with townreads, which is why I asked if immediately going after their SR’s was part of their game plan. I saw it more as an accusation (admittedly, the tone was affected by Alice’s questions) than “look out for these two”, but I’m glad they clarified.
    Addition: The way they are ISOing, asking questions, and reading looks towny.

    Bakermir- Day 1 they just had posts about mechanics, strategy, and defending their Mikey vote. I think these are posts that scum usually hide behind, so slight SR. I’m liking the effort they’re putting in today. So far they are comfortable with Alice, Pugkin, and maybe Mischief and are coming around on Mikey. This makes me scumread them less, but I don’t think it really pings me as town.

    Phoenix- True null. The only thing that adds to my read is the fact that Alice didn’t want people to vote them Day 1. BATMAN is here. We’re doomed if Phoenix randed wolf


    Town: Alice, WWH, Mikey, Mischief

    Tinfoil Hat Town: cw

    Need more info/Need to pay more attention: Cider, Pugkin

    Null: bakermir, BATMAN

    Closest to a SR I have, but still pretty null: Appelsiini
    Town can also be replaced with won't vote for them.
  41. Day 2#490

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    Completed bakermir I feel like someone who knows how TH...

    @bakermir

    I feel like someone who knows how TH plays and has reason to fear her town game would NK her Day 1.

    My reads on Alice and Mikey can explain why I wanted to find an alternate wagon. I didn't think Alice or Mikey would be a productive Day 1 yeet.
  42. Day 2#489

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    Completed This is the nicest thing anyone's said to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitewater Hysteria (#471)
    i think there are a number of quite villagey people even for such a low post game, but you don't really see each other clearly. hopefully we can band together and lynch someone who was afk yesterday

    i think i'm vetoing a lynch on mikey and alice despite the fact that i remain suspicous just because it would be too damaging to mislynch them

    Whitewater Hysteria - kids' crossword with solutions for the same day upside down right next to it
    DonkiDori - this guy is the real deal prob will die next
    bakermir - actually trying so a villager. so what if his thoughts don't make perfect sense or meet your expectations, neither do yours. he's a free thinker, wouldn't expect you to understand
    Mischief - v for swearing

    [NSM] Mikey - good
    Ciderhead - he is trying too but i just learned this player existed so i can't really justify putting him any higher. also he read the game before he subbed in so sadly i can't give him that much credit for the opening post
    Alice Liddell - whatever

    Pugkin Spooky - hasn't really done anything villagey, which i feel says a fair amount because there's so many people i feel i can trust
    Phoenix13 - coin flip 2

    Appelsiini - 277 voting mikey is snark that sounds like she expects it to be perceived as explanation of the vote but it doesn't actually merit a vote at all, probably wouldn't believe as village. anime avi
    cw357 - die die die. it's obvious
    This is the nicest thing anyone's said to me.
  43. Day 2#488

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    Completed Alice- I didn’t see anything wrong with Alice’s...

    Alice- I didn’t see anything wrong with Alice’s Day 1 SR on Mikey, despite not SRing Mikey myself. It’s understandable from a town perspective to react this way towards Mikey’s excuse to be townread and his vote towards Appelsiini, especially with what little info we got on Day 1. Alice’s SR on Mischief is less compelling given that they just started the game and their reads won’t be fully realized just yet. I can understand why Alice rubs people the wrong way, she could be a wolf or just aggressive on her SR’s. I’d want to see if she gets NK’d before I vote for her.

    Mikey- Ngl, the odds of randing scum 4 times in a row does have me a bit paranoid. That’s why I didn’t want people voting him just for saying that. The only thing I didn’t like about him was the way he reacted to Appelsiini not believing him, but maybe he had other reasons to vote her as well. I’m liking his questioning today.

    Pugkin Spooky- I haven’t been paying too much attention to their posts. I know they voted WWH and people have been saying she acts like her usual town self.

    WWH- Also someone that people say acts like their town self. Their concerns with cw are pretty towny. Their reads check out to me as well.

    Cw- The way they are approaching the game seems like clueless villager. If they had all the answers already, I feel like they would be acting more confident. It could also be that they’re busy with school, but I’ve seen busy wolves be confident in their plays as well.

    Cider- Their first read post was pretty towny, but I guess they made it before they subbed in? That’s NAI I guess.

    Appelsiini- Their LMT interaction was NAI, not as scummy as I thought, though it implied she was defending bakermir and Pugkin Spooky agreed with this sentiment (that LMT’s SR on bakermir wasn’t strong). That’s why I’ve asked for her opinions on those two. I feel like if she was truly trying to solve Alice then she’d be more critical of her, but a lot of people have said they TR Alice.

    Mischief- I was initially concerned that they were coming straight out with their scumreads. It just makes more sense to me for someone to start with townreads, which is why I asked if immediately going after their SR’s was part of their game plan. I saw it more as an accusation (admittedly, the tone was affected by Alice’s questions) than “look out for these two”, but I’m glad they clarified.
    Addition: The way they are ISOing, asking questions, and reading looks towny.

    Bakermir- Day 1 they just had posts about mechanics, strategy, and defending their Mikey vote. I think these are posts that scum usually hide behind, so slight SR. I’m liking the effort they’re putting in today. So far they are comfortable with Alice, Pugkin, and maybe Mischief and are coming around on Mikey. This makes me scumread them less, but I don’t think it really pings me as town.

    Phoenix- True null. The only thing that adds to my read is the fact that Alice didn’t want people to vote them Day 1. BATMAN is here. We’re doomed if Phoenix randed wolf


    Town: Alice, WWH, Mikey, Mischief

    Tinfoil Hat Town: cw

    Need more info/Need to pay more attention: Cider, Pugkin

    Null: bakermir, BATMAN

    Closest to a SR I have, but still pretty null: Appelsiini
  44. Day 2#487

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    Completed I'm back and I've typed up an explanation of my...

    I'm back and I've typed up an explanation of my reads. I'll go through what I missed and cross out anything I change my mind on, then I'll post it.
  45. Day 2#452

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    Completed I'll post this tomorrow when I have a clearer...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#434)
    I'm having trouble articulating a full reads post, so I think I'll post a list and explain my thoughts in a separate post.

    Town: Alice, Mikey

    Townleaning: WWH, cw, Pugkin Spooky, Ciderhead

    Slight townlean: Appelsiini

    Null: Phoenix

    Low Null: bakermir, Mischief
    I'll post this tomorrow when I have a clearer thought process. I'm peacing out for now.
  46. Day 2#443

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    Completed Mischief Could you tone it down with the insults?...

    @Mischief Could you tone it down with the insults? I understand that you're not in the best mood, but it's hard to engage with an antagonistic post. We're all trying the best we can with what little information we have and we can have disagreements without insulting someone's intelligence.
  47. Day 2#434

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    Completed I'm having trouble articulating a full reads...

    I'm having trouble articulating a full reads post, so I think I'll post a list and explain my thoughts in a separate post.

    Town: Alice, Mikey

    Townleaning: WWH, cw, Pugkin Spooky, Ciderhead

    Slight townlean: Appelsiini

    Null: Phoenix

    Low Null: bakermir, Mischief
  48. Day 2#431

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    Completed Mkay, I think I understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#430)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#428)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#427)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#426)
    I find it strange how Mischief felt confident in pushing you and Appel as wolves just through skimming the thread. Do they usually call out wolves like this? I've never played with them.
    My issue isn't Mischief's push, it's that he isn't evaluating our slots by itself. Like he only said that I could be V/W or W/W with Appel without reading much into my posts. It just doesn't feel like it's genuine solving.
    So you're saying he's reading too much into the Appel/Alice pairing instead of judging both of you independently?
    Pretty much. Saying that Appel is either protecting a wolfbud or TMI'ing me V isn't really saying anything as he's literally just stating that I'm either a W or a V.

    His read on Appel is better as he clearly SRs her, but for him to take notice of my readlist and then pussyfoot what he thinks our association here is... doesn't really feel right.
    Mkay, I think I understand.
  49. Day 2#429

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    Completed I think bakermir also said they had played with...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#395)
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleHaven (#81)
    2. I've played with hydre, alice, whitewater, mikey and phoenix before. LMT and Pugkin were both part of a game I hosted so I know a little about them. thats about it though
    My gut tells me that someone in this group would NK TripleHaven.
    I think bakermir also said they had played with TH before.
  50. Day 2#428

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    Completed So you're saying he's reading too much into the...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alice Liddell (#427)
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkiDori (#426)
    I find it strange how Mischief felt confident in pushing you and Appel as wolves just through skimming the thread. Do they usually call out wolves like this? I've never played with them.
    My issue isn't Mischief's push, it's that he isn't evaluating our slots by itself. Like he only said that I could be V/W or W/W with Appel without reading much into my posts. It just doesn't feel like it's genuine solving.
    So you're saying he's reading too much into the Appel/Alice pairing instead of judging both of you independently?
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